The "much awaited" "sequel" to A Brief Guide and Thoughts on Refraction Railway 2. This time with 75% less opinionated ranting interrupting the actual guide.
I really loved Spiral of Contempt as it's another "thematic Abno", which is perfected suited to being a Railway final boss. As the name implies, it's all about the way that contempt, looking down on another and seeing them as pathetic and not worthy of your attention, will lead to an ever worsening spiral where your contempt leads others to hate you, leading you in turn to view "such hateful and pathetic people" with even more contempt. It's MD event rewards you for not paying any attention to it, while punishing you for thinking poorly of it for being so full of contempt. During the fight, mechanically you are encouraged to allow one of the Sinners to become consumed by contempt, and then use their "friends" to help pull them out and recover, reflecting how lots of pessimistic emotional spirals are things that can't easily be overcome on your own, support from friends/family is essential to overcoming it. Seeing that someone could look at a person full of contempt, and want to save them instead of disparage them puts the Spiral off-guard, making it more fragile, and when it tries to gaze at you with contempt, you are given an event check. You don't gaze back with the contemptful gaze you selected, but rather communicate how that gaze felt to you, with winning the check making you able to successfully communicate how terrible it feels, making it even more vulnerable, while failing it makes you fail to communicate it and the Spiral dismisses your words entirely. It's such a good showcase of how an Abno can reflect a certain theme, and how the mechanics of the fight can support that theme in a strong way. You aren't just "fighting a monster that embodies a concept" that you win via beating it to death, you are using the actual methods to overcoming contempt in order to weaken the Abno and defeat it as well.
@@greyfaceofaxe I'm happy to have changed your opinion on it. Abnos are all horror monsters, so like any good horror monsters they are representations of some idea in a physical form, literally in this case considering their lore from Lobotomy Corp. I definitely agree it's a bit weak mechanically though, I really wish we could one day get back to the LoR-style "Battles that are actually puzzles, rather than "fights"" but that seems a bit unlikely. My Form Empties really spoiled us in that regard...
For those looking for encouragement: this RR is VERY DOABLE. I got sub 100 on my first attempt while dying to the final boss, but because you can just send in another squad, I was able to squeak in at 97 turns and grab my banner. Honestly, it might even be *too* easy, but that's a whole other can of worms. Don't be afraid to gun for the low turn count goal on this one.
I feel like this is actually pretty hard and decently long , but beacuse of how STUPIDLY long and annoyingly hard RR2 was it feels way less long and diffcult
@@notloopers1110 difficulty wise the biggest spike is opening up the passives tab or reading the effects of the bosses skills that and the final push through Pequod town
DAMN YOU FOR GASLIGHTING EVERYONE ON DISCORD INTO SEEING AN AMONGUS ON GOSSYPIUM'S CENTER WHEN YOU JUST PUT IT ON HIS TOP. I CAN'T UNSEE IT NOW. THE FAULT LIES WITH YOU ESGOO.
I still don’t see it. Where’s this amongus? Top left of the screen? Top left of the gossy? Top left corner? Does it appear for a brief second and disappear later?
If you light the candles, then put them all out (when all the candles have 20 shield hp and use a weak counter), instead of using 9:2, skin prophet will use 6:5, which doesn't do any damage to you. When he uses this attack, he also loses 20% of his max hp and gets staggered next turn. I feel like no one knows this. It's not even written in the passives.
This and Spiral are funny things because instead of passives they're from the observation logs. Unfortunately that still means you'd need to repeatedly beat them to fill the logs.
That's actually very interesting. The last time I ever AoE'd the candle was in MD3H with burn team so even the weak pierce, with all the boosts and fatal weakness, adds up to really strong damage and made me avoid ever using AoE again in that fight. Maybe it's best I try that again in non-MD setting where the pierce resist ID can easily eat all that.
True. It's a pretty neat lore detail that's rather fitting, as Outis said it can only recognize the Sinners with the candles lit, so by lighting them then snuffing them out again it gets confused and attacks itself in it's confusion. Though, it's rather poorly designed mechanically. Basically everything about the fight encourages NOT doing that. It gains massive resistances when all candles are not lit, so you want to keep them lit. When they are lit, they have counter skills that, even if weak, allow the boss to stack a ton of burn quite easily which you naturally want to avoid. The overall pattern of the fight clearly is designed around punishing careless use of AOE Ego, as when they are snuffed out the Prophet will hit you extremely hard with counters, and while they're active, a careless AOE ego will get 5 counters and an assload of burn. Having the hint being in the Abno Log entry is cool, but honestly most players won't bother to read it because that's "the lore", anything gameplay related is going to be in the skills or passive list. I think PM could easily fix it though by tweaking the Candle's passive list, making their Sinking Darkness passive add on "If all candles are snuffed out by attacks...". There aren't any cases of intentionally ambiguous passives in the game as far as I can tell, but back in LoR, there was a boss with a passive saying "If HP goes down to 50% or lower…", teasing a phase 2 without explicitly spelling out what would happen. So I think adding that "If X thing happens..." note would be a good way to lightly tease "Something interesting may happen", while it being kept in the Candle passive list rather than the Abno passive list would keep it still a bit of a secret.
Yep. The turn after lighting all the candles is a good time to use the AoE. Using it just to light them is a bit of a waste unless you're desperate to shave off 1 turn.
In my experience, the Attack Weight Manipulation trick works even when you drag the skills off of Skin Prophet, so long as you do not touch the ego once it is placed.
I think targets change when you swap a skill, either by pressing the guard button or by adding an ego. Moving skills around *should* be fine (just not the ego, of course).
Seconded. As long as you don't prepare another Ego or defense skill after the AOE Ego has it's targets set, you can move the skills to attack something else entirely. I did just that during the Skin Prophet fight to ensure even smaller AOE Egos would help by having the other Sinners target the candles not targeted by the Ego, while Sinners stuck with S1s could target the candles that might survive the AOE ego. It's a useful trick for basically any Abno fight that has more than 2-3 body parts. You can use it to ensure that the AOE doesn't end up hitting a body part that has counter, like against Fairy Long Legs, or against Abnos with an assload of body parts like Headless Icthyus or Ebony Apple it can let you make sure you hit the parts you want to hit either for damage or debuffs. It's also quite useful against Abnos with summons, like MD Papa Bongy, Ambling Pearl, or Drifting Fox.
A nice strategy i would reccomend for pequod trio is bringing ting tang hong lu (lvl 40, uptie 3/uptie 4 optional) One way to avoid all damage overall during focus fire after mark is to do the following : 1 - Ting tang hong lu must have 45 sanity 2 - Starbuck must have high sanity (and be on deaths door if possible) 3 - once Hong lu is marked, use dodge on starbuck, that way he will also have dodge active when ahab starts to whale on him. 4 - pray the 5% dosent fuck you over or starbuck decides you need to restart. WORTHY MENTIONS : - Hidden passive on ahab is not tied to stagger but when she reaches 50% or less HP, thats when the heal triggers and afterwards she can be killed. - Shank can end the fight much earlier because of its passive to reroll a coin and deal more damage on low hp targets. - This mention is not tied to pequod but to gasharpoon third phase : Dodging all of ahab first attacks somehow renders her defense null and void and making her use counter only once the entire fight onward, and after the first stagger if you dont manage to kill her when she is staggered, the clashes overall are much easier.
27:35 if you let starbuck live during queegqueeg phase, and if the prey mark unit is an evade unit (mainly cinqclair) you can make that unit evade starbuck and it will automatically evade ahab next
Honestly, I think Nsault is pretty damn good for this railway, even outside of hell segment. -Pierce resistance, high HP, and prot from Chains+Counter+Sunshower(opt.) allow him to eat the Ahab onslaught pretty well, as mentioned earlier -S3 into S2 drops a nasty bind and atk power down debuff, and even when you’re unable to activate the atk down, the bind is honestly on par with Yi Sang’s base EGO in terms of speed control. They even have good affinities for damage, though he admittedly won’t be leading the pack. -S1 sucks but you never have to use it because you can replace it with his counter…or his absurd EGO. -Chains of Others is as absurd of a “screw this guy’s next turn” tool as it’s always been. -Regret helps to patch up his lower clash power, uses resources you’re likely to have a ton of since Wrath and Pride are so effective, and clears negative status effects, letting him purge that pesky gossipium bleed, moth burn, and even Spiral’s Gaze if I remember right -HE is flexible: Pursuance is great healing but Capote is a godsend for any team running burn, with the absurd potency inflicted all in all, highly worth bringing, esp if you’re running any kind of burn. If you want to give him a try and don’t want to invest the resources, I have him as a support unit: N470975330. Give it a go!
Yeah, Nsault was my MVP, since I had N Don and Ncliff in my team I could always apply his skill 2 attack power down, and since I was running a hybrid burn team capote was a massive help (on top of its next turn haste and wrath and blunt power up being useful for making his skill 2 pop off,) and my team had a lot of wrath skills so the times I was in trouble I could activate his passive and get that 3 protection
I ran this a second time wth an NCorp team, for which I borrowed NSault because I don't have him. I was quite surprised at how good he is; even with those low clash values he doesn't really have trouble winning clashes.
@@schnozgaming989 WSault is the only launch ID I’m missing so take all this with a grain of (meur)salt. That said, while W corp clashes better and provides some nice defensive debuffs, he has a worse stagger threshold, worse HP, no Aggro gain, and doesn’t have access to the bind and attack debuff that NSault does, nor does he have access to NSault’s on-demand protection, which imo gives NSault the edge in this railway since there’s a need to manage unopposed enemy attacks.
Its worth mentioning for Ardor Blossom Moth that you can clip its wings the turn before it uses Ardor Blossom Star to remove its ember, thus reducing the number of wrath skills used and greatly reducing the risk This would require breaking the wings on turns 2,5,8, and so on, and is the only reason you might target the body for a bit if your DPS is low so you can break them on 5 if you miss doing it on turn 2
Imagine if PM add an update where you can visit previous Refraction Railways?! So for those players who didn't complete or didn't have a chance to try the previous Refraction Railways! I want this update to come true so that I can try the previous Railways because I didn't have a chance to complete them.
@@bestaround3323 nah i mean mechanically, even if their levels get raised, or our levels get lowered. It's design-creep, ID are just inherently stronger now
So, for my first run of this railway I decided to do something similar to your worst team for railway video, and went in with only base IDs for the entire railway. However I did not keep this restriction for Egos. For my team I had all of my base units up to level 40 and uptie 4, for my Egos I brought in a lot of healing and high rolling ones to help ease the difficulty a bit. Also before moving on to the fights I’d like to mention I was trying to do a deathless run, which made this railway substantially harder. But I did end up giving up on this requirement at the end, which I’ll explain why when we get there. Now for the Gossypium segment. The first two battles were a breeze, I had a little trouble with Siltcurrent but fluid sac helped keep my team healthy for drenched Gossypium. For the drenched Gossypium fight I had to restart a few times because I got unlucky and a few of my sinners died. After two tries though I was able to beat this fight without a single death. The main problem with this fight for me was the bleed, the bleed stacks weren’t bad at first but as the fight went on it just kept getting higher and higher. I had healing Ego to help with the bleed but I was trying to save some Ego resources for later fights so I used them sparingly. To give perspective on how high the bleed count and potency got for me, on my successful attempt of this fight my Ishmael was just blocking for the latter half of the fight because if she had just clashed once she would have bleed to death. Here are my turn statistics for this segment, Mermaids of the Porous Hand: 11 turns, Siltcurrent: 14 turns, Drenched Gossypium: 13 turns. For the ABM segment I had little to not trouble. Ambling Pearl and Skin Prophet were easy and good Ego resource farms. For Ardor Blossom Moth, it wasn’t as bad as I was expecting it to be. Granted I couldn’t clash with it much and I did have to restart this fight once because the burn got too bad. However on my second try I was more liberal with the amount of Egos I would use and I was able to beat it soon after. Overall I would say that this was the easiest segment of the entire railway. Here are the turn statistics for this segment, Ambling Pearl: 19 turns, Skin Prophet: 18 turns, Ardor Blossom Moth: 13 turns. Now for the Hell segment, and oh boy does it earn this name. The first fight of this segment was relatively easy. However the Pequod Trio is where I started to struggle hard. The first part of this fight was easy enough to get through, but when the Trio comes out that’s where the problems begin. As you can expect, what I struggled with the most was Queequeg’s assist defense ability, which single handedly ended multiple attempts. However after like 5 tries I was able to beat this fight without a single death. Though this wasn’t without its drawbacks. First of all, all of the sinners I brought to this fight were around half health when I finally beat it, and second I used up all of my Ego resources using Egos to heal my sinners. My best advice for this fight if you’re going to only use base ID’s is to get rid of Starbuck and get Ahab to her second phase as fast as possible, and then try to kill her as quickly as you can. Now moving on to the Gasharpoon fight. This fight was also hard, but not as hard as the previous one. My main struggle with this fight is with her third phase, where she gains shield and uses her counter multiple times. Due to the lack of Ego resources I couldn’t use Egos often in this fight, and for the life of me I couldn’t get rid of her shield. Often leading to me having multiple sinners staggered from her counter. However after like 3 attempts I was able to save enough Ego resources to break her shield consistently enough to take her down. By far this segment was the hardest out of the three, not only did I have to restart certain fights over and over again but I wasted almost all of my Ego resources trying to beat them. This lack of Ego resources becomes a major problem for the terminus station, but I’ll talk about it when we get there. Anyway here are my turn statistics for this segment, Pallidified Things and Mermaids: 18 turns, Pequod Trio: 12 turns, Gasharpoon: 27 turns. Finally we get to the Terminus Station. This fight single handedly broke me and made me give up on trying to complete this railway deathless. Spiral of Contempt in my opinion was the hardest fight in this run by far, not because its mechanics were hard. In fact I’d say it’s easier than the Pequod Trio and Gasharpoon. No, the main reason why I rank this as the hardest fight is the sheer amount of time and focus this fight took out of me. Spiral of Contempt’s resistances were a large part of that but also its All-beholding Gaze passive. In fact it’s that exact passive that made me give up on a deathless run. Let me explain, overall it took me two attempts to beat it with the first one mainly being about figuring out its skills and mechanics. On my second/successful attempt I took this fight more seriously. For the first half of the fight I tried clashing when I could and used defensive skills to beat skills I couldn’t clash with. Due to the previous fights I couldn’t use Ego that often to win clashes or to heal my team when the sinners health became low. The main part that broke me however was when I got it below 30% of its Max HP. This activated its All-beholding Gaze passive which compounds both SP and HP damage over time onto your sinners. It’s especially that SP damage that screwed me over as I couldn’t take down Spiral of Contempt fast enough. I would also like to remind you of the fact that I had little to no Ego resources meaning I couldn’t burst it down with Ego nor heal the SP lost consistently. This resulted to my sinners corroding and killing each other and a few turns later all six of my sinners had died. By the time I was defeated I had spent around 30 minutes to an hour on this attempt and I was seriously contemplating whether or not to continue on with my other sinners or to just try again. Ultimately you know what I chose, I gave up on my deathless run and I continued the fight with the rest of the sinners. Luckily the hands were near staggering and Spiral of Contempt was nearly dead, so all I had to do was be fast enough to stagger the hands and focus it down. After a couple of turns I was able to stagger the hands and finally kill Spiral of Contempt. This attempt was so near to failure that one extra turn could have meant death and repeating this fight all over again, and I’m not sure if I had the strength to do that all over again. The turn when I killed Spiral of contempt, my sinners were near corroding and I was seriously panicking on whether or not I’ll be able to kill it. But when I finally saw its health reach zero a wave of relief and excitement flooded my brain. Overall this fight took me 40 TURNS to complete. FOURTY TURNS!!!!!!!! My god, I didn’t expect this fight to take so long but I made it through at least. Anyway adding up all the turns this run took me 185 turns to complete total. I hope my run helps you and gives you some perspective on how your worst teams for railway 3 run will be. Can’t wait to see that video.
Im really late to the party but thanks for making this video and the railway 3 with worst team video. It made possible for me to do RR3 as a complete noob with only 15 days of account. Will keep following your videos for Limbus Company content.
Well, you finally convinced me to buckle down and finish my Railway run. Finished with exactly 100 turns, and just in time for my birthday!🎉 Now to never touch this again until the next line
The actual Ahab strat I used, as a noted non coward, is to just dodge tank all the attacks. This DOES require keeping Starbuck alive, as you will need to actually target clash to trigger your dodge (found this one out the hard way in the pre nerf dungeon), but if you have 45 SP it's not that unlikely to just eat every Ahab and Starbuck attack, and get to focus on Queequeg and Ahab. I like it mostly because it is funny, and also that it's a lot more flexible, and you should honestly be bringing a lot of dodge units into the fight anyways, so if you had to support for W Don, don't worry, she can also help you tank Ahab if you need her to.
There is actually another method to evade: Target one of Queequeg's defence skills with your marked sinner's evade and then have another sinner use their defence skill on it to override it's targeting, now Queequeg will be the one with an offset defence skill and your evade will become a one-sided evade, which will now work. This not only has the obvious advantage of Starbuck not having to be alive, but Ahab's skills will effectively have one less coin to dodge without Starbuck's support.
@@solaariel2692 I'm pretty sure that doesn't work either, no? Since Queequeg is usually slower than Ahab, you'll intend to clash with Quee, but get hit by about 8 billion stabs before the redirected Queequeg attack comes in. The reason why you keep Starbuck alive is because he is consistently faster than Ahab and thus able to "trigger" your dodge which will get reused and reused
@@NeoBoneGirl Queequeg's speed shouldn't matter, a one-sided evade isn't clashing with anything and thus doesn't have have to wait for an enemy attack. Leaving Starbuck alive just means that the marked sinner has more attacks to dodge (although it does save one sinner an action).
@@solaariel2692 well this didn't work. I targeted queepegs blue shield with marked prey's defense skill first (offset), then another ally's defense skill (which turned the former into one-sided evade). but it didn't work.
As a man with a 69 turn clear (nice), this Railway is VERY lenient on the special banner. Even without envy nukers, it's possible to get as low as 70+ turns with not a lot of optimization if you just play the fights well and aren't greedy with your EGO usage. The only reset heavy RNG place is the Hell Segment as ESGOO called it, otherwise it's smooth sailing (pun potentially intended). Anything sub 70 is when things start to get into really high optimization.
For those who still worries: I got 91 turns on first day without switching team and only change one member. (Der Outis is not very good outside burn team) And yes, I didn't know getting grasp helps you. I also didn't die on Ahab 1... somehow. Generally, 5clair and Queecliff are very helpful during this fight, with Lantern being HP heal and Sunyata being SP heal. I straight up heal over Gossypium and Moth fight, I didn't even evade the Gossypium's skills because I was a dumbass.
One more thing I want to mention in favour of Queecliff against the Pequod Trio: Ya Sunyata and AEDD. Ya Sunyata's passive will both increase his max HP and heal Heathcliff after recovering from stagger, and since we want to stagger him on purpose anyways we may as well. AEDD grants Charge based on his missing HP and it's passive heals him every time he gets hit for a small amount in exchange for Charge Count, although it's only useful if he needs to tank a second beating it's still worth pointing out if one can't kill Ahab fast enough.
AEDD also just fuels itself when below 40% hp, making him very consistently tanky below that point, because every hit received also just heals him unconditionally for nearly 6hp
I didn’t have an optimal team and I still don’t have a lot of ego, but managing to get through all the railway regardless was so satisfying, also seven Ryoshu with red eyes (open) saved my run at the stupid moth fight because that was the only ego I had that could consistently clash the thing.
Great video ESGOO! Tho I have a small thing to say for ahab fights. Idk why people forget that Roseate Desire Ishmael exists as it literally turns Ahab into useless unit,and especially during counter phase in Gaslight stage you can just throw Horny Ish and Chain of Others and now even units which are fatal to pierce don't take any damage. P.S. Thank you for throwing NMeur as possible unit against Ahab,now I don't feel as insane using him with 9 protection funnies.
I used it after getting screwed by terrible speed/targeting luck on Ambling Pearl, and was shocked to realize Pink Ribbons triggers on EVERY clash, not just Ishmael's. It's one of, if not the best passive in the game
I felt like the changes from RR2 to RR3 were quite good. The ability, with the rest stops, to sacrifice Sinners more tactically, was a good one (Even though I basically didn't end up doing so), and being able to change loadout made it a bit more engaging in that way. It also meant the individual fights could be more brutal, rather than having the railway just be attrition. That said, I wonder if it was perhaps a bit *too* easy? Or the turn target should have been lowered. I got 99 turns on my first go, and I wasn't resetting or anything for turns. (The animated banners and whatnot look really good, though.) The main note I also have, about first fight, is a reminder you can sorta chain killing the mermaids, since one dying deals ten damage to all the rest. It's very handy. And if memory serves, you can use Evades to mess up Ahab's one sided attacks, instead of just tanking them. Additionally, I found both 'Iron Locust' and 'I've already pushed the envelope so hard I could be a professional mailman' rather amusing. Going forward, I think there's really two things I'd want from railways. -I think it'd be nice to still be able to fiddle about in the old ones, even with no rewards -Could you imagine RR2 with E.G.O. gifts? That'd be fun. Some weird merger between RR2 and a Mirror dungeon, just see how far you could go, basically.
Great video, only slight correction is Phase 2 of Ahab the Pequod Trio fight happens when she's under 50% HP, not the first Stagger threshold (around 60% HP). In most cases this won't matter at all but one run I managed to hit that "sweetspot" and it messed up my timing for that particular attempt
I feel called out on ABM.... look I wanted to test funny Ishy... so imagine my surprise when I walk in to ABM, my Yuri Faust at 2hp, the 3 Pequod, and 2 Middles being an average of 30hp between them all, with barely 4 Gloom resource, and 50+pride and envy resources, and then seeing funny burn moth go brr.... that was hell and a half. Don't ask me how I won. I blocked that memory permanently
Did the entire railway this time with a full rupture team. 7 Outis, Faust and Heath, Lantern Don, Kong Lu, and Warp Yi Sang. Between the passives on ebony stem and Ys Sang's lost passenger, was able to maintain pretty high rupture counts on most of the single target fights, and Kong Lu was a real help in pumping the potency. Would really recommend this team if people are struggling.
As someone who did all of this railway with a burn team (Shootis, Liu Ish, Nclair/Cinqlair for trio fight evade tank, Liu Meur, Liu Gregor and Liu Hong on bench) the trio and Ahab were easily the HARDEST fights. Having a whole team of IDs weak to pierce (besides Outis and Cinqlair as a swap for evade tanking while keeping Starbuck alive, and Queequeg is weak to blunt so staggering her breaks assist attack too) was absolutely painful on these fights, and I eventually had to let Gregor die on the trio and meur die on Gasharpoon due to bad speed rolls. I was essentially FORCED to swap to Cinqlair to even remotely have a chance of clearing the trio, and Gasharpoon was basically a brick wall since during the counter phase you were constantly get units staggered and completely fail on damage vs the shield. It was still very comfortably doable at 85 turns on first try for me, with a bunch of fight resets and 1 rewind on the 2nd quarter because of bad HP management and a particularly bad run on skin prophet, but this railway overall is definitely much looser on the time constraint than RR2 and RR1 were. Overall, very happy with this railway and the new bosses are super fun and interesting to play against. ABM was a super fun fight even though it was a bunch of reading, Gossypium was easy enough to just burn down, and Spiral was a very interesting mechanic that gives a lot of freedom and options to a variety of teams. And I particularly enjoyed having the waves to build up ego resources, passives, and buff stacks on before going into the harder waves (though that is unfortunately another reason burn suffered quite a bit)
Good video, definitely will be using this as a reference for my low clear run. One thing I would like to add though is that I felt you really undersold N Corp Mersault, I believe he’s significantly better than K Corp Hong Lu. His clash powers are initially pathetic (only 7-14 assuming all heads), but by engaging with his skill 1 gimmick while under the Regret EGO passive you can ramp it up to a respectable 14-17. Also his skill 1 & 3 are pierce so his damage ends up being respectable. As for his skill 2, its alright enough against queequeg since blunt. And for what its worth, I ran N Corp Mersault myself for my first run because I wanted to keep my Pequod Heathcliff at stupidly low HP, so it has my personal vouch too.
About who i used to tank ahab with in the pequod fight, i actually used G gregor. While his stagger bars are high, the fight before gives you time to hit them and heal, and since g gregor's hp is so low, he will get the buffs from fluid sac. Combine thia with his inate healing, pierce resistance and AEDD making him resistant to envy, and you have an OK tank for 1 round of ahab damage. You can then heal gregor fairly easy using ego and his healing.
An alternative strat for the pequod Trio is, first you're gonna want to bring Molar Ish and a few more good IDs with evade skills. Second DO NOT kill Starbuck, just have someone evade his attacks and try your best to ignore him without taking too much damage, as long as he's not staggered during the assist attack turn you should be alright. Third, have Molar Ish get the prey mark. During the assist attack turn, have Molar ish Evade Starbuck, as he will be the fastest of the trio, and you can actually target Starbuck during the assist attack turn. You use Molar ish, because her evade has a floor of 10, so even on a tails roll with that evade it's not a guarantee that you'll eat the rest of the attacks. This is probably less consistent than the 3 tank strats outlined in this video, and you can technically us any ID with a half decent evade for this, it's just that Molar ish is probably the most consistent due to the aforementioned floor of 10
One other strategy for the Pequod Trio that I rarely see talked about is for the Mark Prey sinner to use evade. This may appear impossible as you can't target Ahab and using an evade vs one of Queequeg's defensive skills will cause it to be offset and thus not work, but there is a way around it. Target one of Queequeg's defence skills with your marked sinner's evade and then have another sinner use their defence skill on it instead, now Queequeg will be the one with an offset defence skill and your evade will become a one-sided evade, which will now work. You can also use Starbucks attacks for this purpose as he is always faster than Ahab, but that has the obvious disadvantage of him still being alive. This probably isn't the best tactic, as hitting that 5% change on an evade can easily be a reset, but it can work for those who don't have any good tanking options (or ESGOO on his worst team possible run).
I just didn't stagger starbuck the previous turn so that I could dodge his attacks as he was faster than ahab, using my one and only W ryoshy and then she dodged all of ahab's attacks
I used cinq outis to dodge ahabs unopposed attacks. If you keep starbuck alive you can evade him which carries over to ahabs attacks. Yeah theres a 5% chance for evade to hit tails but luck is a skill! Also its hillarious watching Ahab deal no damage.
About alternative forms of tanking ahab's attacks in the trio fight, my friend left starbuck alive so he could evade starbuck's attacks and have the evade recycle into ahab's one sided attack later, which was a really crackhead move that required a lot of rng but eventually worked for him. He used Cinq Outis for that
Something I recently learned by accident in my latest Mirror Dungeon run is that if all the candles are out before The Skin Prophet tries to use 9:2 it will use a nasty unclashable move called 6:5. Too bad all that damage goes to the prophet though.
Fun fact! If you are a slowpoke at killing starbucks and ahab WILL target someone with prey mark, give it to someone with a strong evade [i used w yi sang at the moment] and target starbuck's attack with his evade, it does not matter if he gets staggered same turn, cause now the character will actively evade ahab's attacks and take 0 damage [i was flabbergasted when i tried this out, this railway REALLY likes evade.
I remember losing the 5% clash to Ardor Blossom Moth. 5 times. In a row. -45 sanity to me instantly The run I won was somehow with Umbrella Heathcliff and Puddle Stomp. A cool thing I discovered is that you can activate his sinking quite easily with the unclashable skill, it deals no damage but still hits you putting him in a comfortable sanity range to just nuke the moth
Something that I didn't see you mention, and as I haven't done the railway I'm not sure if it still holds. But at least in the canto v dungeon and hmd, skin prophet, after a couple turns will reset his candles and attack with 9:2 a very powerful attack. But if you reset the candles yourself by breaking their shields, it will instead use 6:5, a powerful, unclashable attack that it hits itself with. It will apply a bunch of burn and reduce it's max hp by 20 percent and stagger itself. This fact saved my hmd run and made the close out very easy.
There's a very funny interaction with Ahab's onslaught I remember from doing the Canto fight. Not sure if it still works for the Railway though, or if it's even viable to try to do this, but I figured it was worth mentioning. Basically, if you somehow manage to break through Queequeg's shield with your highest speed units, your lower speed units (provided they still have higher speed than Ahab) will be able to redirect Ahab's attacks if you targeted her slots with them.
Smallest little tip, but in case you lack egos or skills to clash consistently in high clashing attacks, Meursault's base EGO is your best friend. Seriously. It handicaps so many strong attacks and makes them little to no threat, just time the ego correctly and you should be fine. If your Meursault is fast it's even better! Because in case you forgot to ego in the previous turn, he can move first and then handicap the enemy the same way!
Don't forget that it's better to facetank the first Blind Ob on unit that can tank/handle stagger like Pequod Daddycliff rather than losing it on a very important unit that will eat a lot of debuffs, get staggered, potentially killed, I kinda have extremely garbage ass luck as to rolling against blind ob, because depending comps, saving EGO resources for Gossy is way more vital than throwing those to survive first BO. That had given me the best performances so far.
Something I did to deal with Ahab and crew was leave Starbuck alive and use Cinq Outis to evade like crazy since Starbuck usually has higher speed than Ahab. Took a few tries doing that strat but it worked
i've seen people saying gasharpoon starts from phase one when you go back into the fight with new sinners, but if anything that was changed. from the time of writing, most comments / this video are 3 weeks old; i've been stuck on gasharpoon for about 4 hours now, playing tonight (2:50 AM god help me) and safe to say she starts from the phase you left off with her health remaining. shield mechanic gets reset too. 30 queequeg's ego, full shield and reset attack rotation, but 81 hp, for example. done this about three times so it's consistent! (yes im in pain and agony)
You can also briefly evade tank pequod trio. Starbuck always speedrolls higher than ahab (unless he's binded) so your preymarked unit can target starbuck and evade ahab's followup attacks. Not a sustainable strategy because starbuck has to die eventually, but gives you breathing room for the first cycle and an opportunity to damage quequeg.
I vividly remember my normal mode Ahab fight being incredibly stupid. And god, I want to be able to mimic that in my first clear of the railway. I used Chains of Others repeatedly because I had enough EGO points to use it every turn, and by the end of it I had 5 (one died) of my team members alive while one of them was just my level 22 Base LCB Meursault with no EGO and just Chains of Others, spamming that shit on Ahab and somehow still managing to win clashes. What a boss.
Fun fact: gasharpoons phases reset when you refight her with your last few sinners. Meaning you’ll have to go through all 3 phases and 2 revives she has.
This video was a bunch of help haha. Pequod trio was kicking my ass and I was getting annoyingly unlucky with the Moth. I had to borrow a friends Outis for the twitter guy and lighting those candles made the fight a joke. I really really need to get myself some egos cause rn I have no healing ego making this just that bit harder haha. Barely managed to kill the spiral, my main team had died and my Zwei Gregor had barely any health and everyone on my backup team was dead. Spiral had 1 HP and I had to target an evade and on the last coin the attack went off and I BARELY won. If that coin missed the fight would've been lost.
Another thing for using Ncorp Meur to tank Ahab, instead of using your counter for a +1 prot, If you have not bricked your account, TS1 or TS2 screwloose wallop is a better choice as it give you an additional 3 prot as well as ineffective Pride resistance. This makes NMeur easily eat Ahab's attacks and then before she does her Prey Mark again, you can heal NMeur through Pursuance or any other healing EGO.
I went in blind for the 1st 3 days and I didn't know about being able to go back to the health stops. I fully reset over 40 times just because of the Ardor Blossom Moth. When someone told me I didn't have to full reset my run I actually felt sick.
Cleared RR3 in 83 turns in a fully blind run without much thinking and time tweaking with W Sang, 7 Faust, Ting Tang Hong Lu (haven't got the Dieci one), Harpooner Hearth, Sinqclair (oh god, he's op...), Pirate Gregor, Boolet Outis, Captain Ishmael and W Don. I know that I mentioned more than 6, but yeah. I had to swap my team a bit due to Ahab Incident. RR3 was great, a lot more fun and less annoying. Project Moon did a great job tweaking the annoyance without reducing the difficulty.
About Mass Attack manipulation as far as I know, once you select the targets, it doesn't change at all unless you update the dashboard, and that is done by activating or dismissing EGOs and Defensive Skills so if you want to manipulate the entire board, you first need to settle on what you will use in regards to that and activate the pertinent EGOs and defensive skills beforehand My information could be outdated because PM's famous pasta: the Spaghetti code
I did the ahab fight with cinq outis as my tank. the strategy is quite different, somewhat luck reliant because of the nature of dodge and very specific in what you want to achieve every turn but the reward is that you do the fight with cing outis not even going below half health and finishing the fight in about 9~12 turns if you do it right. so the long explanation: turn1: clash with everyone and stagger starbuck BUT DON'T KILL HIM. turn2 : ignore starbuck, focus on ahab , cinq outis should be the one with prey mark on her, ahab should be staggered or in phase 2 by the next turn turn3 : make cinq outis dodge the low rolling attack from starbuck clash with the high rolling ones he should be staggered for the next turn. break queequeg's shield . turn4: K I L L A H A B . if ahab is still alive then you have to repeat but she will likely be dead in the 2nd turn of the cycle.
4:08 Can I also add N Mersault as an option? Saved my bacon on my first shot at the third segment. I did not have any good way of handling Assist Attack/Assist Defence, and had to redo that section with N Mersault to act as a full body tank. He also meshes well with N Faust's nails, since that lets his S2 inflict some strength down, and he has the only defence skill that can actually respond to Ahab's one-sided assault, because it gives him protection on turn start, versus "on use", which never happens, because neither Ahab nor Queegqueeg are going to directly attack him.
after rechecking, some of notable Base Power EGO: Sinclair - 9:2 26 Heathcliff - Telepole 33 Ishmael - Roseate Desire 29 Rodion - 4th Match Flame 38 hope this helps anyone out there
A strat that I used for Pequod Trio that completely goes against this video entirely is to not even touch Starbuck and focus on Queequeg with lots of blunt attacks (NClair, Regret Faust, Dieci Rodya and Middle Don all work wonders here) and then when Ahab applies Prey mark you clash with a high evade ID like Tingtang or Cinq Outis against Starbuck since he will always go before Ahab. Once Queequeg is dead (which is very easy once you break her shield the first time around) you can nuke Ahab regardless of who she's targeting, and honestly you can just ignore Starbuck since the fight ends when Ahab dies Then there is of course the strat I used for Spiral of Contempt which is a) a bad idea to replicate and b) very funny, which was to run bleed, tank unopposed attacks with Oomfiecliff and Rhino, and then have my entire team die except Hook Lu in the very last turn. True damage go brr, but just use rupture, bleed is finicky at best (very satisfying to see it go from 240 health to 0 against a single staggered sinner though)
My strategy for dealing with the pequod trio was actually leaving Starbuck alive or at least unstaggered when ahab does her assist defend thing or whatever it's called then use a evade unit that got marked, evade on Starbuck then they will evade on ahab as well, I used cinq outis for this. It took forever though because i was stupid and just focused my attacks on queequeg, when I should have done so with ahab
When it came to tanking Ahab in the pequod trio fight, I (albeit accidentally) tanked the entire fight using molar ishmael. Turns out if you use blind obsession to make her resistant to everything ahab does and use evade to evade everything qq does... you just never take damage above 20 per coin, which from what I remember, barely brought her above first stagger (might be remembering wrong though to be fair)
Rupture/Sinking can be used to cheese the ABS part as well, and I do prefer ruptue because it consumes way less ego resources (rimeshank spam can get fairly expensive). It is quite reroll heavy for sure, but it saved me the pressure of feeling as if I needed to optimize hard when doing part 3 and I got sub 100 anyway even if my peq trio fight took more turns than the abs area lmao.
You mention disliking gaze be the same thing as faust, but given how this abnormality is, I kinda think its a N.Corp Adjacent Abno, given the "shall" theme
Harpooner might be the better choice over Rabbit for Ahab, but both IDs resist pierce and envy. I used sunshower for the protection and my Rabbit survived with a good 88 health, even after getting marked twice.
If you want to go even faster against the clam…. Just ignore clashing and hit the pearl! If the clam doesn’t stagger anyone, then you can kill it in about 2-3 turns ^^
I love how I beat the Gossypium part with NFaust no Fluid Sack and TingTang Hong Lu lmao. I had no healing other than Base Don EGO(used very sparingly) and Wingbeat (used like, once on DDS and once on Gossypium). Literally just spam evade and you're alright lololol. (My team was: -Middle Don (Base+Wishing Cairn) -R Ishmael (Base(never used)+Wingbeat) -Tingtang Hong Lu (Base(Also never used)) -Nfaust (Base+Hex Nail+Telepole) -Cinq Sinclair (I refuse to use his base ego. I love Sinclair but that base EGO is dogshit.) -Kurokumo Gregor (Base+Bygone Days)) (Noone is wondering, but yes I have Dieci Hong Lu. I just don't want to deal with the insight mechanics and thus decided on Tingtang even though I knew about the 0.2 damage on Gossypium thing)
Ykw, shout out to Branch of Knowledge on Cinq Sinclair for rolling 30 (14+15+Declared Duel) and beating ABStar twice and chipping off 2 coins for that one time it decided to be silly and rolled tails on the last stretch. I will admit it's an alright substitute for if you don't have a WAW ego and need to clash ABS.
Surprised Telepole Heathcliff wasn’t mentioned during the Ahab/Harpooncliff Discussion, dropping envy resists from 0.75x to 0.5x and Pride resist from 1x to 0.75x when compared to bodysack.
I used W Corp Meursault for the Pequod crew fight, with him being the tank and using Chain of Others on Ahab which reduced her damage to almost nothing. Although my W Corp Meursault was ut4
Great idea, swapping out Rabbit for QQ... not. Quick Suppression speeds up the fight against Ahab by a lot, allowing you to stagger Ahab first turn if you get lucky, basically removing the most annoying mechanic of the fight. Molar Ishmael is probably best for the Ahab fight, you can easily set her up to inflict 3 fragile next turn. Combine that with Quick Suppression and you'll deal ridiculous damage. More luck-dependent, but there's a fair amount of luck involved with tanking Ahab as well, since aggro is basically just RNG as well.
16:56 then you also can re-target every other skill. just don't forget to NOT target the slot aoe ego is targeting, if that happens, it will redo the targeting and completely flip everything up
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Oh, this derranged Limbus guy is gonna rant for 17 hours...
i like it
I'm going to play this video for 17 hours straight
Hmmm based
Don’t worry, he is here to be as brief as possible this time
I really loved Spiral of Contempt as it's another "thematic Abno", which is perfected suited to being a Railway final boss. As the name implies, it's all about the way that contempt, looking down on another and seeing them as pathetic and not worthy of your attention, will lead to an ever worsening spiral where your contempt leads others to hate you, leading you in turn to view "such hateful and pathetic people" with even more contempt.
It's MD event rewards you for not paying any attention to it, while punishing you for thinking poorly of it for being so full of contempt. During the fight, mechanically you are encouraged to allow one of the Sinners to become consumed by contempt, and then use their "friends" to help pull them out and recover, reflecting how lots of pessimistic emotional spirals are things that can't easily be overcome on your own, support from friends/family is essential to overcoming it. Seeing that someone could look at a person full of contempt, and want to save them instead of disparage them puts the Spiral off-guard, making it more fragile, and when it tries to gaze at you with contempt, you are given an event check. You don't gaze back with the contemptful gaze you selected, but rather communicate how that gaze felt to you, with winning the check making you able to successfully communicate how terrible it feels, making it even more vulnerable, while failing it makes you fail to communicate it and the Spiral dismisses your words entirely.
It's such a good showcase of how an Abno can reflect a certain theme, and how the mechanics of the fight can support that theme in a strong way. You aren't just "fighting a monster that embodies a concept" that you win via beating it to death, you are using the actual methods to overcoming contempt in order to weaken the Abno and defeat it as well.
ok so i killed it in like 5 turns by abusing rupture what does that say about me
It means you ignored its contempt and instead started to just smack some sense into it.@@notloopers1110
@@notloopers1110 nice, i killed it in the same amount with sinking hell yeah
You literally redeemed this abno in my eyes.
Still need a little rework, too easy not just ignore gimmick, but to miss it fully.
@@greyfaceofaxe I'm happy to have changed your opinion on it. Abnos are all horror monsters, so like any good horror monsters they are representations of some idea in a physical form, literally in this case considering their lore from Lobotomy Corp.
I definitely agree it's a bit weak mechanically though, I really wish we could one day get back to the LoR-style "Battles that are actually puzzles, rather than "fights"" but that seems a bit unlikely. My Form Empties really spoiled us in that regard...
For those looking for encouragement: this RR is VERY DOABLE. I got sub 100 on my first attempt while dying to the final boss, but because you can just send in another squad, I was able to squeak in at 97 turns and grab my banner. Honestly, it might even be *too* easy, but that's a whole other can of worms. Don't be afraid to gun for the low turn count goal on this one.
I had a scuffed as fuck final push I went from 54 turns to 84 to 97 at terminus
I got 116 even though I took forever on ABM and Spiral of Contempt. I might even try to get sub 100 eventually.
I feel like this is actually pretty hard and decently long , but beacuse of how STUPIDLY long and annoyingly hard RR2 was it feels way less long and diffcult
@@notloopers1110 difficulty wise the biggest spike is opening up the passives tab or reading the effects of the bosses skills that and the final push through Pequod town
I didn't find RR2 to be hard at all either. Long, yes, but there was no question about beating it eventually.@@notloopers1110
DAMN YOU FOR GASLIGHTING EVERYONE ON DISCORD INTO SEEING AN AMONGUS ON GOSSYPIUM'S CENTER WHEN YOU JUST PUT IT ON HIS TOP. I CAN'T UNSEE IT NOW. THE FAULT LIES WITH YOU ESGOO.
Ah, schizophrenia, just as koishi ordered...
there isnt?
@@coinpofferCheck 10:44, gossy's section. He put an among us on its top left.
@@Koezari will hook my eyes out
I still don’t see it. Where’s this amongus? Top left of the screen? Top left of the gossy? Top left corner? Does it appear for a brief second and disappear later?
If you light the candles, then put them all out (when all the candles have 20 shield hp and use a weak counter), instead of using 9:2, skin prophet will use 6:5, which doesn't do any damage to you. When he uses this attack, he also loses 20% of his max hp and gets staggered next turn. I feel like no one knows this. It's not even written in the passives.
This and Spiral are funny things because instead of passives they're from the observation logs.
Unfortunately that still means you'd need to repeatedly beat them to fill the logs.
i INFACT do not :(
That's actually very interesting. The last time I ever AoE'd the candle was in MD3H with burn team so even the weak pierce, with all the boosts and fatal weakness, adds up to really strong damage and made me avoid ever using AoE again in that fight. Maybe it's best I try that again in non-MD setting where the pierce resist ID can easily eat all that.
True. It's a pretty neat lore detail that's rather fitting, as Outis said it can only recognize the Sinners with the candles lit, so by lighting them then snuffing them out again it gets confused and attacks itself in it's confusion.
Though, it's rather poorly designed mechanically. Basically everything about the fight encourages NOT doing that. It gains massive resistances when all candles are not lit, so you want to keep them lit. When they are lit, they have counter skills that, even if weak, allow the boss to stack a ton of burn quite easily which you naturally want to avoid. The overall pattern of the fight clearly is designed around punishing careless use of AOE Ego, as when they are snuffed out the Prophet will hit you extremely hard with counters, and while they're active, a careless AOE ego will get 5 counters and an assload of burn.
Having the hint being in the Abno Log entry is cool, but honestly most players won't bother to read it because that's "the lore", anything gameplay related is going to be in the skills or passive list. I think PM could easily fix it though by tweaking the Candle's passive list, making their Sinking Darkness passive add on "If all candles are snuffed out by attacks...". There aren't any cases of intentionally ambiguous passives in the game as far as I can tell, but back in LoR, there was a boss with a passive saying "If HP goes down to 50% or lower…", teasing a phase 2 without explicitly spelling out what would happen. So I think adding that "If X thing happens..." note would be a good way to lightly tease "Something interesting may happen", while it being kept in the Candle passive list rather than the Abno passive list would keep it still a bit of a secret.
Yep. The turn after lighting all the candles is a good time to use the AoE. Using it just to light them is a bit of a waste unless you're desperate to shave off 1 turn.
In my experience, the Attack Weight Manipulation trick works even when you drag the skills off of Skin Prophet, so long as you do not touch the ego once it is placed.
I think targets change when you swap a skill, either by pressing the guard button or by adding an ego. Moving skills around *should* be fine (just not the ego, of course).
Seconded. As long as you don't prepare another Ego or defense skill after the AOE Ego has it's targets set, you can move the skills to attack something else entirely. I did just that during the Skin Prophet fight to ensure even smaller AOE Egos would help by having the other Sinners target the candles not targeted by the Ego, while Sinners stuck with S1s could target the candles that might survive the AOE ego.
It's a useful trick for basically any Abno fight that has more than 2-3 body parts. You can use it to ensure that the AOE doesn't end up hitting a body part that has counter, like against Fairy Long Legs, or against Abnos with an assload of body parts like Headless Icthyus or Ebony Apple it can let you make sure you hit the parts you want to hit either for damage or debuffs. It's also quite useful against Abnos with summons, like MD Papa Bongy, Ambling Pearl, or Drifting Fox.
Thirding this, I've been manipulating the targeting then removing the other skills for a long time.
@@Late0NightPCSo, basically you're like placing the skill from other sinners then do the E.G.O last? I'm kinda lost.
A nice strategy i would reccomend for pequod trio is bringing ting tang hong lu (lvl 40, uptie 3/uptie 4 optional)
One way to avoid all damage overall during focus fire after mark is to do the following :
1 - Ting tang hong lu must have 45 sanity
2 - Starbuck must have high sanity (and be on deaths door if possible)
3 - once Hong lu is marked, use dodge on starbuck, that way he will also have dodge active when ahab starts to whale on him.
4 - pray the 5% dosent fuck you over or starbuck decides you need to restart.
WORTHY MENTIONS :
- Hidden passive on ahab is not tied to stagger but when she reaches 50% or less HP, thats when the heal triggers and afterwards she can be killed.
- Shank can end the fight much earlier because of its passive to reroll a coin and deal more damage on low hp targets.
- This mention is not tied to pequod but to gasharpoon third phase : Dodging all of ahab first attacks somehow renders her defense null and void and making her use counter only once the entire fight onward, and after the first stagger if you dont manage to kill her when she is staggered, the clashes overall are much easier.
27:35 if you let starbuck live during queegqueeg phase, and if the prey mark unit is an evade unit (mainly cinqclair) you can make that unit evade starbuck and it will automatically evade ahab next
Honestly, I think Nsault is pretty damn good for this railway, even outside of hell segment.
-Pierce resistance, high HP, and prot from Chains+Counter+Sunshower(opt.) allow him to eat the Ahab onslaught pretty well, as mentioned earlier
-S3 into S2 drops a nasty bind and atk power down debuff, and even when you’re unable to activate the atk down, the bind is honestly on par with Yi Sang’s base EGO in terms of speed control. They even have good affinities for damage, though he admittedly won’t be leading the pack.
-S1 sucks but you never have to use it because you can replace it with his counter…or his absurd EGO.
-Chains of Others is as absurd of a “screw this guy’s next turn” tool as it’s always been.
-Regret helps to patch up his lower clash power, uses resources you’re likely to have a ton of since Wrath and Pride are so effective, and clears negative status effects, letting him purge that pesky gossipium bleed, moth burn, and even Spiral’s Gaze if I remember right
-HE is flexible: Pursuance is great healing but Capote is a godsend for any team running burn, with the absurd potency inflicted
all in all, highly worth bringing, esp if you’re running any kind of burn. If you want to give him a try and don’t want to invest the resources, I have him as a support unit: N470975330. Give it a go!
Yeah, Nsault was my MVP, since I had N Don and Ncliff in my team I could always apply his skill 2 attack power down, and since I was running a hybrid burn team capote was a massive help (on top of its next turn haste and wrath and blunt power up being useful for making his skill 2 pop off,) and my team had a lot of wrath skills so the times I was in trouble I could activate his passive and get that 3 protection
I ran this a second time wth an NCorp team, for which I borrowed NSault because I don't have him. I was quite surprised at how good he is; even with those low clash values he doesn't really have trouble winning clashes.
But W is just better for that
@@schnozgaming989 WSault is the only launch ID I’m missing so take all this with a grain of (meur)salt. That said, while W corp clashes better and provides some nice defensive debuffs, he has a worse stagger threshold, worse HP, no Aggro gain, and doesn’t have access to the bind and attack debuff that NSault does, nor does he have access to NSault’s on-demand protection, which imo gives NSault the edge in this railway since there’s a need to manage unopposed enemy attacks.
Its worth mentioning for Ardor Blossom Moth that you can clip its wings the turn before it uses Ardor Blossom Star to remove its ember, thus reducing the number of wrath skills used and greatly reducing the risk
This would require breaking the wings on turns 2,5,8, and so on, and is the only reason you might target the body for a bit if your DPS is low so you can break them on 5 if you miss doing it on turn 2
0:00 Intro
1:09 The Mechanics
3:07 Gossypium Segment Preparation (Porous Hand Mermaids, Dream-Devouring Siltcurrent and Drenched Gossypium)
5:40 Whale of the Porous Hand Mermaids
6:38 John B Obsession (AKA Dream-Devouring Siltcurrent)
10:40 Drenched Gossypium
13:12 ABM Segment Preparation (Ambling Pearl, Skin Prophet and Ardor Blossom Moth
13:49 Dancing I mean Ambling Pearl
14:57 Skin Prophet
17:52 Ardor Blossom Moth
19:28 Please stop saying Ardor Blossom Star
20:59 HELL Preparation (Pallid Mermaids, Pequod Trio and GasHarpoon)
21:53 Pallid Mermaids
22:31 Pequod Trio
28:04 GasHarpoon
30:20 Spiral of Contempt
Imagine if PM add an update where you can visit previous Refraction Railways?! So for those players who didn't complete or didn't have a chance to try the previous Refraction Railways! I want this update to come true so that I can try the previous Railways because I didn't have a chance to complete them.
@HarambaeXelonmuskfansidk we might sweep them now even if their levels get raised to modern standards
@HarambaeXelonmuskfanssunshower yi sang
@@mrrp405IDs forced to the level cap?
@@bestaround3323 nah i mean mechanically, even if their levels get raised, or our levels get lowered. It's design-creep, ID are just inherently stronger now
So, for my first run of this railway I decided to do something similar to your worst team for railway video, and went in with only base IDs for the entire railway. However I did not keep this restriction for Egos. For my team I had all of my base units up to level 40 and uptie 4, for my Egos I brought in a lot of healing and high rolling ones to help ease the difficulty a bit. Also before moving on to the fights I’d like to mention I was trying to do a deathless run, which made this railway substantially harder. But I did end up giving up on this requirement at the end, which I’ll explain why when we get there.
Now for the Gossypium segment. The first two battles were a breeze, I had a little trouble with Siltcurrent but fluid sac helped keep my team healthy for drenched Gossypium. For the drenched Gossypium fight I had to restart a few times because I got unlucky and a few of my sinners died. After two tries though I was able to beat this fight without a single death. The main problem with this fight for me was the bleed, the bleed stacks weren’t bad at first but as the fight went on it just kept getting higher and higher. I had healing Ego to help with the bleed but I was trying to save some Ego resources for later fights so I used them sparingly. To give perspective on how high the bleed count and potency got for me, on my successful attempt of this fight my Ishmael was just blocking for the latter half of the fight because if she had just clashed once she would have bleed to death. Here are my turn statistics for this segment, Mermaids of the Porous Hand: 11 turns, Siltcurrent: 14 turns, Drenched Gossypium: 13 turns.
For the ABM segment I had little to not trouble. Ambling Pearl and Skin Prophet were easy and good Ego resource farms. For Ardor Blossom Moth, it wasn’t as bad as I was expecting it to be. Granted I couldn’t clash with it much and I did have to restart this fight once because the burn got too bad. However on my second try I was more liberal with the amount of Egos I would use and I was able to beat it soon after. Overall I would say that this was the easiest segment of the entire railway. Here are the turn statistics for this segment, Ambling Pearl: 19 turns, Skin Prophet: 18 turns, Ardor Blossom Moth: 13 turns.
Now for the Hell segment, and oh boy does it earn this name. The first fight of this segment was relatively easy. However the Pequod Trio is where I started to struggle hard. The first part of this fight was easy enough to get through, but when the Trio comes out that’s where the problems begin. As you can expect, what I struggled with the most was Queequeg’s assist defense ability, which single handedly ended multiple attempts. However after like 5 tries I was able to beat this fight without a single death. Though this wasn’t without its drawbacks. First of all, all of the sinners I brought to this fight were around half health when I finally beat it, and second I used up all of my Ego resources using Egos to heal my sinners. My best advice for this fight if you’re going to only use base ID’s is to get rid of Starbuck and get Ahab to her second phase as fast as possible, and then try to kill her as quickly as you can. Now moving on to the Gasharpoon fight. This fight was also hard, but not as hard as the previous one. My main struggle with this fight is with her third phase, where she gains shield and uses her counter multiple times. Due to the lack of Ego resources I couldn’t use Egos often in this fight, and for the life of me I couldn’t get rid of her shield. Often leading to me having multiple sinners staggered from her counter. However after like 3 attempts I was able to save enough Ego resources to break her shield consistently enough to take her down. By far this segment was the hardest out of the three, not only did I have to restart certain fights over and over again but I wasted almost all of my Ego resources trying to beat them. This lack of Ego resources becomes a major problem for the terminus station, but I’ll talk about it when we get there. Anyway here are my turn statistics for this segment, Pallidified Things and Mermaids: 18 turns, Pequod Trio: 12 turns, Gasharpoon: 27 turns.
Finally we get to the Terminus Station. This fight single handedly broke me and made me give up on trying to complete this railway deathless. Spiral of Contempt in my opinion was the hardest fight in this run by far, not because its mechanics were hard. In fact I’d say it’s easier than the Pequod Trio and Gasharpoon. No, the main reason why I rank this as the hardest fight is the sheer amount of time and focus this fight took out of me. Spiral of Contempt’s resistances were a large part of that but also its All-beholding Gaze passive. In fact it’s that exact passive that made me give up on a deathless run. Let me explain, overall it took me two attempts to beat it with the first one mainly being about figuring out its skills and mechanics. On my second/successful attempt I took this fight more seriously. For the first half of the fight I tried clashing when I could and used defensive skills to beat skills I couldn’t clash with. Due to the previous fights I couldn’t use Ego that often to win clashes or to heal my team when the sinners health became low. The main part that broke me however was when I got it below 30% of its Max HP. This activated its All-beholding Gaze passive which compounds both SP and HP damage over time onto your sinners. It’s especially that SP damage that screwed me over as I couldn’t take down Spiral of Contempt fast enough. I would also like to remind you of the fact that I had little to no Ego resources meaning I couldn’t burst it down with Ego nor heal the SP lost consistently. This resulted to my sinners corroding and killing each other and a few turns later all six of my sinners had died. By the time I was defeated I had spent around 30 minutes to an hour on this attempt and I was seriously contemplating whether or not to continue on with my other sinners or to just try again. Ultimately you know what I chose, I gave up on my deathless run and I continued the fight with the rest of the sinners. Luckily the hands were near staggering and Spiral of Contempt was nearly dead, so all I had to do was be fast enough to stagger the hands and focus it down. After a couple of turns I was able to stagger the hands and finally kill Spiral of Contempt. This attempt was so near to failure that one extra turn could have meant death and repeating this fight all over again, and I’m not sure if I had the strength to do that all over again. The turn when I killed Spiral of contempt, my sinners were near corroding and I was seriously panicking on whether or not I’ll be able to kill it. But when I finally saw its health reach zero a wave of relief and excitement flooded my brain. Overall this fight took me 40 TURNS to complete. FOURTY TURNS!!!!!!!! My god, I didn’t expect this fight to take so long but I made it through at least. Anyway adding up all the turns this run took me 185 turns to complete total. I hope my run helps you and gives you some perspective on how your worst teams for railway 3 run will be. Can’t wait to see that video.
Im really late to the party but thanks for making this video and the railway 3 with worst team video. It made possible for me to do RR3 as a complete noob with only 15 days of account. Will keep following your videos for Limbus Company content.
How in the hell... I've been playing for a month and everything was extremely easy, till ahab... I cant get past ahab at all.
Well, you finally convinced me to buckle down and finish my Railway run.
Finished with exactly 100 turns, and just in time for my birthday!🎉
Now to never touch this again until the next line
The actual Ahab strat I used, as a noted non coward, is to just dodge tank all the attacks. This DOES require keeping Starbuck alive, as you will need to actually target clash to trigger your dodge (found this one out the hard way in the pre nerf dungeon), but if you have 45 SP it's not that unlikely to just eat every Ahab and Starbuck attack, and get to focus on Queequeg and Ahab. I like it mostly because it is funny, and also that it's a lot more flexible, and you should honestly be bringing a lot of dodge units into the fight anyways, so if you had to support for W Don, don't worry, she can also help you tank Ahab if you need her to.
There is actually another method to evade:
Target one of Queequeg's defence skills with your marked sinner's evade and then have another sinner use their defence skill on it to override it's targeting, now Queequeg will be the one with an offset defence skill and your evade will become a one-sided evade, which will now work.
This not only has the obvious advantage of Starbuck not having to be alive, but Ahab's skills will effectively have one less coin to dodge without Starbuck's support.
@@solaariel2692Wow! This is genius, thanks.
@@solaariel2692 I'm pretty sure that doesn't work either, no? Since Queequeg is usually slower than Ahab, you'll intend to clash with Quee, but get hit by about 8 billion stabs before the redirected Queequeg attack comes in. The reason why you keep Starbuck alive is because he is consistently faster than Ahab and thus able to "trigger" your dodge which will get reused and reused
@@NeoBoneGirl Queequeg's speed shouldn't matter, a one-sided evade isn't clashing with anything and thus doesn't have have to wait for an enemy attack. Leaving Starbuck alive just means that the marked sinner has more attacks to dodge (although it does save one sinner an action).
@@solaariel2692 well this didn't work. I targeted queepegs blue shield with marked prey's defense skill first (offset), then another ally's defense skill (which turned the former into one-sided evade). but it didn't work.
As a man with a 69 turn clear (nice), this Railway is VERY lenient on the special banner. Even without envy nukers, it's possible to get as low as 70+ turns with not a lot of optimization if you just play the fights well and aren't greedy with your EGO usage. The only reset heavy RNG place is the Hell Segment as ESGOO called it, otherwise it's smooth sailing (pun potentially intended). Anything sub 70 is when things start to get into really high optimization.
If anyone is curious just how much room for optimization there is, apparently the world record is 35 turns.
minutes ago i finished my sub 100 railway run and now i see this video was posted.. reverse esgoo curse god damn
For those who still worries: I got 91 turns on first day without switching team and only change one member. (Der Outis is not very good outside burn team) And yes, I didn't know getting grasp helps you. I also didn't die on Ahab 1... somehow.
Generally, 5clair and Queecliff are very helpful during this fight, with Lantern being HP heal and Sunyata being SP heal. I straight up heal over Gossypium and Moth fight, I didn't even evade the Gossypium's skills because I was a dumbass.
One more thing I want to mention in favour of Queecliff against the Pequod Trio: Ya Sunyata and AEDD. Ya Sunyata's passive will both increase his max HP and heal Heathcliff after recovering from stagger, and since we want to stagger him on purpose anyways we may as well. AEDD grants Charge based on his missing HP and it's passive heals him every time he gets hit for a small amount in exchange for Charge Count, although it's only useful if he needs to tank a second beating it's still worth pointing out if one can't kill Ahab fast enough.
AEDD also just fuels itself when below 40% hp, making him very consistently tanky below that point, because every hit received also just heals him unconditionally for nearly 6hp
I didn’t have an optimal team and I still don’t have a lot of ego, but managing to get through all the railway regardless was so satisfying, also seven Ryoshu with red eyes (open) saved my run at the stupid moth fight because that was the only ego I had that could consistently clash the thing.
And here I was hoping for a 7 hour video
Thank you for the guide. I ran it blind and managed to clear it on 93 turns.
Great video ESGOO!
Tho I have a small thing to say for ahab fights. Idk why people forget that Roseate Desire Ishmael exists as it literally turns Ahab into useless unit,and especially during counter phase in Gaslight stage you can just throw Horny Ish and Chain of Others and now even units which are fatal to pierce don't take any damage.
P.S.
Thank you for throwing NMeur as possible unit against Ahab,now I don't feel as insane using him with 9 protection funnies.
I used it after getting screwed by terrible speed/targeting luck on Ambling Pearl, and was shocked to realize Pink Ribbons triggers on EVERY clash, not just Ishmael's. It's one of, if not the best passive in the game
@@snipermagoo Yep,its such good speed control!
Perfect timing esgoo, just beat canto 5 yesterday night
very good info for those who is rushing down RR3 to finish it before RR4 starts (not that i know of), thank you esgoo the cursed man
I love RR3, I hope this is the format going forward. Felt so much more fun and rewarding. It actually made me want to go for lower turn counts
Oh wow, many thanks dude, thanks to you I just got my 68 turns run :D
I was not aware that final boss was that susceptible to rupture team
I felt like the changes from RR2 to RR3 were quite good. The ability, with the rest stops, to sacrifice Sinners more tactically, was a good one (Even though I basically didn't end up doing so), and being able to change loadout made it a bit more engaging in that way. It also meant the individual fights could be more brutal, rather than having the railway just be attrition.
That said, I wonder if it was perhaps a bit *too* easy? Or the turn target should have been lowered. I got 99 turns on my first go, and I wasn't resetting or anything for turns.
(The animated banners and whatnot look really good, though.)
The main note I also have, about first fight, is a reminder you can sorta chain killing the mermaids, since one dying deals ten damage to all the rest. It's very handy.
And if memory serves, you can use Evades to mess up Ahab's one sided attacks, instead of just tanking them.
Additionally, I found both 'Iron Locust' and 'I've already pushed the envelope so hard I could be a professional mailman' rather amusing.
Going forward, I think there's really two things I'd want from railways.
-I think it'd be nice to still be able to fiddle about in the old ones, even with no rewards
-Could you imagine RR2 with E.G.O. gifts? That'd be fun. Some weird merger between RR2 and a Mirror dungeon, just see how far you could go, basically.
Here to say you DEFINITELY cannot Evade Ahab's one-sided attacks. It was how I lost.
Great video, only slight correction is Phase 2 of Ahab the Pequod Trio fight happens when she's under 50% HP, not the first Stagger threshold (around 60% HP). In most cases this won't matter at all but one run I managed to hit that "sweetspot" and it messed up my timing for that particular attempt
Yaaaay, this one I’ve been waiting for! Now I can do Railway. 😍
I feel called out on ABM.... look I wanted to test funny Ishy... so imagine my surprise when I walk in to ABM, my Yuri Faust at 2hp, the 3 Pequod, and 2 Middles being an average of 30hp between them all, with barely 4 Gloom resource, and 50+pride and envy resources, and then seeing funny burn moth go brr.... that was hell and a half. Don't ask me how I won. I blocked that memory permanently
Did the entire railway this time with a full rupture team. 7 Outis, Faust and Heath, Lantern Don, Kong Lu, and Warp Yi Sang. Between the passives on ebony stem and Ys Sang's lost passenger, was able to maintain pretty high rupture counts on most of the single target fights, and Kong Lu was a real help in pumping the potency. Would really recommend this team if people are struggling.
THE LONG ESGOO VIDEOS ARE BACK FUCKKKK YEAHHH
Thx for the guide, finished on first try under 100 turns.
Thank you ESGOO, I love you.
King, you dropped your crown. Just got my first ever clear.
As someone who did all of this railway with a burn team (Shootis, Liu Ish, Nclair/Cinqlair for trio fight evade tank, Liu Meur, Liu Gregor and Liu Hong on bench) the trio and Ahab were easily the HARDEST fights. Having a whole team of IDs weak to pierce (besides Outis and Cinqlair as a swap for evade tanking while keeping Starbuck alive, and Queequeg is weak to blunt so staggering her breaks assist attack too) was absolutely painful on these fights, and I eventually had to let Gregor die on the trio and meur die on Gasharpoon due to bad speed rolls. I was essentially FORCED to swap to Cinqlair to even remotely have a chance of clearing the trio, and Gasharpoon was basically a brick wall since during the counter phase you were constantly get units staggered and completely fail on damage vs the shield.
It was still very comfortably doable at 85 turns on first try for me, with a bunch of fight resets and 1 rewind on the 2nd quarter because of bad HP management and a particularly bad run on skin prophet, but this railway overall is definitely much looser on the time constraint than RR2 and RR1 were.
Overall, very happy with this railway and the new bosses are super fun and interesting to play against. ABM was a super fun fight even though it was a bunch of reading, Gossypium was easy enough to just burn down, and Spiral was a very interesting mechanic that gives a lot of freedom and options to a variety of teams. And I particularly enjoyed having the waves to build up ego resources, passives, and buff stacks on before going into the harder waves (though that is unfortunately another reason burn suffered quite a bit)
This was very helpful and if you are have a hard time during the final boss just use rabbit heath cliff and delete the hands
Good video, definitely will be using this as a reference for my low clear run.
One thing I would like to add though is that I felt you really undersold N Corp Mersault, I believe he’s significantly better than K Corp Hong Lu. His clash powers are initially pathetic (only 7-14 assuming all heads), but by engaging with his skill 1 gimmick while under the Regret EGO passive you can ramp it up to a respectable 14-17. Also his skill 1 & 3 are pierce so his damage ends up being respectable. As for his skill 2, its alright enough against queequeg since blunt.
And for what its worth, I ran N Corp Mersault myself for my first run because I wanted to keep my Pequod Heathcliff at stupidly low HP, so it has my personal vouch too.
About who i used to tank ahab with in the pequod fight, i actually used G gregor. While his stagger bars are high, the fight before gives you time to hit them and heal, and since g gregor's hp is so low, he will get the buffs from fluid sac. Combine thia with his inate healing, pierce resistance and AEDD making him resistant to envy, and you have an OK tank for 1 round of ahab damage. You can then heal gregor fairly easy using ego and his healing.
An alternative strat for the pequod Trio is, first you're gonna want to bring Molar Ish and a few more good IDs with evade skills. Second DO NOT kill Starbuck, just have someone evade his attacks and try your best to ignore him without taking too much damage, as long as he's not staggered during the assist attack turn you should be alright. Third, have Molar Ish get the prey mark. During the assist attack turn, have Molar ish Evade Starbuck, as he will be the fastest of the trio, and you can actually target Starbuck during the assist attack turn. You use Molar ish, because her evade has a floor of 10, so even on a tails roll with that evade it's not a guarantee that you'll eat the rest of the attacks. This is probably less consistent than the 3 tank strats outlined in this video, and you can technically us any ID with a half decent evade for this, it's just that Molar ish is probably the most consistent due to the aforementioned floor of 10
One other strategy for the Pequod Trio that I rarely see talked about is for the Mark Prey sinner to use evade.
This may appear impossible as you can't target Ahab and using an evade vs one of Queequeg's defensive skills will cause it to be offset and thus not work, but there is a way around it. Target one of Queequeg's defence skills with your marked sinner's evade and then have another sinner use their defence skill on it instead, now Queequeg will be the one with an offset defence skill and your evade will become a one-sided evade, which will now work. You can also use Starbucks attacks for this purpose as he is always faster than Ahab, but that has the obvious disadvantage of him still being alive.
This probably isn't the best tactic, as hitting that 5% change on an evade can easily be a reset, but it can work for those who don't have any good tanking options (or ESGOO on his worst team possible run).
I just didn't stagger starbuck the previous turn so that I could dodge his attacks as he was faster than ahab, using my one and only W ryoshy and then she dodged all of ahab's attacks
I used cinq outis to dodge ahabs unopposed attacks. If you keep starbuck alive you can evade him which carries over to ahabs attacks. Yeah theres a 5% chance for evade to hit tails but luck is a skill! Also its hillarious watching Ahab deal no damage.
About alternative forms of tanking ahab's attacks in the trio fight, my friend left starbuck alive so he could evade starbuck's attacks and have the evade recycle into ahab's one sided attack later, which was a really crackhead move that required a lot of rng but eventually worked for him. He used Cinq Outis for that
Something I recently learned by accident in my latest Mirror Dungeon run is that if all the candles are out before The Skin Prophet tries to use 9:2 it will use a nasty unclashable move called 6:5.
Too bad all that damage goes to the prophet though.
So you have to not light the candles before he uses 9:2?
@@Beepers559 You have to light them, and then next turn deal them 20 damage to snuff them again. With there being 5, you might want to AoE them.
@@snipermagoo oh, that would’ve saved me a ton of headaches fighting the Twitlonger prophet
this video just saved my life
Rewind was a component of Railway 1 also. It just wasnt in 2 probably due to the forced repeat aspect
Fun fact! If you are a slowpoke at killing starbucks and ahab WILL target someone with prey mark, give it to someone with a strong evade [i used w yi sang at the moment] and target starbuck's attack with his evade, it does not matter if he gets staggered same turn, cause now the character will actively evade ahab's attacks and take 0 damage [i was flabbergasted when i tried this out, this railway REALLY likes evade.
This spider matriarch guy haven't been hit by vehicle in a long time so he goes for his second favourite thing - rambling for 17 hours
I remember losing the 5% clash to Ardor Blossom Moth. 5 times. In a row. -45 sanity to me instantly
The run I won was somehow with Umbrella Heathcliff and Puddle Stomp. A cool thing I discovered is that you can activate his sinking quite easily with the unclashable skill, it deals no damage but still hits you putting him in a comfortable sanity range to just nuke the moth
Something that I didn't see you mention, and as I haven't done the railway I'm not sure if it still holds. But at least in the canto v dungeon and hmd, skin prophet, after a couple turns will reset his candles and attack with 9:2 a very powerful attack. But if you reset the candles yourself by breaking their shields, it will instead use 6:5, a powerful, unclashable attack that it hits itself with. It will apply a bunch of burn and reduce it's max hp by 20 percent and stagger itself. This fact saved my hmd run and made the close out very easy.
There's a very funny interaction with Ahab's onslaught I remember from doing the Canto fight.
Not sure if it still works for the Railway though, or if it's even viable to try to do this, but I figured it was worth mentioning.
Basically, if you somehow manage to break through Queequeg's shield with your highest speed units, your lower speed units (provided they still have higher speed than Ahab) will be able to redirect Ahab's attacks if you targeted her slots with them.
I did the uptie after round one thing, purely because i hadn't bothered to level most IDs past 35 and needed the clashing for siltcurrent.
Smallest little tip, but in case you lack egos or skills to clash consistently in high clashing attacks, Meursault's base EGO is your best friend. Seriously. It handicaps so many strong attacks and makes them little to no threat, just time the ego correctly and you should be fine. If your Meursault is fast it's even better! Because in case you forgot to ego in the previous turn, he can move first and then handicap the enemy the same way!
Don't forget that it's better to facetank the first Blind Ob on unit that can tank/handle stagger like Pequod Daddycliff rather than losing it on a very important unit that will eat a lot of debuffs, get staggered, potentially killed, I kinda have extremely garbage ass luck as to rolling against blind ob, because depending comps, saving EGO resources for Gossy is way more vital than throwing those to survive first BO.
That had given me the best performances so far.
Esgoo i hope u know that i adore your videos in both writing and hunor and style
Something I did to deal with Ahab and crew was leave Starbuck alive and use Cinq Outis to evade like crazy since Starbuck usually has higher speed than Ahab. Took a few tries doing that strat but it worked
At times its easy to forget that murasults EGO exists. Ahab did like 19 damage total
i've seen people saying gasharpoon starts from phase one when you go back into the fight with new sinners, but if anything that was changed. from the time of writing, most comments / this video are 3 weeks old; i've been stuck on gasharpoon for about 4 hours now, playing tonight (2:50 AM god help me) and safe to say she starts from the phase you left off with her health remaining. shield mechanic gets reset too. 30 queequeg's ego, full shield and reset attack rotation, but 81 hp, for example. done this about three times so it's consistent!
(yes im in pain and agony)
Thank you for the GasHarpoon tutorial, I cheesed that fight in Canto 5
6:17 I did actually, though it's a little different because i went through the entire 13 stations with everyone at 30-35
I didn't know skill's attack weight trick. Thank you!
Finally, now that ESGOO has released a guide, I can actually consider doing Railway!
You can also briefly evade tank pequod trio. Starbuck always speedrolls higher than ahab (unless he's binded) so your preymarked unit can target starbuck and evade ahab's followup attacks. Not a sustainable strategy because starbuck has to die eventually, but gives you breathing room for the first cycle and an opportunity to damage quequeg.
The hell segment really is an accurate name for it…
*Because the pequod trio was literal fucking hell to beat*
they still the nerf version btw
I vividly remember my normal mode Ahab fight being incredibly stupid. And god, I want to be able to mimic that in my first clear of the railway. I used Chains of Others repeatedly because I had enough EGO points to use it every turn, and by the end of it I had 5 (one died) of my team members alive while one of them was just my level 22 Base LCB Meursault with no EGO and just Chains of Others, spamming that shit on Ahab and somehow still managing to win clashes. What a boss.
Fun fact: gasharpoons phases reset when you refight her with your last few sinners. Meaning you’ll have to go through all 3 phases and 2 revives she has.
Is nobody going to mention how he sneaked multiple lines from Compass into the Gas Harpoon section of the video? C'mon, give the man some credit
I couldn't find them, could you highlight them please?
Well... I just fully bruteforced with charge team for 80 turns and then thought "Oh wait, there is no loops? I thought i would need to read".
This video was a bunch of help haha. Pequod trio was kicking my ass and I was getting annoyingly unlucky with the Moth. I had to borrow a friends Outis for the twitter guy and lighting those candles made the fight a joke. I really really need to get myself some egos cause rn I have no healing ego making this just that bit harder haha.
Barely managed to kill the spiral, my main team had died and my Zwei Gregor had barely any health and everyone on my backup team was dead. Spiral had 1 HP and I had to target an evade and on the last coin the attack went off and I BARELY won. If that coin missed the fight would've been lost.
Another thing for using Ncorp Meur to tank Ahab, instead of using your counter for a +1 prot, If you have not bricked your account, TS1 or TS2 screwloose wallop is a better choice as it give you an additional 3 prot as well as ineffective Pride resistance. This makes NMeur easily eat Ahab's attacks and then before she does her Prey Mark again, you can heal NMeur through Pursuance or any other healing EGO.
I went in blind for the 1st 3 days and I didn't know about being able to go back to the health stops. I fully reset over 40 times just because of the Ardor Blossom Moth. When someone told me I didn't have to full reset my run I actually felt sick.
rest in peace railway 3
Cleared RR3 in 83 turns in a fully blind run without much thinking and time tweaking with W Sang, 7 Faust, Ting Tang Hong Lu (haven't got the Dieci one), Harpooner Hearth, Sinqclair (oh god, he's op...), Pirate Gregor, Boolet Outis, Captain Ishmael and W Don. I know that I mentioned more than 6, but yeah. I had to swap my team a bit due to Ahab Incident. RR3 was great, a lot more fun and less annoying. Project Moon did a great job tweaking the annoyance without reducing the difficulty.
A tip, if you got capote mersualt during season 2 it can really well clash against blossom moth.
One thing to note is that on stage 1 mermaid will take 10 dmg when one of them die. So you can leave the clean up to that
About Mass Attack manipulation
as far as I know, once you select the targets, it doesn't change at all unless you update the dashboard, and that is done by activating or dismissing EGOs and Defensive Skills
so if you want to manipulate the entire board, you first need to settle on what you will use in regards to that and activate the pertinent EGOs and defensive skills beforehand
My information could be outdated because PM's famous pasta: the Spaghetti code
I did the ahab fight with cinq outis as my tank. the strategy is quite different, somewhat luck reliant because of the nature of dodge and very specific in what you want to achieve every turn but the reward is that you do the fight with cing outis not even going below half health and finishing the fight in about 9~12 turns if you do it right. so the long explanation:
turn1: clash with everyone and stagger starbuck BUT DON'T KILL HIM.
turn2 : ignore starbuck, focus on ahab , cinq outis should be the one with prey mark on her, ahab should be staggered or in phase 2 by the next turn
turn3 : make cinq outis dodge the low rolling attack from starbuck clash with the high rolling ones he should be staggered for the next turn. break queequeg's shield .
turn4: K I L L A H A B .
if ahab is still alive then you have to repeat but she will likely be dead in the 2nd turn of the cycle.
4:08 Can I also add N Mersault as an option?
Saved my bacon on my first shot at the third segment. I did not have any good way of handling Assist Attack/Assist Defence, and had to redo that section with N Mersault to act as a full body tank. He also meshes well with N Faust's nails, since that lets his S2 inflict some strength down, and he has the only defence skill that can actually respond to Ahab's one-sided assault, because it gives him protection on turn start, versus "on use", which never happens, because neither Ahab nor Queegqueeg are going to directly attack him.
ESGOO didn’t rant for 17 limbillion hours, 0/10.
In all seriousness, a wonderful guide!
09:00 "Impending Day" Sinclair is also good against paralyze
has 28 base power with -8 coin
after rechecking, some of notable Base Power EGO:
Sinclair - 9:2 26
Heathcliff - Telepole 33
Ishmael - Roseate Desire 29
Rodion - 4th Match Flame 38
hope this helps anyone out there
A strat that I used for Pequod Trio that completely goes against this video entirely is to not even touch Starbuck and focus on Queequeg with lots of blunt attacks (NClair, Regret Faust, Dieci Rodya and Middle Don all work wonders here) and then when Ahab applies Prey mark you clash with a high evade ID like Tingtang or Cinq Outis against Starbuck since he will always go before Ahab. Once Queequeg is dead (which is very easy once you break her shield the first time around) you can nuke Ahab regardless of who she's targeting, and honestly you can just ignore Starbuck since the fight ends when Ahab dies
Then there is of course the strat I used for Spiral of Contempt which is a) a bad idea to replicate and b) very funny, which was to run bleed, tank unopposed attacks with Oomfiecliff and Rhino, and then have my entire team die except Hook Lu in the very last turn. True damage go brr, but just use rupture, bleed is finicky at best (very satisfying to see it go from 240 health to 0 against a single staggered sinner though)
contempt is probably my favorite new abnormality fight
Of course the limbus guy talks about limbus... How daring
My strategy for dealing with the pequod trio was actually leaving Starbuck alive or at least unstaggered when ahab does her assist defend thing or whatever it's called then use a evade unit that got marked, evade on Starbuck then they will evade on ahab as well, I used cinq outis for this. It took forever though because i was stupid and just focused my attacks on queequeg, when I should have done so with ahab
One minute in , already know he’s going to rant for 7 hours straight
When it came to tanking Ahab in the pequod trio fight, I (albeit accidentally) tanked the entire fight using molar ishmael. Turns out if you use blind obsession to make her resistant to everything ahab does and use evade to evade everything qq does... you just never take damage above 20 per coin, which from what I remember, barely brought her above first stagger (might be remembering wrong though to be fair)
Rupture/Sinking can be used to cheese the ABS part as well, and I do prefer ruptue because it consumes way less ego resources (rimeshank spam can get fairly expensive).
It is quite reroll heavy for sure, but it saved me the pressure of feeling as if I needed to optimize hard when doing part 3 and I got sub 100 anyway even if my peq trio fight took more turns than the abs area lmao.
You mention disliking gaze be the same thing as faust, but given how this abnormality is, I kinda think its a N.Corp Adjacent Abno, given the "shall" theme
Harpooner might be the better choice over Rabbit for Ahab, but both IDs resist pierce and envy. I used sunshower for the protection and my Rabbit survived with a good 88 health, even after getting marked twice.
I had LCCB assistant manager ryoshu tank ahab. Used blind obsession to change resistances and it somehow worked.
If you want to go even faster against the clam…. Just ignore clashing and hit the pearl!
If the clam doesn’t stagger anyone, then you can kill it in about 2-3 turns ^^
27:32 rip zwei gregor. You died as you lived, eating harpoons.
I love how I beat the Gossypium part with NFaust no Fluid Sack and TingTang Hong Lu lmao. I had no healing other than Base Don EGO(used very sparingly) and Wingbeat (used like, once on DDS and once on Gossypium). Literally just spam evade and you're alright lololol.
(My team was:
-Middle Don (Base+Wishing Cairn)
-R Ishmael (Base(never used)+Wingbeat)
-Tingtang Hong Lu (Base(Also never used))
-Nfaust (Base+Hex Nail+Telepole)
-Cinq Sinclair (I refuse to use his base ego. I love Sinclair but that base EGO is dogshit.)
-Kurokumo Gregor (Base+Bygone Days))
(Noone is wondering, but yes I have Dieci Hong Lu. I just don't want to deal with the insight mechanics and thus decided on Tingtang even though I knew about the 0.2 damage on Gossypium thing)
Ykw, shout out to Branch of Knowledge on Cinq Sinclair for rolling 30 (14+15+Declared Duel) and beating ABStar twice and chipping off 2 coins for that one time it decided to be silly and rolled tails on the last stretch. I will admit it's an alright substitute for if you don't have a WAW ego and need to clash ABS.
Surprised Telepole Heathcliff wasn’t mentioned during the Ahab/Harpooncliff Discussion, dropping envy resists from 0.75x to 0.5x and Pride resist from 1x to 0.75x when compared to bodysack.
I used W Corp Meursault for the Pequod crew fight, with him being the tank and using Chain of Others on Ahab which reduced her damage to almost nothing. Although my W Corp Meursault was ut4
Great idea, swapping out Rabbit for QQ... not. Quick Suppression speeds up the fight against Ahab by a lot, allowing you to stagger Ahab first turn if you get lucky, basically removing the most annoying mechanic of the fight. Molar Ishmael is probably best for the Ahab fight, you can easily set her up to inflict 3 fragile next turn. Combine that with Quick Suppression and you'll deal ridiculous damage. More luck-dependent, but there's a fair amount of luck involved with tanking Ahab as well, since aggro is basically just RNG as well.
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then you also can re-target every other skill. just don't forget to NOT target the slot aoe ego is targeting, if that happens, it will redo the targeting and completely flip everything up
Instructions unclear. Depression Heathcliff with a hidden fursuit unga bungad everything.