Why is Physical Media Dying?
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- It's no secret that physical media -- CDs, game discs, etc -- are fast being replaced by digital distribution, but the traditional arguments may not be the only reasons why.
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Digital = You don't own it, you just have access to it.
Physical = you own it and access it anytime for a long period of time.
Legally, you don't own physical media either, you own an end user license that's exchangeable.
Always hate this stupid fucking argument. "Legally," who gives a flying fat fuck? If a license agreement for a game expires, is revoked, terminated, etc., the game can be pulled out of all digital "libraries" at the flick of a switch instantaneously. I'd like to see them go around trying to reclaim all of the physical copies of that same game out there in the wild sitting around on peoples' shelves. XD Therefore, the physical version beats the digital version every single time in terms of sheer ownership. Sit down, Gaston - you ass clown.
Golum McSmeagolHomie
How is a company going to delete it from my hard drive (especially if I backed it up) if the game has no DRM? Sit down, Golum - you ass clown.
+GastonAsston it is possible. it could be something as stupid as a ps4 update that causes your system to become unstable and which will make you format your hard drive and start fresh. i know all too well that this is possible because it happend to me and games like pt and marvel vs capcom wont ever be downloadable again.
spawnkiller97
That's why everybody should be able to backup their data. (of which you can do with digital games on PC)
I prefer physical media because I like collecting them for my shelves and that it feels like you've actually bought something rather than you download online.
me too
That's why from now on whenever I buy a game on Steam or any other digital service I will make a back up of it on an optical disc
I'd still prefer Physical copies over Digital copies, since I was used to it since I was a kid. And I know technology is changing fast and Digital is the way to go these days, but there's always something special in having a tangible copy of a game.
I refuse to support an all-digital marketplace. If regular media goes away, I'll just stop collecting new stuff and just buy what's already out there. Vudu has already shown that your movie collection there isn't safe- they had porn before Wal-Mart bought them out, but all of it was removed when that happened. Those who bought porn on Vudu had the movies taken out of their libraries and refunded. Would you want someone to do that to your media collection if they decided they didn't like some of the content in it?
@jackthegamer ikr
Physical = better than Digital
digtial died at day one many ran out and sold all there cds and dvds thinking that it was the thing to do , you will never own them , they are like renting out books , i fell sorry for them ...........where i go i see big shipments of dvds coming in by the boat loads ...........here is the break down of a dvd trade ......get ready lets break it down and do the math ..........you buy a dvd lets say 14.99 to 25 ea , and box sets higher and thats lot of money over time
now lets go trade them in ...........are you ready for the break down lets get started , you walk in and you have box after box and they take them in trade .......75 cents ea and 50 cents ea ...........your not going to get 3 dollars ea never thats not how it works , sometimes they only give you 25 cents a dvd and thats if they have to many .....i have seen then give as low as 10 cents a dvd and box sets they pay 200 dollars only no matter how many dvds are in the box ........and they resell the dvds at a higher price ......200 ea or 300 ea and box sets at 8 to 14 dollars a box set ......so who is the winner and loser of the trades and they keep the best ones for them selfs
Physical = Digital stored at your home and not at a company.
discs are physical and digital
fuckin thank you!
What sucks is you *CAN NOT* sell digital copies! At least you can make some money reselling physical media...
True. You can sell your account with all your games but not sell only one game.
Physical media will still remain part of the "media industry" and will continue to be in production as long as there is demand.
My concern is compatibility and the "vanishing" of original hardware, i bet you never thought those VHS tapes would vanish out of production (obsolete) when you were watching Starwars as a kid.. then you find yourself buying the DVD version... oh wait its out on blueray.....hang on i can download this to save space.
Imagine the disappointment on a child's face when you tell them on christmas day that the pice of paper withe the 16 digit number left under the tree is a digital download..
in conclusion we should not worry about the loss of physical media as its never going to happen, only fear of the in-app purchases and adverts.
A Leadbeater CD may be my preferred format for music, but the revival of vinyl records is a sign that physical copies of music will live on!
But you can still find an old VHS player to hook up if you want to watch those old tapes. Same with laser discs, betas, etc.
You know I have to go with your thoughts on this video, Physical media should be preserved.
This is one reason I almost exclusively play retro games. I think it's unfair that you pay full price for a game and you don't get the full product.
Except you do?
@@FletcherCat yea u right
I prefer having a physical copy of a game to a digital one. You can resell it, share it with friends, and play it on multiple consoles, and you never have to worry about the company "ending support" and stealing it off your system. I paid for the game and I want to be able to do as I please with it, whether that be playing it for the next 20 years, returning it to the store if it doesn't work out, or getting some money back by auctioning it off on EBay.
Yep, ending support *cough* Final Fantasy XI.
Hatty2004 on XBLA are you really comparing that one game to hundreds of games out there?!
One word, steam.
Steam, back up game, crack it, and they cant come delete a game off your HDD lmao
I first felt the pain of this when I bought Crash Team Racing on the PS store (for my PS3) in 2012. I hadn’t used my PS3 for years until 2017, so when I had the urge to power it up and play CTR again I saw that I no longer had the game. It was in my purchases but it required me to BUY IT AGAIN because of some license thing. It still enrages me to this day. I learned my lesson.
With companies closing and licensing rights getting tossed around I have some real concerns about being able to play old games/movies/music in the future, to the point that I've been buying up a lot of Original XBox/PS2 games that I missed and now have even started getting PS3 games as they hit the sweet spot between 'unwanted trash' and 'vintage.'
I don't think there will ever be a all digital distribution of media at least not for many a years. The whole problem with it is 1. There are still many people who like physical media. Me myself i like to be able to hold and know that something is mine. Even though it may be more convenient to buy online and download it doesn't feel the same. Number 2. Servers aren't 100 percent reliable. Many people will buy this music streaming service or game streaming service and like what happened to xbox and PlayStation on Christmas the servers will fail. Millions of people who have bought digitally will cry out but me and the people who bought physical copies will be there laughing as we will still be able to pop our games into our system and our CD's in the stereo.
***** It is going to become a lot more common, But I agree that physical copies of things will stay
TheChromaKid Forgot to put in a reason :O But physical copies require retailers, Retailers require people to work, This gives people jobs. Remove physical, Make less jobs, More unemployed people. One huge reason.
Physical media is not dying. It has gone underground for awhile now & will make a comeback.
Nope, not at all.
I agree with you, Lex Beltran. Well said.
And here we are 5 years later and they don't even want you to buy music digitally anymore. They want you to stream it for a monthly fee that never goes away.
Great way big corporations brainwash people into becoming tied in to a never ending monthly payment.
Blu Ray disc is not dead. I am currently using it as my data and video backup system. A 25 Gb Blu Ray blank disc costs less than 50 cents, I am able to burn the data permanently into these discs. If it is a video file, I can watch it on my Blu-Ray player that supports mp4, divx, mpg2, etc. Forget cloud computing storage system (it's a scam as I can't trust the hosting company enough to keep my data safe). The important data and videos are always with me. I can backup 4Tb of data for less than $100. I also use hard drives but I am not sure how reliable they are over time as they use mechanical parts. SSD drives are great but they are currently very expensive and their liability is still not proven. I will making a video on this topic soon. Sipski
SSD's/M.2 etc. are more unreliable than physical drives. I still have HDD's that are more than 17 years old that I can stick in a desktop and boot. HDD's can read and write from sectors of the platters. SSD's read and write to the entire module. Each time running current and degrading the physical stability of the hardware and increasing the voltage to compensate for degradation. Physical drives you can repare and recover. solid drives are dead when they die. Physical wins every time in the end. Good on ya for using BL, just make sure they don't get scratched.
EVERYBODY better stock up on DVD/blu ray players. because once DVD and blu rays goes away.. they will stop making machines. to have FULL control on your pass time. and 4K is dead in the water. people are now wise to RE-buying . they are NOT going for it this time.
4K is only good for new movies made in 4k. you can't get more clearer out of a film made [printed on film]
I’m stocking up on blu rays and dvds
sorry, but you are wrong ....old movies, shot on 35mm film have a resolution greater than 4k
I always buy disks if possible. Why?
1) It is the best back-up copy you can invest in. It will outlive any hard drive. Even if the data gets destroyed eventually, by that time I will many have copies already made.
2) With music, the files are lossless. And that is a huge deal.
3) With games, I will have the original copy, that will play exactly as the developers intended. HD remasters frequently change things, remove content, and introduce new bugs.
4) I own the content, and no one can delete it from a server. I will own that copy until it dies, and that might take decades.
5) I can HOLD IT with my hands. IRL. For real.
6) I have the instruction manual, the brochure, the cover art.
7) I can make UNLIMITED digital backups of my disks, while you are limited on the number of times you can download something you buy from a server.
I agree. If my PS3 or Wii U were to suddenly break, I could lose whatever games I downloaded to them, but with physical media, that doesn't happen. Plus, should I ever want to resell the game, it's a lot easier to resell a disk than the downloadable form of the game.
I never had an optical disk "break" on me, ever. Some of the disks I own were pressed in the 80s, and they are STILL FINE.
yeah seriously, if you break a disc you have to be more careful. treat it like a record.
NotOrdinaryInGames you should look up the definition of a disk a disk means a hard drive or floppy disk a disc refers to optical media
1. You can just copy it on another HDD
2. HQ versions exist
3. You can still get the original Doom files off the internet... and Morrowind.. and many other old games..
4. You own the files, if it's stored you don't need it to be on a server
5. You can do that with an HDD
6. If you don't want to go print it yourself, sure, I guess
7. No, there isn't a limit for most files.. and just copy it locally.. unlimited times.
i got gta 5 for free with 16 viruses... Totally worth it
ha I got it free with 14 virusis
No joke i think epic games actually broke my pc
I'm old enough to have lived through the 8-16 Bit consoles era as a child. I treasure the audio cassettes / vinyl from those days. I was still actively making tape recordings well into the mp3 era as I invested in a proper tape deck that just begs to be used. Anyway, I know I'm not the kind of consumer that modernising industries aim to sway. I refuse to use a streaming service to listen to music. Apple, Spotify etc have huge holes where some of my music tastes go so they're not for me. I probably wouldn't use them if they were free. The rental model for both Gaming and Music is a concept I find nauseating and in direct conflict with how passionately I feel about these things, and I feel no shame in lugging boxes and boxes of 'obsolete' media around with me through life. I will never be at the mercy of a mobile / internet connection when I want to enjoy something. I will never have a game server switched off on me. I will never have to install a game onto a harddrive and jump through hoops that foster contempt for the consumer. Every year I wonder whether I'll buy a newer, post PS2 / GC home console - and I came close to a WiiU - but no, I'm happy to hunt out the myriad gems for older machines as they're so plentiful and as far as I'm concerned, generally, modern gaming experiences can't touch what was produced in the Golden Age (late '80s to early '00s), the late gen 8-bit stuff through to the PC-Engine / Mega Drive / SNES era. I bought an N3DS for the M2-produced Sega 3D Arcade / Mega Drive remasters and ended up - via homebrew - with arguably the most perfect golden age emulation machine yet (thanks to Retroarch running 15+ game libraries at 100% speed with great accuracy on a screen with almost perfect (240p) resolution for these games - and feel no awkwardness about downloading ROMs for games I own from back in the day. Anyway I think my point is that I'm as passionate as ever about my Music / Gaming hobbies but utterly non-plussed about where its all ended up. I'll still download the odd 3DS game but doubt I'll ever be current gen again after the 3DS winds down for the NX. The industries can keep their contemptible innovations.
This makes me really sad, I've been into retro games such as the original Pokemon. Although I have Pokemon yellow and red on VC I like playing the cartridge, it makes me feel like what I have on the game is more mine and definitely it's a more personal feel (especially with rare or event Pokemon) that's also why I don't want to only have my special Pokemon on my 3ds, I want to be able to take the cart out and pop it in another 3ds and see the same Pokemon. I also have been seeing this with the Pokemon Bank released along side generation 6. They are saying put them on your device and they'll be safe but the real comfort is knowing you can take them out at any time and almost physically have them.
These were just some thoughts I had while watching the vid! :)
Physical media is dying? Really? I buy cds every week.
its not dying at all they are going up in price , i know of a few dvds that are worth starting at $ 150 up to 800 and some are at 1400 , they dont want you to own anything in the past , nothing at all and soon computers will have no hard drives and they will be set buying price of 80 ....yes only 80 for a computer ........and they will rent computers for only 39.99 for one year , get this online storage yep all your files online only , no hard drive break downs ......but here is the other bad news for online store age will be 500 dollars for a half of a year and 8 grand for a 2 years
and if you dont pay they will block your acount till you pay to open up your acount again , steaming music is just here for a limited time it will be taken away with out your control , everything you buy will fade away the acounts will be gone even if you pay for it
How old r u?
@@rigomortisfxstudios no its dying. there's a reason why there's an all digital PS5, Xbox one X, and probably series X. With all of these streaming platforms people aren't felling the need to go out and buy the blu ray and DVD which are making them decline in sales. yes some DVDs and Blu Rays are going up in price because the people who actually want them will pay top dollar for the physical version.
Why not get a Spotify account ?
@@suleymangungor9075 because you don t own it and it has promos
I'm not sure how feasible this is for consoles but at least for a number of the better/more loved PC games that required server connections to play moved to private or emulated servers. look at vanilla WoW or other old MMOs
I love physical media.
I think all companies and businesses offering a digital streaming service or rentals of content should allow customers to buy all content and download it, as in having their own digital copy. Some of them already do that and have been doing that for years, but there will always be people wanting to use or play content whenever they want without a internet connection, as in physical media. Some companies only offer streaming, they should offer digitally buying downloadable content though and that way people will be able to own physical copies by digitally downloading the content. So in that case, physical media will not go away anytime soon or "die" as some people say.
Physical media will never go away
As long as there is a market and some profit, there will be supply. I think physical will become more novel/niche as time wears on but I can't see the demand or the supply completely disappearing. The resurgence of vinyl records is a good example.
A lot of company are still making physical DVD, Blu-ray disc, still making physical CD music... hell in some case they are still making physical vinyl records! And you know why? Not everyone in the world are online pick any third world country and you'll fine many people are not on the internet and untill they can fine a way to have everyone online they will never stop making physical songs, movies or games.
"More than 60 million urban Americans don’t have access to or can’t afford broadband internet.
About 44 percent of people on average living in rural areas in India, China, Brazil, Japan, Germany, Russia, the U.K. and the U.S. don’t have access to or can’t afford broadband internet, according to a joint report released today by internet industry trade group Wireless Broadband Alliance and research firm IHS Markit."
I've always supported physical media and I will continue to do so, I've been screwed over with digital downloads before, I bought full albums off iTunes and only a year later several songs (notably hits) were missing, I have no idea where they went, all I know is I'll have to repurchase them, so yeah if this is the kind of crap they're going to pull on us they can kiss my ass
Physical Media is Better 💯
The only problem with physical ownership is that you need to store and maintain it. If your disc stops working past a warranty, then you don't own much. If your console stops working and you cannot repair or replace it, then your media stops being useful. I am all for consumers getting and keeping what they paid for, but discs, cartridges, consoles, boxes, books and so on are hard to keep for decades outside of a dedicated storage system.
I laugh when people stream music...I ain't waiting for no buffering or ads
i prefer digital media since i buy games to play them and not to claim ownership of them, i dislike clutter on my shelves, it’s easier to travel, it’s more environmentally friendly as plastic is not wasted to make packaging (especially in the case of the nintendo switch), and i’m also a fan of independent games (most of which are only available digitally)
even current games that are a disk usually require a huge download to get the rest of the game and fix bugs. so even current physical media isn't really complete. so either way you are screwed in the future.
I doubt physical media is going anywhere, especially for movies. Games, I think will stay physical for quite a while as there are a whole lot of benefits of physical, and the infrastructure is not strong enough to support digital.
Films on the other hand, I think DVD will die off but not Blu-ray. Netflix will replace DVD there is no doubt, but Blu-ray is just better than Netflix, and I don't think thats objective. 7.1 sound, 4K video capability, even the 1080p is better because it's less compressed than Netflix.
Netflix will be the everyman format, while Blu-ray remains the enthusiast format it sought out to be. It's like Laserdisc and VHS. VHS is Netflix, and Laserdisc is Blu-ray, and BD has a better foot now than Laserdisc ever did.
I really want physical copies to stay. i alwas feel nostalgia when puting in a ps2 game but playing my digital ps3 games i just dont feel the same way.
Your channel is very underrated for how good it is
Physical Media is slowly dying because of the lazy generation today. This kids want everything handed over to them in an instant. Sadly
Yep, he said it.
Eric Sedano i agree 1000000000000% with this. Lazy ass kids now a days don’t wanna do a god damn thing.
Are y'all 60 or older?
This is a very interesting topic for me. I've always been uncomfortable with digital media, and whilst I have bought many games digitally (particularly older games on XBLA, PSN and Virtual Console), I won't buy any modern AAA games digitally. Partly because they often cost MORE, but also because of the lack of physical media for future playing.
14 months ago I moved from UK to Netherlands. XBLA (which I finally updated today!) has presented no problems. Neither did Steam. Netflix required me to create a new account, but otherwise no problems (as nothing is stored locally anyway).
The two problems I found came from PSN and iTunes. Both required me to changed the region on my account (PSN actually required me to start a new account). This led to some problems.
iTunes - I am no longer "allowed" to access my previously paid for albums, apps etc. I CAN download them, and they are free of charge, but this requires me to know what apps they are (and I don't remember them all). It's not a massive deal in this case, as things that I've forgotten are hardly important to me, but still there's a principle here.
PSN - I am unable to download ANY of my purchase history on PS3 or Vita. Ever again. Emails to Sony confirm this is the way it is and they won't help me. The only way around this is to have downloaded all of my purchased games under my UK account and have that account still exist on the console. The side effect of this is that all my saved games became unusable, as they are linked to the old account.
Yet I still have a Gameboy Color, PSP, DS, Mega Drive, SNES, and a library of games that can never be taken from me.
You probably should also have mentioned rights expiration issues-licensed games and other media could be the worst hit when the property changes hands or contracts expire. I generally buy digital these days, but I'm glad physical is still out there for now.
As far as music goes, there is the flip side in the resurgence of vinyl and cassettes. It'll never make up for the losses in CDs and downloads, but it is interesting. Optical drives themselves will probably remain for some time, however-even though flash media is replacing it and many new computers don't include one, I think writable media will keep them going in some form for a bit longer.
I've always thought about this. I used to think I was right and more ready for the future accepting and even wanting everything to go digital. Thinking physical media is nothing but obsolete. But then I realized, it really is nice being able to own and hold the physical box to a game. It's no fun to collect if you can't display it. Not to mention, sometimes it's just easier to get things out that way. Instead of having to download some huge file, you can just buy it on a disk. And the points you brought up only makes it more clear. That physical content isn't really archaic or obsolete. It's just another way to store digital content. And a better one, at that.
The solution is:
- drm-free (no drm)
that's why use gog is better than use a drm store.
All this "convenience" can be overwhelming. Maybe it's a combination of corporate greed and wanton piracy that's brought these weird times upon us. Lamentably, I have to keep reminding myself it isn't 1998 anymore and maybe streaming everything ever made onto a smartphone is what the kids are accustomed to these days. I may look absurd with my Sony Walkman cassette player and my Gameboy Color, but that's what I liked growing up, if it can be said at all that I've "grown up". Thanks a ton for your videos, TDNC; you're super kewl.
I still love the artwork and sleeve covers for physical media, you cannot beat it. Nothing better than owning an item in your hand and appreciating how it was made and put together. This is why I will always choose physical media
MORE PERSONS NEED TO BUY MORE PHYSICAL MEDIA MOVIES MUSIC GAMES
LoL...they desperately want people to stop buying CD.
Digital downloads are stupid .Nothing tangible,One virus can wipe out your entire music library.Devices last only a couple years,Sounds like shit.
There isn't as much available in digital downloads either.
People are still buying older formats than CD
And Physical media creates more jobs at real factories.
I want something in my hand when i buy music.
Also I like the idea of people able to play content offline for a certain amount of time or with a certain amount of data. Like some music apps, like Spotify let users have offline access to music. This could be carried over to other forms of media like video games and movies and tv, and e-books, and all digital content.
i still buy cds and dvds for the aesthetic. i love how they look on my shelf and i just prefer having physical copies over digital copies, because there's more sentimentality there. it also feels a lot more permanent. when you download something to your phone or you stream things it doesn't feel like you completely own it, because you can easily lose it (accidentally deleting it, phone breaking, forgetting your login details, etc). discs can break too and they get worn out eventually, but when you can actually hold what you own in your hands it feels more real.
I’ve been making this same argument about drm over music, films and games. My friends kind of get it but they don’t care as much as long as media is “convenient”.
This is *the* reason to keep physical media alive. A digital-only model for the whole industry takes control out of the hands of the consumer. You will no longer own your games, movies, and music, but merely a license to access them on a giant corporation's servers. With physical media, I own my own copy of the album, game, or movie, and as long as I have the hardware to play it, I can always do so. That all said, digital *should* be available as an option because in a lot of ways, it's just more convenient, especially streaming. One model that I personally like is with music: there's an album I wanna check out, so I listen to it on Spotify. Then, if I like it, I add it to my library. Finally, I go out and buy the album on physical media to show that I like it. With film streaming, I can do the same thing. Gaming is a bit trickier, but I think it can be done in some way. 20 years from now, I want a world where digital/streaming and physical media aren't opposites, but compliments.
I still buy CDs and 4K Blurrays (or standard Blurrays and DVDs for older TV shows). It takes increasing ingenuity to store them though. As for computer games, because the software makes physical copies behave like items bought in the online store, I've largely given up on physical purchases, but I have bought a nice limited edition boxed version of Civilization 6.
Nearly three years on from this video and physical media is still going strong! heck,.we even have 4k movies on disc now usually coupled with a Blu-ray.
I much prefer physical media. With digital media there is nothing to physically collect, display, hold. Also special features and steel books too! :-) Physical for life!!!
The future is digital like it or not...it's evolution.
Actually everything will die Even you're precious HDD but I agree with you digital copy is the best
Trump 2020. Like it or not. I drink liberal tears.
Physical Media will never go away it will Never Die I love Buying blu ray Movies and 4k Movies physical Media will never Die 💯
Well, it probably will though
After having trouble finding a few movies and TV shows on streaming, I've decided it's time to go back to physical. I'm buying a 4K player when I get the chance, and I'm currently buying 4K and Blu Ray discs, while also digging up my old DVDs. It's only a matter of time before they start fucking with the movies and shows I love, and pulling them down due to politics or ownership issues. Better to be safe than sorry
Well let's say for example, you've bought or rented more or less every film you like from You Tube with no expiration date, you're not really going to bother with any physical media of those titles anymore because of the sheer convenience of the You Tube platform, that's the beauty of modern technology. You Tube and Netflix are like the new Blockbuster, but a hell of a lot more convenient.
Essentially the "expiration date" becomes the date the company decides to no longer support your digital media.
You totally read my mind! Great vid! I love going back to my old games to play them. I really don't want to have to depend an outward source to play games I paid for.
I resent the idea of physical media dying! Download media sucks! While I do still buy the odd piece of music, the odd TV episode and the odd game digitally and I do have a Netflix subscription, I MUCH prefer to have physical copies of media! I am really loving my Ultra HDTV and I do plan to get an Ultra HD Blu Ray player before too long! Despite still not yet having such a player, I do own Ultra HD Blu Ray discs of Sausage Party and Storks! On the music front, people have been buying vinyl records again, I've seen turntables in hmv and I've even seen records for sale at grocery stores! I may be more a CD person but the vinyl revival is increasing the likelihood that we will still be able to buy physical copies of music in the future! Also, smartphone culture sucks, I'm getting sick of it. Not only do I prefer to buy physical game cards for my 3DS, Vita and Switch, but when iOS 11 drops, I will no longer be able to play a lot of the iOS games I PAID FOR, WITH MONEY, over the past 9 years! This is another contributing factor to why we still need to be able to buy media, be it movies, music, games or anything else, in physical form!
I do generally buy physical whenever it's possible to do so; specifically for console games and extra-specifically for Nintendo, which i collect a lot of.
Though for PC games, I'm so used to using Steam by this point that it's not much of an issue. Steam at least for now still looks like it'll outlive me; but even there, there are plenty of examples of defunct and removed games.
DRM seems to be the biggest issue here; and I can't help but think that there's a better way for publishers to protect their sales than the always-on model most games use. Humble and GOG seem to be doing just fine selling DRM-free games, so I'd like to think that a little trust might go a long way.
Unless Gaming entities want to alienate countries with crap internet speeds, I don't think they will go to the All digital/Always online thing. They may be planning to step away from physical media but I don't think that they can, at the very least, not yet.
Very informative video, I'm a big fan.
Well, this is why we have various forms of homebrew, jailbreak, henkaku, whatever its called. once support is ended, dataminers find a way to put some clientside, or even a private server for such things.
Lol digital is going to kill itself. 500GB isnt enough on my ps4 and im not buying Vita cards
Tsar Marklovski exactly lmao
You're gonna need to download shit even with a disk lmao
At first around 2009-2010 I was really excited about digital distribution, although I still bought lots of physical games. However now I am really, really hesitant towards it as I have seen stores de-list many games, and services shut down. Now I pretty much only go physical unless it is under $10 and only digital, and games I like that make physical copies like shovel knight I just buy the physical release after.
I love cds I don’t know why but I love having them it’s better than just downloading. Also I use a surround sound hi fi system for cds and the quality is great ... better than you would have on your phone with headphones
The good thing about streaming only is that items aren't shipped all over the planet, polluting it for our convenience.
Conversely, as someone who collects kung-fu movies, DVD imports are still the main way to get them because who's going to stream the likes of "He Has Nothing But Kung-Fu"??. Other collectors go for VHS and Laser Disc, though I'm not quite that hardcore myself. I have a few VCDs and that's as obscure as it goes for me.
There are upload and share sites, I have thought about dabbling in this but it kind of cripples the industry.
Another interesting thing is more obscure DVDs being made to order. This has happened with a number of films lately. Like Warner Bros have done with "Pedicab Driver." (few if any of you will know this movie which explains why it is so.)
Why do you have to have an internet connection to play (unless its only an online multiplayer)
Cant you just download the game to the drive and its there to play in the future without being online?
I think some things you can only access digital today will become physical, like for example digital assistants like Siri, Alexa, Cortana... today you have to send your data to the cloud to be processed before your device does what you want, but in the future this will all be done on the device itself.
this is why i buy CDs. Soon nothing will be real, all just on computers.
Victor Williams I’m not disagreeing with you or anything, but if someone living fifteen years ago was told someone would say something like this in the future they wouldn’t believe you. Time flies, things get weird. I can’t even imagine what we will be saying in ten years.
Keep your CDs safe, someone will thank you in the future.
Files are real
While I buy digital movies and games, I will never stop buying physical books and papers. I just far prefer the feeling of holding a book.
Interesting perspective; and one I share completely. I doubt physical media will go away anytime soon due to several reasons:
1. The inherent flaw of the subscription based model.
You can only subscribe to a certain amount of services till the costs outweigh the benefits. For example, let's say i have netflix, hulu, crunchy roll, photoshop cc, a cloud storage service, a music streaming service, etc. Lets say that all adds up to about $150-$200 a month. Terrible,but doable. Now...a few years down the line, even more services that used to be buy once, use forever adopt a subscription based model and your monthly bill triples that amount.
2. One-time cost vs. Subscription for certain products.
Fast forward into the future where everything has a subscription based model of some sort. Isabela likes video games and would never pay a subscription for one, but would for storage solutions. Ricardo pays for local storage and doesn't trust cloud based solutions with pics of his junk as far as you can throw them, but would pay a subscription for video games.
You're an audiophile and you love high quality music. All the streaming services out there only offer low quality mp3 that is borderline tolerable and the the ones who offer FLAC are double the cost of mp3 and their service is spotty compared to the 'big chain' music streaming companies. FLAC isn't even the highest quality music file you listen to, but it's the only option available.
You could have just bought the album or a selection of songs and converted them to whatever format you wanted, but now you can't legally because you don't own that music file; only the right to play it through their subscription service. And even if they did, your audio encoding software's subscription has ended and you don't have enough money burning a hole in your pocket to renew it. Double whammy. Others might look at the price, shrug, and pay for it because they aren't that invested into hearing high quality music, just a sub par listening experience because it's a 'good deal'.
3. They'll charge a 'premium' for the physical version.
This one is the biggest cash grab. Some companies will crop up claiming that it's much more labor intensive (ya don't say!?), hurts mother earth (because digital media is inherently green and eco friendly right?. /sarcasm) to make and distribute physical media. The quality of these products haven't increased, but they assure you that they have, therefore expecting you to pay a marked up price for the 'novelty' of holding it in your hands like the good old times. Effectively, you're paying a premium for the ownership of this copy.
and this is assuming that they've upgraded the infrastructure to handle all of this, which I doubt would happen even before this gets implemented. Of course, they'll need some money to fix that too...
Physical media has it's drawbacks but as it currently stands it runs circles around digital when reliability and practicality are concerned, so long as it doesn't need to phone home with the DRM they shove into everything nowadays. And very cost effective if you take good care of your stuff
Yeah, and about the Psvita, some game companies just doesn't want their games on it, and some even doesn't want it to be able to take screenshots, I recently know this because I was having fun capturing some screen shots for a PSP game on my vita, but with the new firmware I can't, some people say that it's a technical issue, but the only technicality is found with the lawyers of the companies.
The files revolution started around 2009 . Then few company s stopped manufacturing CD players. Now we have 2018 and CD is still strong.
Physical - you own it
Digital - you rent it
Hearing more and more people saying the next gen after ps4/xbone will be digital only. That is so scary, I do not even want to think about it
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I completely agree, though I do think that consoles always will have at least some games that also can be bought physically. That will probably not be the case with music and movies, which I won't have any problems with whatsoever. Digital games I do have a problem with though.
Take fx a cheap PSN copy of GTA V I bought last year. I downloaded it from another guys PSN profile (after I paid a very cheap price over Ebay), and the game worked just fine for a long time. Then one day I couldn't renew my PS+ membership, and since there wasn't anything I wanted to play just yet, I kept it "un-renewed". After some months without really using my PS4 for games, I wanted to play again and renewed my membership. Suddenly I couldn't play GTA anymore, since it apparently only was playable from that other guys profile (which I promised never to use after the download). This is a fine example of when a developer can "take" the game from you, although you've paid for it and got it legit. I don't care that much anymore about GTA, since I bought it both back on launch on prev gen, and then also on PS4. All I know is that I'm not going to pay for it a 3rd time, then I rather just let it be locked and unplayed.
PHYSICAL MEDIA BETTER DO NOT DIE OUT
I’ve never had this happen with a digital game...
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pokemonfan530 Yep!
It makes me think of the Netflix produced films. There are some fantastic films they have on there service like Gerald’s Game that may never get a physical release. It sucks that at any point Netflix could just remove the film from their service and we could never get to experience it again. I think it’s cool that Netflix is producing its own content to compete with other services but I wish they could make it so cinephiles like me can enjoy the film at home anytime, anywhere.
DRM Free is important on consoles as it is on PC. It helps protect customers and preserve products for historical purposes. Personal archives are very important. Ever play a digital re-release of Crazy Taxi? It's not the same without the original soundtrack...
The one problem I have with physical media with music is the fact that I can't purchase individual songs easily if I want to enjoy it for a week or two. Besides that I'm with physical media all the way. I love being able to hold the things I buy.
If you never lived in an era where you have to get physical stuff that you paid for it...then you will never understand...!
My gaming laptop doesnt even have a disk drive and I never missed the disk drive either on the other laptops that do have a disk drive I also never used the disk drive on those aswell
The word "digital" is misused. CDs are digital.
Back when there was the format war between DVD and Divx. Divx was the rental model. It consisted of discs that could be unlocked by calling over the phone. I believe Disney was one of studio supporters of Divx. That format war last only about 9 months with DVD eventually winning out. The thing I like about physical media is that I pay for something once and I own it forever. I have CDs from the 80s and DVD's from the early 2000s that are bought and paid for, for over 20 years. No need for a monthly charge. That's why I still buy physical media today. A one time charge and I'm done.
I don't know what it is, perhaps it might be because it was how I was brought up but I've always just loved browsing in an ACTUAL shop. Be it films, games or music, you just can't replicate the same experience on your app store or on consoles. I guess I'm just more traditional but what is so wrong with bothering to walk down the road to a shop? Fair play if you live far away from shops and stuff but that isn't an excuse for some people I know because I swear it's just laziness that encourages them to buy digital copies rather than walking 5 minutes down the road. One day everything will be online and we'll have no reason to leave our house and we'll be complete and utter slaves to the machine dependant on consistent wi-fi. My younger brother acts like the end of the world when his stupid videos start to buffer :/
damn bro that is so true....nothing like the feeling and smell of visiting a movie rental shop and buying a snack or drink after
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I think as soon as enough people jump onto Netflix and stuff like that, the studios will eventually stop mass production of discs and just put out "digital copies" and stuff like that. Especially when the older generations die off completely. Of course discs will still be sold, but it will be a niche thing through companies like Shout Factory and Scream Factory or Warner Archives On-Demand. But the mainstream days of "Now on DVD and Blu-ray!" will be over. It's way more cheaper for studios to just put out digital files rather than produce a physical product.
As far as not owning a digital file, well.....that's without a doubt how the studios want it to be. With a disc, they can't control what you do, with a file they have you at their fingertips.
There will always be a physical game niche, and some game developers will continue support. But often we just get download discs, which to be frank, are f£©king stupid.
I would be curious to see if there’s some kind of renaissance when the copyrights of the first widely commercially available video games start expiring in about 35 years. It would also be interesting to see what physical media still exists in that time. And whether they will still be highly sought after.
Mirror's Edge! I have the Original as well with a CD music! So lovely that you have too!
I personally think that digital only will be a decent gimmick for a short while, but if the vinyl revival trend is anything to go by, people will eventually become fed up with these shady tactics and start buying films, video games etc. on physical media.
The only digital stuff I always buy are Steam and Origin games for PC. For my movies and console games, I always buy them in discs.
Why do digital media charge the same as physical media ?
Well you stated that Nintendo’s next console would be digital, while the Nintendo Switch is physical...physical cartridge (GAME CARD).
Its alot more easy to change history when there is no record to look at.
The irony is, the only way to overcome the retention issues of cloud based services is through physical local backups and perhaps hacking the code in order to 'reactivate' the content. Ever go online to watch a favorite video of yours, play a game or listen to your favorite songs only to discover that clip/track/game has been pulled?
I have felt the companies were long moving toward the over glorified rent model for some time. They also have been trying to do similar things with autos and appliances. The problem with things built to last is that once a customer has it they do not require another. I personally try to buy a disc for movies and shows I want to own. I stick to digital for the one time watch things so they won't clutter up my space. On games I buy physical I'd available unless there is a severe price advantage to the digital one.
This is really important! Awesome points.