THANK YOU SO MUCH TERRY. Over a year ago, we received the 4-tier and WISH we had gotten the 5-tier. My husband on day 1 cut out a square on the center walls to give them one large unit. They can move throughout the rectangular space (5 hens to 1 roo has worked great on each tier). The reason I did a search for hatching time today is to see if ANYONE has a good idea how to PREVENT THE POOP FROM FALLING DOWN INTO THE FOOD TRAY BELOW. You have given us a GREAT idea to go find the metal automotive drip pans. Bravo!!! Other than those 2 things, WE LOVE THIS SYSTEM and will order the 5th tier soon.
Oh, and for anyone else who goes with hatching time, be sure to order the flooring for the PARTRIDGE so the poop will fall through to the pan. I hope this helps someone and they don’t have to order all new flooring, later, like we had to do.
Good Video Terry... I did mine with 2 smaller openings, one in the front and one in the back. That left the middle to support the floor. I just did another layer with only 1 divider cut out and left 1 smaller cage for any time I need to separate any birds.
@@CoturnixCorner Just found a 3 tier set up, plus brooder and grow out cage on Craigslist. Can you clarify three things please. First....you commented above that "this" idea will be more beneficial to the birds. Which idea are you referring to? Cuttiing both middle dividers out, or leaving one smaller cage and two open? Second question: do you feel that the cage lost any necessary structure/ is it sagging? Lastly, does the poop move thru the cages with no issues, and if yes, is that on the normal sized birds or are you running a larger breed? Thanks for the detailed video review.
get the 3 tier one and take off the casters, drill on 3 pieces of 2x4 so u can slide in a portable jack and have the cages sitting atop 2 layers of cinderblocks to raise it off the ground nicely for those with any sort of mobility issues, then when ur ready to deep clean crank the jack up into position etc
As I was building my cage I cut out the entire mesh from the inside side panels before I put it together. I haven't had an issue with weight as of yet.
Hi I just bought these cages for my baby quail, for when they reach adulthood. Anyways I was wondering if you could put a link to where I can find these exact drip pan so I don’t accidentally buy the wrong ones
I just got the single layer tier this week . That’s gonna help out a lot! How many jumbos after your modification compared to before? Thanks for your time and videos!
Just built the Four level unit! Love it! Now just waiting on my 100 Jumbo hatching eggs! Love your videos! Thanks for taking the time too share your knowledge! What brand of feed do you use? Is it medicated or not? Also, do you feed your birds grit? Thanks for your time! Chris Montague Ohio..
Thanks Chris, I'm sure you'll enjoy the cage system, it's been working well for me. The feed I use is Purina Gamebird Starter and their layer mix. I used to use Manna Pro but the prices are way to high for the higher protein feed. It's non medicated and I do not feed grit, it's not required if you're feeding crumbles. Good luck with your hatch!
Hi I am 13 and I have been looking for some quail for a while but there are none around. Do you feel any differentce with hatching eggs than getting chicks? I have a 10x4 cage for them I want them to be friendly. Thanks slot for your help your videos are so informational!! I want to start a RUclips channel about my pigeons and my quail when I get some. Is there anything you suggest for me to get started? I feel like I will run out of ideas
I would start with eggs, that way you get to experience hatching out your own chicks. If you spend time with them and handle them occasionally they will get comfortable with you and even come to the door of the cage when you feed them. Once you get your birds you will have a lot of ideas for doing RUclips videos, just share your experiences and what you've learned while taking care of your birds. Send me a link when you get the channel up and running! Thanks
I understand the benefit of waterer redundancy by removing the wall compartments in case one waterer clogs but is it better to keep the 3 roosters separated in 3 separate compartments? Or is their no benefit (less aggression) by separating the roosters? If it's beneficial to separate the roosters would adding an additional waterer in each compartment provide the best of both worlds?
@@CoturnixCorner Will do by cutting out openings between compartment separators so birds can mix, breed and share waterers. I can always reverse this for any reason by tying back up the dividers. My quail eggs are due in tomorrow, incubator is up and running and stable. I've got a 3 layer Comfortplast cage system arriving this week (2 layer breeder and 1 layer brooder). The folks at Hatching time upgraded my cages to slightly larger flooring grids (partridge size). They explained to me that although the quail cages are sufficiently sized for Coturnix quails, the breeder/egg roller floors are a little too tightly patterned for optimal poop pass through and recommended the slightly larger partridge floors. The upgrade cost was minimal. In the future they plan on offering this as a selectable, standard option.
Thank you for providing such a helpful discussion/analysis for new comers like me. I've got my incubator and cages and eggs are on their way to me! I'm a little confused about jumbo coturnix capacity. Is 3 birds/sf too many birds (inhumane and leads to aggression/picking/injury?). The cages are are 18" x 36" = 4.5sf. For jumbos raised for meat/eggs/breeding does that translate to 4.5sf x 3birds/sf = 13-14 birds (10-11 hens plus 3 roosters)? That's more than what you stated. I've read several others recommending as many as 3.5 birds/sf which brings you up 15 birds (12 hens plus 3 roosters).
The oil drip pans you described and generally available online and at local auto part stores are 36 X 25 X 3/4 Inch. Do you find 3/4" a bit too shallow. I will be getting my plastic cages in a week and like the idea about using a steel oil drip pan which is deeper (25" vs 20") than the plastic one supplied to keep the poop out of the feeder. I will use the supplied plastic one as the temporary one while cleaning the metal drip pan. My experience as a mechanic is that these pans are rather flimsy. Do you find them rigid enough when they get loaded up?
Does the modification change the amount of males and females you’d put in the cage… if I remember correctly it was recommended 1 male to 4 females in each section? Next question how many jumbo quail do you recommend in the modified cages that are now one cage… Interested in hearing your response… I personally did feel that the space was small for quality of life… Please let me know your thoughts
I imagine you could use a smaller pan that will fit through the door opening. I usually offer dust baths about every two or three weeks just to keep the birds busy especially if there is a little fighting going on. But, no it's not necessary.
Have you yourself, or has anybody shared a hack to make a dust/sand bath that would hang on the outside, over the door, so I can put it on once a week, and not worry about space inside / fitting through the doorway? I have seen several, but none made for Hatching Time. Trying to make one, but thought maybe not 'reinvent the wheel....' @@CoturnixCorner
Does this affect how many males you can now have in that section? Previously I was going to have one make per apartment but If I do this, will one male be enough for 12 females?
@@webbkeller5109 I was more worried that having more than one male per space might initiate fighting or less than 1 to 4 ratio for group of 12 females would result in many unfertilized eggs.
Decente product … but if you have to move it around make sure you get couple dozens of zip ties … Easy to clean…. But boy this thing is frágil. (Make sure you zip tie the thing real good )
People need to be aware that they need to line up those arrows just right or the whole thing will be ruined! Know what you are doing before you begin or you will waste hundreds of dollars 💸 !
great video buuut i would never buy the Comfortplast cages they cost a fortune .its just stupid what they cost .ive made 21 quail cages that have lasted me for 9 years at a quarter of the cost
THANK YOU SO MUCH TERRY.
Over a year ago, we received the 4-tier and WISH we had gotten the 5-tier.
My husband on day 1 cut out a square on the center walls to give them one large unit.
They can move throughout the rectangular space (5 hens to 1 roo has worked great on each tier).
The reason I did a search for hatching time today is to see if ANYONE has a good idea how to PREVENT THE POOP FROM FALLING DOWN INTO THE FOOD TRAY BELOW.
You have given us a GREAT idea to go find the metal automotive drip pans.
Bravo!!!
Other than those 2 things, WE LOVE THIS SYSTEM and will order the 5th tier soon.
Oh, and for anyone else who goes with hatching time, be sure to order the flooring for the PARTRIDGE so the poop will fall through to the pan.
I hope this helps someone and they don’t have to order all new flooring, later, like we had to do.
Good Video Terry... I did mine with 2 smaller openings, one in the front and one in the back. That left the middle to support the floor. I just did another layer with only 1 divider cut out and left 1 smaller cage for any time I need to separate any birds.
I think this idea will be more beneficial to the birds. Great idea!
@@CoturnixCorner Just found a 3 tier set up, plus brooder and grow out cage on Craigslist. Can you clarify three things please. First....you commented above that "this" idea will be more beneficial to the birds. Which idea are you referring to? Cuttiing both middle dividers out, or leaving one smaller cage and two open? Second question: do you feel that the cage lost any necessary structure/ is it sagging? Lastly, does the poop move thru the cages with no issues, and if yes, is that on the normal sized birds or are you running a larger breed? Thanks for the detailed video review.
I have a 5 tier unit coming next week, thanks Terry< this info helps greatly
Thanks ... I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
Thanks saving to buy on of those in the next year or so ......5hanks for the honest review
get the 3 tier one and take off the casters, drill on 3 pieces of 2x4 so u can slide in a portable jack and have the cages sitting atop 2 layers of cinderblocks to raise it off the ground nicely for those with any sort of mobility issues, then when ur ready to deep clean crank the jack up into position etc
As I was building my cage I cut out the entire mesh from the inside side panels before I put it together. I haven't had an issue with weight as of yet.
Sounds like a good idea ... thanks for sharing!
Good evening Terry that's a good idea brother
Hi I just bought these cages for my baby quail, for when they reach adulthood. Anyways I was wondering if you could put a link to where I can find these exact drip pan so I don’t accidentally buy the wrong ones
I just got the single layer tier this week . That’s gonna help out a lot! How many jumbos after your modification compared to before?
Thanks for your time and videos!
I keep 9 hens and 3 roosters per level.
Ok so the same amount?
With the Growing Cost of Lumber if you were completely new to quail would you build your own cages still or go with these Comfortplast Cages?
they now sell them with removeable walls and an option for bigger holes in the floor for the jumbo quails
Just built the Four level unit! Love it! Now just waiting on my 100 Jumbo hatching eggs! Love your videos! Thanks for taking the time too share your knowledge! What brand of feed do you use? Is it medicated or not? Also, do you feed your birds grit? Thanks for your time! Chris Montague Ohio..
Thanks Chris, I'm sure you'll enjoy the cage system, it's been working well for me. The feed I use is Purina Gamebird Starter and their layer mix. I used to use Manna Pro but the prices are way to high for the higher protein feed. It's non medicated and I do not feed grit, it's not required if you're feeding crumbles. Good luck with your hatch!
Maybe version 2.0 of the cage will make removable dividers between each cage section.
Where did you purchase the automotive drip trays and what size if you remember?
Nice I love my Coturnix quail
I saw they now sell middle walls. How do those go in already purchased units? Cut the whole middle wall out?
Good to know.
Hi I am 13 and I have been looking for some quail for a while but there are none around. Do you feel any differentce with hatching eggs than getting chicks? I have a 10x4 cage for them I want them to be friendly. Thanks slot for your help your videos are so informational!! I want to start a RUclips channel about my pigeons and my quail when I get some. Is there anything you suggest for me to get started? I feel like I will run out of ideas
I would start with eggs, that way you get to experience hatching out your own chicks. If you spend time with them and handle them occasionally they will get comfortable with you and even come to the door of the cage when you feed them. Once you get your birds you will have a lot of ideas for doing RUclips videos, just share your experiences and what you've learned while taking care of your birds. Send me a link when you get the channel up and running!
Thanks
I understand the benefit of waterer redundancy by removing the wall compartments in case one waterer clogs but is it better to keep the 3 roosters separated in 3 separate compartments? Or is their no benefit (less aggression) by separating the roosters? If it's beneficial to separate the roosters would adding an additional waterer in each compartment provide the best of both worlds?
Multiple roosters will do fine together and ensure your hens get bred.
@@CoturnixCorner Will do by cutting out openings between compartment separators so birds can mix, breed and share waterers. I can always reverse this for any reason by tying back up the dividers. My quail eggs are due in tomorrow, incubator is up and running and stable. I've got a 3 layer Comfortplast cage system arriving this week (2 layer breeder and 1 layer brooder). The folks at Hatching time upgraded my cages to slightly larger flooring grids (partridge size). They explained to me that although the quail cages are sufficiently sized for Coturnix quails, the breeder/egg roller floors are a little too tightly patterned for optimal poop pass through and recommended the slightly larger partridge floors. The upgrade cost was minimal. In the future they plan on offering this as a selectable, standard option.
About ready to buy some cages but i cant make up my mind between these and wynola.
If I Iwould read above !i'd know where to buy them. I just got off the phone with Sue at Hatchingtime. Thanks!
Thank you for providing such a helpful discussion/analysis for new comers like me. I've got my incubator and cages and eggs are on their way to me! I'm a little confused about jumbo coturnix capacity. Is 3 birds/sf too many birds (inhumane and leads to aggression/picking/injury?). The cages are are 18" x 36" = 4.5sf. For jumbos raised for meat/eggs/breeding does that translate to 4.5sf x 3birds/sf = 13-14 birds (10-11 hens plus 3 roosters)? That's more than what you stated. I've read several others recommending as many as 3.5 birds/sf which brings you up 15 birds (12 hens plus 3 roosters).
I would keep it to 12 birds per level
@@CoturnixCorner Thanks for your help/answer. So would that ideally mean 10 hens and 2 roosters or 9 hens and 3 roosters?
@@elliotrubin3689 exactly
The oil drip pans you described and generally available online and at local auto part stores are 36 X 25 X 3/4 Inch. Do you find 3/4" a bit too shallow. I will be getting my plastic cages in a week and like the idea about using a steel oil drip pan which is deeper (25" vs 20") than the plastic one supplied to keep the poop out of the feeder. I will use the supplied plastic one as the temporary one while cleaning the metal drip pan. My experience as a mechanic is that these pans are rather flimsy. Do you find them rigid enough when they get loaded up?
Been using them for more than 2 years and they are still going strong. I clean cages every three days.
Hello Terry,
Thank you for you video,
How many inches is the hight of the cage per unit?.
Cheers
Front of the cage is about 10" and the rear approximately 8"
Thank you Terry
Great video
Thanks Leo
We try to watch all the videos but work keeps us busy
How many birds would you keep in the modified cage
I'll probably do 10 birds per unit, 2 males to 8 hens.
@@CoturnixCorner thank for the response.
Does the modification change the amount of males and females you’d put in the cage… if I remember correctly it was recommended 1 male to 4 females in each section?
Next question how many jumbo quail do you recommend in the modified cages that are now one cage…
Interested in hearing your response… I personally did feel that the space was small for quality of life…
Please let me know your thoughts
I usually keep no more than a 2:10 ratio in the modified cages. Probably closer to 1:7 or 8.
How many birds will each one of those layers hold?
Where did you buy the Comfortplast cages?
Is available for sale in India?
Is there room for a dust bath and is it necessary?
I imagine you could use a smaller pan that will fit through the door opening. I usually offer dust baths about every two or three weeks just to keep the birds busy especially if there is a little fighting going on. But, no it's not necessary.
@Dorothy Thomas what do I use for the dust bath?
Have you yourself, or has anybody shared a hack to make a dust/sand bath that would hang on the outside, over the door, so I can put it on once a week, and not worry about space inside / fitting through the doorway? I have seen several, but none made for Hatching Time. Trying to make one, but thought maybe not 'reinvent the wheel....' @@CoturnixCorner
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What is the size of the drip pan? My local store has different sizes..
36" x 24"
Does this affect how many males you can now have in that section? Previously I was going to have one make per apartment but If I do this, will one male be enough for 12 females?
typically a male can breed up to 4 females without issues
@@webbkeller5109 I was more worried that having more than one male per space might initiate fighting or less than 1 to 4 ratio for group of 12 females would result in many unfertilized eggs.
@@ceharp8725 you could try 1 to 6 and see how it works out
Where do you find those automotive pans at a reasonable price?
VIP $20
where do you buy the drip pans? and what size are they?
The pans are available at Advance Auto Parts or most other auto parts stores for around $11 each.
I can’t believe how ridiculously expensive those plastic cages are.
I know, they’re so small and ugly too. I’m sure they’re efficient, but I don’t know if I’d want to have to look at them.😂
Decente product … but if you have to move it around make sure you get couple dozens of zip ties …
Easy to clean…. But boy this thing is frágil. (Make sure you zip tie the thing real good )
Very nice cages but also very pricy , cannot afford at the moment i wish i could 😐
Way overpriced! Then you should modify it to increase efficiency? :(
Those plastic cages are so small 🥺🥺
I like mine to wander. This is battery farming..
Can you do the dimensions for this cage please?
The each tier measures 36" X 18 inches.
Could you identify the auto drip tray you use, please?
shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/flotool-galvanized-drip-tray-11430mi/9016759-P?searchTerm=drip%20&%20drain%20pans
Where do you get the drip trays that catch the droppings?
Oh, I see you listed it in an earlier comment
Advance Auto Parts
Hindustan mp Mandsaur pirec
People need to be aware that they need to line up those arrows just right or the whole thing will be ruined! Know what you are doing before you begin or you will waste hundreds of dollars 💸 !
great video buuut i would never buy the Comfortplast cages they cost a fortune .its just stupid what they cost .ive made 21 quail cages that have lasted me for 9 years at a quarter of the cost
Those cages are garbage. Waterers constantly breaking and their way too small. Poop sticks to the floors. Just horrible!
Fyi stay away from the Facebook group. Full of toxic people