Why Southwest Is Rethinking Its Boeing 737 Strategy
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2019
- Part of Southwest Airlines’ strategy was its focus on operating one plane across its fleet: the Boeing 737. After two fatal crashes of Boeing 737 Max planes Southwest has been forced to cancel thousands of flights and Southwest’s CEO has said he’s willing to explore ordering planes from other manufacturers like Airbus. The question for Southwest is whether switching from Boeing to Airbus is worth the trouble.
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Why Southwest Is Rethinking Its Boeing 737 Strategy
The report is 12 minutes long, but I feel it took an hour to watch. Talk about stretching things to the “Max”.
GTFO!! Lol!
10 outta 10 for the pun 👍
Its not 12 minutes, it ls 11.51 minutes
David Dima facts
I will never again fly on any plane built by boeing especially the 737 Max or the 787 dream liner , never again ...
When my kids were young, I flew Southwest for business. On the way home, I asked the flight attendant for two more packs of peanuts because I knew my kids would appreciate the special packages with airplanes on them. The flight attendant told me he would take care of me after he was done with the whole cabin. When he came back, I heard him approaching from behind with a loud and flamboyant and sing-songy voice saying, "HERE YOU GO-OH!!!". He tossed an entire unbroken bag full of the peanut packages onto my tray table, with quite a crash! I wasn't ready for such an outrageous display of his, um, spirited attitude, and me and everyone sitting around me just laughed out loud. My kids enjoyed the airplane peanuts for weeks. I've enjoyed telling that story for years.
I hope my true story has helped those of you who needed uplifting after this video repeated itself so many times.
Dennis Fox a similar thing happened to me on a SW flight. My son asked the flight attendant for more pretzels, she gave him the whole bag and yelled “ENJOY”. 😂
Thanks for sharing your story.
Love the story man 🤘🏼
This video is extremely repetitive. Who edits these things?
Sadly looks like a kid has edited it
the 'L' button is your friend.
Isaac Eberts idk most of these have been pretty good
South West ?
AlmostGreatNate Most are good, but there’s definitely a large handful that are edited and scripted really poorly.
Southwest is my preferred airline. Mainly because of their business strategy. Low cost, direct flights, “open” seating, no baggage fee, no change/cancellation fee.
Same for me
no more for me. been with since 2010
Also no TV's and no meals but those are material things right lol
@@mylesandkerria Get drinks and snacks. Plus free entertainment streamed thru your phone via the planes onboard wifi for free. Who needs a TV when people can stream stuff to there phone on the plane.
Mine also, but I had to switch to Delta a year ago for work, as SW doesn't fly to many of the places I've had to go to, primarily for International or trips to small regional airports across the country. Delta has been the worst, but my only options are American and United and I can't stand them either. Wish I was back on SW. I flew them 4 years straight without a single issue... Delta... my gosh, where to begin with them!
informative video, but very repetitive
Sam Aragon VERY!
@@maqnthreez Has some howlers too. I don't know how a passenger can be "briefly" sucked out a window. That's like "briefly" dying.
Sam Aragon well you know the average American has the attention span of a goldfish, so😏
Sadly RUclips incentivizes everyone to produce videos over 10 minutes long so we’re increasingly stuck with repetitive content, filler, longer intros and outros, and generally much harder to watch lower quality videos. Don’t blame CNBC, blame Google for their corporate greed and intentional algorithms that favor more ad revenue. The only ones who win are Google and, to a lesser degree, the content providers who compromise quality for greater quantity.
I know you are all missing the point. After years of being exposed to Fox News, Trump supporters need things repeated ad nauseam. 😎😎
The information is good... but whoever produced this needs to be reported to the Department of Redundancy Department!!
Dana Danarosana And reported to the orchestral strings section. The pizzicato violin sections are assinine.
@@thomaspick4123 Ha! (... and I DO get the double meaning with the spelling...) Trombone player of 30+ years here speaking... I may be a jazzer but I can see my orchestral friends cringing at that as well. Rough week so far... thanks for making me smile this morning!
@@Dana_Danarosana This video is 8 bars with repeat marks and no coda.
You know what’s repetitive? All these damn comments about this video being repetitive.
Whoa
You know what's repetitive? All the comments about this video being repetitive!!!
@@AntiCitizenZero :: LOL!
On another string: What does Southwest pilots who have flown the 737Max 8 say about their experience? As far as I have learned it is partly a problem caused by increasing airspeed? Did the pilots who did not die have a feel for what was possible or were they adhering to some speed-restrictions (fx. to save fuel, which at the same time would deactivate MCAS?)
That’s how feedback works, it’s supposed to be repetitive
Lol 😂
I still consider SOUTHWEST the best, most reasonable, and safest airline that I traveled on compared to other airlines..The blame lies on Boeing, not SOUTHWEST.
Same here; I LUV SWA!
Yeah you're right Southwest is by far my favorite airline as well
"Put all your eggs in one basket and suffer the consequences!"
-Granma, circa 1978 AD
meaturama It is called a joke, idiot.
So repetitive; though it was rewinding
Joe Mac: I think ist the supposedly upbeat music, that’s just plainly irritating.
RUclips pays by how long people watch your videos now. No more short videos.
They gotta get that 10 minutes
Like documentaries for Americans they have to over explain everything
Gotta drag the video to over 10 minutes for all the extra ad revenue eh? 😏😏😏
The A220 might actually make sense for a lot of their network.
Just sent the letter to Southwest CEO.
they originally want to keep them out of US market tho
MattPSU02 YES.
The 737M only caused problems for about 6 months. Give it a year and theyll be just fine. They've already resumed their pathway programs (put on pause 6 months ago) and stocks are rising again.
@@jesster777 , really? You think it'll be fine in 6 months? The max 8 is done. People ain't stupid to gamble with their lives due to the greed of Boeing. We only live once. After two crashes of brand new planes in less than 6 months, no one in their right senses will ever board that flying coffin again. Even if the US resumes using the max 8, foreign customers will not.
When you need to make your videos 11 minutes long but you only have 6 minutes worth of materials
3 minutes max. The FAA needs to ground CNBC.
If you think safety is expensive try an accident.
@baerleon That was the philosophy of Ford's bean-counters when they rejected "costly" changes to the build of the collapsible "Pinto" firetrap car : it was cheaper to pay the legal-fees and the compensation to settle cases where "Pinto" drivers/passengers had been trapped and burned alive after accidents. Ho hum.
Did an intern edit this video? Or was the editor just not feeling well?
This makes me trust southwest more because they seem to actually care about their customers
I always choose Southwest sauce with my Subway sub!
Lucky Me that was random
I always skip the carrot's though. 🤪
Lmao same here
Me Too, I'mean, Also!
Sometimes I choose French mustard with my sub. 737 MAX is powered by CFM LEAP engines which is partly a French engine. 😁
Omg stop. You went over the entire history of the airline, it's founders, costs, routes, current and historical share prices, marketing, growth, current performance, the reasons for current standings, airline marketing plans for the future, it's personality to the public, historical accidents, the airlines historical purchases plus a gazillion more details. I feel like I've just been employed by Southwest and had to watch one of those lame welcome onboard videos.
I’ve had long discussions with a retired SWA pilot. 1) The issue was run-a-way trim with the Max. 2) The two crews that crashed their Max’s if you put together their total flight time for one pilot, they would not have qualified to work at SWA. 3) SWA, Alaska (not since they took over Virgin), Ryan and other airlines that fly a single airframe have great safety records because of one type certificate. The CEO of SWA is not going to move away from Boeing. 4) Publicly SWA is saying they haven’t heard from Boeing. You can bet that all of Boeings biggest customers are on an engineering conference call every week. 5) Unlike the Airbus, the pilot flys the 737, and is not just a voting member with the computer. The original type certificate was issued in 1967 and the current Max can only deviate from it with only incremental upgrades. 6) I will fly on the Max one the first day of revenue flying, because I have faith in the pilots, if they will put their butts on the line so will I. Remember, the most important butt on the plane is the pilot’s.
Jerry Camp How about let’s not fly the max to hurt Boeing really hard for 1) including flight augmenting software in the quiet. 2) Allowing the software to do whatever it wants including trimming the plane to nosedive. 3) Not including 3 AoA sensors like superior Airbus, which allows the airplane to identify a broken sensor and not send everyone to their deaths. 4) No one at Boeing has been jailed for putting murderous software in the planes, in greedy cost saving fashion. Therefore the public should show their rejection of the Max.
Norbert you forgot 5) for continuing to produce an aeroplane that was designed in the 1960’s. It’s a dinosaur and should not be flying as the NG or the MAX. They need a brand new design, period. As an example, Embraer’s Ejets are far superior because they were brand new design. I know because I have flown the Ejet and am currently flying the NG (the MAX is arriving to my airline in 2 years time).
Norbert Mayer if those pilots had the correct training and hours they could have disabled the stabilizer trim and flown the plane manually. There are two switches that disconnect the Stab Trim from autopilot and allow the pilots to manually control it.
They obviously wanted to explain why southwest airlines had a policy of only using the 737 series of planes and hence were more vulnerable to the max being banned then their competitors were.
CNBC:"Basically one type of plane"
727: ...But what about me?
@Agent J They are different type ratings...
727 am I a joke to you
The person was blown out the window, not sucked. The air pressure is pushed out, not sucked out.
Where are those journalists, analysts & experts who said this would be an easy fix?
The fix is easy, the recertification isn't.
What do you wanna bet that those were all experts in providing Business Team Evalutions and Stock Market Projections for the airline industry and never once got their hands dirty wrenching on a jet engine?
Hans it wasn't that easy. It was being done by the same Indian programmers who developed the mcas software
Ben Franklin they were just repeating what Boeing told them and wanted them to say. Propoganda.
@@GuinessOriginal I don't think that's what he meant by fix.
They should start using the superior *Airbus A321(XLR)* instead.
Paolo Ariedo 😂😂😂 good one.
Paolo Ariedo They won’t. The US government would probably intervene to prevent that.
The A321 XLR would not fit into the model they want to keep the number of flight attendants down. There was bigger 737’s to buy but Southwest did not want to pay for the extra flight attendants. Southwest has gone over and reviewed the A220 which would fit better into its model. If Southwest was to add to the fleet they would still keep Boeing. Your running to the same problem if you have an all Airbus fleet. Airbus has problems too with there A320NEO with the P&W engines and the A350-900 had technical issues. The DC-10 which was grounded in the late 70’s. It had some major problems and would go on to fly in passenger service into the 2010’s and still used as a freighter. At the end of the day Boeing & Airbus they are all made up of similar parts supplied by the same company Honeywell, CFM and the list goes on...
Southwest is hands-down the best US airline!!! They MUST survive!!!!!
Yahh and to survive they should change the aircraft. A week ago Boeing suspended the production of the Aircraft. If you are a good foresser you might know what will happen next..
@@kimjong-un464 The airlines are not going to wait forever for Boeing. I hope the A320 jumps in and picks up the slack.
They are awesome with their comfy seats and fun flights especially Vegas flights
@@gregghanson6095 yes its time soutwest makes a decision and opts for Airbus whoz aircraft are safe, reliable, modern and fuel efficient. Boeing's cost cutting measures have doomed them.
Maybe now, but Spirit is changing fast and in 5 to 10 years, might be larger than Southwest.
It’s Boeing and the FAA faults.
All Boeing planes other than the MAX have very good safety records. The last major crash in the U.S. was in 2009, which speaks highly of both Airbus and Boeing. The Asiana 777 crash in San Francisco was pilot error. Let’s not engage in mass hysteria. Flying has never been safer and it will continue to be the safest mode of transportation going forward.
Justin Hopkins just so long as you don't fly on the max
Southwest and Ryanair put all their eggs in one basket. What'd they expect
I think they thought they could trust Boeing to deliver a safe airplane. I,ll bet all airlines will be skeptical about placing large orders until the planes ordered. Are prove over time to be safe
Boeing should rethink the industry it makes business in.
What about coffee machines?
Too dangerous. Maybe just the coffee cups.
737 is still the best single isle airplane ever made, just the max has the issues
Stephan Fiebich nope the Airbus 320 is
The 737 “MAX”!!!!!!! Not the standard 737! They have to leave the MAX but not the entire 737 fleet.
Bradley Coleman Exactly. But this is a news agency, what do you expect.
You have the reason, 737-700 thru 737-900 are the best planes, the MAX program is gonna be scrapped
Their Boeing planes are buggy. And Boeing controls The FAA and the NTSB. Boeing likes to gamble with people’s lives. So no more Boeing for me.
@@yolamontalvan9502 if its Boeing, i aint going
The TARMAC
It's like this video is trying to meet a word count by repeating every topic twice.
Hey they must have learned from my college essays. Tell them what you need to tell em, then tell em what you told em, and finally let them know you told em what you told em.
Always good to diversify. Just like car dealerships who sold just one brand name did decades ago after strikes and recalls.
RIP American MD-80
That plane was so freaking noisy.
Good riddance.
Madd DOG
Isn't the A220 (C Series) a similar width fuselage, slightly wider, with similar seating capacity and a touch longer range? And much more efficient.
Ebros in the back yes but I enjoyed it but in the front it was the quietest plane out there and the most reliable
Don’t forget more then a few DC-9s and MD 80-90s have crashed with large losses of life.
Southwest is by far my favorite US airline. I've flown with them since I was a kid and continue to do so. Just wish I'd bought more of their stock sooner.
That O'Leary man might be the only person that truly says what everyone in the industry is thinking!
The entire board of corporate directors need to fly the plane before anything else happens
The script started (basically) repeating itself. They ran out of things to say, but wanted a longer video so they could increase their watch time.
Very nice and informative video. Keep up the good work.
This is the reason that my flight was cancelled that I booked for Christmas. I had to switch to Frontier. Kind of annoying they let me book in September when it seems the planes have been grounded since March.
Leave Southwest as it is, Mr. Kelly. Startup your own brand new competitor airline and standardize on a plane that isn't over 50 years old.
Ideal would be a single-aisle, customized version of the Dreamliner. Modern, efficient, with a better flying experience Then, staff the startup with interchangeable crews and let it grow naturally just as Southwest grew naturally (aside from Jim Wright's unjustified attempt to curb success).
Otherwise, new competitors have the advantage without the size challenges that now prevent Southwest from being light on its feet. You could call it Love Airlines.
A220-300 have still some manufactory
capacity to be sold into a new airframes, if you're thinking about a change :)
I do not think they want to downgrade to a little plastic toy that needs new engines every 2 weeks.
Nope, the A320 is better.
@@Flying_GC nice lie and bull crap
1:59 This image is perfect
I flew to Chicago on a brand new Southwest 737-Max about two years ago. I remember wondering if there were any unknown design defects hiding in the plane that hadn't shown up yet.
7:54
Just when I thought this Boeing 737 MAX debacle couldn't get any worse, I found out it's making LaGuardia more crowded....
I'm going to miss flying southwest out of Newark. I hope they come back.
I wish they didn't pull back so many flights from Philly.
ha ha ha JetBlue is better than souh west
Excellent and thorough work.
Southwest was the sole catalyst in 737 max design!
They have been the sole catalyst in 737 upgrade and model design since the -200 model!
A220-300 perfect replacement. As it's made in US Airbus plant.
@TheSushiraw The A220-300 is not that small. It is in the same capacity class as the 737-700, A319 and 737MAX-7. The cabin diameter of the A220 is only 9.8 inches smaller than the 737 and 757, and the A220 fits 5 of the largest economy seats across instead of 6 smaller economy seats in a Boeing narrowbody.
this is what happens when you put all your eggs in one basket...
They need the a220, or e190, not a larger but smaller more direct airframe...but I think they will bet it all with Boeing....they really would be coming out of pocket i.e with adding 321 neo or 739/737-10....... SWA will ride the storm out ..
Low prices?
@@nutsackmania Thats one way of putting it....
It's a popular discount airlines strategy though. It'll be interesting to see how the various all 737 low cost carriers handle it.
0:11 that’s Newark. SWA didn’t go there until about 2012. And they are pulling out due to the equipment shortage caused by the Max grounding.
I’m flying southwest in May of 2020 and I’m actually looking forward to it. They’re awesome with customer service.
The girl in the gold outfit in one of the pictures was the flight attendant on my flight with southwest! 😂 Small world at 2:49
The A220, A320 & A321 would be good for Southwest
Your right
You should start a petition
They will if Boeing doesnt get their act together. They are already rethinking their commitment to Boeing and to restrategize how they manage their growth according to the video. Their Scottish counterpart, EasyJet started with an all Boeing 737 and phased over to all A320. So it's doable.
I do not usually fly on SOUTHWEST because of the idea that I have of them of being the greyhound of the air. This past week to get from Tampa to Sacramento and back I had to take 3 planes going (all 373-700) and on the way back I took a -700 to San Diego from Sacramento. All these aircraft were of average quality. BUT upon boarding a final plane in San Diego I got a shock it was a 737-800. I did not think that the 800 was flying then I learned that it is 800 MAX that is grounded a different version of the one I flew on. It was strange flying on the 800. It seemed roomier and was the best 737 I have ever flown on, ALL the seats were tan (fake) leather and the plane smelled very fresh and new. All the pocket inserts were new and clean, the crew was generous to a fault and the crew were the type you see on TV all the time - even to the point that there was a just married couple on board and the crew played music for them and called them to the front of the plane to give them a magnum of champagne.
Bottom line to all this is, if this is any indication of how the new MAX 800 will be I could very easily talked into flying with Southwest more often.
I fly SWA as much as possible. Even though, I have flight benefits on United because my sister is a flight attendant. I really haven't used my benefits much. I use it when I go to Houston where she lives. Last time was 2 years ago this month actually. 9-18-19
Boeing used to be an engineer's company, run by engineers. They were at the forefront of aircraft development with the 707, 727, 737 and 747 and used cutting edge technology to make those aircraft as save as possible. Safety overruled costs.
Then Reagan interfered and forced them together with McDonnell Douglas, which could be described as an accountancy firm building aircraft. Boeing was the stronger party and it was more an take-over than an merger. Unfortunately the management of McDonnell Douglas were more adapt at company politics than the engineers that ran Boeing, and even though they nearly managed to run McDonnell Douglas into the ground as a company, they still managed to worm themselves into the leadership positions at Boeing, so nowadays Boeing is run by bean-counters in stead of engineers with a love of aviation.
By all rights the 737-Max 8 shouldn't exist; it is basically a design that first flew in 1967. The 737 is a remarkable and basically very safe aircraft, but it has had its day. By now Boeing should have a successor up-and-running. But developing a successor costs billions of dollars, and the bean-counters didn't like to invest that kind of money and decided to extend the life of the ageing 737 by hook-and-crook. That can be done on a relative shoestring budget which pleases the bean-counters.
Then Airbus presented the 320 NEO next generation-line which were much cheaper to run and Boeing started to lose orders. As developing a modern successor at that time would take much too long, it was decided to yet again upgrade the ageing 737 which resulted in the 737 Max-series. This time however the changes were so extensive that the aircraft no longer flew like the original 737. This in turn would mean that airlines already flying the 737 would have to invest lots of time and money to have their pilots rated on the 737 get a new type-rating for the 737 Max. And if airlines have to retrain their pilots in any case, they might just as well buy a more modern design, most likely the Airbus 320 NEO.
And that's where MCAS comes in. That system interferes with the flight controls of the 737 Max to make the flight characteristics similar to the older 737 types, and thus a pilot with an 737-rating wouldn't need to be retrained to fly the new aircraft.
And so Boeing creates a marketing advantage with airlines already flying the 737 as they can sell new planes without settling their clients with additional costs and thus will be able to make more sales, the only thing the bean counters are interested in.
Unfortunately using two AoA-sensors - which the 737 does have - would qualify the MCAS-system as safety-related, and the FAA would have demanded retraining of any pilot. So only a single AoA-sensor was used in the system and in case it fails the MCAS-system won't notice and try to correct the aircraft's attitude based on faulty input. This is most likely the cause of both the Indonesian as the Nigerian crash.
The truly sad thing is that the 737 Max probably is a very safe aircraft as Boeing engineers really know what they are doing and the basic design has been proven. But it came equipped with a fault-prone system for no other reason than marketing strategy.
Roy Kliffen cliff notes ?
Comprehensively stated. The MD management influence at Boeing is palpable. Saw the same outcome when Bell Helicopter started competing with state-subsidized helicopter manufacturers in Europe and bean-counters at Textron took over the reins at Bell.
@@davidjose9808
Yep, the rise of the "professional" manager in the eighties has only benefited themselves and the stockholders who got a bigger return on investment. The workers and the customers are the ones that have lost out.
That's sad. And I remember (and looking back at my video on the max crash) that the US still thought the 737 max was safe to fly until every other country banned the aircraft.
@ban ang I completely agree with you. I have nothing more to add to that. 737 max should have been grounded after lionair 610 and not ethiopian 302.
Nowdays the FAA just seems like a puppet of boeing
This information is very important for me thank you Southwest Airlines 👍😁
If Southwest needs more capacity, maybe they could get the 717s back from the Delta lease. Also, the references to a "50 year old plane", the average age of the Southwest fleet is less than 12 years.
"They are rethinking their commitment to the 737," yeah I heard you the first 10 times you said that.
Hey, I LOVED those stews in hot pants and go-go boots!!
Thanks to the feminist movement and political correctness, sadly they will be no more. Will admit though, they were pretty awesome! All sexiness aside that isn't the reason I liked these uniforms, they were just unique and fun! Definitely not scantily-clad. You wanna see scantily clad, go to Twin Peaks Restaurant. Surprised those outfits haven't been abolished, but some short-shorts and boots are.
Yesteday a new report came out saying texts between workers at Boeing showed that almost everyone knew the MAX was unsafe before it even rolled off the assembly line.
Get the A220-300. That plane is powerful and will collect fares from a high-altitude airport on a hot day that grounds everyone else. Your passengers, pilots and bean-counters will be grateful.
Boeing hurting Southwest is better than Boeing hurting it’s passengers.
We've heard of alleged return dates for the max but I don't see it coming back in 2019
Southwest leaves Newark was troubling for many patrons in the Tri-State area. It’s a $50 bill to go to LaGuardia from New Jersey and Southwest flies out of Islip in Long Island also. Two airports on Long Island. Now United has basically a monopoly in Newark. Lack of competition sucks
Informative storyline...... wish Southwest and Boeing all the best.
Time to go to Airbus
They don’t need to fly the max series the regular 737 is fine and safer like the 800’s and 700’s
No, they NEED the MAX, desperately, for the exact reason why the MAX was created in the first place: the A320NEO family. The A320NEO is 14% more fuel efficient than the A320CEO and 737NG. That's HUGE in terms of efficiency and money saving potential for airlines. The A320 is a newer design, and has growth potential, hence why it was so easy for Airbus to fit much larger engines on the airframe. The 737 though was designed with minuscule turbojets (compared to current turbofans). Then it was redesigned to fit the CFM56 from the -300 onwards. The NG family is essentially the same, just with an updated version of the CFM56 and new avionics and interior. But the MAX has much bigger engines, which don't fit under the wings, and that's wherein the problem lies, and the aerodynamic consequences of pushing the engines forward and up resulted in the bandage that we know as the MCAS. AIrbus could just plop the new engines no problem because the plane sits high enough off the ground, but not the 737. Therefore, had Boeing not designed the MAX, it would've created a huge market loss in sales as the 737 customers would essentially spend 14% more in fuel, which in the long-term is suicide. Boeing rushed the MAX development, but it is fixable. But the MAX is the last leg for the 737 design. After this, they'll have to make a clean sheet design.
My husband has a bit of a phobia about Boeing. Maybe due to twice being a passenger on two that have had major technical issues mid flight. One which the pilots really struggled to land & one where an engine failed just after take off. He always tries to fly Airbus aircraft if possible
That is the outcome of depending on single product
The Max not the 737NG. Its the most reliable and most used aircraft. U guys are good at sprinkling lies on truth
SF what are you talking about
Guinness not knowing the difference between those aircraft means u dont need to comment. They said 737 is in crisis but the max is not the ng
SF and the NG isn't the only other 737 flying either, don't you know that? There's models going back to the 50s. It's clear that mean the 737 max they said it plenty. Fix up.
SouthWest should start thinking about switching to Airbus.
Their 737 are pretty safe!
Wouldnt mind flying in some southwest a221 neos
it would be very expensive for SW to move to Airbus. The training costs is what kept the 737 continued manufacture as is and thus brought about the birth of the MAX building a longer airframe not originally designed for the aircraft.
Southwest’s strategy has seen better days.
Works for ryanair...Should never buy the first of a new model anything.................
Jason Brown Perhaps for Ryanair, but if Southwest weren’t reconsidering their strategy, that would suggest their current one works.
@@nathancosta36 He's just pointing out the fact that the 737 is a wonderful jet and they should've waited longer to jump so heavily into the 737 max. Boeing will owe them a lot of money lol.
@Dustin Gable I understand.
More than likely this is a strategy to get a better deal from Boeing. Transitioning to a new airplane would be a massive undertaking from Southwest. And Southwest's demands of zero simulator transition time was one of the major reasons why Boeing management worked hard to keep the MCAS out of the manuals.
This is a Southwest commercial.
Given how Southwest has grown and evolved, Southwest would be well served by a new NMA aircraft that would connect its major centers (Baltimore, Tampa, Midway, Dallas Love, Houston Hobby, Denver, Phoenix, Los Angeles, etc) not only with each other but for coast to coast and Hawaii flights and for their Mexico, Central America and Caribbean locations. It would also expand opportunities for Southwest to expand in South America and even cross the Atlantic.
...Southwest also benefited greatly in 1999 when they locked in a ten year deal for fuel at a low price before fuel costs skyrocketed.
if boeing just redesigned the landing gears, but meh, they're just too greedy to lose sum money.
When i thought i was out. These airliners pull me back in. Boeing what is the problem man.
I watched the first 2 minutes which ended by saying that their share price and profitability are UP during the 6 months since the grounding. If their stock and profitability are up, then it's obviously not doing them a lot of harm. The cut in capacity (both them and other airlines) helps them out.
Southwest is in a tough spot. They can't simply change their aircraft, because it would take years to train (new) pilots and tech crew but also because they are simply not available within a short to medium period of time. They really don't have a choice but to wait for the MAX to get it's S together as O'Leary said. But it is becoming increasingly uncertain if and when that will happen...
Hopefully Southwest will weather this storm and keep with the Boeing 737.
There a saying, "Never put all your eggs in ine basket.." Should have also included another plane model from Airbus in their plan.
2:45 clean looking dude like Ryan from the office has a cigarette in his mouth
So Southwest has just woken up to the problem of having all your eggs in one basket, while there competitors worked this out years ago!
I’m a regular flyer on Southwest. In fact, I was on one of those 737 Max planes. My issue is with Boeing and how their company creates poorly made planes. An article I read in Bloomberg stated Boeing laid off their experienced engineers and hired temp workers from Indian based staffing firms. They paid them $9 per hour!!! I am not kidding. I took a second job at JC Penney as a sales associate, and I made more than that!! Needless to say you get what you paid for. The coding was incompetently done. There were too many mistakes.
And it’s known that pilots from Asia and Africa don’t have most extensive training as American and European pilots. I know the pilots on the Ethiopian airline had less 200 hours of flight training. Whereas in the US, you have to have 1500 hours of training. That pilot did not have the skills to handle an emergency like that.
1500 hours of experience is not 1500 hours of training.
Actually Ethiopian pilots they take extremely seriously when come to training don’t be bulshiting
One of the 2 pilots of Ethiopian airline has less than 200 hours of training. The other pilot has many years of experience. And it was the airplane's sole sensor that was defective. (The airplane originally designed with 2 sensors, but took 1 away during the later stages of the designing process.)
Pete S. All of the Boeing planes other than the MAX have very good safety records. There hasn’t been a major crash in the U.S. since 2009, which speaks highly of both Airbus and Boeing. Avoiding Boeing planes all together is a bit irrational.
the max had the same guy approving it in the faa.
I do airport transfers for a living. Went to drop off at Southwest in Boston and they were gone. Moved to another terminal. I looked like I didn't know what I was doing.
They could always get that bombardier plane for short flights. That looked like a decent plane for flights of an hour. Sure they hold about 70 some people but it’s a start to get some flights off the ground.
I wont be flying on the MAX until that aircraft has flown for at least 2 years, safely.
meaturama Same!
I still love Southwest. They're the only airline I've flown that has any differentiation from the others.
It’s not Southwests fault
The edits look like a television broadcast with the commercial breaks removed, which would explain its repetitive appearance.
At the beginning, when they describe their strategy, it sounds exactly like Ryan Air’s strategy, because it is.
I feel like i just saw the same video 4 times
It seems Southwest is father of Ryanair
Essentially there is nothing wrong with the Max - the software issues have been corrected. The real problem is with crew training and corporate culture, which is true for most large corporations and government, these days. If the crews on the crashed aircraft had been properly trained the crashes wouldn't have happened - this is not to say that the crews were to blame or were incompetent. With a properly trained crew I'd put myself and my family on a Max right now. The media, as usual, has made a mess of reporting this issue. I doubt that most of them could accurately report what they had for breakfast.
I flew in a Max 8 southwest, feels safe the whole flight.
Airbus are better planes. Better built quality and quality control as well as far more advanced technology.
Ok only coach class and no food I get it now move on
Me personally, I trust Southwest and have been flying them for years. When this aircraft goes operational again, the odds of me flying on it are low in the coming months. After that, by the time I fly on it which is eventual, I’m fine with it.
I’ve only ever been on Boeing 737 and a MD-80 on American Airlines