This week North Korean forces launch a major offensive on the Pusan Perimeter, attempting to break through before UN reinforcements including the first British ground troops, could further strengthen their forces. Meanwhile, General Douglas MacArthur's plans are facing challenges due to Korea's difficult terrain. Not a member yet? Why not join us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/TimeGhostHistory
Hi, I have a question for the Korean War, and it's about NATO. I'm sure we'll hear more of them in this series, given that they were established just a year before (1949). Specifically, I wanted to ask about the approach of NATO towards European colonies as it related to Article 5 protection. NATO, in 1949, defined its geographic sphere of responsibility as being within the North Atlantic area, including "the Algerian departments of France." By definition, this would exclude most European colonies in Asia, Africa, as they were outside the North Atlantic area. But what about colonial territories within the North Atlantic area? Were they afforded Article 5 protection? For example, would the British and French "possessions" in the Caribbean such as the Bahamas, Jamaica, Guadeloupe, St. Martinique, etc be afforded NATO defense (especially given that France considered many of these territories as part of Metropolitan France)? Or what about Spanish and French colonial territories in North Africa? I ask because it seems that for most of the 50s, many of the West European states joined NATO, not only to counter the Soviet threat, but to gain military support in propping up their colonial empires. One prominent example: in the 1950s, the French requested, and got extensive military support from the NATO alliance during the war in Algeria against the Front de Liberation Nationale (FLN) guerillas. It certainly seems that way.
@@TheKoreanWarbyIndyNeidell My So far I am enjoying your videos. My Father was a Soldier in the 9th Regiment/2nd Infantry Division. He got a free cruise ship ticket on a Liberty ship from Ft. Lewis to Pusan. I grew up on many accounts of his experiences in the war, which sometimes differ from the “official” history. I have a keen interest in the war due to his service and also because it is still The Forgotten War that was very intense and as summer turns to fall and then winter, it was a brutal experience due to the unusual cold that killed many, civilian and service members, on both sides. It is also one of the most significant events of the Cold War. Two suggestions. I kept waiting for you to tell when the 2ID arrived in Pusan, but in spite of mentioning the 9th Regiment, you never explained that the regiment was part of 2ID and that due to the division arriving in pieces and that they were initially attached to 24th Division until the rest of the division arrived . I suggest that any time a regiment is referred to, please say what division they belong to. It makes it easier to follow what is taking place. Also, I may have missed it in one of the earlier videos, but did you explain how Taiwan/ Republic of China, China, and the Communist Chinese takeover of China impacted the war? Unless I missed it, I’m a bit confused by your mentioning Taiwan in relation to the war in this video. Again, thanks for your excellent efforts on this history of the Korean War and keep up the good work. I look forward each week to the videos. Best wishes.
@@TheKoreanWarbyIndyNeidell 2:42 Differences in staff procedures?? Didn’t the US and Great Britain recently fight a war together and have British and American units often task organized together, fighting side by side? Did their procedures change between WW2 and Korea?
I used to watch the Great War and World War II with my late father, I'm sorry I can't watch this with him. He was actually born during the Korean War on October 21, 1952. Passed away far too young in February.
Thanks for this, my father was an officer in the 17 pounder anti tank battery with 27th Brigade,. my family really appreciate this. Thanks for making sure people do not forget this war. Interestingly my father's grandson is married to a Korean. So he has kept the link going with Korea in our family.
Back in the late eighties and early nineties I used to work with a great guy who served in the Royal Artillery in the Korean War. He only once talked about his time there but when he did it was obvious how much it had affected him. He remembered huge waves of N Korean and Chinese troops attacking with trumpets blaring and the British artillery and infantry pouring fire into them to stop them. He also told me of the intense cold and misery of the Korean winter. I will never forget the sacrifices he and all the other young men like your father made then. My own father at that time did his National Service and volunteered to go to Korea but instead he served with the Royal Scots Greys in Egypt and Libya. I am v proud of his service. But I am also glad he did not go to Korea for obvious reasons.
@@nigeh5326 thanks for this my father served in the Army for a long time even doing an exchange with the French to serve for short time in Vietnam! We are very proud of him but he did not talk about it much. It was only when I was joining the Army for a very short time that he told me.more about his early military experiences in war zones. But we were not aware that he was in the first batch of British troops to go to Korea.
It's really cool how quickly the "big" events of the war shake out. I do worry about the format losing steam after the second year, but it's very good so far
It's VERY doubtful that the Chinese will get involved, and if they do, I'm sure they wouldn't have the military skills to be much of a problem for the combined UN forces...
I was stationed at Fort Lewis with 1/23 Infantry (HHC and B Co). I learned a lot about the unit's history and these battles, but it's nice to see it recounted here. Thanks for telling it in such detail down to the unit for us to understand the scope of these battles. Terrific as always. We Serve.
It's all relative. For all the bluster, it really seems to be a pretty stable situation... it isn't some irradiated backwater deindustrialized post soviet dump, and I think the CCP understands the perilous nature of the US Navy.
It's somewhat startling to contemplate how those echoes of history from 70+ years ago could have a major impact on world events before long. I find it very hard to believe Xi Jinping is not going to do something about the 'Taiwan issue' before his reign ends, whenever that might be in the next 10 years or so, provided he doesn't fall from power sooner, because if the CCP doesn't act soon (so their thinking likely goes), the cost for taking Taiwan by force might be too great once the US gets its butt into gear and starts taking the Indo-Pacific theatre more seriously in terms of defense spending. Right at this moment though the US, Taiwan and their Asian allies and sympathisers (Japan, Korea, the Philippines) are more vulnerable than most people realise to what is a rapidly growing Chinese military force in the region, what with the continuous buildup in the South China Sea as just one example, as China looks increasingly more capable of invading Taiwan despite US opposition as the years go on. Time will tell, but I'm not too hopeful about the general situation and what a potential war between China and the US - even a limited one - could mean for the rest of the world.
I’m so glad I get to experience this series from the beginning, I missed the first 4 years of the WW2 series when they were coming out. Here’s to the next 3 years, everyone 🫡
This is getting old. Please find a more appropriate meme, that worked only for WW2. Though I guess it's weirdly appropriate, the Korean War already gets overshadowed by WW2 and forgotten, so of course a WW2 meme would steal the place of a Korean War meme.
16:57 actually Indy, it is not agreeable to me that you end this week already. But there is only so much time in one episode and I can't wait for next week!
Indy I’ve been watching you present videos since your WW1 days and appreciate the hard work you and others put in to bring us such high quality content. Thanks for all your hard work keep the videos coming 👍
Not necessarily. But probably by a few weeks ago. If the UN deployment had been slower, or they'd lost more men quicker, maybe things could have been different. It would always be a long shot though, like Barbarossa
I believe Indy mentioned a few videos ago. Had the DPK kept the initiative and focused rushing down the east coast instead of splitting up. The UN forces would have been Dunkirked. But I have to look this up.
I got the impression from this video that, if the KPA had concentrated its forces on taking Yongsan, they might've been able to create a new breakthrough and atleast threaten the whole Pusan perimeter. Though at this point they probably didn't have the manpower and reserves to collapse the perimeter.
With one very significant difference: if the British had had the US' experience and skill in amphibious assaults from 1945 at Gallipoli, the Turks would have been knocked out of the war in 1915.
The KPA attack mode mentioned at about 19:00 seems to me to be but an updated large scale version of the well known Zulu "Horns of the Buffalo" method?
Famously used in 216BC at the Battle of Cannae by Hannable to destroy a Roman army. The technique became the obsession of the Purussian and later German military where it became called something like Kettle Battle. Used with Tanks its misnamed Blitzkrige by English speaking commentators. I would imagine that Russians on the receiving end of the tactic adopted it into their training and passed it on to the North Koreans.
@@francesconicoletti2547 The Chinese PLA in the Civil War tended to probe for gaps in the lines of their Nationalist opponents, and then come in through one flank or even two, if available. Many KPA troops, often the best ones, had fought in the Chinese Communist forces in the late 1940s, though by September 1950 a lot of these veterans were casualties. Their tactics were similar.
Its a bit strange to talk about Main Battle Tanks (MBTs) in that context. While USA was using Medium M26,M4 and Light Tanks M24 in Korea. The M26 switched its classification during its Servicetime but was never a MBT. The only Tank in that Theater that could be called MBT was the Centurion of the british Forces. But Centurions werent present at that Time. (Came in December 1950) Even the M-46 Tank was just a "Medium Tank" and not a MBT. Still a great Show and i gave it a like and hope my Comment will also push the Algorythm.
@@MrNicoJac a MBT is a clear definition of a Tank that takes the Role or Several Tank Types and that made Heavy Tanks obsolet. Look it up, you can find the Definition of it in the Internet. Leopard 1 was a MBT,M60 was a MBT and the Soviet T-62 was a MBT. While even the T-54/55 was still only a Medium Tank.
@@TheLocomotionFan I've watched multiple videos about tank types over the years, and the transition from medium to mbt has always seemed Meh to me. Sounded like engine and armor technology improved to the point that a tank could be as fast as a medium while being as heavily armored as a heavy. A bit like battleships being armored, battle cruisers being fast, and then engine technology got better and fast battleships got (almost) as fast as battle cruisers. So I was hoping you could clear it up better than just stating the obvious (especially since Google these days seems hellbent on answering a different question than the one you asked it🙄😓)
@@MrNicoJac its not about the Armor but rather Firepower.MBTs made Heavy Tanks completely obsolete. They replaced Medium Tanks and Heavy Tanks at the same Time. For example T-62 replaced the T-10 and the T-54. or the M60 Replaced M103 and M46/47/48. Leopard 1 was a MBT and had basically like no Armor because the Guns were that potent at that Time that no Armor could stop them and People went for Mobility.
Halberstam wrote that Mac' had pretty much collapsed in despair as the situation fell apart. With the Inchon plan he pulled himself together and presented a plan that was daring and abandoned conventional wisdom but did work to american strengths to wit the navy and the lack of well trained troops for the NK's to throw at them without breaking the siege of pusan
Even more of an American strength was recent experience in long distance opposed amphibious landings - the only military in the world with that. They still had officers who had done it half a dozen times. Macarthur in his presentations could say "THIS we know how to do. And our enemy will not have learned how to deal with it".
This reminds me a lot of summer 1918 on the western front. Last chance for the germans while they still have initiative before the americans were there in numbers
Korea is a country of hills and mountains. I was there in the late 70s and even then there weren’t many major roads. The climate has harsh conditions in summer and winter. These were major impediments to offensive operations on both sides.
I have read that summer and winter are pretty unbearable, though spring and autumn can be pleasant. A relative visited Seoul last year in the summer. She said it wasn't bad but there was air conditioning indoors etc.
My uncle was killed during this week. Here is a slightly edited version of what is on the regimental web site: PFC David Alexander Morningstar died in the service of his country on Sunday, September 3rd, 1950 in South Korea. He was KIA by a mortar round (according to an eye witness) while on a reconnaissance mission. At the time of his death, David was 19 years of age. He was from Detroit, Michigan. David's Military Occupation Specialty was 4761-Infantry Reconnaissance Scout. Private First Class Morningstar was a member of the Intelligence and Reconnaissance Platoon, Regimental Headquarters, 35th Infantry Regiment, 25th Infantry Division.
In the late 90s I was in South Korea for a massive field training exercise between the US & ROK militaries. It was in the Pohang region, and one night while digging a fighting hole I unearthed lots of shrapel from an artillery shell that must have been from the fighting around the Pusan perimeter. It was at least that old.
I was in the US Army and my first duty station was in Seoul its interesting to learn how I came to be there by the actions of these people. In one of the offices there was a picture of sign that said "this is Uijeongbu" except is was crossed out and "was" was written in it place and the background there was just devastation and destroyed buildings.
Minor correction: It's "Inmin-gun," literally "People's Army" ("inmin" and "gukmin" are Sino-Korean words for "citizen" or "people" - "inmin" took on its socialist nuance after 1945 and is only used in an official context in the DPRK; as a general rule Koreans in the ROK and the diaspora do not use the term "inmin" anymore unless specifically in the context of Communism).
always good to see the 3d battle maps getting better edit for more detailed feedback: -day/night colour contrast still feels a little extreme when trying to keep track of the map details -a lot of the establishing shot stopped being important once forces started moving and I was only looking at one corner of the screen. I'm not sure if cropping, zooming or choosing a different camera angle would help - I'm aware of Tim Cain's Rule of Feedback - but I look forward to where this goes in the future
The objective is to win! They also seem to both be done out of desperation because their situation will only get worse, and both see a fair amount of initial success.
What a surprise, the Time Ghost Army officer of the week is me, Thomas A Dry, I assume chosen at random. My father was a WWII veteran and a Pearl Harbor survivor. He was a Navy aviation machinist mate on a Catalina PBY flying boat in the Pacific Theater who lived to be 100.
2:42 will be preempting here the arrival of the THIRD country providing combat troops for the war. The 10th Battalion Combat Team of the Philippine Expeditionary Forces to Korea lands in Pusan in Sept 19, 1950. Unlike the British, they are familiar with American procedures and doctrine, as most have been adapted by the Armed Forces of the Philippines themselves, and are also using American weapons and equipment in the first place. There were also many veterans from WW2, guerillas or as part of the Philippine Scouts, not to mention that some of the officers have even studied at West Point.
Any thoughts to excerpting first-person combat descriptions in this series, as you did in The Great War? Korea's war wasn't as big or as long as the two World Wars, so I thought the time demands wouldn't be as strong.
I hope in future video you talk about what happens to the South Koreans fighting, or being forced to fight, for the North when the UN forces turn the tide in the war.
Still a few weeks behind the front lines... hoping MacArthur goes away...sigh.
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I watched Indy say "This was the second world war" today. I can wait hearing him say "This was the Korean War". Which technically he wont be able to say anyway, because its still going on :)
I asked a question on the livestream yesterday that never got answered (unless it was while I was eating lunch and if so I apologize) so I figure it’s worth trying now. Has anyone on the timeghost team fought in any wars? Oh, and thank you all so much for what you do.
This week North Korean forces launch a major offensive on the Pusan Perimeter, attempting to break through before UN reinforcements including the first British ground troops, could further strengthen their forces. Meanwhile, General Douglas MacArthur's plans are facing challenges due to Korea's difficult terrain.
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Also, a bit of a reminder, France is still fighting in Vietnam, and they are losing.
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And the Iron Curtain has descended upon Europe.
Hi, I have a question for the Korean War, and it's about NATO. I'm sure we'll hear more of them in this series, given that they were established just a year before (1949).
Specifically, I wanted to ask about the approach of NATO towards European colonies as it related to Article 5 protection. NATO, in 1949, defined its geographic sphere of responsibility as being within the North Atlantic area, including "the Algerian departments of France." By definition, this would exclude most European colonies in Asia, Africa, as they were outside the North Atlantic area.
But what about colonial territories within the North Atlantic area? Were they afforded Article 5 protection? For example, would the British and French "possessions" in the Caribbean such as the Bahamas, Jamaica, Guadeloupe, St. Martinique, etc be afforded NATO defense (especially given that France considered many of these territories as part of Metropolitan France)? Or what about Spanish and French colonial territories in North Africa? I ask because it seems that for most of the 50s, many of the West European states joined NATO, not only to counter the Soviet threat, but to gain military support in propping up their colonial empires. One prominent example: in the 1950s, the French requested, and got extensive military support from the NATO alliance during the war in Algeria against the Front de Liberation Nationale (FLN) guerillas. It certainly seems that way.
@@phillipsmith4814when China was taken over by the Communists, they referred to it as the "Bamboo Curtain."
Damn really does feel like WWII just ended yesterday.
I see what you did there
@@ericfuchs123 lol
That was 5 years ago…
"I Hope that this time our boys will really be back for Christmas or Thanksgiving"
Too soon 😭
This week, we lose an Indy Neidell at WW2...
But we have another Indy for 3 more years!
Indy will still be on the WW2 channel, stay tuned for the rise of Hitler starting this Saturday on the WW2 channel!
@@TheKoreanWarbyIndyNeidell My
So far I am enjoying your videos. My Father was a Soldier in the 9th Regiment/2nd Infantry Division. He got a free cruise ship ticket on a Liberty ship from Ft. Lewis to Pusan. I grew up on many accounts of his experiences in the war, which sometimes differ from the “official” history. I have a keen interest in the war due to his service and also because it is still The Forgotten War that was very intense and as summer turns to fall and then winter, it was a brutal experience due to the unusual cold that killed many, civilian and service members, on both sides. It is also one of the most significant events of the Cold War.
Two suggestions.
I kept waiting for you to tell when the 2ID arrived in Pusan, but in spite of mentioning the 9th Regiment, you never explained that the regiment was part of 2ID and that due to the division arriving in pieces and that they were initially attached to 24th Division until the rest of the division arrived . I suggest that any time a regiment is referred to, please say what division they belong to. It makes it easier to follow what is taking place.
Also, I may have missed it in one of the earlier videos, but did you explain how Taiwan/ Republic of China, China, and the Communist Chinese takeover of China impacted the war? Unless I missed it, I’m a bit confused by your mentioning Taiwan in relation to the war in this video.
Again, thanks for your excellent efforts on this history of the Korean War and keep up the good work. I look forward each week to the videos.
Best wishes.
@@TheKoreanWarbyIndyNeidell
2:42 Differences in staff procedures?? Didn’t the US and Great Britain recently fight a war together and have British and American units often task organized together, fighting side by side? Did their procedures change between WW2 and Korea?
I have delayed watching the Korean War to Saturday AM, with my favorite dark roast coffee and my ferocious dachshund, Luke. Sundays are for Perun.
Then after Korea TG can cover both Vietnam wars… 29.5 years… week by flippin’ week baby :-)
Indy: “I hope it is agreeable to you that here I end the week!”
Me, sitting on the couch: *sigh* “It’s fine…”
@@andrewsoboeiro6979 69 likes nobody move
I used to watch the Great War and World War II with my late father, I'm sorry I can't watch this with him. He was actually born during the Korean War on October 21, 1952. Passed away far too young in February.
my condolences.
@@RobFeldkamp Thanks
Thanks for sharing that with us, thoughts and prayers from the team.
Sorry to read about your loss. May he rest in eternal peace.
@@TheKoreanWarbyIndyNeidell Thanks so much
The last time I was this early ... German troops were advancing on Verdun.
This time you have North Koreans!
Which war?
@@joelb8653 the Great One.
Your joke is as old as Verdun.
Why did it take you so long?
Thanks for this, my father was an officer in the 17 pounder anti tank battery with 27th Brigade,. my family really appreciate this. Thanks for making sure people do not forget this war. Interestingly my father's grandson is married to a Korean. So he has kept the link going with Korea in our family.
Back in the late eighties and early nineties I used to work with a great guy who served in the Royal Artillery in the Korean War.
He only once talked about his time there but when he did it was obvious how much it had affected him. He remembered huge waves of N Korean and Chinese troops attacking with trumpets blaring and the British artillery and infantry pouring fire into them to stop them. He also told me of the intense cold and misery of the Korean winter.
I will never forget the sacrifices he and all the other young men like your father made then.
My own father at that time did his National Service and volunteered to go to Korea but instead he served with the Royal Scots Greys in Egypt and Libya. I am v proud of his service.
But I am also glad he did not go to Korea for obvious reasons.
@@nigeh5326 thanks for this my father served in the Army for a long time even doing an exchange with the French to serve for short time in Vietnam! We are very proud of him but he did not talk about it much. It was only when I was joining the Army for a very short time that he told me.more about his early military experiences in war zones. But we were not aware that he was in the first batch of British troops to go to Korea.
I was in the 27th and don't remember your father at all. Are you sure he was there?
Thank you for sharing and thanks for watching.
@@TheOsfaniahi there as you do not know who my father is your statement does not make sense.
It is never agreeable to me when your episodes end, but such is life
It's really cool how quickly the "big" events of the war shake out. I do worry about the format losing steam after the second year, but it's very good so far
They have to draw the line somewhere, there is no real armistice
@@derrickthewhite1 So in that case, they should just keep doing weekly episodes until today's date. 😁
Congratulations on reaching 100K subs Korean War team!
Thank you!
EVEN HERE?
@@briish4615 dude wow! 🤣 Star Wars, alternate history, and now the Korean War!
@@indianajones4321 honestly it's impressive
@@briish4615 facts bro
Don't worry guys, this will be over by Christmas
It's VERY doubtful that the Chinese will get involved, and if they do, I'm sure they wouldn't have the military skills to be much of a problem for the combined UN forces...
@@michaelgreaves2375 they do get involved
How many times have we have heard that before?
@@michaelgreaves2375 It is so, so tempting to write spoilers...
Yawn....
I was stationed at Fort Lewis with 1/23 Infantry (HHC and B Co). I learned a lot about the unit's history and these battles, but it's nice to see it recounted here. Thanks for telling it in such detail down to the unit for us to understand the scope of these battles. Terrific as always. We Serve.
Great idea with the 3d topographic view, would be great if we can have more maps like that
Now that WW2 IRT is done, I can keep up with this channel.
We are done with the weekly coverage but not done with the WW2 channel! We have a new series starting this Saturday.
The North Koreans really just battle planned and pressed go 8:00
Really felt like the Britain declared war on Germany today...
Taiwan surely won't be an issue in the future.
It's all relative. For all the bluster, it really seems to be a pretty stable situation... it isn't some irradiated backwater deindustrialized post soviet dump, and I think the CCP understands the perilous nature of the US Navy.
@@420JackG As China surpasses the US it won't be.
Yeah could you imagine if it was still an issue over 70 years later? Such a thing is surely preposterous, obviously.
@@420JackG China is slowly making the US look like Japan in WW2 by comparison, so...
It's somewhat startling to contemplate how those echoes of history from 70+ years ago could have a major impact on world events before long. I find it very hard to believe Xi Jinping is not going to do something about the 'Taiwan issue' before his reign ends, whenever that might be in the next 10 years or so, provided he doesn't fall from power sooner, because if the CCP doesn't act soon (so their thinking likely goes), the cost for taking Taiwan by force might be too great once the US gets its butt into gear and starts taking the Indo-Pacific theatre more seriously in terms of defense spending. Right at this moment though the US, Taiwan and their Asian allies and sympathisers (Japan, Korea, the Philippines) are more vulnerable than most people realise to what is a rapidly growing Chinese military force in the region, what with the continuous buildup in the South China Sea as just one example, as China looks increasingly more capable of invading Taiwan despite US opposition as the years go on. Time will tell, but I'm not too hopeful about the general situation and what a potential war between China and the US - even a limited one - could mean for the rest of the world.
I’m so glad I get to experience this series from the beginning, I missed the first 4 years of the WW2 series when they were coming out. Here’s to the next 3 years, everyone 🫡
spoiler warning: it will get boring after the first year...
We also have a new series starting on the WW2 channel this Saturday! Thanks for watching.
The quality performance and perfectly timed inflection makes this man an absolute legend storyteller.
Great 3D-View, makes it easier to understand the topography of the battle!
9:00 This kind of mapping is so amazing, it's incredible! It's looking so damn awesome. Honestly never seen this before
It's very similar to the sort of 3D topographic animation that Kings and Generals use in their content regarding modern history,
Can we get an update on Steiner? How’s his offensive going ?
Even when humanity will settle the stars that joke will still be funny
This is getting old. Please find a more appropriate meme, that worked only for WW2. Though I guess it's weirdly appropriate, the Korean War already gets overshadowed by WW2 and forgotten, so of course a WW2 meme would steal the place of a Korean War meme.
What Steiner needs is cool 3d maps.
@@blede8649 Don’t worry, I’m sure old Ned Almond will give us a good meme soon.
He is searching for Berlin
16:57 actually Indy, it is not agreeable to me that you end this week already. But there is only so much time in one episode and I can't wait for next week!
I personally enjoy how you use aerial sectional charts as you explain moves and battles. For me, it adds a great enhancement.
Love this channel!
Thanks for watching!
Indy I’ve been watching you present videos since your WW1 days and appreciate the hard work you and others put in to bring us such high quality content.
Thanks for all your hard work keep the videos coming 👍
Crazy to imagine that the north koreans still have the initiative even after being outnumbered almist 2:1 and having no air superiority
Hi Indy
Awesome weekly episode.
Thanks for the video
I like this series...the Korean War was interesting.
In many ways, yes. More conventional than Vietnam though with many resemblances to it.
@@stevekaczynski3793 at times itresembled WWI, with static and positional warfare...at others infiltration and guerilla operations...
Thanks for watching!
The last time I was this early, the KPA was crossing the 38th Parallel
Incredible documentary series, thank you!
Thank you for watching!
High marks for the new graphics!
How do the 3D maps get better and better each week? Impressive improvement
Sounds like just another week in the Korean War. Thank you so much for covering it all.
Thanks for watching!
So this is firm proof that North Korea ambitions were doomed once Allied troops arrived
Not necessarily. But probably by a few weeks ago. If the UN deployment had been slower, or they'd lost more men quicker, maybe things could have been different. It would always be a long shot though, like Barbarossa
I believe Indy mentioned a few videos ago. Had the DPK kept the initiative and focused rushing down the east coast instead of splitting up. The UN forces would have been Dunkirked.
But I have to look this up.
I got the impression from this video that, if the KPA had concentrated its forces on taking Yongsan, they might've been able to create a new breakthrough and atleast threaten the whole Pusan perimeter.
Though at this point they probably didn't have the manpower and reserves to collapse the perimeter.
I very much enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up
You rock Indy…..
Excellent writing, thanks for your work.
Imagine fighting on hills in monsoon rains. Fighting a war no one expected or wants. Yet it’s as brutal as any battle in the pacific during ww2.
17:03 no, not agreed. Keep reporting!
great timing indy and crew keep it up
i m a long time subscriber since the great war ww2 and in the Korean war
We plan too, thanks for watching Carl!
0:40 Everything, everywhere, all at once... I see what you did there 😅
Need to get a playlist started for this
We have one but it's not public yet, although there are quite a few episodes now so it will be available soon!
That 3D map is just incredible.
Short video this week
That's ok, I'm really looking forward to the next 2 weeks.
This is a great series.
Thank you.
Great Work thanks
Great stuff Indy!
Crazy it’s already 11 weeks
Looks like MacArthur is about to go full-on Gallipoli
With one very significant difference: if the British had had the US' experience and skill in amphibious assaults from 1945 at Gallipoli, the Turks would have been knocked out of the war in 1915.
I've been watching Indy for nearly 100 years now...
Thank you for the lesson.
I just discovered this channel I didn’t know Indy had a Korean War channel
4:18 it sounds like you are trying to say M1 GARAND with tootsie rolls stuck in your teeth
Btw, those 3D maps are really dope.
Interesting as always. Thanks.
13:23
My favourite map from Wargame Red Dragon.
The harbour of Wonsan :D
Im glad we still got Indie every week. I was sad to see the WW2 coverage end and the departure from the desk.
Indy will still be frequently appearing on the WW2 channel, check out our new series this Saturday on the rise of Hitler!
Cheers to everyone who’s been watching since The Great War!
This episode felt so short!
I love these intros!
When Task Force Smith was launched, there was only only one pallet of armor piercing shells in theater. In Japan..
The KPA attack mode mentioned at about 19:00 seems to me to be but an updated large scale version of the well known Zulu "Horns of the Buffalo" method?
Double envelopment, basically. An ancient military tactic. The Zulus do not seem to have had any others.
Famously used in 216BC at the Battle of Cannae by Hannable to destroy a Roman army. The technique became the obsession of the Purussian and later German military where it became called something like Kettle Battle. Used with Tanks its misnamed Blitzkrige by English speaking commentators. I would imagine that Russians on the receiving end of the tactic adopted it into their training and passed it on to the North Koreans.
@@francesconicoletti2547 The Chinese PLA in the Civil War tended to probe for gaps in the lines of their Nationalist opponents, and then come in through one flank or even two, if available. Many KPA troops, often the best ones, had fought in the Chinese Communist forces in the late 1940s, though by September 1950 a lot of these veterans were casualties. Their tactics were similar.
Its a bit strange to talk about Main Battle Tanks (MBTs) in that context. While USA was using Medium M26,M4 and Light Tanks M24 in Korea. The M26 switched its classification during its Servicetime but was never a MBT. The only Tank in that Theater that could be called MBT was the Centurion of the british Forces. But Centurions werent present at that Time. (Came in December 1950) Even the M-46 Tank was just a "Medium Tank" and not a MBT.
Still a great Show and i gave it a like and hope my Comment will also push the Algorythm.
MBT is whatever your primary armor consists of.
What exactly denotes the line between medium tanks and main battle tanks? 🤔
@@MrNicoJac a MBT is a clear definition of a Tank that takes the Role or Several Tank Types and that made Heavy Tanks obsolet. Look it up, you can find the Definition of it in the Internet.
Leopard 1 was a MBT,M60 was a MBT and the Soviet T-62 was a MBT. While even the T-54/55 was still only a Medium Tank.
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I've watched multiple videos about tank types over the years, and the transition from medium to mbt has always seemed Meh to me.
Sounded like engine and armor technology improved to the point that a tank could be as fast as a medium while being as heavily armored as a heavy.
A bit like battleships being armored, battle cruisers being fast, and then engine technology got better and fast battleships got (almost) as fast as battle cruisers.
So I was hoping you could clear it up better than just stating the obvious (especially since Google these days seems hellbent on answering a different question than the one you asked it🙄😓)
@@MrNicoJac its not about the Armor but rather Firepower.MBTs made Heavy Tanks completely obsolete. They replaced Medium Tanks and Heavy Tanks at the same Time. For example T-62 replaced the T-10 and the T-54. or the M60 Replaced M103 and M46/47/48.
Leopard 1 was a MBT and had basically like no Armor because the Guns were that potent at that Time that no Armor could stop them and People went for Mobility.
The suspense of icheon is killing me!!!
Halberstam wrote that Mac' had pretty much collapsed in despair as the situation fell apart. With the Inchon plan he pulled himself together and presented a plan that was daring and abandoned conventional wisdom but did work to american strengths to wit the navy and the lack of well trained troops for the NK's to throw at them without breaking the siege of pusan
Even more of an American strength was recent experience in long distance opposed amphibious landings - the only military in the world with that. They still had officers who had done it half a dozen times. Macarthur in his presentations could say "THIS we know how to do. And our enemy will not have learned how to deal with it".
If these episodes were 45 minutes long, they'd be 15 minutes short. Cheers.
Thanks
Why so short... (checks actual video time -> 20 minutes) ... Oh. 😂 Great job Indy
Nice graphics.
This reminds me a lot of summer 1918 on the western front. Last chance for the germans while they still have initiative before the americans were there in numbers
Korea is a country of hills and mountains. I was there in the late 70s and even then there weren’t many major roads. The climate has harsh conditions in summer and winter. These were major impediments to offensive operations on both sides.
I have read that summer and winter are pretty unbearable, though spring and autumn can be pleasant. A relative visited Seoul last year in the summer. She said it wasn't bad but there was air conditioning indoors etc.
interesting piece on Taiwan there and how once again it ties back into the present time
The American-Chinese conflict over Taiwan is very interesting.
Mac....we need a plan other than that crazy one offered up !
Ooh cool new topo maps.
Just saw the end of WWII. I guess we're doing this. Let's GO! My dad was in the Korean War.
My uncle was killed during this week. Here is a slightly edited version of what is on the regimental web site: PFC David Alexander Morningstar died in the service of his country on Sunday, September 3rd, 1950 in South Korea. He was KIA by a mortar round (according to an eye witness) while on a reconnaissance mission. At the time of his death, David was 19 years of age. He was from Detroit, Michigan. David's Military Occupation Specialty was 4761-Infantry Reconnaissance Scout. Private First Class Morningstar was a member of the Intelligence and Reconnaissance Platoon, Regimental Headquarters, 35th Infantry Regiment, 25th Infantry Division.
Honestly, I don't know if I'll ever get used to these new ericofon intros.
In the late 90s I was in South Korea for a massive field training exercise between the US & ROK militaries. It was in the Pohang region, and one night while digging a fighting hole I unearthed lots of shrapel from an artillery shell that must have been from the fighting around the Pusan perimeter. It was at least that old.
Mousey dung is everywhere when the shit hits the fan
🚂 7:10 ALCO switching locomotive and a flatcar consist of tanks!
8:54 :o what a map!
I was in the US Army and my first duty station was in Seoul its interesting to learn how I came to be there by the actions of these people. In one of the offices there was a picture of sign that said "this is Uijeongbu" except is was crossed out and "was" was written in it place and the background there was just devastation and destroyed buildings.
Of course they can, they are Marines!
Minor correction: It's "Inmin-gun," literally "People's Army" ("inmin" and "gukmin" are Sino-Korean words for "citizen" or "people" - "inmin" took on its socialist nuance after 1945 and is only used in an official context in the DPRK; as a general rule Koreans in the ROK and the diaspora do not use the term "inmin" anymore unless specifically in the context of Communism).
Never forget! 🧡💛🧡
always good to see the 3d battle maps getting better
edit for more detailed feedback:
-day/night colour contrast still feels a little extreme when trying to keep track of the map details
-a lot of the establishing shot stopped being important once forces started moving and I was only looking at one corner of the screen. I'm not sure if cropping, zooming or choosing a different camera angle would help - I'm aware of Tim Cain's Rule of Feedback - but I look forward to where this goes in the future
This particular NK offensive reminds me of the Ludendorff Offensive in that neither seems to have any real objectives.
The objective is to win!
They also seem to both be done out of desperation because their situation will only get worse, and both see a fair amount of initial success.
Unlike the North Korean, the German won decisively
What a surprise, the Time Ghost Army officer of the week is me, Thomas A Dry, I assume chosen at random. My father was a WWII veteran and a Pearl Harbor survivor. He was a Navy aviation machinist mate on a Catalina PBY flying boat in the Pacific Theater who lived to be 100.
That's incredible! Thanks for your support and sharing a little bit about your father.
-TimeGhost Ambassador
2:42 will be preempting here the arrival of the THIRD country providing combat troops for the war.
The 10th Battalion Combat Team of the Philippine Expeditionary Forces to Korea lands in Pusan in Sept 19, 1950.
Unlike the British, they are familiar with American procedures and doctrine, as most have been adapted by the Armed Forces of the Philippines themselves, and are also using American weapons and equipment in the first place. There were also many veterans from WW2, guerillas or as part of the Philippine Scouts, not to mention that some of the officers have even studied at West Point.
Any thoughts to excerpting first-person combat descriptions in this series, as you did in The Great War? Korea's war wasn't as big or as long as the two World Wars, so I thought the time demands wouldn't be as strong.
i think they got the name the Woolworth brigade is they were so short on supplies like socks they had to buy them at Woolworths
I hope in future video you talk about what happens to the South Koreans fighting, or being forced to fight, for the North when the UN forces turn the tide in the war.
Holy moly
4:18 The correct pronounciation of the Korean name for KPA, 인민군, is In-min-goon, not In-mun-goon
Still a few weeks behind the front lines... hoping MacArthur goes away...sigh.
I watched Indy say "This was the second world war" today. I can wait hearing him say "This was the Korean War". Which technically he wont be able to say anyway, because its still going on :)
I asked a question on the livestream yesterday that never got answered (unless it was while I was eating lunch and if so I apologize) so I figure it’s worth trying now. Has anyone on the timeghost team fought in any wars? Oh, and thank you all so much for what you do.
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