@stephentherarabear anyone can after learning a few scales bro but if they don't understand the theory or what it is they are playing all the soul is lost and it's just another edge Lord playing phrygian scales because they know the shapes that's not the same as understanding.
@unohana Retsu djent is essentially progressive metal with fixation on the low end and driving grooves. The administration of polymeters, and precision required by a whole band to keep time while using different time signatures is a feat in itself.
NiceTacos Listen to progressive metal then listen to technical death metal, technical death metal is a combination of prog and death metal. It's as simple as that, so why would you do a Vs between those two genres?
Zeke Larsen exactly, sounds like total shit. Let’s have an entire song of just pre breakdown stuttery filler notes and chords. No actual melody or anything appealing music wise just noise. Fuckin trash
1. 2. 3. Killswitch Engage -When Darkness Falls 0:22 4. Killswitch Engage -The End Of A Heartache 0:37 5. Periphery -The Gods Must Be Crazy 0:46 6. Megadeth -Ashes Of Your Mouth 1:02 7. Papa Roach -Blood Brothers 1:02 8. 9. DragonForce -Through The Fire And Flames 1:22 10. Meshuggah -Bleed 1:31 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. Cilice -Psychotic Windwarp 1:47 17. Steve Vai -For The Love Of God 1:49 18. Decapitated -Spheres Of Madness (shred) 1:58 18. Heathen -Currents (djent) 1:58
Gonna have to go with djent on this one. I can appreciate some good shredding but djent just scratches that metal itch so much better for me. Plus that riff starting at about 0:27 is sick as fuck.
As a 69 year old guitar playing dude with arthritic hands all I gotta say is it is a JOY to watch and listen to you play. One of these days I will have to find a video of you actually playing in a band setting for one entire song....
I get ya dude, the sound of djent gives me a feel like ima bout to head on good killing spree, while shreding just gives me the feel of being a badass in general... Idk but thats just me.
+Robert Harris Were all the riffs from this from real songs or just a few? I noticed the tremelo @ 1:24 is from a Dragonforce song, "Through the fire and flames" I think.
+? Huckfed No, the one at @1:51 was just from For the Love of God. The pre-verse riff from Through the Fire and Flames was also definitely in the shred part too.
Born Of Osiris is the biggest "djent+shred" band (aka progressive metal). A few others: -Rings of Saturn -Veil Of Maya (newest album) -Chelsea Grin (newest album) -Within The Ruins -After The Burial
***** Sometimes something really simple just rips, and imo that one did. But when a song is only made up of shit like that, like Emmure for example, thn its shit.
Richard William Kirkpatrick-Thorne Meh, to each their own. Djent is fucking beautiful and less brain dead leaving room for shredding down the line when it comes time to shred.
Gabriel Brouwer no I actually just got into guitar and would love to learn the song in the future no need to bash me for not knowing the name of a song..
I've gotta go with the style that brought me into knowing I liked Metal, Shred. Actually, DragonForce in particular through Guitar Hero. Yep, IMO Shred wins.
I hate it when people say shredding has "no feeling." These people assume just because it is fast that that's the only thing the guitarist cares about. Just because the guitar solos don't sound like a Nirvana song down doesn't mean it lacks feeling, you probably just don't like it. Go listen to Per Nilsson, Jeff Loomis, Paul Wardingham, Christian Muenzner, Angel Vivaldi, and/or Tosin Abasi. All of them are very technical but have superb phrasing. Why? Because they know how to make speed sound good. Also, I personally opine that both are good, but together are great.
As I grow older, I realize I'm not a big fan of shred. I love the fact that it takes so much skill and practice to do, but its just not heavy enough for me. Also, even before I started playing guitar, I was always a huge fan of music that had killer technical riffs, and kick ass solos. Shred is a really cool concept, and can sometimes be really cool to listen to, but the majority of it isnt for me. (Lol, I know no one cares, I just felt like expressing my opinion)
skypjuh Because djent is generally a lot more difficult then it's stereotypes lead people to believe. In fact most of the time there is no distinction between shred and djent because most good bands use them both.
Ben anonnimous I was just kidding lol but that doesn't diminish the fact that when it comes to a rythmic approach for short licks you might aswell just turn up your bass...I think in alot of situations it would actually sound better
Anthony Gonsalves Just started getting a little into Djent and all memes aside I think it sounds pretty dope, shredding just comes off as generic too often.
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How to Djent:
Step 1: Tune your instrument down.
Step 2: Learn morse code.
Step 3: Profit?
Lmao, seems like it
Vegetsu101 00000100001111000011100110110011
Vegetsu101 Do I get extra credit for already knowing Morse code?
Aldi Rinaldy binary
Vegetsu101 lmfao
How to become a DJENT guitarist:
1) Buy a 9 string guitar
2)Only play 1 string.
I love this comment. Freaking hilarious but so true.
@stephentherarabear so in my first couple of months, I can play Bleed or The Price Is Wrong perfectly note for note from start to finish?
@stephentherarabear anyone can after learning a few scales bro but if they don't understand the theory or what it is they are playing all the soul is lost and it's just another edge Lord playing phrygian scales because they know the shapes that's not the same as understanding.
Thanks bro!
Dude you nailed it.
Good ole Djared and Jashred battlin it out
shit
pretty good comment for a piece of shit
GHLinkinmanuT I'm going to report your comment because your profile pic is shit
cobra emperor 107 stfu
I'm Bored why thank you !
Djent - Rhythm Guitar
Shred - Lead Guitar
I was just pressed to bee your 500th like😁
Thanks bro and also Djent is a Power Chords. 😁
I would listen to that band
basically yes
And Dimebag is…?
Why not.....Shrent?
Why not shred on one guitar, djent on an other with bass strings and only blast beat on drum kit ?
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Djred?
Why not shred on bass and djent on guitar cuz that would be interesting
drop Q sweep picking
good thinking ;)
This is why two guitarists are needed in a metal band
Superfuzz Junky
not if you are Dimebag Darrel
kev ctulu not everyone is a god
System of a Down though?
Not if you are Yngwie Malmsteen in the band or steve vai in Whitesnake.
Actually 4. Djentist, Rhythm, Lead, Bass
Djenting is a bass skill. Shreding is a guitar skill. Each can boost your exp while using an 8 string guitar.
@unohana Retsu djent is essentially progressive metal with fixation on the low end and driving grooves. The administration of polymeters, and precision required by a whole band to keep time while using different time signatures is a feat in itself.
@@fatalfngrz6831 not so much into djent but completely agree with what you said. Cool sound whether into it or not. Grooves.
Sorry, very late to convo.
What if you decide to Shred with a Bass though?
Papounator then you get joey demaio
What a Djentlemen..
The djent riff at 1:13 has such a sick groove!
shut up
@@Neightlive Triggered boi.
@@Neightlive WTF?
@@Neightlive BOI👏
Only here for that part.
So djent is what happens when a bass player picks up a guitar?
Jacob Geiger absolutely!
no, it's when they get together like at the end of the video.
so funny
That is ILLEGAL!
Lemmy wants to know your location
1:57 is the best part hands down. We need a full length version of this
1:23 dragon force with more speed
Through fire and flames
1:36 bleed with less speed
if you get it right it's actually not that hard to do
Thing to take away:
Both = Good
Together = Great
+Suk Dufai Together sounds like Born Of Osiris.
+o3ix Shrent? Djed? Idk about all of the genres!!!
exactly
agreef
agreed*
the djent riff at 1:14 is so SICK
Doom (2016) vs Doom (1993) soundtracks in a nutshell.
slashescape preach
Doom (2016) was fucking awesome
So true! We should get a Mick Gordon/Jared Dines collab for Doom Eternal!
@@derekdillard9916 More like Andrew Hulshult who did an amazing remake of the classic 1993 soundtrack. As in: ruclips.net/video/AGK1dr-Ql0w/видео.html
Omg why is no one talking about the first shred riff at 0:13, that alone won shred for me
kreten debil Yo what's the name of it tho?
Brotha Gabe yeah im wondering also, its fucking epic, but its probably just a riff he wrote
Blues pentatonic; standard fare for most seasoned guitarists with a proclivity for rock.
yeah, its really awesome :D
Yeah.. I am wondering about it's name.. but more.. I am wondering about tvoje jméno. xd
Love this series idea! Tech Death Vs. Prog would be a good one!!
I think shred won this battle but I prefer Djent in songs as opposed to solos haha.
Dickeyfighter7861 i agree with everything you just said
Dickeyfighter7861 Tech Death vs Grindcore sounds better
Tech death is prog
-____-just stop. You know they are not the same that's why there's two separate names for them. Don't be that guy.
NiceTacos Listen to progressive metal then listen to technical death metal, technical death metal is a combination of prog and death metal. It's as simple as that, so why would you do a Vs between those two genres?
Djent sounds like the start of a great breakdown.
Zeke i feel like djent is basically just a breakdown
Zeke Larsen exactly, sounds like total shit. Let’s have an entire song of just pre breakdown stuttery filler notes and chords. No actual melody or anything appealing music wise just noise. Fuckin trash
@@TheFapFactory Meshuggah or TesseracT?
DaroriDerEinzige definitely Meshuggah
@@TheFapFactory Nah it sounds alright, and I like both. Sometimes aggressive sounds like that are good. Take your toxic attitude elsewhere.
the shreds were so good! but everytime djent came back on i was like ooooh shit that feels nice
i mean jared's "but does it djent" is literally that
Well Djent is actually really technical. Some would say that Djent is a sub-genre of Shred.
sim H sammmemeeeeeeee
sameeeee
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. Nice and dirty just like I like it! #Djent
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3. Killswitch Engage -When Darkness Falls 0:22
4. Killswitch Engage -The End Of A Heartache 0:37
5. Periphery -The Gods Must Be Crazy 0:46
6. Megadeth -Ashes Of Your Mouth 1:02
7. Papa Roach -Blood Brothers 1:02
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9. DragonForce -Through The Fire And Flames 1:22
10. Meshuggah -Bleed 1:31
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16. Cilice -Psychotic Windwarp 1:47
17. Steve Vai -For The Love Of God 1:49
18. Decapitated -Spheres Of Madness (shred) 1:58
18. Heathen -Currents (djent) 1:58
I didnt hear any When Darkness Falls in there lol
BawalYonMaster I think it’s 0:28, sounds like the chorus part of the song
When you play the track in minute 2:01 its sounds like that melody
anyone know whats at0:48?
Информативно👍
JARED FOR PRESIDJENT!
Djared*
Oh yeah!
I support this.
Melefono DjAred*
make America djent again
1:23 dragon force anyone?
Through the Fire and Flames! .... Thank you Guitar Hero Childhood!!! : )
Darude-Sandstorm
dragonborn comes
1:14 sounds like it could be from disturbed
you never played guitar hero 3, have you?
Both together in the end. that's the shit!
I agree that was awesome
Linnet's Covers Human Abstract
Levente Udud I was wondering why I recognized that ending.
Levente Udud what song is it? I am looking them up and they're really good!
Human abstract rips shit up
Gonna have to go with djent on this one. I can appreciate some good shredding but djent just scratches that metal itch so much better for me. Plus that riff starting at about 0:27 is sick as fuck.
the real winner was when the djent and the shred came together, that was glorious.
haha! this is awesome! They sound great together! SHRENT!
just mix it all together and call it saladcore
Zac Staylon look up rings of saturn
Jared is the J in Djent!
You are lightning... Hahahah!
AndrogynousJack Djared
AndrogynousJack Djared Djines is a djentleman
DARED JINES
He's also the J is SHRED
Did I hear a bit of Through The Fire And Flames with the shredding at about 1:25? I love both BTW, but I prefer shredding SLIGHTLY more.
can we have a full song based on the riff at 0:23
1:58 Rings of Saturn
T D since when is rings of saturn deathcore
T D embryonic anomaly still wasn't really deathcore
T D and metalcore is something waaaay different from their newer stuff
Nigga calling RoS metalcore hahahaggagaga
Aliencoooooore
Whew! That Djent/Shred combo at the end was smoking! Plus you just played some Steve Vai…..Sweet!
As a 69 year old guitar playing dude with arthritic hands all I gotta say is it is a JOY to watch and listen to you play. One of these days I will have to find a video of you actually playing in a band setting for one entire song....
That For the Love of God interlude
KingofRock943 I almost burst out laughing xD
KingofRock943 so glad im not the only one who caught that
stonedome93 Same here
I was trying to remember what that was haha. Cheers for the reminder. More of a satch fanatic, but still enjoy me some Vai. :)
KingofRock943 so troll
Djent + Shred = Meshuggah
and I'm loving it
Gojira, Opeth, Devin Townsend
Gabriel Rodriguez no.
It sounded like Nintendo-core :D
That's actually a Born of Osiris song.
Jared the only dual you've won is with yourself :D ;)
I've literally never thought of that!
duel*
actually the shred guy is Joey Ramone.
i personally like djent more, it gives me more of a DOOM vibe, and I'm a sucker for DOOM
I get ya dude, the sound of djent gives me a feel like ima bout to head on good killing spree, while shreding just gives me the feel of being a badass in general... Idk but thats just me.
Funny you say thAt cuz doom was mettalica and pantera digitized
Kono dio da my fellow weeb
the stutter that happens with the djent RAILS me to the edge of my seat in that game
Nah, Djent just sounds like Limp Bizkit Nu Metal trash
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD Jared keep posting videos like this
For the Love of God @1:51.
That was pretty cool how you threw that in there.
Wat song is that
+Gonzalo Chairez It is one of the most notable/popular songs written by Steve Vai.
+Robert Harris Were all the riffs from this from real songs or just a few? I noticed the tremelo @ 1:24 is from a Dragonforce song, "Through the fire and flames" I think.
+? Huckfed No, the one at @1:51 was just from For the Love of God. The pre-verse riff from Through the Fire and Flames was also definitely in the shred part too.
That was awesome!!
basically the whole argument is symphony of destruction vs holy wars
Djent -> adrenaline pumping
Shred -> skillful art
Lost my shit at the dragonforce portion lol
Haze Haberdasher same
Haze Haberdasher lol good, i thought i was hearing shit
For the Love of God I also lost it
Haze Haberdasher me too!
Haze Haberdasher God I'm glad I'm not the only one who caught that XD
2:00 LITERALLY BORN OF OSIRIS HAHAHA
Josh Moore yeah dude, absolutely
All of the, but it reminds me of machine a lot
Josh Moore 3
You call me?
The Human Abstract - Vela, Together We Await The Storm... common mates!
1:58
Sounds like the end of a Born of Osiris song
Jason Ross what tittle song called?
ChotBenjermin Vengeance. At least that's what i'm picking up on.
Dylan Lawson oh thanks sir
No problem man.
Sounds like the end solo of follow the signs.
Guitar players: you can't be successful with just 3 notes
Djent player: hold my beer
You can't be successful with only 3 notes.
Kurt Cobain: hold my heroin
As if djent players aren't guitarists
That djent was not tuned low enough
Jordan Dexter Do you even Djent?
***** Yep, and what about Brown note?
***** and I didn't crap myself...
It needs to be tuned to drop brown note #!!!
***** , If u are looking for 10+ strings try with harp ;d
How da fuq does your hair not mute the frets?
Pretty sure he records audio first and then shoots the video over it, just how it's done with music videos.
Jarod Walker Maybe so.
Have u ever seen KoRn live?
Yup, look at Head's and Munk's hair.
(KoRn rules!)
CrispyCakes
Yeah, KoRn rules!
What was that djent song at 0:23?
Pretty sure he made the riff himself just for this video. I agree it sounds sick.
Taichel Rosen shred vs djent by Jared dines at 23 seconds
Taichel Rosen adept -the toughest kids.it is like that.adepts another songs are good ,like thaat.
And when you combine them you have Animals as Leaders
Bro, 1:13 is very AAL-esque. Progressive Metal is absolutely amazing
The ending seemed very Scale The Summit.
@@Eutropios that riff reminded me of tooth and claw
yessssss
Djent and Shred at the same time at the end sounds like The Human Abstract
+GameGrumps Compilations didnt expect to see you here :D
what the fuck?
+Fan-ji what?
Shiny Sporks no I mean, I didn't expect him here either.
+Fan-ji oh okay XD
That.... At the end..... Is music like that even made?!?!?!? I need it in my life....
Rings of saturn... Enough said
Born Of Osiris as well
Born Of Osiris is the biggest "djent+shred" band (aka progressive metal).
A few others:
-Rings of Saturn
-Veil Of Maya (newest album)
-Chelsea Grin (newest album)
-Within The Ruins
-After The Burial
+Jølly Does Dreamtheatre count as progressive?
Is there any of that type of music with classic rock and classic metal-type vocals? The vocals are always kind of a killer for me in modern metal.
1:22 dragon force: throught fire and flames 😍😍
guitarhero.. aaaw damn.. now i wanna play it 😍😍😂
the*
Yeah i remember playing it on guitar hero. ahh the nostalgia
+Talion ikr 😍😍
I learned the actual drum part not too long ago.
MinecraftRocks97 - Gaming, Vlogs, And More! omg thats awesome
You gotta appreciate the amount of time and skill that goes into coming up with the licks for JD's videos!
0:45 that was actually such a sick breakdown.
Anyone know the original song? Or can I use it? xD
GetScaredGaming No, 1:31 was actually such a sick breakdown.
pablo osorio I agree. :45 was sounded shitty and I love djent. 1:31 is what I like to hear!
It was terrible
*****
Sometimes something really simple just rips, and imo that one did. But when a song is only made up of shit like that, like Emmure for example, thn its shit.
Shred is waaaaaay more satisfying.
Richard William Kirkpatrick-Thorne Meh, to each their own. Djent is fucking beautiful and less brain dead leaving room for shredding down the line when it comes time to shred.
0:31 I love this kind of djent it just has the feeling of hope for some reason
I feel ya dude... I've always been hooked to that type
1:12 Periphery vs DragonForce
I like both, and I like even more when they are mixed together.
Lol through the fire and flames at 1:23 how did nobody notice that
And Steve Vai's For the love of God at 1:51
And Steve Vai's For the love of God at 1:51
I think most people did
i did :o
Pretty sure he threw the herta pattern from Bleed by Meshuggah in there at one point as well
1:31 Wanna play rough? Say hello to my little friend.
What song is that
@@mr.boboman5701 It sounds like Bleed by Meshuggah but it's a bit different.
0:27 Once every few months I will always come back to this video and listen to this :')
Hey! Did the same too...
@@francislalhmuakliana766 thanks for the reminder, i still love it :D
@toupuxx_🇵🇰 thanks for the reminder bro
When darkness falls - Killswitch engage
@@apocalypse9665 Love that song! thanks for the reminder again
1:50 for the love god :v
Can't believe I had to scroll down this far to find someone finally recognize it. Youngsters have no respect for Vai, I tell ya.
Having a Vai-gasm now
What’s the song here
Davin Heil the song IS For the Love of God by Steve Vai. If you’re a guitar player and you don’t know that song you might as well quit.
Gabriel Brouwer no I actually just got into guitar and would love to learn the song in the future no need to bash me for not knowing the name of a song..
1:03 is the best part hands down.
Blood Brothers by Papa Roach
Shred all the way!
True
+Nake Basic Shred. Amen.
24 frets, 7-strings, 1 finger; djent.
The riff just after 0:22 is awesome. Is there any songs like that?
1:31 is where the real Duh-jent is at
shred wins
Nah...
hands down.
1:23 gotta love the attempt of through the fire and flames lol
He does not want to be demonetized.
Song at 0:13? I wanna learn that shit!
Shazam couldn't quite catch that :(
Anyone found out what it is ?
Philipp Schneider still no idea what the song is but i already learned that section by ear
The shred part at 0:37 sounds very familiar to Killswitchs The End of Heartache :3
***** and at 1:23 there is the Intro of Through Fire and Flames :D
***** I thought exactly the same, but from 0:27 on...
I've gotta go with the style that brought me into knowing I liked Metal, Shred. Actually, DragonForce in particular through Guitar Hero. Yep, IMO Shred wins.
0:23 My favourite part aside from the end.
I hate it when people say shredding has "no feeling." These people assume just because it is fast that that's the only thing the guitarist cares about. Just because the guitar solos don't sound like a Nirvana song down doesn't mean it lacks feeling, you probably just don't like it. Go listen to Per Nilsson, Jeff Loomis, Paul Wardingham, Christian Muenzner, Angel Vivaldi, and/or Tosin Abasi. All of them are very technical but have superb phrasing. Why? Because they know how to make speed sound good.
Also, I personally opine that both are good, but together are great.
I like how Jared knows how to make djent so good, i could call it Djentai
When he starts in 00:27 it sounds amazing
I remember downloading this video's audio to listen on my ipod back in HS man. I love this video so much! 💙
god what is that chord/tab at 0:27 it's beautiful
lol at the end they're like "we never speak of this again"
As I grow older, I realize I'm not a big fan of shred. I love the fact that it takes so much skill and practice to do, but its just not heavy enough for me. Also, even before I started playing guitar, I was always a huge fan of music that had killer technical riffs, and kick ass solos. Shred is a really cool concept, and can sometimes be really cool to listen to, but the majority of it isnt for me.
(Lol, I know no one cares, I just felt like expressing my opinion)
I'm the same. It's amazing to watch and I know people that shred but for me to listen to albums in this case I'd rather listen to Djent than Shred.
That mashup at the end... My sensibilities... Mu' bueno.
Why would Djent win, I mean...
you got a bassplayer for that stuff, right?
skypjuh Because djent is generally a lot more difficult then it's stereotypes lead people to believe. In fact most of the time there is no distinction between shred and djent because most good bands use them both.
Ben anonnimous After the burial is a great example of that
Ben anonnimous I was just kidding lol
but that doesn't diminish the fact that when it comes to a rythmic approach for short licks you might aswell just turn up your bass...I think in alot of situations it would actually sound better
skypjuh
Some bands do this. Others just have their guitars use extended range so that the guitars go down into the bass register, and do the opposite.
Ben anonnimous y..
0:27-0:37 Beautiful
RaydentkSIR I agree
Very Killswitch Engage sounding
RaydentkSIR agree 100%
LOL
Any of yall know of a song that's like this? It feels so good!
Djent is what happens when your bassist gets a hold of a guitar.
I like being both! Tosin, Tim Henson and Jason Richardson agree with me :D
Djent (I still cant get over that fkn name) is honestly enjoyable to play, during break downs. Shred, of course, is sick 24/7.
Anthony Gonsalves Just started getting a little into Djent and all memes aside I think it sounds pretty dope, shredding just comes off as generic too often.
Lucas M. I gotta say, if we're talking generic, nothing embodies the word like drop tuned palm mutes.
Raul Hardin You're triggered
I don't know if I'd agree with "generic", but maybe because it's been around for so long it's getting played out to a select amount of people.
HEy, you know what,you just gave a great idea for a time signature, although Meshuggah probably already used it
0:28 Kind of got a Killswitch Engage feel to it.
Steve Vai? Nobody heard the Steve Vai? I'm not giving away the song...
Nope. somebody heard it too. thank god
For the love of God, of course I heard it :)
1:50
Tender surrender?
yeah man
Is that solo from 0:15 from some specific song? It's awesome
"Life is like a box of Djent, ya never know what your gonna get"
0:23 killswitch engeged - when darkness falls
Flawless Victory of shred)
Thank you Professor Dines for the academic, illuminating comparison between these two highly evolved forms of modern musique
1:13 MAKE THIS A SONG!!!!!
Search up The Gods Must Be Crazy by Periphery
So I'm the only one who love djent riffs? So simplistic yet just so evil yum yum
I prefer shred, but elements of both combined would be epic
But... *DJENT ALWAYS WINS*
Ikr XD
i love both when it combined
especially when played by the orignal jared dines keep up the good work
Yous call dats shred? Höhöhö
Watchs me gives myself a reals cools blowsjobs
+Skwisgaar Skwigelf Yours shreds is metals.
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+Skwisgaar Skwigelf that is shredding for us mortals.
+Skwisgaar Skwigelf The Metalocylapse has begun.
Shred all day.
1:13 this needs to be a song owo
Right? I just sit here replaying that section over and over
1:59 needs to be a song !
Search up The Gods Must Be Crazy by Periphery. Sounds very similar. Hope you like it!
Does anyone know what the song at 1:03 is? It sounds really familiar to me.