M2 MacBook Air 8GB vs 16GB RAM - How BAD is base model?
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- Опубликовано: 27 июн 2024
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I need MacBook Air m2 with 16 gm ram and 512 gb 10 core gpu
Please make a full comparison between the 14" MacBook Pro and the m2 MacBook Air. Would help allot!
I would have liked to have seen a closer match up here. Say both 512’s but one with 8gb vs 16gb. This video shows 2 variables and it messes up the entire comparison.
very need
You should get the 16gb to avoid RAM swap
@@jamespong6588 I was going to go with the base Macbook Pro 14” as there was only a $350 difference after upgrading to 16gb and a 512gb SSD on the Air (in Canada). I am holding off though to see what happens this spring. Apple is supposed to be coming out with a bigger Macbook Air…. maybe they’ll have improved their combos a bit
Please do this Max Tech
Agreed cause I just ordered a air with 16gb but only the base SSD. I might return it tbh. I dont like this SSD issue at all.
I'm a photographer and use the base model. I regularly use LRC and export files ranging from 200 to 800 images on average. If I export 200 photos it usually takes around 5-6 minutes with additional tabs open so not sure why exporting 50 images should take that long. I also do not have any slowness in browsing so not sure but thats my experience and really happy with the base model.
is 8 gb enough for your regullar use?
@@4l3kisyes. I have a seven-year-old Intel Mac air with 8 gigs of RAM. I run a medium-sized and two small businesses from it including social media and web design and development. I'll get around 6 gig of used Ram with all of those things running at once including over 30 open Chrome tabs
last year when i went to buy the mac mini m1 i thought i would regret getting only 8gb, but it never let me down. I work with adobe illustrator and photoshop at the same time, lots of safari tabs, infinite finder windows, and I had no problems. Of course everything has a limit, but for now it's been perfect
Any update on your base Mac experience ?
How your Mac is doing nowadays?
Great eye opening comparison. Now we need another comparison between M1 and M2 both having 16GB/512GB then we will come to know the actual performance of the M2 processor.
Bruh, M2 definitely will be faster because of the 10 GPU cores.
@@mainaksanyal9515 you can have an 8 core GPU even with 16+512 with the M2 macbook air
ruclips.net/video/bwE7UUEYgcg/видео.html According to this video, the 512GB SSD on M2 MacBook Pro is slower than the 512GB SSD on M1 MacBook Air.
You’re better off just buying the M1 to save $200 if you need the 16GB RAM/512GB Storage.
I would want to watch that for sure.
Would be nice to see dual 512GB computers comparing the 8GB and 16GB of ram. But this is very insightful regardless. Great work as always.
ow is 16GB+258GB vs 16GB+512GB is that 512 worth it if im already upgrading to 16GB ram
I was hoping to see the RAM difference with the same amount of storage. Preferably the 512.
Please do this Max Tech
Love the fact that you have created multiple reviews that help eliminate the issue methodically rather than doing the guesswork!
Keep up the impartial testing and reporting Max Tech! You're one of the best around. Even for an almost 20 year Mac user like myself (my first Mac was the 2003 iBook G4), you consistently share what I need to know, and it helps me when deciding on purchases for my needs and budget. Thank you!
I'd love to see a comparison between 512GB/8GB vs 256GB/16GB.
me too
That would be interesting, but I think they would have to buy more laptops, which I don’t know if they would actually do.
I’m sorry, but this actual comparison is not about the storage, it’s actually a ‘hand-to-hand’ combat between RAMs.
So it doesn’t matter which STORAGE would you pick, since the latest M2 lineups were only applying a single NAND SSD.
The only thing that matters for STORAGE is the ‘Write/ Read’ speed and that’s it.
@@TheBlackbird132 As far as I understood, only the 256GB SSD is a single NAND SSD.
Loving the comparison videos and thank you for all the hardwork that you guys put in :)
I would be interested to see a comparison between the following models: 8 GB RAM/256 GB SSD - 16 GB RAM/256 GB SSD - 8 GB RAM/512 SSD - 16 GB RAM/512 GB SSD. That would really help to tease out the differences between RAM and SSD in a variety of scenarios. Still, the amount of testing you guys do is amazing, and I really appreciate the effort to help others make good decisions.
Yes he will not review this test for sure
You can easily read between the lines to extrapolate any missing data.
What you need to know is at 8:03
If the CPU is not running at 100% when its being asked to and it's not overheating/throttling, it points to a serious problem with memory and i/o. Basically it can't grab data fast enough and so is skipping cycles. SSDs, while solid state aren't exactly the same as old mechanical hard drives, they function similarly in that there is a specific number of blocks of data that it can manipulate at once and shove to the southbridge. If it's too low, the cpu simply idles until the next chunk comes in. We saw this ALL THE TIME with old mechanical drives 10 years ago. Incredibly fast computers simply spinning their wheels waiting ages for the weakest link in the chain. This feels similar.
@@plektosgaming but we cannot determine if the cap is on Memory BW or SSD BW ...exactly. Right?
@@matisan100 It's the SSD. We know this based on the controller chip that it's using combined with the way the memory is set up. It's just a huge cost-cutting measure that basically limits the SSD interface to nearly SATA 1.0 speeds.
Agreed, this test really needs to be done. For anyone who is wondering which upgrade would be better for performance, the RAM is absolutely the better choice if you can only get one. Swap (even on the fastest SSDs) is orders of magnitude slower than RAM due to significantly higher access latency, so memory bound workloads will face significant slowdowns on both the 512GB and the 256GB models.
By upgrading your RAM, you significantly reduce how much the system has to swap to begin with (which, in turn, negates the slower SSD's impact on swap performance).
i wish this was a 8gb vs 16gb but both with 256gb ssd. lots of us can only afford to upgrade either the ram or the ssd. plus that would show a fairer comparison between the two ram options without being affected by the ssd situation.
yeah he really has to do a video on that too with the same examples. WE HAVE TO SEE THAT!!
Exaclty. Cuz I’ll either upgrade RAM or SSD but not both. Whatever will provide me with the most upgrade for 200 bucks
@@christianhammod5259 200 bucks isn't enough for both? xD I am glad that I don't even know how expancive the base model is^^
If you have to choose one get the sad upgrade
Upgrade ram and use external ssd.
Would be curious to compare the performance change by downgrading the RAM to 8GB from 16GB, while keeping SSD the same at 512GB. Thanks for the video.
Omg yes 😊
No can do...Apple soldered the tal to the board and cant be changed
That is a crazy difference in performance, especially with the transfer speed. That is insanely unexpected for such a minimal difference of what should be affecting performance. I wonder if it's a result of how the M-chips perform, where hardware increases can perform exponentially better in ways that aren't very noticeable for PC and non-M chip Macs.
Really glad that you are putting together all these videos! Super helpful and insightful!
Would be nice to see a closer comparison: 8 vs 16 and SSD remains the same, or 256 vs 516 and RAM stays the same
Based on their M2 MacBook pros test, I think we can imagine the outcome of such tests.
agree. 8+256 vs 16+512 comparison is too wide
@@shiro_tube look at their other M2 tests, between the 13" M2 MBP and MBA they have it covered.
This is what I'm waiting for, as well.
I think for ram there isnt any problem since apple's ram management with its ram swap is working tremendously well WHICH really needs that high speed SSDs
If u only compare the ram size, it only make some natural-usual-size difference, while the main problem is the SSD speed that WAY SLOWER than its predecessor
My main point is: its better to upgrade to 8/512, than the 16/256
(Additional edit: since its not about storage space alone, its about the speed and the snappy feel when multitask with the ram swap)
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Of course, man! You make great videos :)
Cheers!
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Thank you for conducting these tests!
I'm going for the 24 GB version. Counting on 6-8 GB gone for the OS and background agents, that leaves a decent 16 GB. Enough to do multitasking and keeping all these apps open when I need to do heavier graphic stuff.
Absolutely love that you guys do true apples to apples comparisons they’re super helpful and eye opening, and love how you do and show true real world tests rather than just describing what that may look like. Curious to see if the difference in gpu for the 16g ram & 512ssd especially on the more graphic intensive tasks. Also the larger ram configurations, do those make a true difference (cuz I be a MAAAAAAAJOR multitasker)
Apple to Apple comparisons, I like how you put it!
Would love to see a comparison between a 16/512 GB M2 Air vs a base 14“ M1 Pro MBP.
Keep up the great work!
Really needed this! Thanks!🔥
This was very helpful! Thank you so much
Thanks for the vid! In your 2020 M1 Macbook tests, we saw that upgrading from 8gb to 16gb RAM yielded negligible performance boosts. I wonder what an M2 MBA with 8gb RAM and 512gb storage would look like.
This!!! Absolutely loved my base model M1 Air, but thinking of getting the M2 Air with 8gb and 512 SSD
Go to their channel and look at their other M2 videos. They have it covered.
@@nicolasramirez9408 You're not getting much moving from the M1 MBA. Look at their other videos, they have done that test.
Wish both had the 8GB RAM so the comparison would be more “real” with the SSD issue, or being both configurations that apple offers
Totally. Everyone knows when doing experiments you only change one variable at a time
My PHONE has 12gb of RAM. Apple are clowns for even offering an 8gb RAM Macbook in 2022. Absurd.
@@Polyfusia That's an awful comparison.. You know iPhone 13 Pro has 6 GB of RAM and equivalent Samsung has double that because Android isn't optimised? More RAM doesn't mean better performance lol.
@@Krankschwesterbest thing to do is install custom android rom but anyways Samsung and google both are optimized roms
Thanks for the video!
Great review! Thanks!
Great review and thanks for looking out for us consumers with your insightful reviews! It would be interesting to have an M2 8gb/256 vs 16gb/256 comparison
Holy crap - the 512gb difference makes SO MUCH MORE SENSE. I was thinking that just that amount of disk space would be useful, but had no idea how much faster it would be. Is the 512 the same performance as a 1tb ssd internal and 32gb ram? Or will we see faster speeds with that config? Thanks for the reviews... love launch week.
great comparison. I'm looking for this kind of product comparison for a while. Thank you so much
Thank you! the information I was looking for
would love to see a comparisson where you upgrade only the SSD and only the RAM in another and compare wich one is more cost efficiency if you can only upgrade one.
Would love to see a 8gb 256 vs 16gb 256 to see how much does the swap affect in real world with chrome 5/10 tabs + 2-3 intel apps.
I am running 2 intel app consistently + multiple tabs and it takes up a ton of CPU at average 14gb memory use. had to give up my m1 Mac mini as it beach ball me consistently.
Good suggestion. Ram is faster than any SSD swap, even with 2x NAND chips. My guess would be unless you need to R/W to the SSD in your workflow, and routinely transfer > 100 gigs of files, the 16gb 256 will be fine.
No forst let's try 8go 256 vs 8go 512
@@Bambotb meh. Not as interesting. The m1 256 is way faster than the m2 256 on huge data transfer tasks. No reason to think the m2 512 would be much different from the m1 256
@@Bambotb - Agreed - given 8Gb 512 is likely the lowest end M2 MacBook Air that can be recommended.
I ordered the 16gb of RAM 256gb SSD M2 Air myself in Midnight. I think it’ll be perfectly fine for daily use and non-heavy tasks. The biggest problems with these reviews is how heavy they test them and the intensity of the tests. Most of them are tests that someone buying a MBP would care about, not a MBA.
Been waiting for this comparison. Great video!
Thank you for the great detailed comparison and insight into the workings of these machines.
Gotta say, I didn't expect that much of a difference between the 2. It would have been nice for the M2 to follow M1's example with RAM usage, optimization and SSD speed. These 2 Mac look more like totally different machines.
They are, quite literally, different machines. The comparison is almost pointless. It's a powerful MBP vs. a basic MBA. 0 surprise there are big performance differences.
Wow, literally shocked at how the slower SSD took 6 times longer to transfer the 114GB file, definitely not twice as slow like you could be forgiven for expecting!
Very Informative! Thank you!
thank you for putting the effort in all these testing videos, I really appreciate it
Honestly it was MacOS’s dependency on swap memory that pushed me to get the 512GB variant of the M1 over the 16GB of RAM. I felt like, if it’s going to use swap as a primary function, I want more SSD space so that it can functionally tolerate the swap for a few years longer than a 256GB variant would. Making the M2 base version have an SSD that is half as fast as the M1’s, while still relying heavily on swap at the OS level, is a lethal combination. Thank you guys for proving that with this test.
By the time the SSD hits R/W limits, you’ll be long gone, the SSD will be heavily corroded, or you’ll be 10 generations of MacBook behind. Heck, we all might even be in the VR matrix already by the time your SSD hits it’s write limit.
@@Android-nv7gu I know all of that now, but at the time M1 was new, a lot of creators and consumers were pointing out that their TBW was significantly higher than what was to usually be expected. I remember one horror story where a user had achieved almost 17% of their TBW in just a couple of months of use. That was about the time I decided to spring for the 512GB just to be safe. In addition to the peace of mind, having double storage was also super cool, which was just another reason I opted for storage over RAM.
@@jordanr.4856 I can see that. Swap is also negatively impacted if you fill up the available storage space.
The file transfer speed difference really surprised me and along with the other tests. Well truth to be told even if I do decide to get an M2 MBA I'll only do some light note-taking, minor multitasking and not heavy-usage, however I do picture myself with a 14" MBP, but funding for that will take quite some time due to necessities needed.
Great video! Thank you for the work you're doing reviewing these beautiful machines. I hope for the best in a givaway.
Excellent analysis.... Thx for share it... I cleared many doubts...
Hope you can have a 8gb vs 16gb with the same 256gb SSD. 😊
Does it make sense to do that kind of testing?
Seems pretty obvious how that test will turn out.
The speed is due to one NaN so even if RAM was bumped up, the speed will be very similar between 8gb, 16gb will be slightly faster
Of coz the 16gb will do better. The bottleneck is the single nand on the base model.
I'd love to see a 256G M2 and a 512G M2 both with 8G RAM to see how much difference just the drive makes...
I agree! This comparison makes more sense since consumers will end up buying one or the other model and not usually do a custom order.
We all know the problem is the ssd and not the ram. In the end upgrading the storage to 512+ is top priority. Ram won’t do much with 256
@@Neko_Nugget I agree upgrading the storage is the best value. 256GB isn't enough for a laptop these days even if there wasn't the speed issue - I currently own a 512GB M1 Air. But still wonder how much more extra ram was helping the 512GB model - there was a lot of swap file usage with the 8GB model.
Great video! I really like all the tests you do on your videos!
Thank you guys for putting so much efforts in your videos and giving us priceless information.
Wow! Great comparison. Apple did a great job on setting huge differences between 2 variants. Something they did not do with the M1 Macbook Air. That old model was and maybe still is the best laptop overall for almost 2 years now and probably will still be for another year. Thanks for this comparison video.
Great review. Was looking forward for this m2 air but you guys just saved me $1000 CAD to pass on a m2 512/16 and go with a refurb based m1 air.
Excellent comparison. Thanks for that.
Great video thanks
You guys are doing a great job with the in depth analysis and comparisons. Keep up the great work. It is invaluable when choosing a machine to fit your workload and knowing it's limitations.
I think 16Gb needs to be the base model !!
Great and informative content guys ✨️
These are really amazing videos, very informative. Keep it going and tks a lot 😊
This is really not expected, 6 times faster in some cases. It was a really surprise to me, I wasn’t expecting that much difference between the 2 configurations 😱
how does the performance improve when you just upgrade the storage to 512gb? or just the ram to 16gb? can you test those. Then we'll be able isolate each variable sepeeately and figure out exactly how much performance impact each one (the ram and the storage) has
Great vid. Thank u
Thank you for the video!
I am so appreciative that you are doing these test and exposing Apple’s shortcomings on the base M2 MBA model. Where’s the integrity of Apple providing some indication of performance expectations on the different models of the M2 MBA. I’m a bit disappointed with Apple.
Great video again. It would be nice to see the differences between the M1 Air 16GB + 512GB version and the same M2. Do you planning to do it? I mean, I would be glad to see which would be better for my workload… and of course for my wallet in this case :)
thanks for this video, very nice!
thanks for the reivew!! really helpful
The ssd speeds differences are so huge! We’ll basically pay for the speed more than the extra storage on the 512GB model.
Assuming that 256GB storage is enough, which it isn’t today for most users.
And the worst thing is that... It was intended by the manufacturer
512GB should be default on this day and age , classic apple ofcourse
I hope to see the MBA M2 with 16GB ram and 512GB disk compare with MBP 14" M1 with same config. since the price is pretty close after upgrading the MBA.
That's amazing....Very helpful. Thank You!
You all are doing truly astounding position. I truly love to watch your recordings cause, I'm interested to find out about the innovation that update regular. So thank you Max Tech for refreshing us and for the MacBook M1 give way.
It's great to see that 16Gb smashed 8Gb in some tests. I consider 8Gb as too low rAM in 2022 in a laptop with price tag of over £1000
Pm me ⬆️ have something for you,,
8GB ram is nowadays AT BEST (!!!) ok for cheap, entry level netbooks or super small PCs for children/office, nothing more....
midclass smartphones have more RAM... isnt that enough facts?
It's crazy to see how good of an option last year's M1 Macbook Air due to its cheaper starting price and better ssd configuration.
And that’s where the new form factor comes in. It plays with you.
great video, thank u for everything
Thank you, for share the info of the two Mac book air, and before getting one for my editing
Very eye opening! Would be curious to see the 256 vs 512 with both 8 GB of RAM
That is the perfect comparison.
A different RUclips channel did a comparison between the MBP M2 8GB 512 and MBP M2 16GB 256, to answer the question which upgrade is better: RAM or SSD. I know it's about the MBP (better cooling) but based upon importing/exporting tasks in apps like Lightroom/FinalCut/CaptureOne and processing large files in Photoshop, the M2 16GB 256GB was mostly faster. Obviously the 16GB 512 will be even faster, it's no rocket science. If you can spare 400USD on upgrades, I would buy the Pro.
The difference in performance compared to the base model aside, the M2 16Gb/512Gb model seems to be a powerful machine, with great performance. Yes, at that price point the 14” Pro might be an alternative, but the latter does not come in that gorgeous midnight color! Choices, choices…
No brainer. Lots to gain with the 14 pro. Mini led, 120hz, in built fan.
Thanks for great video
Great and detailed comparison! Thanks!
Enjoying this series of videos, and definitely agree that more ram is definitely needed. All modern OS's have become such resource hogs that 8gbs is the absolute bare minimum they can even get away with now.
I would not even say that 8GB is an acceptable minimum now.
@@DJDTHTRP Absolute bare minimum, and acceptable are completely different. It's obvious that Apple is trying to cut corners where they can with this anyway. Not to mention they haven't properly optimized their OS in forever.
@@gus_bz No you still need more ram. The faster SSD helps, but it doesn't replace it. That isn't the way swap files work.
The air is just for normal use. And for that, it is more than enough.
But for productivity, I personally would choose the $2000 M1 pro 14" than charging $400 + on the base model air ( $1600 ).
Great comparison ! Thx
Thanks for the videos!
I think SSD is less important (apart from loading a file initially) if you have sufficient RAM to work with.
I have the base one. It’s my portable, light laptop. Happy with the price i paid for it. To get the 16gb/512gb, i would have spent an additional $500 CDN. I don’t use it for any photo/video/code processing, just fairly normal use like most people, email, web, etc, so these use cases mean nothing to me. You’d think from RUclips vids EVERYONE wants to make 4K vids. I have made the mistake of many upgrades from new before, but in reality, I’ll prob use this for a few years, sell it for a good amount or pass onto a family member, then get whatever the newest tech apple has, M4,M5, etc.
Amazing video. Great tech advise. Thx
Great video. Very eye opening.
Great comparison video! This is really making the decision between M2 MBA vs 14-inch M1 Pro even harder.
I’m tempted to get the 24GB MBA since my 32GB intel MBP often only has ~5GB free. As a developer, running both Android Studio and Xcode with their respective emulator/simulators open (along with 50 or 100 tabs, etc) doesn’t make me think 16GB would be enough, even if the M series is more efficient with memory than intel. The compile test in the video is great to see, but isn’t indicative of real world developer usage given the other dependencies a dev might have open that’s consuming memory (i.e. docker).
Sure, I should probably go 14-inch MBP, but if the 24GB air gets me most (or all) of the way there, that MBA form factor is super appealing! I wish there were more comparisons about the size/weight differences between the 14-inch pro and the M2 MBA in day-to-day use.
@@eyesc I think you’re right. I’m leaning more towards the 14”. I was on a zoom call tonight for 2 hours with my 2019 Intel 16” MBP on my lap, and at the end of it I realized the thing was making me so hot I was sweating, lol. The thermals on the 8 core 14” seem to be pretty cool based on reviews, which is a plus for me. I wonder what a 2 hour zoom call would do to the thermals on the M2 MBA (or even if compiling a few successive changes relatively quickly back to back). I wonder how hot it’ll get on the lap 🤔
In my case, I don’t use much storage, my current 256gb 2019 Mac air is fine, and I also don’t transfer any files. So if I was to get a new laptop, I would opt for the 16gb ram instead of 512gb storage because then you hardly ever need to use swap in the first place, almost making the issue go away
Thanks for your reviews, love your channel
Great video. Thanks for all the pertinent info.
It’s crazy to see how much of a difference there is in performance by just upgrading SSD and RAM. Are you going to announce the specs of the model you are giving away? After seeing your comparison videos, I hope it’s not the base model 😀
😅
Crazy how much influence the dual-SSD configuration has versus the amount of RAM.
crazy
Great Segment. Thank You for showing the difference MBA M2 between 8GB and 16GB RAM, since I'm in the middle saving money for MBA 16GB RAM for my work and studying. Purchasing MBP is a bit over budget. Much Appreciate It.
Such a great and practical comparison of the two models! Especially with all the real-world examples
Seems the base model just won’t meet my needs. The extra ram and addition SSD storage makes a massive improvement. Thanks for doing the tests!
Woah, I didn’t expect such a huge difference
It makes it even more upsetting that Apple didn’t opt for a 512GB base model
Think you’ve missed the point of the video, it was the RAM that helped
specially on that file transfer. basically a shot in the knee if you bought the base ssd version of it :O
and further they say 8 gb ram will just do fine ( rofl)
@@skeche Either will help. If you dont have much RAM you need a fast SSD. If you dont have a fast SSD you need more RAM.
@@skeche so would 16/256 suffice? I’m a student on a budget and want the M2 but don’t want to spend £400 for 16/512 if I don’t have to. I have a 1T external hardrive for storage.
Ether way you going to pay with apple so does it really matter 1100 for a base model or 1400 for base
Exactly the comparison I was looking for. Thanks Max Tec
Great review, very complete and informative
We need to see a comparison of M1 16 GB / 512 GB compared to the M2 16 GB / 512 GB. I believe this will really show the difference between the difference between M1 and M2.
Thanks for another great review! Never imagined SSD could have such big impact!
So, effectively, M2 base model is somewhat a ‘downgrade’ compared to M1 base model - but expensive? Interesting to see their comparison…
As always, a great video. Hope you guys surpassed that million subscribers goal even faster than what you expected.
Take care.
Great video with so much explanation. Love them
Would love to see the 16gb 256gb vs base model or vs 16gb 512gb
Thanks for the content!