As a black kid from the hood of chicago, i loved friday nites. To capture my attention, this show must've been darn good. My whole immediate family would watch CBS for the Hulk, dukes of hazzard and Dallas. I dont remember these 2 implants however.
I just wish folks from backgrounds like yours and a white fella who lives in a rural county in the Midwest. Would be able to cone together and love this show and understand that we shouldn’t let a flag ruin everything this show stood for. I love the car. I wish everyone could love this show and for the most part ignore the flag on the top of the car but remember that the flag did represent awful period in American history. But to put it in perspective and see this is just a tv show
No sir! My pops explained some things to me once I got a bit older. He and mom allowed their kids to enjoy family nite without the harsh realities of what general Lee and confederate flag meant.
As a Southerner, I didn't like this show at 1st. But after I started really watching it, I got to appreciate it more for it's comedy and ridiculousness. I miss seeing it now.
They darn near ruined the show by letting John and Tom walk, even if temporarily. The most interesting part of the whole scenario is that after about 10 or 11 episodes with Coy and Vance, Bo and Luke returned, and Coy and Vance were never mentioned again. What the actors were asking for wasn't unreasonable and should have been provided in the first place. Idiot producers. I think the series would have gone another 2 or 3 seasons without this stupid interruption. That isn't a knock on the Coy/Vance actors, but they just didn't work.
Coy and Vance may have been unpopular and accused of causing the series to jump the shark. But at least they plugged the gap while the Bo and Luke actors were on strike and kept the series from cancellation during that time.
That wouldnt have gone over well with the real actors of Bo and Luke. It would be no different than a bunch of scabs who'd cross the picket line during a strike
@@bullock4211 You might be right, I can't speak for them. But they did encourage Catherine Bach to stay fearing if she left the show would not make it for them to come back. Which implies they did seem to think it was better if the show continued, and presumably Coy and Vance knew their time was likely short lived. Not saying there wasn't animosity but might not be exactly like a scab worker situation in a normal strike, where the company was supposed to not run without the people striking.
@@dantheman8103 Bo and Luke asked her to stay on because if she would've left the show would've probably been cancelled and it was going to be canceled probably by the end of that season because the ratings dropped like a rock after Bo and Luke left, so in order to save the show CBS had to renegotiate Bo and Luke's contract, I believe they left because they wanted more money.
Listen, Coy and Vance may have been unpopular, but at least neither a violent psychopath like Luke Duke. Luke was a very sick, dangerous individual from a young age, starting when he cracked a Louisville Slugger over Bo’s head.(Discussed in s05e26). Then Luke went to the Marines where he saw things he never quite recovered from. After an OTH discharge, he drifted around, becoming involved in a fight where he beat a guy to death: Luke stomped the poor bastard in the throat, then stood there and watched him die. Luke mentions this in the season 3 episode “In this Corner, Luke Duke”. Eventually, the law catches up with Luke, and he ends up doing time in prison (s07e07 “Cool Hands Bo and Luke”). In prison you don’t have nice little fights. In prison you have to kill the other guy. And in the special episode “Carnival of Thrills”, Luke once again gets in a fight with his cousin. He is about to seriously injure Bo, to the point that it takes Uncle Jesse *armed with a shotgun* to stop Luke from administering another deadly stomping.. Finally, Coy and Vance may have been dorks, but they knew how to respect women. Unlike Luke who sexually assaults Sara at the Boar’s Nest in the season 7 episode “Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Duke”. When Bo attempts to intervene, Luke sucker punches him yet again, knocking him over some tables. Uncle Jesse immediately sends someone to get ice for Bo’s injuries. Later, in the same epsiode, Like pulls a gun on Bo. He has a crazed look in his eyes - the type of look that there is no reasoning with. Bo was extraordinarily fortunate in that he was able to knock Luke out before he killed someone. So overall, not a huge fan of Coy and Vance. But certainly they are better role models than a murdering, insane, bank robbing felon.
In a parallel universe, somewhere in the infinite cosmos, the original Duke boys were Coy and Vance, and Bo and Luke were the clones - and everyone hated it just as much.
Well, to be fair, Bo and Luke walked off the set because they weren't getting the merchandise royalties they were suppose to. Coy and Vance didn't cause that. If anything, they kept the show alive while Bo and Luke were on strike. To be sure, the ratings dropped with Coy and Vance. But without them, there would not have been a show for Bo and Luke to come back to.
Hey Retrofanty. I actually liked a lot of the Coy and Vance episodes. Certainly the 2 "Big Mean Green Machine" episodes. The episode where Coy blamed himself for a man's 'supposed death' was good. Also the one where the Dukes had to campaign for Rosco. And especially the one where Uncle Jesse tried to stop a robbery and temporarily lost his sight.
***** Oh yea! I did like "Ding Dong, the Boss Is Dead." And you know what's SO ironic? The main reason Bo and Luke went on strike was because of royalties on the merchandise. But the other reason was they wanted better scripts. And ironically, this 2nd demand was met while they were on strike. Rosco and Boss even got more intelligent again. It's as if Coy and Vance's more subdued nature inspired better writing. 1 is my favorite Season. 6 is my 2nd favorite. And 5 is my 3rd favorite.
***** Forgot something. The situation could have been handled better. In S2, when James Best was on strike, Boss Hogg said words to the effect that Rosco was away at Police Academy and he'll be back when he's trained. Do you have any idea of how long that will take? Funny way to cover Mr. Best being on strike. But it also tell us he will be back eventually. They may have done better if they said Bo and Luke were away taking care of something, and Coy and Vance were helping until Bo and Luke got back.
bo and luke yes they are better than coy and vance, but as said in the documentary, the general lee was the main star of the show, along side Daisy Duke
I would've loved to see the four of them do a few episodes together. Show some family bonding and all that other good stuff that the Dukes do in order to give Boss and Roscoe a bad day in Hazzard lol.
What's amazing is the show lasted a few more seasons even after Coy and Vance. Usually a major character change like this signals the death note of a show
Technically, it was the death note. This was the point where the ratings started going downward. Even after Bo and Luke came back the ratings never recovered.
Well kind of, the show hit it peak in Season's 2-5 (1979-1982) where it was consistently in the top 10 most watched shows. It did decline in ratings after that. Whether that had anything to do with the Coy and Vance debacle or just normal audience drift from a show that been running for five years, is open for debate. But even after that, the ratings were considered solid enough for it to be considered a popular primetime show. In fact, it was cancelled after initially being renewed for an 8th season, which is why there was never any "farewell" episode with Season 7, the writers and cast had all been told there would be at least one more season. The decision too cancel came down more to how expensive the show had gotten than to ratings, between actor salaries and stunt costs, it was the most expensive primetime show at the time, only exceeded when Star Trek: The Next Generation premiered with it's huge special effects budget.
The show never said, but I think all their parents died in an accident together. Also remember Jeb Stuart Duke who appeared in season 3. so altogether there is Bo, Luke, Daisy, Coy, Vance, Jeb Stuart, and Luke's brother.
Say what you want about Coy and Vance (yes, we all know they were store brand look-a-likes and their "acting" was downright atrocious), but there were still some great episodes during their run. Like someone else here said, it's like the writers knew that they needed to step up their efforts to hopefully keep the fans interested. The plots were decent and also seemed to focus more on some of the other characters and gave them a chance to shine. Byron and Chip knew they couldn't replace Jon and Tom and you have to figure they knew good and well going in that the fans would never accept them, but if they hadn't stepped in, the show would have been over right there on the spot and there would have been no show for Jon and Tom to come back to. So if nothing else we owe them thanks for keeping the show alive at the very least. Just my thoughts on it.
In Interviews the actors said they knew it was just going to be a temporary gig. They should’ve at least let coy and Vance do the whole episode with Bo and Luke
No real point. Their characters were exactly the same as Bo and Luke from what I remember. Granted, it has been a while since I saw them but I read that for most they literally just changed the names Bo and Luke to Coy and Vance in the scripts written before Bo and Luke left, and nothing else. And it showed. I get they didn't have much time but shame the show never tried to make the best of it, give them different personalities and try to tell some stories they could have with Bo and Luke. Should have given them a better send off too, sure there was some animosity between the actors given the circumstances, but the four duke boys working together to stop one especially grand sceme of Boss Hog would have been a better send off then getting them out as fast as possible, likely so they could just change Coy and Vances name in the script to Bo and Luke with minimal re-writes.
I read the girl playing Daisy wanted to quit The show When Bo and Luke left but The cast encouraged her to stay by telling her ratings would fall without her.But its a shame Coy Vance Bo and Luke didnt get to appear together after Bo and Lukes return I would have liked to see what all four boys would have done to Boss Hogg through the rest of Series
If I'm not mistaken, I think the stunt man that did that jump hurt his back doing it because the car landed flat when it hit the ground. Cory Eubanks who was one of the stunt men on the show said that when he jumped the car, he wanted it to hit nose first to help absorb the impact.
I was a kid when this happened and I didn’t know why , I just stopped watching the show and when no & Luke we’re back I watched again . I was like 10 or 11 years old
Daisy you haven't changed much in 6 years. what do you mean I ain't well maybe your clothes shrunk a Little. what a thing to tell his cousin LMAO I remember When this episode first aired..and he said those lines at the time I lost it. the water I was drinking went every where in coughing laughter. LOL
Astraldragon1 OMG I thought the same damn thing!!! Kissing cousins lol. And why in the fuck did he run over the top of the car w his damn boots?? No skill at all! Ugh that just burned me up.
I love that they had seven cousins on this show (including Jeb Stuart Duke and Jud Kane), but only Luke and Jud were siblings, and none of them were Uncle Jesse's children.
I watched the series with my older brothers, but the 1982-83 season we lived abroad in Europe when I was 7-8, so I never knew about Coy and Vance because they were gone by the time I returned. I only learned about them much later. That was the season to miss.
What I love about this show - similar to Justified with Timothy Olyphant and MASH - is viewer dependence on delusional cognition because all were filmed in similar California locations that have no resemblance to Georgia (DH), eastern Kentucky (Justified), or South Korea (Mash). Daisy's buxom shirts, taut breasts, and heavenly cleavage were my points of delusional departure and for all I cared two distantly related panda bears could visit the ranch. Her poster was also sweet.
remember that back in the day when they are famemos all these years and I miss Chris in memory of Vanse Duke God bless those Dukes of Hazard fokes down in Hazard coutey
Here is something that I have always wondered. Bo, Luke and Daisy were all cousins, as were Coy and Vance. They never referred to each other as siblings, so it leaves one do wonder as to how many siblings did "Uncle Jesse" have?
Based just on the number of cousins we met in the show, it would have had to have been at least six brothers, with Jessie being the 7th. But, if you buy the theory that Jesse could have been Luke & Bo's Great Uncle, then that opens up much wider possibilities.
@@blainevolesky9653 True, but isn't it stretching the imagination just a bit that all six brothers AND their wives are all dead (remember, there was another cousin, Jeb Stewart Duke in an episode called "Along came a Duke).
Why does he have to climb over the hood....twice....in cowboy boots? are the scratches worth the quarter second he shave by not walking around the front of the car?
It was a Duke racing car thing. The driver jumped over car to save time. Not to mention the General Lee's doors were welded shut. Even if Vance and Coy's car wasn't.
John and Tom recommended the actors who played Coy and Vance Bryon Cherry and Christopher Mayor. They did that before they walked out so they wouldn't leave the producers with noone in their place.
There's a line/scene where uncle Jesse and Daisy talking about now that bo and Luke are gone it looks like the general lee is going to be used as a grocery getter. But I never saw that part again in the reruns.
The day the ratings dropped so bad!!! As I heard. I tried to give Coy and Vance a chance, but they just looked like clones to Bo and Luke. Well, I should say, it's not their fault the ratings dropped by the way. They just filled in to keep the show going and also it wasn't there fault too that John and Tom walked out. I am glad Bo and Luke came back though. They had an idea about keeping Coy and Vance along with Bo and luke, but much of a smaller role though, until they thought FOUR Dukes couldn't work at all. The episode, Welcome Back Bo and Luke, it was also the one Coy and Vance departed and they were never seen again. Big disappointment from fans and including myself. Besides, the producers and/or creators should have went with a different direction with Coy and Vance.
The recast with Coy was good the problem is the arrogance of Warner Brothers for working the cast to death and not wanting to pay them because when the original cast members returned they should have kept Coy and Vance to give the show more depth with new and improved storylines.
I wasn't around in these days so I'm just gonna put it the way my uncle who was did! Sure people didn't like Coy and Vance.But he said after their 1 season run he said he was sure that a Coy and Vance spinoff would've been successful.
@:47 Coy obviously hadn't mastered the Bo Duke hood slide. He spent more time and energy scuffing the hood of that car with his boots than if he had simply walked around the front of it.
My sister lived in Los Angeles in the early 1990s, and the guy who played Coy was a friend of a friend of hers. This was several years after the show had ended, and he was working at a Red Lobster trying to make ends meet. Apparently, his prize possession was a Dukes of Hazzard lunchbox with his own face on it.
One time my niece called the house saying "Uncle Bobby, The Dukes of Hazzard are on." A minute later, she'd say "aw nuts, it's got Coy and Vance". It's not their fault that the ratings tanked!
i always wondered what happened to that old blue Plymouth Fury back in season 1 Luke blew it up put it in a junkyard Coy and Vance found it restored it and then jumped it now in Season 5
It would've been fun to see Bo,Luke, Coy,Vance from the Beginning because it would've been more Exciting with all 4 of them on the Show getting into trouble with each other
I wish they could have given them their own identity instead of trying to copy Bo and Luke...i mean, even dressed and looked like them...i wonder what happened to the cousins after the real Duke Boys came back?
Back when this show aired, I had a 69 roadrunner, orange with white stripes, 383, 4 spd, after I would get done watching an episode I would got out and burn the tires grabbing gears, it was fun as hell, I lived in a small town where everybody knew everyone's business, never got into trouble except one time I got drunk opened up the headers and started hot rodding around , someone called the law, I ended up out running the cop car, it was cool but I did get caught later that night neighbor turned me in, but town so small it was just a matter of time, car had good reputation, but I didn't, but it was sure fun.
If I had only painted my dads 68 galaxy orange it probably might have survived when I jumped it duke style. But it was only white and ended up looking like one of Roscoe’s cars
Here comes Doctor Home, cousin of House, he's got a bad ankle so he well be using a walking stick, and since he lost his luggage, he will be wearing House's clothes too...
I don't understand. As part of their parole agreement, Bo and Luke were not allowed to leave Hazzard County. But now we're told they've gone to race on the NASCAR circuit. Does Hazzard County have a whole bunch of racetracks for them to drive on so they don't violate the terms of their parole?
I guess they weren't allowed to go into certain counties, like chickasaw county. but atlanta I guess they can like the second episode Daisys Song, they went to atlanta, but they cant go into chickasaw, or osage
NASCAR is a big sporting event, with lots of powerful financial backers. Maybe Bo and Luke's sponsors pulled some strings with their parole officer....
Strictly speaking, they weren't allowed to leave the county without Boss Hogg's permission. If, for some reason (i.e. there was something in it for him) he gave them permission to leave Hazzard, then they could do so.
I liked Byron Cherry and Christopher Mayer, and thought they did the best they could with what they were given. That said, the fans might have taken it better had Coy and Vance not been such blatant copies of Bo and Luke. If they had different traits and personalities they might have been more successful.
Coy and Vance should have helped Bo and Luke in their final episode or make it a 2 parter to wrap things up. Then sometime in Season 6 or 7 have them turn heel working for Boss Hogg in an episode or 2.
What sense that would've made, for them to turn heel, they're Dukes, and family. Kind of glad, that it wasn't all 4 of them working together, just have them be their own duos, glad it was kept like it was.
Well this was the moment the show jumped the shark. I mean really, Bo and Luke gone and two look-alikes step in? And when Bo and Luke were back Coy and Vance didn't even have send off, not even a "let's have them work together" moment.
When Bo and Luke returned they should have had a Episode with a Boss Hog Scheme so big that all 4 had to deal with it. before Coy and Vance left. that would have been nice.
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As a black kid from the hood of chicago, i loved friday nites.
To capture my attention, this show must've been darn good.
My whole immediate family would watch CBS for the Hulk, dukes of hazzard and Dallas.
I dont remember these 2 implants however.
It captured a lot of black kids attention, because it wasn't much else to watch....
I just wish folks from backgrounds like yours and a white fella who lives in a rural county in the Midwest. Would be able to cone together and love this show and understand that we shouldn’t let a flag ruin everything this show stood for.
I love the car. I wish everyone could love this show and for the most part ignore the flag on the top of the car but remember that the flag did represent awful period in American history. But to put it in perspective and see this is just a tv show
No sir!
My pops explained some things to me once I got a bit older.
He and mom allowed their kids to enjoy family nite without the harsh realities of what general Lee and confederate flag meant.
As a Southerner, I didn't like this show at 1st. But after I started really watching it, I got to appreciate it more for it's comedy and ridiculousness. I miss seeing it now.
They darn near ruined the show by letting John and Tom walk, even if temporarily. The most interesting part of the whole scenario is that after about 10 or 11 episodes with Coy and Vance, Bo and Luke returned, and Coy and Vance were never mentioned again. What the actors were asking for wasn't unreasonable and should have been provided in the first place. Idiot producers. I think the series would have gone another 2 or 3 seasons without this stupid interruption. That isn't a knock on the Coy/Vance actors, but they just didn't work.
When I was a kid I totally still recognized them as Discount Dukes.
One of the best entrances to a show... classic
That's also how I pictured the entrance of the new younger generation of duke boys if there was to be a reboot of the show
Disappointed he didn't slide across the hood. Had two opportunities.
Coy and Vance may have been unpopular and accused of causing the series to jump the shark. But at least they plugged the gap while the Bo and Luke actors were on strike and kept the series from cancellation during that time.
That wouldnt have gone over well with the real actors of Bo and Luke. It would be no different than a bunch of scabs who'd cross the picket line during a strike
@@bullock4211 You might be right, I can't speak for them. But they did encourage Catherine Bach to stay fearing if she left the show would not make it for them to come back. Which implies they did seem to think it was better if the show continued, and presumably Coy and Vance knew their time was likely short lived. Not saying there wasn't animosity but might not be exactly like a scab worker situation in a normal strike, where the company was supposed to not run without the people striking.
@@dantheman8103 Bo and Luke asked her to stay on because if she would've left the show would've probably been cancelled and it was going to be canceled probably by the end of that season because the ratings dropped like a rock after Bo and Luke left, so in order to save the show CBS had to renegotiate Bo and Luke's contract, I believe they left because they wanted more money.
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Listen, Coy and Vance may have been unpopular, but at least neither a violent psychopath like Luke Duke. Luke was a very sick, dangerous individual from a young age, starting when he cracked a Louisville Slugger over Bo’s head.(Discussed in s05e26).
Then Luke went to the Marines where he saw things he never quite recovered from. After an OTH discharge, he drifted around, becoming involved in a fight where he beat a guy to death: Luke stomped the poor bastard in the throat, then stood there and watched him die. Luke mentions this in the season 3 episode “In this Corner, Luke Duke”. Eventually, the law catches up with Luke, and he ends up doing time in prison (s07e07 “Cool Hands Bo and Luke”). In prison you don’t have nice little fights. In prison you have to kill the other guy. And in the special episode “Carnival of Thrills”, Luke once again gets in a fight with his cousin. He is about to seriously injure Bo, to the point that it takes Uncle Jesse *armed with a shotgun* to stop Luke from administering another deadly stomping..
Finally, Coy and Vance may have been dorks, but they knew how to respect women. Unlike Luke who sexually assaults Sara at the Boar’s Nest in the season 7 episode “Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Duke”. When Bo attempts to intervene, Luke sucker punches him yet again, knocking him over some tables. Uncle Jesse immediately sends someone to get ice for Bo’s injuries. Later, in the same epsiode, Like pulls a gun on Bo. He has a crazed look in his eyes - the type of look that there is no reasoning with. Bo was extraordinarily fortunate in that he was able to knock Luke out before he killed someone.
So overall, not a huge fan of Coy and Vance. But certainly they are better role models than a murdering, insane, bank robbing felon.
In a parallel universe, somewhere in the infinite cosmos, the original Duke boys were Coy and Vance, and Bo and Luke were the clones - and everyone hated it just as much.
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Well, to be fair, Bo and Luke walked off the set because they weren't getting the merchandise royalties they were suppose to.
Coy and Vance didn't cause that. If anything, they kept the show alive while Bo and Luke were on strike. To be sure, the ratings dropped with Coy and Vance. But without them, there would not have been a show for Bo and Luke to come back to.
Hey Retrofanty. I actually liked a lot of the Coy and Vance episodes. Certainly the 2 "Big Mean Green Machine" episodes. The episode where Coy blamed himself for a man's 'supposed death' was good. Also the one where the Dukes had to campaign for Rosco. And especially the one where Uncle Jesse tried to stop a robbery and temporarily lost his sight.
***** Oh yea! I did like "Ding Dong, the Boss Is Dead."
And you know what's SO ironic? The main reason Bo and Luke went on strike was because of royalties on the merchandise. But the other reason was they wanted better scripts. And ironically, this 2nd demand was met while they were on strike. Rosco and Boss even got more intelligent again. It's as if Coy and Vance's more subdued nature inspired better writing.
1 is my favorite Season. 6 is my 2nd favorite. And 5 is my 3rd favorite.
***** Forgot something. The situation could have been handled better. In S2, when James Best was on strike, Boss Hogg said words to the effect that Rosco was away at Police Academy and he'll be back when he's trained. Do you have any idea of how long that will take? Funny way to cover Mr. Best being on strike. But it also tell us he will be back eventually.
They may have done better if they said Bo and Luke were away taking care of something, and Coy and Vance were helping until Bo and Luke got back.
bo and luke yes they are better than coy and vance, but as said in the documentary, the general lee was the main star of the show, along side Daisy Duke
It would have been better that way. Shouldve been cancelled way before coy and Vance showed up. The only consistently good season is the first
I would've loved to see the four of them do a few episodes together. Show some family bonding and all that other good stuff that the Dukes do in order to give Boss and Roscoe a bad day in Hazzard lol.
I always thought the same thing. Imagine trying to stop 4 duke boys instead just 2.
Coy and Vance at the very least should have been in the whole episode where Bo and Luke came back.
It would’ve only made sense to have the four together in at least one episode to explain more. Story wise
Me too.
What's amazing is the show lasted a few more seasons even after Coy and Vance. Usually a major character change like this signals the death note of a show
Technically, it was the death note. This was the point where the ratings started going downward. Even after Bo and Luke came back the ratings never recovered.
@@jeremyzak654 and the alien episode jumped the shark
The ratings recovered almost immediately. The ratings for season 6 still placed it in the Top 10. Although, it was no longer #2 like it was in 1981.
Well kind of, the show hit it peak in Season's 2-5 (1979-1982) where it was consistently in the top 10 most watched shows. It did decline in ratings after that. Whether that had anything to do with the Coy and Vance debacle or just normal audience drift from a show that been running for five years, is open for debate. But even after that, the ratings were considered solid enough for it to be considered a popular primetime show. In fact, it was cancelled after initially being renewed for an 8th season, which is why there was never any "farewell" episode with Season 7, the writers and cast had all been told there would be at least one more season. The decision too cancel came down more to how expensive the show had gotten than to ratings, between actor salaries and stunt costs, it was the most expensive primetime show at the time, only exceeded when Star Trek: The Next Generation premiered with it's huge special effects budget.
Side note. They were also running out of 69 Chargers by the 7th season. They weren’t just cheap used cars like they were in Season 1
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And lest never forget Waylon Jennings & Uncle Jessie aka Denver Pyle.
All these cousins and an uncle, but no parents and offspring . . .
Makes you wonder how many siblings Uncle Jesse had...
People have tried to work it out. Turns out Luke's brother appeared in season 6: dukesofhazzard.wikia.com/wiki/Duke_Family
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The show never said, but I think all their parents died in an accident together. Also remember Jeb Stuart Duke who appeared in season 3. so altogether there is Bo, Luke, Daisy, Coy, Vance, Jeb Stuart, and Luke's brother.
Maybe the family tree was, well, not exactly a pole, but a little more straight than a tree should be!!!
Say what you want about Coy and Vance (yes, we all know they were store brand look-a-likes and their "acting" was downright atrocious), but there were still some great episodes during their run. Like someone else here said, it's like the writers knew that they needed to step up their efforts to hopefully keep the fans interested. The plots were decent and also seemed to focus more on some of the other characters and gave them a chance to shine. Byron and Chip knew they couldn't replace Jon and Tom and you have to figure they knew good and well going in that the fans would never accept them, but if they hadn't stepped in, the show would have been over right there on the spot and there would have been no show for Jon and Tom to come back to. So if nothing else we owe them thanks for keeping the show alive at the very least. Just my thoughts on it.
Thought the same thing!
All the acting in dukes of hazard was atrocious
I agree. I still enjoyed the show with Coy and Vance.
Not a thought. It's the truth..
In Interviews the actors said they knew it was just going to be a temporary gig. They should’ve at least let coy and Vance do the whole episode with Bo and Luke
We had flying cars in 80s.
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As a kid, if I remember correctly, this was the first “WTF” moment in my life.
Lol exactly!
Haha! Definitely a wtf moment a long time before we knew what a wtf moment was!
LMAO!! Dude, those are the exact words that came out of my mouth as a kid. I remember cause I got my ass whooped over it.
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It was just as mind numbing, confusing and disappointing as that day when you found out as a kid Santa Claus wasn't real.
Coy and Vance should have stayed on the show as secondary characters.
I did kinda hope that all four cousins would have at least one adventure together
That woulda been something to consider.
Would of been cool if Coy and Vince turned heel on Bo and Luke.
No real point. Their characters were exactly the same as Bo and Luke from what I remember. Granted, it has been a while since I saw them but I read that for most they literally just changed the names Bo and Luke to Coy and Vance in the scripts written before Bo and Luke left, and nothing else. And it showed. I get they didn't have much time but shame the show never tried to make the best of it, give them different personalities and try to tell some stories they could have with Bo and Luke. Should have given them a better send off too, sure there was some animosity between the actors given the circumstances, but the four duke boys working together to stop one especially grand sceme of Boss Hog would have been a better send off then getting them out as fast as possible, likely so they could just change Coy and Vances name in the script to Bo and Luke with minimal re-writes.
They should’ve at least let them Appear in the whole episode when bo and Luke came back
I read the girl playing Daisy wanted to quit The show When Bo and Luke left but The cast encouraged her to stay by telling her ratings would fall without her.But its a shame Coy Vance Bo and Luke didnt get to appear together after Bo and Lukes return I would have liked to see what all four boys would have done to Boss Hogg through the rest of Series
"Our planet needs us." - Coy and Vance
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Absolutely
Watched this as a kid ,wish Jesse would have pounded some sense into them. Loved Jesse's reaction, " Ooooook....I guess...."
Got a 69 charger finally an my ole lady blew a fuse but yes its going to be orange by summer!! Yee haw!!!!!!
Is it done yet?
Now you can’t drive it in Biden’s America...
Be sure and 01 it up wild cowboy
Then there's the lost episodes where Coy and Vance left and were replaced by two other lookalikes named Troy and Lance.
Some hilarious insestual and pervy inuendo in that opening dialogue. lol
Be offended at all times, by everything, everywhere....stay vigilant, never let your guard down. I salute you.
They weren’t bad at all. Kept the show going
Good point. I actually liked Coy and Vance.
So do I.definitely liked Coy and Vance,following in the footsteps of Bo and Luke
If I'm not mistaken, I think the stunt man that did that jump hurt his back doing it because the car landed flat when it hit the ground. Cory Eubanks who was one of the stunt men on the show said that when he jumped the car, he wanted it to hit nose first to help absorb the impact.
That's a simple matter of too much weight in the back end.
I was a kid when this happened and I didn’t know why , I just stopped watching the show and when no & Luke we’re back I watched again . I was like 10 or 11 years old
Daisy you haven't changed much in 6 years.
what do you mean I ain't
well maybe your clothes shrunk a Little.
what a thing to tell his cousin LMAO
I remember When this episode first aired..and he said those lines at the time I lost it. the water I was drinking went every where in coughing laughter. LOL
Astraldragon1 OMG I thought the same damn thing!!! Kissing cousins lol. And why in the fuck did he run over the top of the car w his damn boots?? No skill at all! Ugh that just burned me up.
yeah I notice he ran over the hood of the car... Bo or Luke would have slid across it.
Do you remember season one Bo told daisy he’d marry her if she weren’t his cousin and she said never stopped any one in this family
hay wait a minute, your rug looks like my rug, lol,....what some get wound up to do...lol
The best part of Season 5 was the Mean Green Machine.
I love that they had seven cousins on this show (including Jeb Stuart Duke and Jud Kane), but only Luke and Jud were siblings, and none of them were Uncle Jesse's children.
Even after Wopat and Schneider returned the show never fully recovered from this debacle. Many of its fans left and never came back.
I was one of them..
that was on the producers not the actors
@@hankwilliamsfan1986 Don't forget how they almost lost Sheriff Roscoe because they wouldn't give him so much as a dressing room.
I watched the series with my older brothers, but the 1982-83 season we lived abroad in Europe when I was 7-8, so I never knew about Coy and Vance because they were gone by the time I returned. I only learned about them much later. That was the season to miss.
A good thing no one was where the car landed. That entrance was so dumb, even for that show.
I could be wrong, but i think they had it kinda planned out where it would land...
I maybe wrong though.
Met Byrann Cherry years ago. I thought for sure he was short but he is same size as me 5’11”. Really nice guy
What I love about this show - similar to Justified with Timothy Olyphant and MASH - is viewer dependence on delusional cognition because all were filmed in similar California locations that have no resemblance to Georgia (DH), eastern Kentucky (Justified), or South Korea (Mash). Daisy's buxom shirts, taut breasts, and heavenly cleavage were my points of delusional departure and for all I cared two distantly related panda bears could visit the ranch. Her poster was also sweet.
remember that back in the day when they are famemos all these years and I miss Chris in memory of Vanse Duke God bless those Dukes of Hazard fokes down in Hazard coutey
The show's is very good for the team and I love it
Dollar store brand Bo and Luke
Them boys is mighty friendly with Cousin Daisy.
What a way to make an entrance.
Here is something that I have always wondered. Bo, Luke and Daisy were all cousins, as were Coy and Vance. They never referred to each other as siblings, so it leaves one do wonder as to how many siblings did "Uncle Jesse" have?
Jesse was probably born in the 1920s so it wouldn't be uncommon for him to have 5 or 6 siblings
Based just on the number of cousins we met in the show, it would have had to have been at least six brothers, with Jessie being the 7th. But, if you buy the theory that Jesse could have been Luke & Bo's Great Uncle, then that opens up much wider possibilities.
@@blainevolesky9653 True, but isn't it stretching the imagination just a bit that all six brothers AND their wives are all dead (remember, there was another cousin, Jeb Stewart Duke in an episode called "Along came a Duke).
I'd be satisfied of at least learning who their parents actually were
@@elvira2756 Nothing suggested Jeb Steward Duke's parents were actually dead.
From Season 5, Episode 1: "The New Dukes" (1982).
...the Good New Boys just ain't the same as the Good Ol' Boys
I’m glad these comments aren’t all negative. The fact most of y’all have come around to accept Coy and Vance makes me happy.
I liked Coy and Vance back in the 80s when they were on the show. I never disliked them.
Why does he have to climb over the hood....twice....in cowboy boots? are the scratches worth the quarter second he shave by not walking around the front of the car?
Save more time walking around the car
It was a Duke racing car thing. The driver jumped over car to save time. Not to mention the General Lee's doors were welded shut. Even if Vance and Coy's car wasn't.
Man I bet that Satellite was totally destroyed in the jump.
Interestingly, when Bo and Luke came back, they had them paired up with their opposites. Bo with Vance, and Luke with Coy.
Lol. I like how with Bo an Luke gone that Coy an Vance automatically are targets to Boss Hogg an Roscoe. 😂
I remember as a kid going through withdrawal when I saw this episode the first time.
Geez, Uncle Jesse. They just got there and you're already sending them out for tractor parts? At least let them take a leak and unpack!
John and Tom recommended the actors who played Coy and Vance Bryon Cherry and Christopher Mayor. They did that before they walked out so they wouldn't leave the producers with noone in their place.
It's like Bo and Luke switched clothes.
There's a line/scene where uncle Jesse and Daisy talking about now that bo and Luke are gone it looks like the general lee is going to be used as a grocery getter. But I never saw that part again in the reruns.
Granted I was born in 1995, a few Coy and Vance episodes were some of my favorites when I was younger. Wish they were included in the reunion movies.
The day the ratings dropped so bad!!! As I heard. I tried to give Coy and Vance a chance, but they just looked like clones to Bo and Luke. Well, I should say, it's not their fault the ratings dropped by the way. They just filled in to keep the show going and also it wasn't there fault too that John and Tom walked out. I am glad Bo and Luke came back though. They had an idea about keeping Coy and Vance along with Bo and luke, but much of a smaller role though, until they thought FOUR Dukes couldn't work at all. The episode, Welcome Back Bo and Luke, it was also the one Coy and Vance departed and they were never seen again. Big disappointment from fans and including myself. Besides, the producers and/or creators should have went with a different direction with Coy and Vance.
So, five cousins (there was an episode with yet another cousin named Jed, I think) . Jesse must have had a lot of brothers and sisters.
And another one with Luke's brother Jud
Some fine acting lol. Bizarro Bo and Luke.
When you order Duke boys on Temu.....
Or Grinder.
Order nothing go to a store..
The recast with Coy was good the problem is the arrogance of Warner Brothers for working the cast to death and not wanting to pay them because when the original cast members returned they should have kept Coy and Vance to give the show more depth with new and improved storylines.
I wasn't around in these days so I'm just gonna put it the way my uncle who was did! Sure people didn't like Coy and Vance.But he said after their 1 season run he said he was sure that a Coy and Vance spinoff would've been successful.
@:47 Coy obviously hadn't mastered the Bo Duke hood slide. He spent more time and energy scuffing the hood of that car with his boots than if he had simply walked around the front of it.
Always wondered what union scabs look like. Now I know.
I was confused. I thought Bo and Luke were on probation and couldn't leave town
What kind of car did coy and Vance have
You can literally hear the ratings falling...
My sister lived in Los Angeles in the early 1990s, and the guy who played Coy was a friend of a friend of hers. This was several years after the show had ended, and he was working at a Red Lobster trying to make ends meet. Apparently, his prize possession was a Dukes of Hazzard lunchbox with his own face on it.
Damn. You go from being a Duke Boy to working at Red Lobster. Hell of a guy. God bless him.
good morning
One time my niece called the house saying "Uncle Bobby, The Dukes of Hazzard are on." A minute later, she'd say "aw nuts, it's got Coy and Vance".
It's not their fault that the ratings tanked!
I remember the start of this season like yesterday and it has not gotten better with time. This is what caused the show to sink.
Jumped the shark and never really got back on track after that.
the day the dukes of hazard jumped the shark
i always wondered what happened to that old blue Plymouth Fury back in season 1 Luke blew it up put it in a junkyard Coy and Vance found it restored it and then jumped it now in Season 5
no they didnt.
Blue 75 fury was a 4 door this is a 73/74 satellite Sebring...what daisys car was off and on.
It would've been fun to see Bo,Luke, Coy,Vance from the Beginning because it would've been more Exciting with all 4 of them on the Show getting into trouble with each other
I wish they could have given them their own identity instead of trying to copy Bo and Luke...i mean, even dressed and looked like them...i wonder what happened to the cousins after the real Duke Boys came back?
I think one of the best ever jumps on Dukes.
Yeah! LOL Absolutely crazy jump and landing and unforgettable. That’s why I had to look up this video today lol. 👍🏻
@@joeseymour4073Same 😂👍
Just depressing.
Now that's a nice kitty cat
Back when this show aired, I had a 69 roadrunner, orange with white stripes, 383, 4 spd, after I would get done watching an episode I would got out and burn the tires grabbing gears, it was fun as hell, I lived in a small town where everybody knew everyone's business, never got into trouble except one time I got drunk opened up the headers and started hot rodding around , someone called the law, I ended up out running the cop car, it was cool but I did get caught later that night neighbor turned me in, but town so small it was just a matter of time, car had good reputation, but I didn't, but it was sure fun.
I remember my brother and I turned off the show and never got back into it again, even after they brought Bo and Luke back.
When I first saw this episode I thought WTF...then after a few episodes in, I started to like them, and hated to see them go
Same! I was getting used to them when they left.
Same here, but they had to bring Bo and Luke back because the ratings dropped like a rock after they left.
Amazing what cars could handle back then. 100 feet in the air, not a scratch. Tuffer then a trophy truck.
Lol not true you realize they totaled the car on almost every jump? They had over 300 chargers throughout the show
@@zxcvbnmaw1 Ya, that was being sarcastic. Very sarcastic, but thank you for correcting me anyway. Lol.
If I had only painted my dads 68 galaxy orange it probably might have survived when I jumped it duke style. But it was only white and ended up looking like one of Roscoe’s cars
Here comes Doctor Home, cousin of House, he's got a bad ankle so he well be using a walking stick, and since he lost his luggage, he will be wearing House's clothes too...
My science teacher is friends with the guy who played Vance
Ted barba broke is back doing this jump
Tenia 5 años iya meacuerdo qe los miraba
Everybody is cousins nobody is brothers or sisters everybody's cousins and their uncle.
I don't understand. As part of their parole agreement, Bo and Luke were not allowed to leave Hazzard County. But now we're told they've gone to race on the NASCAR circuit. Does Hazzard County have a whole bunch of racetracks for them to drive on so they don't violate the terms of their parole?
I guess they weren't allowed to go into certain counties, like chickasaw county. but atlanta I guess they can
like the second episode Daisys Song, they went to atlanta, but they cant go into chickasaw, or osage
NASCAR is a big sporting event, with lots of powerful financial backers. Maybe Bo and Luke's sponsors pulled some strings with their parole officer....
Strictly speaking, they weren't allowed to leave the county without Boss Hogg's permission. If, for some reason (i.e. there was something in it for him) he gave them permission to leave Hazzard, then they could do so.
And no Posi-Traction? They're definitely not related!
How high was that car, maybe 25 feet! Stunt guys earned their pay on that show.
Byron Cherry wasn't the same, after Christopher Mayer died in 2011.
it’s like Luke with bo shirt and bo with Luke’s shirt
actually like these guys. they should have run with all 4 duke boys for a while would have made things real fun for Boss and Roscoe
What's up with Daisey's voice?
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I liked Byron Cherry and Christopher Mayer, and thought they did the best they could with what they were given. That said, the fans might have taken it better had Coy and Vance not been such blatant copies of Bo and Luke. If they had different traits and personalities they might have been more successful.
Coy and Vance should have helped Bo and Luke in their final episode or make it a 2 parter to wrap things up. Then sometime in Season 6 or 7 have them turn heel working for Boss Hogg in an episode or 2.
What sense that would've made, for them to turn heel, they're Dukes, and family. Kind of glad, that it wasn't all 4 of them working together, just have them be their own duos, glad it was kept like it was.
spencer money. Plus they had been pushed aside for Bo and Luke
@@michaelradtke4801 producers weren't stupid to try that or think that.
Walks on the hood with boots on for no reason @ 0:48.
Well this was the moment the show jumped the shark.
I mean really, Bo and Luke gone and two look-alikes step in?
And when Bo and Luke were back Coy and Vance didn't even have send off, not even a "let's have them work together" moment.
When Bo and Luke returned they should have had a Episode with a Boss Hog Scheme so big that all 4 had to deal with it. before Coy and Vance left. that would have been nice.
@@Astraldragon1 Could have been a two parter.
As a kid I turned the channel & never watched the show again. 🤷♂️
Dam daisy
They drove a Plymouth Satellite, faster than the speed of light! " B-52s"
The car must have been a leftover extra from when Daisy had a yellow one before hers went off the cliff and she got the Jeep instead.
Daisy has the hair of an angle.
icelineman yeah it's pretty acute
45 degrees I reckon
I-saucey-lese
They’re wearing Bo and Luke’s clothes but swapped shirts
bad directing he almost forgot to hug her,