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As a boy scout from Québec, I 100% agree. Being a boy scout has helped me a ton on my path to become a virtuous man, I think I would've stayed a lost soul without these years spent in the woods with great friends, learning tons of useful skills and life lessons from respectable role models.
I was a scout when I was a kid. Unfortunately I strayed. And stayed strayed. Oh how I wish I hadn’t. Scouting is great. I support the scouts one hundred percent.
I appreciate your comment, Mike. What would you say eventually stopped you from that straying? Did the ideals instilled by scouting have anything to do with it?
@@RewiretheWest I haven’t stopped straying. I’m still straying because of bad habits and bad behavior as a young man. Say from around 18 or so. Smoking. Drinking. Drugs. Porn. Sloth. Very little education. Lying. Swearing. Just about everything you can name that the scouts say you should not do. I do !!!!!!! But I do have God. And I have hope. I’m 63. And in poor health. God save me.
for your consideration. The Scout Oath is based on the promise originally introduced by Baden-Powell in 1908 in Scouting for Boys: A Handbook for Instruction in Good Citizenship: Before he becomes a scout, a boy must take the scout’s oath, thus: On my honour I promise that- I will do my duty to God and the King. I will do my best to help others, whatever it costs me. I know the scout law, and will obey it. While taking this oath the scout will stand, holding his right hand raised level with his shoulder, palm to the front, thumb resting on the nail of the digitus minimus (little finger) and the other three fingers upright, pointing upwards:- This is the scout’s salute and secret sign. When you read the Scout Oath as is used by the BSA below, it is clear that the Scout Oath contains the same or parallel thoughts for the concepts in Baden-Powell’s original promise. Scout Oath On my honor I will do my best To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law; To help other people at all times; To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight.
I am but a humble servant of my Lord Christ. 😊 I ran across this when I was looking for a print out of the oath and law. Your video reminded me of one of the things I use to adhere to. What I use to stand for. Thank you sir, for this.
@@gregsquire9704 No need to thank me, I'm content with knowing the message resonates with you. Hope you enjoy the rest of the videos on the channel as well!
I shouldn't be surprised that Boy Scouts would feature on this channel but I wasn't expecting it. Yes I too was a Boy Scout many years ago. In fact a part of my family was very near its origins right at the beginning - I have a small picture frame containing a promissory note printed and issued by the local bank to repay the bearer 10 shillings upon the lifting of the siege of Mafeking. My family owned the printing business that printed these 'siege notes'. My story with Boy Scouts has a bit of a dark side though and I only came to realise this many years later. I was not a 'wayward soul' nor was I of rebellious temperament. I was fairly normal if otherwise already a bit of a bookworm by then. I learned all sorts of useful skills and greatly enjoyed my time as a Boy Scout and thereafter a year or so of being a troop leader. In hindsight I was never all that interested in the social recognition of plastering my uniform sleeve with badges and achievements. I did the things that only I felt were worth learning and doing. One of those was what was called the "backwoodsman" badge. The testing was done over an entire weekend an put all your outdoor survival skills to the test in the most practical way possible, all at once. It was an unwritten rule that this was the toughest badge anyone could earn and the younger boys were usually dissuaded from trying it until they were older and stronger. The dark side is that my country was engaged in an undeclared and internationally unpopular war at the time. Years later I read a book about what our special forces (locally known as "reccies", short for reconnaissance) got up to during that time and it mentioned a great deal about what kind of person the army was actively trying to recruit into these elite units. Most of the reccie training was almost a carbon copy of what we learned at Boy Scouts except for firearms training. I recalled receiving my conscription call-up papers near the end of high school and I remember that the army seemed oddly interested in the Boy Scouts and specifically which proficiency badges we had earned. I also recalled that our Scoutmaster at the time was a reccie and was tough as nails, although skinny as a rake. Then the penny dropped. What if the army was using Boy Scouts as a kind of pre-selection tool to find high-potential candidates for spec ops? It made a lot of sense in hindsight but I never heard it said overtly as such. The book, however, did mention that the reccie recruiters were in great competition with the universities to find intelligent, independent, capable, young men since enrolling at university was one of the few ways to legally defer conscription to national service at the time. So if the kinds of young men that the Boy Scout movement was producing were in great demand from both the army and the universities, how much more so for the army if these young men already had a solid grounding in fieldcraft and other practical skills like first aid, orienteering, map-reading, and were already physically fit and accustomed to the hardships of extended periods outdoors? Half of their spec ops training was already done by the time they were old enough for the draft! In addition they were likely already accustomed to an authority structure outside of their parent's household - a crucial transition for any young man entering adulthood. Boy Scouts was never explicitly a militaristic authority structure but certainly had similarities to it, or at least more so than the freedoms of the civilian job market. A yet darker side to this was that these young independent thinkers were also most likely to see through the war-time propaganda and understand the ideologically driven aspects of the reason we were at war with Communism in the first place. It was surely a nearly impossibly complex existential crisis to ask of even an intelligent 18 year-old and I'm sure many chose to ignore it or rationalise it somehow. Fortunately for me the war ended a year or two before I was to be conscripted, but the ideological struggle continued on unabated and has to a large and palpable extent ruined much of my country's strength as a nation. I believe one of the earliest casualties was the Boy Scout movement because it was simply incompatible with the new ideological imperatives of group-think, participation trophies, and peer-pressure masquerading as loyalty and honour. Everything valuable about the Boy Scout movement has been deliberately suppressed and forgotten.
Wow, really interesting backstory here, it sounds like you definitely had some firsthand experience at the fons et origo of scouting. Potential army involvement aside, I think this is some great insight into how Scouting develops boys in both the "physically strong" and "mentally awake" aspects referred to in the oath. The fact that both army recruiters and universities were competing for these young men is testament enough to that. Additionally, I think your final two sentences are spot on, especially in terms of Scouting being incompatible with group think or, as you elegantly put it, "peer-pressure masquerading as loyalty and honour." While Scouting indeed has a hierarchical structure, at least in my experience this never led to subservience or a lack of critical thinking. Scouting to me was always about the development of independent thinkers and strong, capable young men. It's a shame to see how much of this has been left behind in deference to the current ideologies.
our version is a bit shorter but carries the same meaning I think I swear to do my duty to God and to the queen to always do my best to think of others before myself and do a good turn every day
@@RewiretheWest Aye, that's the oath, why not pledge to do things that a wee old great granny would approve of, it's quite different to pledging allegiance to the crown, I doubt anyone outside England would go for that one
@@T8RZTOTZ Thanks for the suggestion - I'll need to organize my thoughts for what exactly I want to say with that one, but I'll be sure to touch on it eventually!
@@RewiretheWest I think if even a select few put this into practice, the fruit would manifest greatly. Quick question, how/what is your affiliation with Seamus from FreedomToons? He is how I found you.
@@T8RZTOTZ Couldn't agree more. Also, I've known Seamus for around a year or so, have worked on some projects together including the latest Debunkers vid that just came out
I like what you say, I dont know anything about boy scouts in the US. So Im curios what you mean when you say when it was stil decent. Sorry for my bad english.
@@RewiretheWest I need to look it up. It's referenced in a old hand book and may not be correct. I'll let you know. Rather enjoy the videos by the way.
@@RewiretheWest sir, i must make a correction. i am no longer sure if the scout oath was modeled after a knights oath. my grandfathers scout book, hand book for boys (5th ed 1954) has nothing about the origins however my scout book (1970-80s ed) well used so no cover and no copyright page. reference the oath for young men of Athens as equal. i quote " there is only one oath out of the past that ranks with the Scout Oath. that was the Athenian oath taken by the young man of Athens when he became 17."
the Athenian oath: We will never bring disgrace on this our City, by an act of dishonesty or cowardice. We will fight for the ideals and Sacred Things of the City both alone and with many. We will revere and obey the City's laws and will do oor best to incite a like reverence and respect in those above us who are prone to annul them or set them as naught. We will strive increasingly to quicken the public's sense of civic duty. thus in all these ways we will transmit this City, not only not less, but greater, and more beautiful that it was transmitted to us.
@@RewiretheWest ~ I try to apply the 'leave it better than you find it' with myself too. The examined life. It's difficult because life happens, but try to leave me better than before when it's possible and remember to try again when it's not possible.
3:08 - "It´s not in the nationalistic sense" - then proceeds to explain the meaning of loyalty to the country through definition of nationalism. That escalation and a build-up is exactly what nationalism is about. Generally I like vids on this channel, but making disclaimers from nationalism because libs told you it´s something bad isn´t quite based and honorable.
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What is wrong with being trustworthy, loyal, helpful, courteous, kind, cheerful, brave, clean and reverend?
As a boy scout from Québec, I 100% agree. Being a boy scout has helped me a ton on my path to become a virtuous man, I think I would've stayed a lost soul without these years spent in the woods with great friends, learning tons of useful skills and life lessons from respectable role models.
don't forget all the practical skills, like turning a tree into warmth or a rabbit into dinner
Hey man, love to hear that. That's really what it's all about. Also, vive le Québec! 🇲🇶
I was a scout when I was a kid. Unfortunately I strayed. And stayed strayed.
Oh how I wish I hadn’t. Scouting is great.
I support the scouts one hundred percent.
I appreciate your comment, Mike. What would you say eventually stopped you from that straying? Did the ideals instilled by scouting have anything to do with it?
@@RewiretheWest I haven’t stopped straying. I’m still straying because of bad habits and bad behavior as a young man.
Say from around 18 or so. Smoking. Drinking. Drugs. Porn. Sloth. Very little education. Lying. Swearing. Just about everything you can name that the scouts say you should not do. I do !!!!!!! But I do have God. And I have hope. I’m 63. And in poor health. God save me.
As a current Boy Scout I hope that more people can see this message, your video is very well made btw.
I was a Boy Scout during the early 2000’s from I think 2007-8 through 2015-16, I really enjoyed it and actually do miss it after a while. Troop 15.
I'm sure!
Thank you for honouring the Oath by raising the Scout sign.
Of course! Wouldn't have done otherwise
for your consideration.
The Scout Oath is based on the promise originally introduced by Baden-Powell in 1908 in Scouting for Boys: A Handbook for Instruction in Good Citizenship:
Before he becomes a scout, a boy must take the scout’s oath, thus:
On my honour I promise that-
I will do my duty to God and the King.
I will do my best to help others, whatever it costs me.
I know the scout law, and will obey it.
While taking this oath the scout will stand, holding his right hand raised level with his shoulder, palm to the front, thumb resting on the nail of the digitus minimus (little finger) and the other three fingers upright, pointing upwards:-
This is the scout’s salute and secret sign.
When you read the Scout Oath as is used by the BSA below, it is clear that the Scout Oath contains the same or parallel thoughts for the concepts in Baden-Powell’s original promise.
Scout Oath
On my honor I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country
and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong,
mentally awake, and morally straight.
You're the man, Greg. Props to you for finding this! Very cool to see the original
I am but a humble servant of my Lord Christ. 😊 I ran across this when I was looking for a print out of the oath and law. Your video reminded me of one of the things I use to adhere to. What I use to stand for. Thank you sir, for this.
@@gregsquire9704 No need to thank me, I'm content with knowing the message resonates with you. Hope you enjoy the rest of the videos on the channel as well!
All dads should take their kids to scouts, but be discerning about troop to join.
Absolutely. Discernment pays dividends
This is so antithetical to everything I was taught as a young man
Every single sentence
It's crazy
love your channel, what a gem have i just found! keep up the good work :)
Thanks so much Matteo! I really appreciate that, grazie mille 💪😎
I shouldn't be surprised that Boy Scouts would feature on this channel but I wasn't expecting it. Yes I too was a Boy Scout many years ago. In fact a part of my family was very near its origins right at the beginning - I have a small picture frame containing a promissory note printed and issued by the local bank to repay the bearer 10 shillings upon the lifting of the siege of Mafeking. My family owned the printing business that printed these 'siege notes'.
My story with Boy Scouts has a bit of a dark side though and I only came to realise this many years later. I was not a 'wayward soul' nor was I of rebellious temperament. I was fairly normal if otherwise already a bit of a bookworm by then. I learned all sorts of useful skills and greatly enjoyed my time as a Boy Scout and thereafter a year or so of being a troop leader. In hindsight I was never all that interested in the social recognition of plastering my uniform sleeve with badges and achievements. I did the things that only I felt were worth learning and doing. One of those was what was called the "backwoodsman" badge. The testing was done over an entire weekend an put all your outdoor survival skills to the test in the most practical way possible, all at once. It was an unwritten rule that this was the toughest badge anyone could earn and the younger boys were usually dissuaded from trying it until they were older and stronger.
The dark side is that my country was engaged in an undeclared and internationally unpopular war at the time. Years later I read a book about what our special forces (locally known as "reccies", short for reconnaissance) got up to during that time and it mentioned a great deal about what kind of person the army was actively trying to recruit into these elite units. Most of the reccie training was almost a carbon copy of what we learned at Boy Scouts except for firearms training. I recalled receiving my conscription call-up papers near the end of high school and I remember that the army seemed oddly interested in the Boy Scouts and specifically which proficiency badges we had earned. I also recalled that our Scoutmaster at the time was a reccie and was tough as nails, although skinny as a rake. Then the penny dropped. What if the army was using Boy Scouts as a kind of pre-selection tool to find high-potential candidates for spec ops? It made a lot of sense in hindsight but I never heard it said overtly as such. The book, however, did mention that the reccie recruiters were in great competition with the universities to find intelligent, independent, capable, young men since enrolling at university was one of the few ways to legally defer conscription to national service at the time.
So if the kinds of young men that the Boy Scout movement was producing were in great demand from both the army and the universities, how much more so for the army if these young men already had a solid grounding in fieldcraft and other practical skills like first aid, orienteering, map-reading, and were already physically fit and accustomed to the hardships of extended periods outdoors? Half of their spec ops training was already done by the time they were old enough for the draft! In addition they were likely already accustomed to an authority structure outside of their parent's household - a crucial transition for any young man entering adulthood. Boy Scouts was never explicitly a militaristic authority structure but certainly had similarities to it, or at least more so than the freedoms of the civilian job market.
A yet darker side to this was that these young independent thinkers were also most likely to see through the war-time propaganda and understand the ideologically driven aspects of the reason we were at war with Communism in the first place. It was surely a nearly impossibly complex existential crisis to ask of even an intelligent 18 year-old and I'm sure many chose to ignore it or rationalise it somehow. Fortunately for me the war ended a year or two before I was to be conscripted, but the ideological struggle continued on unabated and has to a large and palpable extent ruined much of my country's strength as a nation. I believe one of the earliest casualties was the Boy Scout movement because it was simply incompatible with the new ideological imperatives of group-think, participation trophies, and peer-pressure masquerading as loyalty and honour. Everything valuable about the Boy Scout movement has been deliberately suppressed and forgotten.
Wow, really interesting backstory here, it sounds like you definitely had some firsthand experience at the fons et origo of scouting. Potential army involvement aside, I think this is some great insight into how Scouting develops boys in both the "physically strong" and "mentally awake" aspects referred to in the oath. The fact that both army recruiters and universities were competing for these young men is testament enough to that.
Additionally, I think your final two sentences are spot on, especially in terms of Scouting being incompatible with group think or, as you elegantly put it, "peer-pressure masquerading as loyalty and honour." While Scouting indeed has a hierarchical structure, at least in my experience this never led to subservience or a lack of critical thinking. Scouting to me was always about the development of independent thinkers and strong, capable young men. It's a shame to see how much of this has been left behind in deference to the current ideologies.
our version is a bit shorter but carries the same meaning I think
I swear to do my duty
to God and to the queen
to always do my best
to think of others before myself
and do a good turn every day
oh, and we call eagle scouts venture scouts
nice, and where exactly is that from?
@@RewiretheWest Northern Ireland, although the Scots use it too
@@nathansheils2908 Hold up, are you telling me the Scots pledge to honor the queen? Has hell frozen over? 😂
@@RewiretheWest Aye, that's the oath, why not pledge to do things that a wee old great granny would approve of, it's quite different to pledging allegiance to the crown, I doubt anyone outside England would go for that one
Bro I just had a facebook post about this.
Very nice! Great minds think alike 🙌
@@RewiretheWest please discuss being trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean and reverend.
@@T8RZTOTZ Thanks for the suggestion - I'll need to organize my thoughts for what exactly I want to say with that one, but I'll be sure to touch on it eventually!
@@RewiretheWest I think if even a select few put this into practice, the fruit would manifest greatly.
Quick question, how/what is your affiliation with Seamus from FreedomToons? He is how I found you.
@@T8RZTOTZ Couldn't agree more. Also, I've known Seamus for around a year or so, have worked on some projects together including the latest Debunkers vid that just came out
It's called a Scouts Honor
I like what you say, I dont know anything about boy scouts in the US. So Im curios what you mean when you say when it was stil decent. Sorry for my bad english.
Lord Baden-Powle (sp) based the oath on the knights oath
I didn't know that, which oath is it in particular? Gave it a quick google but not sure which one you're referencing
@@RewiretheWest I need to look it up. It's referenced in a old hand book and may not be correct. I'll let you know. Rather enjoy the videos by the way.
@@RewiretheWest sir, i must make a correction. i am no longer sure if the scout oath was modeled after a knights oath. my grandfathers scout book, hand book for boys (5th ed 1954) has nothing about the origins however my scout book (1970-80s ed) well used so no cover and no copyright page. reference the oath for young men of Athens as equal. i quote " there is only one oath out of the past that ranks with the Scout Oath. that was the Athenian oath taken by the young man of Athens when he became 17."
the Athenian oath:
We will never bring disgrace on this our City, by an act of dishonesty or cowardice.
We will fight for the ideals and Sacred Things of the City both alone and with many.
We will revere and obey the City's laws and will do oor best to incite a like reverence and respect in those above us who are prone to annul them or set them as naught.
We will strive increasingly to quicken the public's sense of civic duty.
thus in all these ways we will transmit this City, not only not less, but greater, and more beautiful that it was transmitted to us.
of course i am not sure of the historical bases of this either. it is interesting though.
leave the world better than you find it.
Leave the campsite better than you find it, leave the world better than you find it. Solid principles at work there
@@RewiretheWest ~ I try to apply the 'leave it better than you find it' with myself too. The examined life. It's difficult because life happens, but try to leave me better than before when it's possible and remember to try again when it's not possible.
@@dsmyify That's actually a really helpful approach. Thank you, that's a perspective I'll try to keep at the forefront of my mind as well
3:08 - "It´s not in the nationalistic sense"
- then proceeds to explain the meaning of loyalty to the country through definition of nationalism.
That escalation and a build-up is exactly what nationalism is about. Generally I like vids on this channel, but making disclaimers from nationalism because libs told you it´s something bad isn´t quite based and honorable.