Six Video Games That Belong in a Museum
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What video games would you put in a museum? Today I explore the inventory of The Cave and pick out my choices, or at least some of them. We're going to need more glass cabinets.
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What games would you choose? And how do you pronounce Giana, Giana or Giana?
Do keep in mind that I'm working with what I have in the inventory here as explained in the video, and there's so much more to display when I can afford another cabinet!
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Neil
Three words for ya "Final Fantasy Seven"
Neil! what are the dimensions of the mail order doom box? its an internet mystery!!! nice cabinet, relaxing video. I'd put Descent in there :D
For the sake of accuracy, it's pronounced "Giana".
@@whiskeyjuliet I can measure that when I'm in tomorrow
Grand Theft Auto (the first one) for being the start of what must be THE most successful and well-known game series to date. Also Damocles for being the game that to me really defined "open world" with a whole solar system to explore down to the level of buildings you can go inside.
I'd probably add a tape of Elite. And I guess Manic Miner.
I immediately thought Elite. Procedural open world "3d" surely influenced so many modern games and developers.
@@DigitalDiabloUK Elite sure is on top list.
I miss packaged games.
Even buying physical games today, there's nothing inside except the disc usually and even then it's another 10gb+ download after you put the disc in.
But old games filled with what I would have called tat back in the day were great, postcards, posters, fold out maps, instruction booklets as thick as a phone book sometimes... Those were the days.
Weird what you can get nostalgic over.
Command & conquer for me, what a game and what a series.
was thinking exactly the same thing..
A good pick, but Dune 2 is the original RTS that started the whole genre really. Warcraft was a fantasy themed copy of Dune 2. Without Dune 2, we wouldn’t have World of Warcraft.
I'd say Dune 2 as that set the groundwork for a lot of what C&C later brought.
Manic Miner is a glaring omission. It was THE game of 1983, and was one of the games that drove the home computer boom. Sold more than 5 million copies, one of the most influential games of all time. Great Giana Sisters may be rare, but this is the platform game that should be in the cabinet.
Good choice, there's a copy in the fake shop area for people to handle because it's not so rare that it needs to be locked away, but it would be right up there at the top of a cabinet of influential British games. I also have a cart of Miner2049 I can put next to it, the game that inspired Manic Miner.
Attic Attack and Knightlore after that were very important also during that era.
I would agree manic miner is absolutely essential from a UK point of view but it's all so personal and hard to categorise in your mind when creating I imagine. Manic miner is huge though a title so legendary it got released for the gba 😂
Mathew Smith's Manic Miner is a masterpiece of design for the 8 bit era. A genius of level design and the clever use of every byte from way back then.
Stroker was THE game of 1983.
Great choices. What I would add to the cabinet: 1- Pirates! for Commodore 64 2- Civilization for PC. I believe these two games are also corner stones of gaming.
Pirates! I need to get a nice display copy. I have a very sun bleached one here and a far more modern DVD collectors set
An entire shelf of early Sid Meier games would be wonderful
Think you may need another cabinet, so many to choose from. I would have a sid meirs shelf and an Elite shelf as well for 64/amiga. Microprose would be another, probably have to put there manuals on another shelf tho or seperate cabinet, dont make them like they used to.
One of the Infocom games is needed. Not only were always the benchmark against which all other adventure games were judged; but they originally came with amazing boxes and their legendary ‘feelies”. Maybe you can find a boxed version of ‘Suspended’ with its life sized mask box, map and robot pieces?
It has to be Elite for the BBC Micro. Firstly, the game was so revolutionary at the time it came out and a technical marvel and secondly it was British and highlights the huge influence British developers have had on the games industry.
I'd have Geoff Crammonds F1 GP.
Whilst not a game, it was quite revolutionary for game makers - Deluxe Paint.
Good call and I do have a copy of DP1
The Tengen version of Tetris for the NES. Mostly because there are people like myself (and who grew up playing the NES version that we all know) who before the Internet who assumed that only the NES version existed. Also because the history behind the games and the backstage shenanigans that led to the battle between Nintendo and Tengen over Tetris.
The soundtrack of Giana Sisters is just epic.
Check out the song by the same name from band Machinae Supremacy.
I trust Elite is on the list or you may have made a very powerless enemy 😉
I'm going to need more cabinets.... Elite is on display with the Beeb though if that helps
@@RMCRetroI am surprised at elite not making the list just due to its sheer importance to gaming and perceptions of what a game could do/be
Last Ninja for c64. Thats was yawdropping! Absolutely THE game that made me buy a c64.
Hi, I'd include Jetpac on the Specturm, it was a complete game changer, and other Ultimate Play the Game titles could also go in, Sabre Wulf, Atic Atac and Knightlore were genre defining as well.
I still remember buying and trying to play Ultima VII back in the day. My PC had a 40MB hard drive and Ultima VII required 21MB just for the game and another 300K per save. It also required a highly tuned boot disk as it required every square inch of conventional memory to start, plus Expanded Memory in a specific configuration. The amount of time I spent trying to clean out the fridge to make that fit on my hard drive and it still ran at like 2fps. But I loved it!
Were it up to me, I'd probably have put a Wing Commander game and Syndicate in the cabinet, but those both have very particular memories for me.
Lotus Turbo Challenge 2 on the Amiga. First time I ran it and the intro began, I was sold. I think it's the only game I've let the intro play all the way every time I ran it. It is burned to my eardrums now, I hear it in my sleep...
I would say my favourite all time game was Dungeon Master on my Amiga. For a touch of realism I would play in a slightly darkened room.
It's the only game that has made me get a system just so I could play one particular game.
Very nice curated list Neil. Can't argue with any of it. I can see that cabinet growiing... and growing... and growing
J k greyes 3d monster maze first game I ever purchased, legendary amongst ZX81 users - still play it today on my original kit built ZX81
I would be inclined to include Sim City & Elite, but they'd have to go in a second cabinet as I cannot fault your choices
I miss the extras you used to get from software developers. Especially owners manuals.
Super selection, nicely done.😊
Serpent Isle is amazing. From the opening scene when the avatar wakes up on the beach to the sound of seagulls. Just a fantastic game. But yeah you had to seriously optimise your DOS boot config to get it running!
I love that task. It'd be so cool to be part of that.
I will NEED to get to Stroud to see your museum if I ever manage to get "across the pond" to the UK.
These are all great picks for that display. Ultima VII especially I appreciate. Love that game so much that it's the only remaining boxed DOS game I have. Pivotal turning point for open world RPG experiences, that molded things we would come to see in 3D games like the elder scrolls later on.
I had a big box version of "world class leaderboard golf" on the c64, I don't have it any more sadly, but the box was absolutely glass cabinet gorgeous, the game was great too
I had it on Atari ST and just thought it was beautiful. Never stopped playing it.
My personal history shelves would have;
Doom: First PC game I ever bought.
Theme Park: Second game I bought but first PC game I played while waiting for Doom that I ordered from my local game shop with Woolworths vouchers.
Mad professor Mariarti: Use to play this with my friend before I ever had a PC on his Acorn.
Wipeout 2097: First game I bought that I had to upgrade for. Bought a graphics accelerator counting out all my coins I saved up till the shop owner got fedup and let me have it before I started counting 2p coins on his counter to make up the last little bit.
Final Fantasy 8: The first FF game I ever played and the game that got me into stories in game and in general.
It really looks amazing :) I guess I would have put a magazine in there with demo disk or demo cd. As I could not afford to buy full games, I bought these magazines. So I often just played demos at one point in time.
Quake, Half-Life, Age of Empires, Diablo, Warcraft 2 and Command & Conquer should be in a showcase right next to it.
I would have found a spot for Lemmings somewhere in there or maybe the Incredible Machine for its physics.
An unusual submission but 3d Starstrike on the CPC was brilliant. Great vector graphics, fast and very playable. One of the first real 3d games on a home micro. Oh and Elite too
Still have my OG copy of full Doom, yes i was one of those who paid for the full version in the box. The box, manual and four floppy disks live framed on the wall. Have so many enjoyable memories playing Doom back in 1993/94!
Excellent first choice, Neil. I remember playing it on a friend’s computer (I know not what type) when I was young. It was amazing!
I really miss the days of mum Mum and Dad buying me Speccy and later Amiga games from shops like Bits n Bytes here in Liverpool ❤
You were bought games? My parents thought I was doing homework and learning coding on my Spectrum lol. Piracy and my paper round enabled me to build a huge collection of games. Thankfully I still have most of them today. Luckily by the time I acquired an Amiga 500 I was in full time work and could afford boxed games now and then too.
@@raggersragnarsson6255 oh only bought a few, Spitfire, Skool Daze, Trapdoor etc, had a tonne of pirates speccy and Amiga games. Swapping games was a huge part of my playtime in school 🤣
@@raggersragnarsson6255 wish I still had my games, what I'd give to go through them again, would be wonderful 🥰
@@commentingpausedtoprotectus yes swops and copying were the regular thing back then. Even a few of my school teachers swopped Speccy games with us as pupils. C60 tapes full of games. It was all part of it. If you had a few pounds you could get budget a Mastertronic game or something along those lines, or save for a special buy of a good full price game too. Great times.
My suggestions of games to be included are street fighter 2 , mortal kombat ,super Mario bros 1 and Tetris .
Such a nice museum, you built there.
Two of my childhood PC classics were Jazz Jackrabbit and Extreme Pinball.
Really liked those back then even tho neither one may be the greatest fan favorite.
MaNiC MiNeR. Should be at the top encased in gold. No competition.
"once EA get their hands on a series, things tend to go down hill" truer words were never spoken. I'm still salty about Dungeon Keeper
Sid Meiers games needs some space I think, Sim City, Pirates! etc. I would also say Secret of Monkey Island is/was an epic game from that era. The Lotus games. Too many to choose from.. As a suggestion, I would also maybe add a cabinet that showcases the modern games that has been developed for these classic computers? The Planet X trilogy, Attack of the PETSCII robots are those I'm familiar with, but I am sure there are some other candidates for that as well so it's not just from the 8-bit guy... :)
I know you have it, so I definitely think 3D Monster maze deserves its place in such a hallowed space.
Oh yes, you could easily fit a ZX80 on the shelf with it too
@@RMCRetro or even a zx81 with 16k ram...
Great to see the classic games preserved. I wish I could find someone in my area to restore an Amiga 500 I have to working order.
Will need a vector based game such as Battlezone, Tempest, or Star wars since that was a small part of the growth of arcade games
We have all three of those arcades working and playable downstairs in the Arcade Archive museum
I loved that brief window in the early 80s when everyone was making vector games. I was 10 or so. The sit-down versions of Tailgunner and Star Trek were personal faves.
Another world, Dune, Sim city, Out run, Monkey island, Rick dangerous... Yeah nostalgia oriented
Cheers for that. Really interesting.
Absolutely agree with King's Quest. It may not have been the first, but it was the best up till then and was what truly kick started point and click games/text parser games.
I think for me I would have included Zork and Tetris. Both massively influential in so many ways.
Great video!
Definitely agree on Ultima VII, though my nostalgia may be even stronger for Ultima VI.
I would put in the base of the cabinet a moisture absorption pod i dont remember what the name is but we used them in ever game cabinet that we get shipped from Japan and Taiwan they are about 4 inches by 6 inches should and filled with a baking soda like substance. That would help pull the moisture out of the air in that glass cabinet.
Oh yes, like a big silicon bag that’s a neat idea. The room is also air conditioned to keep things at a fairly consistent temp and humidity
Thanks for your content! It's really amazing how far you've progressed!
Thank you!
That cab looks great, looking forward to visiting next weekend, can't wait to have a good look around and to bore my son silly with all my reminiscing! I had a pirate copy of the GG Sisters on my Amiga, loved that game 😂
For a followup cabinet you could have the shelves follow up your choices. Doom shelf could have Dark Forces for example. X-wing and Wing Commander would be good choices but I don't know if they would fit the Flight Simulator shelf very well.
Oh my, Prince of Persia was maybe the second or third video game I ever played when my mother got us a second hand PC in early post-com Czech Republic. That wheezy Intel 286 with a black and white CRT had to cost her a lot of savings but I'm grateful for it to this day. Lemmings were up there too.
I would choose Manic Miner or Super Mario Bros instead of The Great Giana Sisters. I would also add Tetris and Sonic the Hedgehog. Also, Elite and Space Invaders deserve to be there, as well as Minecraft as the most successful video game of all time
Hello @RMCRetro
My Six Games for the cabinet would be:
1. Elite - BBC Micro
2. Sim City 2000 - PC/Mac
3. Flashback - Amiga
4. Myst - Macintosh
5. RoboCop - ZX Spectrum
6. Doom - PC
The all Quest series “evolution” is kind of crazy for me. Kings Quest > Space Quest > Police Quest > Police Quest:
SWAT > Swat 3 > Swat 4 and now, in a way > Ready or Not. It can all kind of be traced to a game released in 1980 :)
I was after a copy of POP on the Amiga last week, it went for £173!.. So, definitely get that one in the cabinet!
Jeez are they that much! Wow
I would have zx spectrum games, jetpac, manic miner, JSW, elite
Akalabeth would be my top pick. It is a very representative example of very early, small scale, indie games.
As a personal favorite i would also add Qxyd because i really liked it when it came out and i met the developer at a convention where i bought the "Dongleware" book for it.
Oh to have an original Akalabeth to display, what a grail that would be
@@RMCRetro Fake it till you make it ;-)
Excellent choices for the 1st cabinet.
Ah, the pegs with early games in your local computer store (here in the US). Guess it was the same all over. I still have some from my first computer, a TRS-80 Model 1.
Planes were starting to have similar looking instrumentation as well, so the simple vector graphics leant a fun sense of authenticity.
I’d definitely put a Lucasarts point ‘n’ click in the display myself. I get why it might not be what you’re looking for though, but I’d argue that something like Maniac Mansion or Monkey Island perfected an entire genre of games.
I agree, also enjoyed Atlantis and Day of the Tentacle. The Talkies really elevated those games too
@@RMCRetro True. Played them all on the Amiga (except for DoTT as I don’t believe it was released for the Amiga), so the talkies always felt wrong somehow until enough years had gone by. Enjoy the talkies very much now and they’re all tremendously well voiced.
Execllent video. I completely agree regarding physical game packaging. For example, I missed out on ES3 Morrowind as the packaging didnt appeal to me and I wasnt an RPG gamer at the time. As a result the first rpg i played was Oblivion. Once I played that I was hooked on RPG's but times had changed and Morrowind seems dated and I struggle to get through it. I see it as a missed opportunity as the box did not tantilise me effectively.
When every other retro IP has been exploited and Hollywood gets round to making Giana Sisters: The Movie, Jo Brand and Mel Giedroyc need to call their agents asap. 15:00
Great video, wonderful memories of those days....
Tie fighter came with a short story book that was great and TFX came with a principles of flight manual that was very good.
Excellent choise! More monters are needed folks, we need to help him fix that!
Loved this trip back in time Neil, thank you! I would've included Elite
Thanks! Elite is a running request in the comments so that must feature in a future cabinet
balderdash, lemmings, snow bros, outrun, double dragon, streetfighter.
Just to add some genres of games that had a lot of attention at the time.
I remember being sad that my boxed Ultima VI didn't have the moonstone in there when I bought it brand new from store. But looking on eBay I can't find a single example with that 'feelie'. Maybe they weren't in the UK versions?
intellivision tron deadly discs i still play it now best game ever .
I would *absolutely* put Quake in there with Doom. It is every bit as important to videogame history as Doom, and arguably more so in terms of what it did for all kinds of software that came after it..
I would have put DOOM and Quake instead of DOOM 2 and DOOM 3.
Should have Elite and Civilization in there too.
Memories! In 1980 I started my first computer job. They didn't really know what to do with me as a newbie without experience, so they paired me with the 'micro computer thingy' that they didn't really know what to do with; an Apple II. My task - see if you can make it do anything useful. Visicalc and word-processing followed, and the games.
All great choices. I'd only suggest adding one of the Infocom adventure games if you have one with all the feelies they would come with. One of the Zorks would be an obvious choice, but HItchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy was my favorite.
A copy of the original Sim City probably deserves to be there
30 minute video perfect to listen to while spring cleaning my retro gaming space 👍
You missed a spot
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So many things you could list. I would deffo have something Infocom and Scott Adams together.
Shareware Doom absolutely goes in my cabinet, it was such a huge moment for little kid me, getting those 3.5disks in the mail and seeing what people were able to do with .wad files changed my entire outlook on gaming. I remember getting Doom next on my 32X, and seeing how much of a difference between the two versions changed the game opened my eyes to computing differences and changed my entire personality.
So cool to see the actual box they would send you if you registered Doom directly!
I distinctly remember seeing the Prince of Persia box on Store shelves as a child. So cool!
I remember me, you and Alex playing Doom on the network when we were stress-testing the network at Merlin 😂
For the next Cabinet, my suggestions:
Oregon Trail and related, Archon/Battle Chess/related, Civilization, and Descent and related.
Oregon Trail is most people’s first introduction to software in schools.
Chess is an ancient game so seeing modern variants would be interesting.
Civilization is such a force (and others like Sim City, etc.) that it needs a shelf.
And lastly Descent and other 3D games show an update/progression from the flight sim into a more modern 3d world.
My Museum entry would be Tyrian. First game I ever saved up money for and ordered, I don't think it was a popular game... never met another person that played it... but I played enough of that game to make up for several people. I wish Steam was around back then to see my hours played on that game because it was a LOT.
I know this wasn't part of the video, but I did a short on that Tank Assault behind you... and I am honored that I can say I did a video (well... short) on something in the legendary Retro Collective Museum.
Great video and great choices. I also would have put in the Infocom game Zork.
Solid!
Hard to take anything out.❤
Love that a flight sim got in there! I knew Neil would choose one though!
One game I would've added, would've been Impossible Mission on the Commodore 64. When that voice came out of that thing it made your hair stand on end. Great days. Great days.
Those Prince of Persia game boxes look amazing and defo worth displaying ……very nice idea this …..if it was me i would have filled a shelf up with the old imagine games of the early 80s
Great to see the reference to the Digital Antiquarian. I would imagine that the vast majority of folks who enjoy this great video would find some articles of interest on that site.
Maybe have one shelf as a rotating exhibit, a kind of video game version of Trafalgar Squares fourth plinth, with a different theme or display every few months suggested by attendees or viewers. I'd probably vote for the Spectrum version of Elite, complete with all the goodies (novella, keyboard overlay, etc) plus the torturous lens-lock device 👍👍👍.
Man, i need to visit this museum. Looks awesome.
Falcon 4.0, with the massive manual, you need to add that! That one is classic and amazing.
A slightly younger game than ones shown here but Tomb Raider. It was hugely popular, spawned sequels and movies, the property is still going too. I still have my angular box for the PC version though the actual disk is lost, maybe I left it in the CDROM drive of my old 486.
And it certainly inspired Prince of Persia 3D
Lara croft also was just named as the most important video game character ever by a non gaming community which shows her fame even still
Nice selection and video! As for suggestions, an Infocom game with the original elaborate packaging (before they settled on uniform packaging for all releases) would be great.
Wing Commander, WC2, X-Com (UFO), X-Com Terror from the Deep, Master of Orion. Definately ELITE for DOS and also BBC Micro, which funny enough was the first machine I played it on while visiting my cousin in Wales in the summer of 1986. I had an apple IIe and a TI-99/4a, got my first PC at home around 1989,a 386 25Mhz I think. I remember buying Elite in a black box with the gold emblem and the Firebird red logo. So many games, so many boxes and floppies gone to landfil before I knew better :( Neil, as always your videos are thought provoking and raise my nostalgia meter to 1000% keep up the good work always.
It's definitely a great set of games in the cabinet. I hope to peek at it one day soon. Perhaps it would have nice to have a 7th game, an Amiga game! "7-wonders of the retro world". Either Dungeon Master or Turrican, but I get that you've already got an RPG and two platformers. Actually I guess what's also missing genre-wise is a shoot 'em up like R-Type, and racing games (but you already have a sim, so fair enough).
Very nice. I never played Ultima but spent a lot of time with MS Flight Sim (at least the later versions in the '90s). Prince of Persia was also a fun time on the Apple II.
Elite, Dungeon Master, Tetris, Uncharted 2, F1 GP (Geoff Crammond).
There are many more I could mention, but I thought it would best to just stick to five.
sorry if you already covered this, but the really good history and reason you have shared in this vid, perhaps a qrlink to this video can be added to the shelf?
great vid as always, thanks Neil
Pretty solid list within these constraints!