These Cacth Wrestling techniques are incredible, it was not for nothing that Kazushi Sakuraba managed to defeat some members of the Gracie family in Pride.
Fantastic vid. I am familiar with a lot of the finishes but I liked how you built the sequence from the tie up and progressively built on it. What I like most about catch is that the basics seem to integrate into just about any style or art. ( especially Japanese ones where standing grappling tends to occur due to grabbing the gi).
I have purchased your other courses. Well worth the dough. If you will publish a course on catch wrestling I will most certainly be a customer again. Cheers and thanks for the great content you provide. - Martin
I think you meant his son, Harry Smith. Davey Boy Smith passed a while ago. I haven't read other comments. So apologies ahead of time if this is already brought up. I really dig this video. I enjoyed the small details he is explaining
Yes he had to be pissed, cause if you join a BJJ comp team and roll with the high level or elite grapplers, they'll make you regret and pay for your saying, guarantee you that. Been there. Now pay attention, Sakuraba and Josh Barnett are the very few who clean technically catch defeated Gracies. Besides that, Gracies could give you tone of real life match stories where BJJ prevail over catch. Neil Melanson, Josh Barnett, both great ambassadors for catch are now speaking on how catch is a disappearing grappling breed. Josh even spoke of how harder it was for him to find another version of grappler who could beat him or continue the catch work for years ahead to come. Catch isnt fading away, its just being pciked up by BJJ grapplers, who will probably shut down catch schools after picking all their moves. Its alreay in progress, but keep in mind, catch cannot beat BJJ.
@@tededo Rufino Dos Santos defeated Carlos Gracie waayyy back in the day (like around 1935 or something). And the Gracies, unable to take an "L" fair and square retaliated by jumping Dos Santos, three against one. You don't see American kickboxers ganging up on Thai's after losing, do you? I didn't say that BJJ is an inferior grappling art, far from it. What I said was that if I had to choose between Brazilian Jiujitsu and Catch Wrestling, I'd choose the latter.
I was already sold on catch wrestling, after studying a few vids put out by Matt Furey , quite a few years ago..and this video demonstration really reinforced it . I think catch wrestling submissions are more devastating and effective overall , than similar ones taught in jiu jitsu . Due to the variety of tweaks that seem to be part of the arsenal. As well, some can even be aplied standing . Plus, it seems to have more variety of take downs and throws than jiu Jitsu. However , i still find jiu jitsu an absolute must know, for both learning how to defend from the guard position. As well as how to escape it.. And i haven't seen much emphasis or techniques from catch wrestling , on how to deal with same . This is the one flaw with catch wrestling, in my view . However , if i am wrong and there are actually catch techniques , dealing with all this ... I'd be very grateful to anyone providing information or video links , etc
In catch it's often called a "Saturday night ride" instead of guard. The position is used to avoid a pin rather than attack from (in general terms anyway) so is far less comprehensive than jujutsu in the approach. However as a result of this there are ways that arose to "break" the guard that aren't found in jitz Josh Barnett has some excellent guard dvds out
Harry has met Roy many times and speaks fondly of him. Catch has such a rich tapestry of tra jers and instructors, and there is variation from region to region and school to school. I was born and bred in Manchester (Hyde) and am well aware of the history there. This is a very, very small taste from what I have learned which is from Billy Robinson line (who taught Roy) Thanks for watching
@@HAVOCJKD You have got that wrong my friend, Billy Robinson never taught Roy Wood! Roy Wood was taught by Billy Riley 😂 If you knew anything about the history of Catch Wrestling you'd know this!
@@rippersubmissionwrestling2704 taught as in shared and coached...clumsy phrasing on my part, (mea culpa) but actually attested to in the "Catch the hold not taken" footage. I'm sure you have seen it, but if not its readily available on RUclips. Its a good watch The more you know and all that Again....thanks for watching
@@HAVOCJKD Again, your phrasing concerns me Roy Wood was never coached by Billy Robinson! He was taught by none other than Billy Riley, and is Billy Riley's successor! My lineage comes through that line, but it's probably going to take me 8-10 years before I'm good enough to teach!
@@rippersubmissionwrestling2704 its probably akin to senior student/junior student relationship. Certainly Billy was the more accomplished and would often muck in at the pit. Its not a hill I'd die on regardless. Certainty Riley was the main influence (though according to Gotch not the best wrestler) there, and no one is denying that. As I said, Harry spoke very fondly of meeting Roy and he is certainly a key figure on the UK scene alongside others such as Jack Mountford. As long as we are all representing then the art will continue to grow and spread, stylistic spice and pickles aside
Find a club and have at it! Failing that some good collegiate wrestling and some BJJ will give you some exposure and insight ...they aren't as different as many would have you believe
Yes it is - some would claim "the original" form, and not without basis. It is certainly the more well known thanks to Billy Robinson, Karl Gotch etc and the history of the Snake Pit in Wigan.
I tell or someone tells that the "real combat" techniques... which is what you call the catch, come from the region between Egypt and India, therefore, African, Arab, Persian and Indian technique... So it doesn't do much for your ideas of Aryan racial supremacy hahaha
Hate the swan neck, you've shown a postion that has no levarage to control the head and you've just locked in a collar elbow that isn't doing anything. This is what happens when you're copy pasting grappling ideas without wreslting expericance. When you're putting your weight on someone you don't leave an arm straight, hangling down for extra weight, WTF, this is extactly what i'm on about. This guy ideas are well above his station. Not trying to be a prick but so much of this won't work in reality. I love catch and this is so bastard, half cocked, duiltied down version. Look who hos practising his "tech" on, how is that not a tell? He gives me self defense vibes i can't watch anymore but i bet he's into chi.
It goes by any names you want. In common parlance these days the vast majority know it is the Kimura, so sometimes the vernacular is easy to use mid flow. I learned it as a DWL first, but I'm not so precious or delicate as to quibble over the other terms used ....a rose by any other name etc As my coach is Harry Smith I'm pretty sure I have my lineage down just fine - and he doesn't give a hoot what i call it as long as I can execute it
@@HAVOCJKD When you try to name drop and it's some juiced nepo baby. Listen to any of the old-timers. Using BJJ parlance increases the death of Catch and is a disrespect to those before.
@@TheFort87 name drop/lineage is potatoes/potartoes - you said "must be BJJ" I was showing you it wasn't If people who get that delicate about a name then they've got bigger issues to deal with.
Painful to watch the instructor hooking at that speed on the lady. Especially the neck crank and the wrist lock. The student should consider another school, while she still has enough vertebrae to get there
It's under absolute control, she's been with me for over 11 years and is still kicking....in fact she is fighting for the world championships for WKC in October Don't judge everything by misconceptions you bring from elsewhere. Thanks for watching
@@MishaBJJ that what you are seeing is "hard" and uncontrolled - it's not. It is no harder than any sub put on in a high energy roll. The tap is always respected, it's just the techniques themselves come on quicker because of certain mechanics in how they are applied
Jesus Christ dude! Can't you hear her? And no I'm not being a grappling pansy, I'm a brown belt in Jiu Jitsu and Brown Belt in Judo and Brown Belt in Japanese Jiu Jitsu, Retied MMA fighter and boxer. So, I'm aware that this stuff is not supposed to be nice and comfortable. But there is no reason to go that fast or deep on that wristlock. Other than that, I love Catch. It's my style of grappling and great techniques. But man, I was feeling for her
She's tougher than booked leather and is fine - and above all the Tap is ALWAYS respected. We have trained together for years and you get used to an "ouchy" noise and a "stop right now" noise If you watch the Catch videos on this channel where Harry is feeding me my own ass you hear me making similar noises, but everything is under control. Thanks for watching!
@@HAVOCJKD I definitely did. I've been a fan of CACC since my High School wresting days, and try to pick up tricks whenever I can. Do you have anymore content hidden away?
These Cacth Wrestling techniques are incredible, it was not for nothing that Kazushi Sakuraba managed to defeat some members of the Gracie family in Pride.
Thank you - I have been blessed with good teachers :)
Also, Josh Burnett ( catch wrestler ) submitted a big name former BJJ champion , as well.
Catch is definitely legit !!!
Fantastic vid. I am familiar with a lot of the finishes but I liked how you built the sequence from the tie up and progressively built on it. What I like most about catch is that the basics seem to integrate into just about any style or art. ( especially Japanese ones where standing grappling tends to occur due to grabbing the gi).
Really enjoyable to watch and what a great teacher...I'm a Jujitsu guy looking to improve my ground game...this is looking promising...
Hey thanks man! I appreciate the love and good luck on your journey!
Let me help you...go practice Jiu-Jitsu
Morgan is a WARRIOR! 💪🏾
Good stuff!
Grappled with a Catch base for 5 years, absolutely loved it 👌🏼
I have purchased your other courses. Well worth the dough. If you will publish a course on catch wrestling I will most certainly be a customer again. Cheers and thanks for the great content you provide. - Martin
Ink and Steel we are working on making one with the British Bull Dog Davy Boy Smith
Bud, you're best checking out Catch Wrestling Alliance 👍 They actually have courses available on their site!
I think you meant his son, Harry Smith. Davey Boy Smith passed a while ago.
I haven't read other comments. So apologies ahead of time if this is already brought up.
I really dig this video. I enjoyed the small details he is explaining
@@homsup Harry has the rights to the name and goes by the moniker these days :)
A regular chip off the old block too
do you have an online course?
Catch wrestling ain't no joke
I like this alot more than bjj
They compliment each other well
Absolutely loved your informative and humorous delivery! Thanks for helping to keep the art we love alive....👊🏿👍🏿
Thanks for the kind words and Thanks for watching!
The other day, I REALLY made a Gracie Brazilian Jiujitsu mad when I told him that Catch Wrestling could beat BJJ. He was pissed.
Yes he had to be pissed, cause if you join a BJJ comp team and roll with the high level or elite grapplers, they'll make you regret and pay for your saying, guarantee you that. Been there.
Now pay attention, Sakuraba and Josh Barnett are the very few who clean technically catch defeated Gracies. Besides that, Gracies could give you tone of real life match stories where BJJ prevail over catch.
Neil Melanson, Josh Barnett, both great ambassadors for catch are now speaking on how catch is a disappearing grappling breed. Josh even spoke of how harder it was for him to find another version of grappler who could beat him or continue the catch work for years ahead to come. Catch isnt fading away, its just being pciked up by BJJ grapplers, who will probably shut down catch schools after picking all their moves. Its alreay in progress, but keep in mind, catch cannot beat BJJ.
@@tededo Rufino Dos Santos defeated Carlos Gracie waayyy back in the day (like around 1935 or something). And the Gracies, unable to take an "L" fair and square retaliated by jumping Dos Santos, three against one. You don't see American kickboxers ganging up on Thai's after losing, do you? I didn't say that BJJ is an inferior grappling art, far from it. What I said was that if I had to choose between Brazilian Jiujitsu and Catch Wrestling, I'd choose the latter.
@@jeraldmcclainofficial6005 Fair enough.
@@tededolol
wonderful instruction and there are many things that will flow into how I do things.
I was already sold on catch wrestling, after studying a few vids put out by Matt Furey , quite a few years ago..and this video demonstration really reinforced it .
I think catch wrestling submissions are more devastating and effective overall , than similar ones taught in jiu jitsu . Due to the variety of tweaks that seem to be part of the arsenal. As well, some can even be aplied standing .
Plus, it seems to have more variety of take downs and throws than jiu Jitsu.
However , i still find jiu jitsu an absolute must know, for both learning how to defend from the guard position. As well as how to escape it.. And i haven't seen much emphasis or techniques from catch wrestling , on how to deal with same .
This is the one flaw with catch wrestling, in my view . However , if i am wrong and there are actually catch techniques , dealing with all this ... I'd be very grateful to anyone providing information or video links , etc
In catch it's often called a "Saturday night ride" instead of guard. The position is used to avoid a pin rather than attack from (in general terms anyway) so is far less comprehensive than jujutsu in the approach. However as a result of this there are ways that arose to "break" the guard that aren't found in jitz
Josh Barnett has some excellent guard dvds out
@@HAVOCJKD
Thanks for the info 🙂👍.
Fantastic instruction!
Thank you
Excellent presentation. Thank you!
You are most welcome
Tut - tut, he could at least help her up ... and this is a fantastic video; super clear instructions, starting with the basics
Awesome video and instruction. Morrigan is a game gal.
25:41 * checks she's not dead 😂
Love the video, can see you two 100% trust each other
Thank you :)
Love this video! Great work!
This is brilliant. Thank you.
Thank you so much for this...great stuff!
Really enjoyed your instruction and humouros delivery kept me engaged thank you definitely looking out for more of your videos.
Thank you! My channel is on YT as "HAVOC Martial Arts"
@@HAVOCJKD I’ll definitely check it out 🙂
This is a great video.
Great information. Keep up the good work. Keep up the good work. Shouts out to your uke and to your abilities as a teacher.
Wendell Benedict 🙏🙏🙏
She is one tough cookie :)
perfection!
Epic!
great video.
Loved, "this is the nice version...this is the not-so-nice version...this is the NASTY version".
Jack mountford special at 18.52
VERY OBSTREPEROUS BACKGROUND NOISE !
Loved it...she was a great uke!
Congratulations for not having your comment blocked .
🙏🙏🙏
She really is - a great training partner and tough as leather
Honestly the best guys are Roy Wood at the Snakepit Wigan if you're in England! If in the states Catch Wrestling Alliance or Jon Strickland!
Harry has met Roy many times and speaks fondly of him. Catch has such a rich tapestry of tra jers and instructors, and there is variation from region to region and school to school.
I was born and bred in Manchester (Hyde) and am well aware of the history there. This is a very, very small taste from what I have learned which is from Billy Robinson line (who taught Roy)
Thanks for watching
@@HAVOCJKD You have got that wrong my friend, Billy Robinson never taught Roy Wood! Roy Wood was taught by Billy Riley 😂 If you knew anything about the history of Catch Wrestling you'd know this!
@@rippersubmissionwrestling2704 taught as in shared and coached...clumsy phrasing on my part, (mea culpa) but actually attested to in the "Catch the hold not taken" footage. I'm sure you have seen it, but if not its readily available on RUclips. Its a good watch
The more you know and all that
Again....thanks for watching
@@HAVOCJKD Again, your phrasing concerns me Roy Wood was never coached by Billy Robinson! He was taught by none other than Billy Riley, and is Billy Riley's successor! My lineage comes through that line, but it's probably going to take me 8-10 years before I'm good enough to teach!
@@rippersubmissionwrestling2704 its probably akin to senior student/junior student relationship. Certainly Billy was the more accomplished and would often muck in at the pit. Its not a hill I'd die on regardless. Certainty Riley was the main influence (though according to Gotch not the best wrestler) there, and no one is denying that.
As I said, Harry spoke very fondly of meeting Roy and he is certainly a key figure on the UK scene alongside others such as Jack Mountford.
As long as we are all representing then the art will continue to grow and spread, stylistic spice and pickles aside
Its a great system. I can feel her pain just watching it.
We need this in Cleveland, Ohio
Strong Style training center in Independence has catch wrestling roots
No gi is looking a lot like this these days
I. Want to. Learn Catch wrestling how do I. Start
Find a club and have at it! Failing that some good collegiate wrestling and some BJJ will give you some exposure and insight ...they aren't as different as many would have you believe
Where can I visit a Catch club? I live in Sweden but I would like to visit a club anywere! 😄🤘
good stuff.
Thanks!
Thanks :)
“I like her so I’m going to do it this way…”
*Proceeds to show that he, in fact, does not like her.
The little guy looks like Shawn Michaels.
Is Lancashire wrestling a style of Catch Wrestling?
Yes it is - some would claim "the original" form, and not without basis. It is certainly the more well known thanks to Billy Robinson, Karl Gotch etc and the history of the Snake Pit in Wigan.
efficacity , real combat technics , no need chinese or japanese wrestling technics! tahanks so much !
Glad you enjoyed!
"techniques" have nothing to do with nationality. It's not a Chinese, Japanese, English, Irish etc thing. It's a human thing.
I tell or someone tells that the "real combat" techniques... which is what you call the catch, come from the region between Egypt and India, therefore, African, Arab, Persian and Indian technique...
So it doesn't do much for your ideas of Aryan racial supremacy hahaha
I feel really bad for Morgan lmfao
She's tough, she can take it
She is tough!!!..lol
yes she is :)
Simple direct beautiful
Thanks :)
Thank you!
Sarah: I make my own luck
He’s almost ripping her apart 😆
She can take it :)
Thanks for watching!
and he's going easy on her...
That's why i love Catch for self defense over the Brazilian stuff...
When I think of wrestling, I think of everyone jacked up on steroids, It is very strange watching ordinary looking people do wrestle. 🤨
must be a very good husband.
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muay thai clinch
I feel sorry for the lady 😅
Don't....she gets her own back on me enough in training 😊
Hate the swan neck, you've shown a postion that has no levarage to control the head and you've just locked in a collar elbow that isn't doing anything. This is what happens when you're copy pasting grappling ideas without wreslting expericance. When you're putting your weight on someone you don't leave an arm straight, hangling down for extra weight, WTF, this is extactly what i'm on about. This guy ideas are well above his station. Not trying to be a prick but so much of this won't work in reality. I love catch and this is so bastard, half cocked, duiltied down version. Look who hos practising his "tech" on, how is that not a tell? He gives me self defense vibes i can't watch anymore but i bet he's into chi.
Can tell BJJ instead of Catch because you would get yelled at by any catch instructor for calling it an Americana. Double wristlock
It goes by any names you want. In common parlance these days the vast majority know it is the Kimura, so sometimes the vernacular is easy to use mid flow. I learned it as a DWL first, but I'm not so precious or delicate as to quibble over the other terms used ....a rose by any other name etc
As my coach is Harry Smith I'm pretty sure I have my lineage down just fine - and he doesn't give a hoot what i call it as long as I can execute it
@@HAVOCJKD When you try to name drop and it's some juiced nepo baby. Listen to any of the old-timers. Using BJJ parlance increases the death of Catch and is a disrespect to those before.
@@TheFort87 name drop/lineage is potatoes/potartoes - you said "must be BJJ" I was showing you it wasn't
If people who get that delicate about a name then they've got bigger issues to deal with.
Painful to watch the instructor hooking at that speed on the lady. Especially the neck crank and the wrist lock. The student should consider another school, while she still has enough vertebrae to get there
It's under absolute control, she's been with me for over 11 years and is still kicking....in fact she is fighting for the world championships for WKC in October
Don't judge everything by misconceptions you bring from elsewhere. Thanks for watching
@@HAVOCJKD what misconceptions are you talking about exactly?
@@MishaBJJ that what you are seeing is "hard" and uncontrolled - it's not. It is no harder than any sub put on in a high energy roll. The tap is always respected, it's just the techniques themselves come on quicker because of certain mechanics in how they are applied
Jesus Christ dude! Can't you hear her? And no I'm not being a grappling pansy, I'm a brown belt in Jiu Jitsu and Brown Belt in Judo and Brown Belt in Japanese Jiu Jitsu, Retied MMA fighter and boxer. So, I'm aware that this stuff is not supposed to be nice and comfortable. But there is no reason to go that fast or deep on that wristlock. Other than that, I love Catch. It's my style of grappling and great techniques. But man, I was feeling for her
She's tougher than booked leather and is fine - and above all the Tap is ALWAYS respected. We have trained together for years and you get used to an "ouchy" noise and a "stop right now" noise
If you watch the Catch videos on this channel where Harry is feeding me my own ass you hear me making similar noises, but everything is under control.
Thanks for watching!
Inappropriate to use the word Gospel out of the context of Christian Theology.
No it's not, but thanks for watching anyway.
Fantastic presentation. Thank you.
You are most welcome- glad you enjoyed it
@@HAVOCJKD I definitely did. I've been a fan of CACC since my High School wresting days, and try to pick up tricks whenever I can.
Do you have anymore content hidden away?
@@deangullberry5148 I have some coming out soon :)
@@HAVOCJKD Awesome!!!
Thank you, Sir!
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