Sadly the Penn. & NYC merger was doomed from the start. The severe “rockin & rolling” on some shots is a reminder of how bad the infrastructure had gotten. Another great post of railroad history! Thank you!
30:37 is ground zero for the 70s. Derailed cars just left on the once-mighty double track Pennsy ROW which track looks like some modern shortline with a 10mph limit. LOL But if anyone thinks times are bad now, they just need to watch this video. Wow... the 70s was dystopian bad.
The PC sadly inherited a property that suffered heavily from deferred maintenance in many cases. Improvement did take place, at first, but the ever worsening cash situation soon had conditions going even further downhill. Still there's alot from this era I truly miss!
Just crazy to see how different it looked here. Especially downtown. All the building that had yet to be built. The skyline looked so different! I can see the Lazarus water tower! I rememeber back when I was a kid in the 90s when Lazarus was still around. When they would turn that into a Christmas tree. I could see it from my house if I climbed my tree in the backyard lol. It always reminded thst Christmas was just around the corner. I miss it dearly
A great video. I miss the double track mainline through my hometown of Piqua, Ohio. It went from 40+ trains per day to being abandoned in 2 short years after a complete upgrade. Sadly. 😢
Best one yet. Cherry on top was trackside views of Columbus Union Station. I assume that's The National Limited pulling out of Union Station. I don't know how many passenger trains visited Union Station, at that point, but read that the National was the last train in, and out before being permanently shuttered.
great Video! Thank you! The music makes you get deep with what was. Those switchmen and tower guys have all my respect. Throwing switches all day in all sorts of weather. The muck and grime had to be slippery. What a fantastic testimony of a greater era!
In my opinion , the US government ignored several of underlying causes of the failure of the PC merger, as well as the EL and several other roads. The ICC was an albatross hung on the necks of the rail industry. Had the Staggers act been proposed and passed by the late 1960s, there could have been a better chance of survival for PC. We could discuss all day the way the primarily NYC management selected winners and losers as far as core routes. Generally, the Pensey was the loser by Conrail time west of Pittsburgh and a big loser west of Columbus except for the section from Terre Haute to St.Louis. But, back to causes of failure besides poor leadership and the ICC, many local governments where any rail property was subject to taxation, rates were many times and many locations at a rate far in excess of the proportional value of the land. The video is great tho and appreciated. I grew up in Lima Ohio close to the EL mainline, but also saw plenty of PRR action as my mother helped at the serviceman’s canteen each month.
My German ancestors were U.S. railroad people. Pennsylvania Railroad and Baltimore & Ohio are the ones I know about. My great Uncle Dick was on the practice squad for the Columbus Panhandlers. The 15-story white marble building with the greenish patina roof is the former State of Ohio Departments Building. It’s interesting to see the building that replaced it the Rhodes State Office Tower is shown here too. Today the white marble building is home to Supreme Court of Ohio and it’s named after the late Chief Justice Thomas J. Moyer. I wonder what those old timers thoughts when they looked up at their rail yard and watched at the interstate highway system was being built…wondering how it would change the way freight was shipped. Must’ve been an interesting time for them. Thank you for this video by the way.
Wow... the grainy video, haunting music and it just being in the 70s gives it a surreal vibe. A friend of mine was an engineer on PC/Conrail between Buckeye and Pitcairn during this time. He had some crazy stories of the failings of the PC.
I came to columbus in the fall of 78. By then, most of this was gone, but not long gone. I used to hang out around US Tower and the Amshed depot. Its interesting to see what i barely missed. DB
My grandfather Robert (Mike) Earley worked for the Pennsylvania Railroad for 43 years and retired as the Yard Master of Grogan Yard which is the freight yard that sat below the state fairgrounds.
Wow! That track condition at 18:34 is something. Really bad. I like the old method of “trains move on a hand signal from the switchtender”. Gotta say that’s pretty cool 😎. I’ll bet that a real pain in the winter time with snow and ice and all those hand thrown switches.
Just fabulous documentation of a warmer time in railroading..And yet someday they'll look at videos of railroading back in 2024 and perhaps feel the same, that trains then were warmer, more charming then, than their, say, 2065 trains !!.... Yikes ! 17:33 - at least 19:21. Dat be some really bad track !!
Those track side structures, the staggered signals, the weeds, the flag man, that slightly haunting melody going back to another time...where does it all live?
Cool video. I'm wondering about the person who had the foresight to film this. The camera he used. The lab that developed the film. The rattly projector it was first played on.
@@paulrickman7549 The was taken by Paul Geiger, who was a tower operator and fireman for PC while on furlough from the towers. I don't know what camera he used or the lab that processed it, but the film stock was Super8 Kodachrome. This was digitized on a Retro-8 from MovieStuff, which is no longer in business.
Funny how almost 60 years on, the Penn Central "mating worms" logo has aged so well as to look almost contemporary. Not so much for the Amtrak arrow thingy. The Rhodes tower and remaining Union Station smokestack frame the date pretty reliably. And those carloads of new Camaros, probably coming up from the Norwood, Ohio (Cincinnati) plant?
They were called BILLBOARD REFEERS. There used to be alot of them, as each company had its own colors and scheme. One of the nicest was for HAMM'S BEER.
@@jmream2618 Have you looked at Google Maps or rail.guide of Columbus? It's much easier to seek out on a map. I will say through what used to be Union Station there's only two tracks today. When the Convention Center was constructed in the late 70s the trackage through area was significantly rationalized.
F’s, U Boats, SD24’s…… they’re all here, but how they ever stayed on the rails was anybody’s guess! So sad that the majority of this stuff is long gone!
I feel like if only they could have gotten the tracks fixed, they might have been able to pull it together, but it is clear the way they wobble around, the tracks were aging, and they had no money to pay for fixing, kinda like the tires on my truck! Needs replacing, can't afford it, but gotta keep on movin.
Its probably a good thing i didnt chase my boyhood passions. Had i gotten to be a conductor or engineer, id been fired on day one for hanging out of the cab trying to high 5 every conductor and engineer on the oncoming train
This one put tears in my eyes. It may have been a bad era but the men on duty got it done. RIP Penn Central. She didn't get a fair shake.
Sadly the Penn. & NYC merger was doomed from the start. The severe “rockin & rolling” on some shots is a reminder of how bad the infrastructure had gotten.
Another great post of railroad history! Thank you!
30:37 is ground zero for the 70s. Derailed cars just left on the once-mighty double track Pennsy ROW which track looks like some modern shortline with a 10mph limit. LOL
But if anyone thinks times are bad now, they just need to watch this video. Wow... the 70s was dystopian bad.
Tha 1st 20 seconds of this film made my 80yr old railfan day 👍👍
The PC sadly inherited a property that suffered heavily from deferred maintenance in many cases. Improvement did take place, at first, but the ever worsening cash situation soon had conditions going even further downhill. Still there's alot from this era I truly miss!
It’s sad that within a decade’s time a lot of this rail would either be severely downgraded or abandoned altogether. 😢
Just crazy to see how different it looked here. Especially downtown. All the building that had yet to be built. The skyline looked so different! I can see the Lazarus water tower! I rememeber back when I was a kid in the 90s when Lazarus was still around. When they would turn that into a Christmas tree. I could see it from my house if I climbed my tree in the backyard lol. It always reminded thst Christmas was just around the corner. I miss it dearly
@ 28:51 it looks like Rhodes Tower is still under construction which puts this at like 1972.
I’m 50 years old and it’s amazing how much if this is still recognizable in 2024. Great video! Great memories!
A great video. I miss the double track mainline through my hometown of Piqua, Ohio. It went from 40+ trains per day to being abandoned in 2 short years after a complete upgrade. Sadly. 😢
Fabulous time machine to the past!
It's refreshing to see no graffiti
Best one yet. Cherry on top was trackside views of Columbus Union Station. I assume that's The National Limited pulling out of Union Station. I don't know how many passenger trains visited Union Station, at that point, but read that the National was the last train in, and out before being permanently shuttered.
great Video! Thank you! The music makes you get deep with what was. Those switchmen and tower guys have all my respect. Throwing switches all day in all sorts of weather. The muck and grime had to be slippery. What a fantastic testimony of a greater era!
In my opinion , the US government ignored several of underlying causes of the failure of the PC merger, as well as the EL and several other roads. The ICC was an albatross hung on the necks of the rail industry. Had the Staggers act been proposed and passed by the late 1960s, there could have been a better chance of survival for PC. We could discuss all day the way the primarily NYC management selected winners and losers as far as core routes. Generally, the Pensey was the loser by Conrail time west of Pittsburgh and a big loser west of Columbus except for the section from Terre Haute to St.Louis. But, back to causes of failure besides poor leadership and the ICC, many local governments where any rail property was subject to taxation, rates were many times and many locations at a rate far in excess of the proportional value of the land. The video is great tho and appreciated. I grew up in Lima Ohio close to the EL mainline, but also saw plenty of PRR action as my mother helped at the serviceman’s canteen each month.
I had heard much of their Midwest trackage was limited to 10 mph and I can see the rocking!
Great footage!
My German ancestors were U.S. railroad people. Pennsylvania Railroad and Baltimore & Ohio are the ones I know about. My great Uncle Dick was on the practice squad for the Columbus Panhandlers. The 15-story white marble building with the greenish patina roof is the former State of Ohio Departments Building. It’s interesting to see the building that replaced it the Rhodes State Office Tower is shown here too. Today the white marble building is home to Supreme Court of Ohio and it’s named after the late Chief Justice Thomas J. Moyer. I wonder what those old timers thoughts when they looked up at their rail yard and watched at the interstate highway system was being built…wondering how it would change the way freight was shipped. Must’ve been an interesting time for them. Thank you for this video by the way.
Nice to see my home city, Columbus Ohio, as it once was, in all its wonderful glory!
Now it's all immigrants here killing each other.
@old_school_guy no they're not.
@@old_school_guy100% false.
True Railroading of the 70s and National Limited with brand new SDPs at the end
Wow... the grainy video, haunting music and it just being in the 70s gives it a surreal vibe. A friend of mine was an engineer on PC/Conrail between Buckeye and Pitcairn during this time. He had some crazy stories of the failings of the PC.
I came to columbus in the fall of 78. By then, most of this was gone, but not long gone. I used to hang out around US Tower and the Amshed depot. Its interesting to see what i barely missed. DB
Absolutely wonderful...all those poor cold switch tenders at US and Front St.
Great to see this footage!
That Chateau Martin reefer!!!
My grandfather Robert (Mike) Earley worked for the Pennsylvania Railroad for 43 years and retired as the Yard Master of Grogan Yard which is the freight yard that sat below the state fairgrounds.
A bit of a rail fan since the 80s. This was amazing to watch and see Columbus back then.Thank you
Wow! That track condition at 18:34 is something. Really bad. I like the old method of “trains move on a hand signal from the switchtender”. Gotta say that’s pretty cool 😎. I’ll bet that a real pain in the winter time with snow and ice and all those hand thrown switches.
The switchtender's shanties were heated, not that they were probably ever in them a lot during a shift.
I really enjoyed this video, it really took me back to that time... Stirring old memories bringing them back once again, much appreciated.
Thanks for sharing
Beautiful
Just fabulous documentation of a warmer time in railroading..And yet someday they'll look at videos of railroading back in 2024 and perhaps feel the same, that trains then were warmer, more charming then, than their, say, 2065 trains !!.... Yikes ! 17:33 - at least 19:21. Dat be some really bad track !!
No graffiti on the freight cars. To be fair, central Ohio in the 70s was actually in the 50s, culturewise.
Seeing those old F passenger engines takes me back to my childhood. And those Camaros @37:00... wonder how many are still running?
Those track side structures, the staggered signals, the weeds, the flag man, that slightly haunting melody going back to another time...where does it all live?
The Bradford Side 18 minutes in looks particularly bad. Lots of slow orders. Extraordinary footage and appropriately mournful music to go with it.
Cool video. I'm wondering about the person who had the foresight to film this. The camera he used. The lab that developed the film. The rattly projector it was first played on.
@@paulrickman7549 The was taken by Paul Geiger, who was a tower operator and fireman for PC while on furlough from the towers. I don't know what camera he used or the lab that processed it, but the film stock was Super8 Kodachrome. This was digitized on a Retro-8 from MovieStuff, which is no longer in business.
Funny how almost 60 years on, the Penn Central "mating worms" logo has aged so well as to look almost contemporary. Not so much for the Amtrak arrow thingy. The Rhodes tower and remaining Union Station smokestack frame the date pretty reliably. And those carloads of new Camaros, probably coming up from the Norwood, Ohio (Cincinnati) plant?
Those Camaros were probably model year 1974, so probably taken no earlier than late Summer 1973.
The weaving and bobing was in stretch from MOUNT CARMEL ILL. TO EVANSVILLE IN.back in the 70s.
Typical power for the SRCO was a PC SD40 and two SR SD24s. Here we have three SD24s. Never saw three of them.
Prior to Conrail's alpha symbols those were SOC-6 and OAC-7.
Seriously,,,how smart is it to advertise in bold letters,,,,,,here is the BOOZE!
I have never ever seen this on a RR car.
They were called BILLBOARD REFEERS. There used to be alot of them, as each company had its own colors and scheme. One of the nicest was for HAMM'S BEER.
Nice not seeing all the graffiti on the cars.
People used to have respect for other's property. Not anymore.
My understanding is that Buckeye Yard is nearly totally gone now, going to be redeveloped.
@@paulw.woodring7304 The last time I was in Columbus in May all the tracks were gone except the intermodal portion which isn't going anywhere.
Are these tracks still there or have they been ripped up
@@jmream2618 Have you looked at Google Maps or rail.guide of Columbus? It's much easier to seek out on a map.
I will say through what used to be Union Station there's only two tracks today. When the Convention Center was constructed in the late 70s the trackage through area was significantly rationalized.
F’s, U Boats, SD24’s…… they’re all here, but how they ever stayed on the rails was anybody’s guess! So sad that the majority of this stuff is long gone!
Any Bradford line footage west of Columbus?
@@mononc420 A little. Stay tuned.
Love the video. Just the music..so melancholy. Guess it fits though.
I feel like if only they could have gotten the tracks fixed, they might have been able to pull it together, but it is clear the way they wobble around, the tracks were aging, and they had no money to pay for fixing, kinda like the tires on my truck! Needs replacing, can't afford it, but gotta keep on movin.
I miss cabooses. 😢
Too bad the sound of the train can’t be heard
The quality and historical value of the video more than make up to me anyway
Notice the total LACK of grafitti
Southern 6325 20:44
Look at the dump crap. Houses
Its probably a good thing i didnt chase my boyhood passions. Had i gotten to be a conductor or engineer, id been fired on day one for hanging out of the cab trying to high 5 every conductor and engineer on the oncoming train
I remember as a kid seeing the yard engines switching cars around and reading trains for being sent to other parts of the country.
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