Damn! Should be Kh-38! Should be Kh-38! Beside of cries, how many fighter with all bomb we see and this is safe version of that instead of get burst off by sweat K/D, WR player and return to hangar
Thats about the meta I do with Grom2s now. x6 Grom 2, x2 R-77, x2 R-73. Take off, fly right till youre close to youre own friendly base or hear RWR missile launch warning, ripple off 3 Groms to one base, 3 to another, dive and turn left to meet up with your team. They dont have a Mach limit so you should be dropping them around M 1.15-1.23. Theyll reach the bases usually well before the end of the match and you could net 2-3 kills for the match too.
Its gps guided (does not track moving targets on lock on then) and sight stabilization doesn't work past 20km, u would be lucky to click on a tank at 30km let alone 120
A projectile optimized for long-range, efficient flight without much maneuvering, vs a projectile that is specifically designed to turn and accelerate as fast as possible. This is like comparing a paper airplane to a dart. The paper airplane obviously can fly for longer.
Grom 1 is the same as grom2 (glide bombs) The diferece is that the grom 1 is a rocket assited glide bomb (like the agm130 and the PGM 500/2000). Althought many people consider that the moment a bomb gets propulsion it should called a missile
@@foster6515 U can already do that with F15s. Seen squads of 4 completely shut down games in 4 min and no one aside from them had any fun It just requires a bit more brain power to work
@@guvyygvuhh298You can’t. At least not when you’re fighting against fucking Pantsir. USSR can freely do this why any other nation has to deal with Pantsir
"The Brimstone would be too strong if they were implemented with their full capability", meanwhile Gaijin adding a fire and forget, 60km range, rocket assisted guided bomb that can turn better than the jet the Brimstones are mounted on.
Dude u have no idea what u are talking about. Acrive radar brimstones find and track their own target thru smoke and foliage with no input from u. These are gps bombs, they do not track, lock and they cannot be steered at all after launch, once u set a point thats where its gonna land and there is nothing u can do about it. WASD 20m in any direction and now that 120km glide "bomb" missiles u
You could send off one salvo, RTB, select a new target, launch your second salvo, and be RTB before your first salvo hits. I don't see how Gaijin can't know this is broken AF.
1 dimensional bots will get stomped because they just sit in 1 spot the entire game. I see so many crying about how it ruins air rb. Those bombs take a while to reach the target by the time it reaches its destination, the bases will already be destroyed
@@taryhunter5584 I’ve been a top tier sim player for the past year. Every now and then I’ll pop in Air RB to see how it is. I mostly play top tier Red Side and I can tell you, it has been extremely frustrating trying to do multi role either because red team is outnumbered and have to focus more on killing air targets or the enemy team just base bombs and end the matches quickly. The SU-34 levels that playing field in sim. Blue Team still has the advantage simply because those planes are more popular and have the best avionics/ easiest to fly. If you think the Fullback will be the most brown in sim, you should check out the Strike Eagle. It carries enough bombs to hit all the bases in 1 go.
The only nation that could get proper long range SAMs is russia bcz they actually made and still use self contained SPAAs. No, patriot is not one of them since it needs a truck for the missiles, one for the radar, one for the power, one for the antenna and another for command. And no u cannot jam all of that on a single truck like so many ppl want The snail rly backed themselves into a corner with how many long range cas options there are and with them being unable to add almost any viable AA at top tier
@@guvyygvuhh298 I guess you could add AI controlled Sam instalations like patriot. Its a bit unfortunate when one nations doctorine (of mobile ground based SAM acting as the primary anti air option) fits the "playstyle" of the game a lot more than other doctorines ( which mostly revolves around using aircraft as anti air).
@@jurajsintaj6644 Well america focused on air superiority and cas (and it shows especially at mid tier, every game is full of P47s) and russia on ground AA and a bit less cas And it top tier air rb america is clearly dominating and it will be for the foreseeable future
i remember in the past, after destroying all mini bases you was able to attack enemy airfield, and after destryoing airfield, you won the game. Is that still a thing? imagine full squad of groms coordinating themselves to speedrun the match xD
Its GPS guided like you say, If you're really lobbing these for 120 km away that's going to take a solid minute to get there, whoever you're aiming at unless they're brain dead or AFK will have likely moved for where the tiny bomb wont do anything.
You're forgetting that there are other players and they will overtake these and steal the base before you do... so this is a cool yet absolutely worthless tactic unless your team is 90% dead and they aren't attacking enemy base points. This is only possible if, majority of the enemy team and your team is dead, and its a 1v1, 1v2 scenario. You can takeoff, bomb bases, land, j-out, re-enter the battle, repeat to win by reducing points through bases. But other then that its a very limited way to play.
Doesn't matter. It is risk free and effort free. Zombers will abuse this weapon again and again and again and again and again, and they will get results some of the time. And some of the time is good enough when the effort and risk you put in is zero.
Only actual use i could think of off in GRB is to just troll people by selecting random points on map where usually people hang around and then spam them just to get some random hits or crits 3 minutes later... or a teamkill or two and get kicked from the lobby 🤷♂
the problem isnt with the weapons or vehicles that are added, the problem is that weve been playing the same busted game mode since 2012. Even back then the team death match, climb for 10 minutes to fight for 1 minute, no real objective matches were crap but at least they kind of made sense, air power with no coherent objective, just furball, hurts the game so much.
su-34의 가장 큰 문제는 kh-38이 6발이나 달린다는 점이죠... 대체 30km짜리 초음속 FNF 미사일을 주면서 왜 20km 겨우 나오는 아음속 fnf 브림스톤은 절대 안된다는 건지 이해가 안가요 그리고 댓글에 단지 움직이기만 하면 피해진다는 바보들이 많은데... 잘 움직이지 않는 대공이나 저격수들을 제거하기 매우 좋은 물건인데 저건...
I hope they have atleast one sam site near the base after this update that only targets cruise missiles just to make it fair the ground crew at the base has to rearm the sam missile site after it runs out of ammo
What I’m interested in is if CAS mains will continue to whine about every SAM that could kill them before when they had multiple bombs and AGMs that could outrange most SAMs?
I would like to see a full pre-made team in air rb doing the romote base bombing, with one plane for each minibase, and then all the rest of the bombs targeted at the airfeild. After the bombs have been lauched to turn the other way and run away from the enemy team as long as you can, then all the bombs hit the mini bases, the airfeild becomes a target, and all the bombs you previousley lauched hit just as it comes up and you win the game in under 6 minutes.
I dont think, that Grom is OP, frankly, its just good weapon. Will be extremely good in ASB, but thats why we need long range AA and even bigger maps, even bigger then Denmark, which I think, is one of the best EC maps in game now
It’d break Gaijin’s economy for air. Most base targets are going to be in range of them literally as soon as you’re airborne. Sure they take forever to get there, but you can land and rearm multiple times without ever getting in the danger zone of enemy missiles. Spamming them in sim would be free RP and SL, and a worse problem than zombers ever got to be.
@@JAGD-v2s kinda controversial opinion, but imo if you are playing a country with no nuclear weapons stationed in it (sweden or japan) then you shouldnt be able to launch nukes.
@@Chase92488 That's crazy lmao, but since Gaijin fancies adding all these concept soviet tanks they might as well add the saab 36, and like, everything else from the nuclear program
Bruh this will literally guarantee whoever ripples these off first will get a base, gaijin needs to add some short ranged defenses to bases to give a chance of intercepting these.
*this is REMOVED from Su-34 due to reasons
*놀랍게도 Su-34 탑재 무장에서 빠져버렸습니다
reasons: someone cried too much
@@phantom4E2reasons (more specific): maybe Russia shouldn’t have cruise missiles yet actually just a thought
Damn! Should be Kh-38! Should be Kh-38!
Beside of cries, how many fighter with all bomb we see and this is safe version of that instead of get burst off by sweat K/D, WR player and return to hangar
Good
@@sturmgeschutze3070cry baby, cry
Adding a way to basically remote-work your way to bombing bases in War Thunder is such a gaijin move
It's probably just borked tbh
After remote working plane kills, this is expected.
we got work-from-home bomb before gta6
To be fair, they're slow as f
gaijin should give us the option to lunch ICBM instead of flying in with a jet .
then it should be like 3k or 3.5k sp
Na 300 seems fair
@@WOOOOOOO11111but if you play with light tank cost goes to 150 it’s more fair for light tank players yk
New ARB meta gonna be to takeoff with Grom1’s then rtb for a full R-77 load out to actually play lol
Tbh that meta does not sound too bad
Thats about the meta I do with Grom2s now. x6 Grom 2, x2 R-77, x2 R-73. Take off, fly right till youre close to youre own friendly base or hear RWR missile launch warning, ripple off 3 Groms to one base, 3 to another, dive and turn left to meet up with your team. They dont have a Mach limit so you should be dropping them around M 1.15-1.23. Theyll reach the bases usually well before the end of the match and you could net 2-3 kills for the match too.
We got 60km spawn camping missile before GTA6🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
Bro Is RangeMaxxing
120km IS WILD
What is this
Isn't 1 joke enough???
Subway Surfers family guy tiktok ahh comment
Gaijin, just put the fries in the bag bro😭
@@dulguunjargal1199ur gonna have to live with it at some point cause sadly thats the next generation
Its gps guided (does not track moving targets on lock on then) and sight stabilization doesn't work past 20km, u would be lucky to click on a tank at 30km let alone 120
you are beyond saving by the looks of your brainrotted comment
However it is GPS guided, so one can just literally move 200 yards and they would be safe.
Well good luck seeing it coming
Damn, and people are really freaking out about this when at top tier you almost are always moving?
@@sya_7489 If you get killed by a GPS weapon that isn't dropped point blank you need to uninstall, literally just press WASD
Most maps are to smal for that, now your truck is exposed to Tank fire.
Ah yes my favourite base the movable minibase
Making base bombing work-from-home is deadass crazy 💀💀
“everybody is going remote-work, even Su-34, and you are still working at the factory” - Average asian parent
Exactly what the game needed. There definitely wasnt enough long rang cas weapons
It already was in the game with the jh7
@@thethyphoon. No this is new
@@thethyphoon. half the range and worse speed
bro it's GPS guided. just move 10 m to the side and ur good
@@melc311 the new "just spawn SPAA"
CAS is a clownshow
"oh look someone's flying an RC plane"
"wait, why's it diving towards us"
Can't wait to overtake groms on my way to a base in the f111
4 minutes is such a silly long time
One is 13.3 and the other 8.7. Take a guess which is which
@@guvyygvuhh298 Bro, I think you’re mixing up the F-111 and the F-117
@@yangcheong2667 shidd ._.
@@guvyygvuhh298 better correct ur comment while u have the chance
@@guvyygvuhh298 still 11.7 so half-right
I like how the guided bomb is apparently faster and holds energy better than literal missiles.
A projectile optimized for long-range, efficient flight without much maneuvering, vs a projectile that is specifically designed to turn and accelerate as fast as possible. This is like comparing a paper airplane to a dart. The paper airplane obviously can fly for longer.
Grom 1 is the same as grom2 (glide bombs) The diferece is that the grom 1 is a rocket assited glide bomb (like the agm130 and the PGM 500/2000). Althought many people consider that the moment a bomb gets propulsion it should called a missile
ganijin asked to fix CAS spam problem: hmmm... how about... more CAS?
with longer range weapons
It's not "CLOSE" Air support if it's being done from that distance. So yeah, technically they did fix it by giving long range air support. XD
This is not meant for CAS, and its highly unreliable to get tank kills with it
And this CAS has thermobarbic bomb on snapshot.
@@klad2860 A lot of spaas will stand still, so this could still be used against the one thing preventing them from getting close with big bombs
WTF is this grass airfield in the middle of the desert?
Yes
Whats grass?
Oasis.
They went wild with irigation
Some rich dude built the airfield for his flashy private jet, probably
Zenturion having impeccable music taste as always ❤
i hit 40km shots with the Grom 2s and 95km base shots with the Grom 1
how many grom 1s for one base?
6/5?@@shawarmaboii5271
@@shawarmaboii5271 6
Yeah i can believe it, that thing still had momentum and height on it before it needed to dive down on that base
Same technique as in the video?
Ridge Racer Type 4 OST goes hard.
so theoreticaly, if you haave enough of these planes in team and good coordination, you can just put game on a ~6min timer? wow
@@foster6515 U can already do that with F15s. Seen squads of 4 completely shut down games in 4 min and no one aside from them had any fun
It just requires a bit more brain power to work
@@guvyygvuhh298 This requires 0 brainpower to work
@@guvyygvuhh298 and this is precisely why i don't touch ground anymore.
@@guvyygvuhh298You can’t. At least not when you’re fighting against fucking Pantsir. USSR can freely do this why any other nation has to deal with Pantsir
"The Brimstone would be too strong if they were implemented with their full capability", meanwhile Gaijin adding a fire and forget, 60km range, rocket assisted guided bomb that can turn better than the jet the Brimstones are mounted on.
The brimstones can target something that moves. Groms can't do anything if anyone presses W, A, S, or D
autonomous radar-tracking missiles are not the same as GPS guided missiles intended for static targets
Dude u have no idea what u are talking about. Acrive radar brimstones find and track their own target thru smoke and foliage with no input from u. These are gps bombs, they do not track, lock and they cannot be steered at all after launch, once u set a point thats where its gonna land and there is nothing u can do about it. WASD 20m in any direction and now that 120km glide "bomb" missiles u
@@Modeus_they can just love them at capture points and spawn like cluster bombs from their own airfield. It's absolutely ridiculous
@@lars7747 WSAD gaslighters are purposely ignoring the reality.
Adding cruise missiles to heavy cold war bombers would make them somewhat useful for base bombing in air rb
You could send off one salvo, RTB, select a new target, launch your second salvo, and be RTB before your first salvo hits. I don't see how Gaijin can't know this is broken AF.
there is no realistic ground battle anymore
bro these are pretty useless for hitting tanks that move, especially at range
@@2goober4u I guess you could use em to bomb points and commonly used locationS?
But at that point, its just a faster firing sturmtiger.
air sim event farming just got a new level of afking lol
This is what they were testing when they gave the russian attack drone those 50kg glide bombs
1 dimensional bots will get stomped because they just sit in 1 spot the entire game. I see so many crying about how it ruins air rb. Those bombs take a while to reach the target by the time it reaches its destination, the bases will already be destroyed
ever play sim? there are bases you litterally bomb the whole game without run out of health
@@taryhunter5584 I’ve been a top tier sim player for the past year. Every now and then I’ll pop in Air RB to see how it is.
I mostly play top tier Red Side and I can tell you, it has been extremely frustrating trying to do multi role either because red team is outnumbered and have to focus more on killing air targets or the enemy team just base bombs and end the matches quickly. The SU-34 levels that playing field in sim. Blue Team still has the advantage simply because those planes are more popular and have the best avionics/ easiest to fly.
If you think the Fullback will be the most brown in sim, you should check out the Strike Eagle. It carries enough bombs to hit all the bases in 1 go.
Phoenix Spam 2: Base Bombing Boogaloo
At least u wont kill jets or tank with this thing
@@morticlan2850 you can spamming on capture point
bug report: nerf grom 1 and 2. update: buffed grom 1 and 2
theyve deleted grom 1, cry harder and theyll delete grom 2 as well
Update : removed Grom 1
well come back AGM missile from runway meta
This game is getting more and more toxic every patch. I love it
You wouldnt play warthunder if u didnt liked to suffer
well the devs decided to remove this from su-34 since its too op (just like what happened to r-73 on mig-29 before)
Honestly, kinda hilarious how the a-10 gets 4x 9Ms now, while the su25sm3 gets 2x R-73 at 12.3.
Talk about bias
@@VIT-ey8wo "at least you get cheat missile~"
There needs to be a new wave of modern AA added to the game to counter all these modern aircraft and weapon systems.
The only nation that could get proper long range SAMs is russia bcz they actually made and still use self contained SPAAs. No, patriot is not one of them since it needs a truck for the missiles, one for the radar, one for the power, one for the antenna and another for command. And no u cannot jam all of that on a single truck like so many ppl want
The snail rly backed themselves into a corner with how many long range cas options there are and with them being unable to add almost any viable AA at top tier
@@guvyygvuhh298 I guess you could add AI controlled Sam instalations like patriot.
Its a bit unfortunate when one nations doctorine (of mobile ground based SAM acting as the primary anti air option) fits the "playstyle" of the game a lot more than other doctorines ( which mostly revolves around using aircraft as anti air).
@@jurajsintaj6644 Well america focused on air superiority and cas (and it shows especially at mid tier, every game is full of P47s) and russia on ground AA and a bit less cas
And it top tier air rb america is clearly dominating and it will be for the foreseeable future
i remember in the past, after destroying all mini bases you was able to attack enemy airfield, and after destryoing airfield, you won the game. Is that still a thing? imagine full squad of groms coordinating themselves to speedrun the match xD
"Just move, lol"
t. someone standing outside with a gas lamp misleading ships
peak top tier bomber gameplay in 2024
[REMOVED ARMAMENT]
I am reminded how we think that the A10 is a close air support aircraft when this mf bomb exists
Song choice was immaculate my dude
Remember guys, only Russia can doin this, if it came to NATO things it will be too OP and need nerf lol.
Ridge Racer 🗣️ He Gives Me What I Need 🗣️🔥🔥🔥
Its GPS guided like you say, If you're really lobbing these for 120 km away that's going to take a solid minute to get there, whoever you're aiming at unless they're brain dead or AFK will have likely moved for where the tiny bomb wont do anything.
You're forgetting that there are other players and they will overtake these and steal the base before you do... so this is a cool yet absolutely worthless tactic unless your team is 90% dead and they aren't attacking enemy base points. This is only possible if, majority of the enemy team and your team is dead, and its a 1v1, 1v2 scenario. You can takeoff, bomb bases, land, j-out, re-enter the battle, repeat to win by reducing points through bases. But other then that its a very limited way to play.
Exactly but 90% of the comments cant understand that
Doesn't matter. It is risk free and effort free. Zombers will abuse this weapon again and again and again and again and again, and they will get results some of the time. And some of the time is good enough when the effort and risk you put in is zero.
do not forget the simulator battles
@@Apollo_1641bro who cares, this hurts nobody lmao. war thunder players more mad about other players grinding fast than about the state of the game
This looks familiar, Grom 1s launched like MQ-99 in ace combat 7... I know what to do tonight boys.
Only actual use i could think of off in GRB is to just troll people by selecting random points on map where usually people hang around and then spam them just to get some random hits or crits 3 minutes later... or a teamkill or two and get kicked from the lobby 🤷♂
Now get a friend in a jet with bombs and see who gets to bomb the base first.
Its all fun and games until the enemy bombs 360 no scope you
I don't think warthunder is ready for this.
the problem isnt with the weapons or vehicles that are added, the problem is that weve been playing the same busted game mode since 2012. Even back then the team death match, climb for 10 minutes to fight for 1 minute, no real objective matches were crap but at least they kind of made sense, air power with no coherent objective, just furball, hurts the game so much.
su-34의 가장 큰 문제는 kh-38이 6발이나 달린다는 점이죠...
대체 30km짜리 초음속 FNF 미사일을 주면서
왜 20km 겨우 나오는 아음속 fnf 브림스톤은 절대 안된다는 건지 이해가 안가요
그리고 댓글에 단지 움직이기만 하면 피해진다는 바보들이 많은데...
잘 움직이지 않는 대공이나 저격수들을 제거하기 매우 좋은 물건인데 저건...
또한 브림스톤 화력이 그렇게 좋은것도 아닌데 말이죠....
imagine adding a missile with that range and you can control it mid flight without line of sight 😃
Good lucky to know if it is a fakour 90 or a grom 1 going to your direction 😂
When is the update + pack sales dropping?
All we need now is KAB-500, 1000, 1500 and KAB-3000.
Storm Shadow where?
Too capable for gaijin perhaps?
@@kon8459 nah dog, clearly single Storm Shadow could destory every USSR tank in map size area including one in hanger
We can't have that
@@SRDPS2 we must have, possibly the gaijin powers nerf it, or put very high number of points to get it in the match
Sorry but we're never getting that if brimstones are coming in like this bruh
If we add NATO weapons with their actual capabilities it makes Russia look bad and gaijin will get punished for that as stated in Russian law
I hope they have atleast one sam site near the base after this update that only targets cruise missiles just to make it fair the ground crew at the base has to rearm the sam missile site after it runs out of ammo
7:45에는 한국어로 자막에 '공대지'미사일 이라고 되어있네요
welp, i won't play top tier anymore it seems 💀
What I’m interested in is if CAS mains will continue to whine about every SAM that could kill them before when they had multiple bombs and AGMs that could outrange most SAMs?
RIDGE RACER TYPE 4 MENTIONED
ridge racer mentioned
Right, if i ever come back to this game im never touching top tier ground or air, again
Надеюсь следующий шаг в игре это реализация ракеты "орешник" в ядерном исполнении
wait, so can you counterfire? For example, can you install an iron dome on your f16 and scan for the Grom 1 cruise missiles ?
When is the albertross fast attack boat, Exocet Anti ship missle?
We are truly cooked
The only way to win is walk away.
Japan still has guided missiles only on 13.0
good music choices
Remember when warthunder was a game which required skill and the most modern vehicles were Korean War era?
shut up
I would like to see a full pre-made team in air rb doing the romote base bombing, with one plane for each minibase, and then all the rest of the bombs targeted at the airfeild. After the bombs have been lauched to turn the other way and run away from the enemy team as long as you can, then all the bombs hit the mini bases, the airfeild becomes a target, and all the bombs you previousley lauched hit just as it comes up and you win the game in under 6 minutes.
They removed airfield bombing
su-34 will break simulator mode
I dont think, that Grom is OP, frankly, its just good weapon.
Will be extremely good in ASB, but thats why we need long range AA and even bigger maps, even bigger then Denmark, which I think, is one of the best EC maps in game now
That's why we should add icbm's, they're not op, just good
@@JAGD-v2s thats a bit too excessive, but even then, Russians will have the best one
It’d break Gaijin’s economy for air. Most base targets are going to be in range of them literally as soon as you’re airborne. Sure they take forever to get there, but you can land and rearm multiple times without ever getting in the danger zone of enemy missiles. Spamming them in sim would be free RP and SL, and a worse problem than zombers ever got to be.
@@JAGD-v2s kinda controversial opinion, but imo if you are playing a country with no nuclear weapons stationed in it (sweden or japan) then you shouldnt be able to launch nukes.
@@Chase92488 That's crazy lmao, but since Gaijin fancies adding all these concept soviet tanks they might as well add the saab 36, and like, everything else from the nuclear program
Would be completely fine if they added the AGM-158 for the f-16s
정말 대단합니다 선생 우라아아아!!
that vase bombing strategy is so cool
damn seems like Su34 my new favorite for grinding in sim battles
now add signal jammers as spaa
Hmmmm... Can the enemy catch up onto Grom 1 to shoot it down though?
Well if ur experienced with destroying bomb with bullets,i guess thats possible
@@morticlan2850 y e s
Warwolf 1 plot :
(Even thro it get removed)
Bruh this will literally guarantee whoever ripples these off first will get a base, gaijin needs to add some short ranged defenses to bases to give a chance of intercepting these.
Ridge Racer??
Insane.
I can already see the spam happening day one if the patch
can you do a video on cockpit functional rwrs now?
So.. what if you do this in an air sim game? Free event score farming unlocked
시작하자 마자 급상승하고 나서 지상 표적을 향해 난사 보급 받고 리스폰되는 미베에 발사 와
Is the BGM by any chance from Ridge Racer ? :o
Right but the Ohka Rocket is where we draw the line of what to add, thanks Gaijin
Crazy that it go 120km
쟤네는 Grom미사일 주면서
홍차한테는 브림스톤 너프시켜서 출시한다고 희망고문하고
미국한텐 팝아이는 고사하고 AGM-84E SLAM조차 안주면서
또또또 소련 쑥 재배기 가져오는거보면
미국이나 독일 유저가 점수 채우면 PAC-3 유저 사용 가능하게 해야함....
very cool feature to further destabilize, already destabilized top tier/jet tier
absolutely 'assive improvement /sarcasm
the pod does not stabilize after 20km lmao
120km go crazy
Im gonna go crazy on you if you don't stfu with these NPC ass comments
Correct me if im wrong but doesnt the SU-34 also get anti-ground radar? how does that work for GPS guidance?
anything to fk over ground units even more.
Do i get to lock and engage cruise missiles in defense of Estovakia?
Already seen on Hunter channel
Hey how do you get alot of golden eagles in the dev server
8:06 explain that censor zent. What’s going on here???
Typo
@@Zenturion7 ah. I see
Thats Just too op
이젠 공중 많이뽑는팀이 이길거 같음
Great now give the agm 154 JSOW
So we need Patriot ASAP