Best review video when it comes to the GB70. Great testing. I liked no battery and no video editing/cutting when you were cranking for 15 sec at a time over and over again. This video sold me on it.
How long ago was this? That same unit is about done. You can still get one jump from it, maybe less than 10 seconds of cranking. So what is this, maybe 5 years? 4?
I contacted NOCO Customer Service yesterday by online chat. I asked them about leaving it connected up to 5 minutes after start up to drive the vehicle into a repair bay. They told me it should be disconnected with in a few seconds after start up to avoid damaging the unit.
+ScannerDanner Premium I had an anti-gravity lithium Ion Micro Jump Box and the warning on removing it right away after starting was in the instructions. It said if you didnt remove it, damage could occur and it was not covered under the warranty. I dont expect it to blow up or fail on the first time it gets left hooked up too long, but probably wont last as long as it would have otherwise lasted had you followed the instructions.
+ScannerDanner Premium Yo, You might want to have a look at this pack: www.amazon.com/1byone-New-Release-Multi-Function-Ultra-bright/dp/B00QPQD1NQ/ref=sr_1_2?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1447243026&sr=1-2&keywords=lithium+jump+starter It claims that once the vehicle is running, that it can recharge itself from the vehicle through the clamps (assuming its alternator is working). if one can get around the 30 second timer for how long it enables power then it could be very useful as it can be left connected, and as it can self recharge, it means that it could last a while in a classroom environment without needing to be charged from mains.
I have been using mini boosters for some time now. I bought my first one from Matco 3 yrs ago. It's smaller than an iPad mini, and serves as a power supply for anything with a USB cable. It works pretty good, but the only flaw is the crappy booster cables. At least for a technician, they don't last. It's definitely an emergency use jumper. And very competent at that.
Just received my GB70 last week. I am impressed with your crank test. Each try at cranking is about 10-15 quick starts of a system that has a low battery. That poor starter is probably too hot to even touch. I never crank longer than 5 seconds. That GB70 is VERY capable. Thanks for trying to kill it.
BTW Mr Danner, don't let anyone give you crap for product reviews. I don't buy anything now a days without looking at the reviews first. This is a real world review. It could save someones life.
+Garrett Martin I just need to make sure if I'm doing these in the future to do what I did in the part 2 video. Let's truly test the thing and show what it can do.
I'm a diesel mechanic. I bought 2 of these. had a 2006 sterling with a 12.8L mbe4000 mercedes diesel. truck had 2 batteries with enough power to make the truck turn over 1/2 of a revolution. hooked up a fully charged GB70 and it jumped started it with no problem!! very awesome tool!
that is quite impressive, I remember early jump packs being the size of a breeze block. the joys of lithium battery technology, agreed about the battery being internally shorted hampering the ability to jump the car. Another great vid mr danner.
I just ordered the GB40 and I believe that if you leave the boost connected after starting the vehicle it should start recharging your battery the same way it is supposed to recharge any other device that it is made for, but I am speculating. "Great Job Big Guy"
John quite a few late model vehicle mostly high end euros have a specific battery code on the battery that is programed into the vehicle. if you don't take it to the dealer of you know how to do it yourself the vehicle will not start so at what point does a discharged euro need a reset I don't know and I guess Paul will let us know as his review goes on. Paul would know far more than I, I have no experience on euros and this info is from what I have read.. Friend tried to use one of these style of boosters on his BMW e46 and it did nothing, not saying this one is the same, this one Paul was using looked far more advanced. Take Care Steve
I have been looking at getting one of these,and AM impressed.Was trying to decide between this and a Rugged Geek.Guess next you had to back up the car and sweep up all the starter brush dust that piled up:-).Job security,bring 'em back for a starter replacement,lol.Thanks for sharing this!
NOCO has a 150 with 4000 cranking amps coming out in December. They claim it will roll over a monster diesel engine in -30f weather. it weighs in at about 9Lbs. l have the gb70 now and it's absolutely amazing, I'll be getting the 150 as well!
impressionante o potencia de partida, aqui no brasil ainda não vi e não conheço nenhum mecânico que tenha esse aparelho! adorei! qual a potencia em corrente?
Great for cars, you could ask for anything better.I would like to see what it will do with a diesel pick pickup, with both batteries unhooked !Thank you Dennis
Question, I will purchase it in the USA and will bring it home on an public airline, can the cables be detached from the battery unit? So far I know that you can travel with these lithium batteries as carry on luggage and not checked luggage, but my fear is those cables.. with the crocodile clamps, would look threatening to the TSA authorities... please, advise. thanks, Juan from Argentina.
beats the hell out of carrying around a back pack and how many times are you going to have to jump a car in a day anyway, for me it's not more than once or twice. i like it. thanks danner.
my question would be if you didn't use and let sit for extended periods without use affect internal batteries and how many times it could be recharged.probably best for someone in the field.
I dunno if you access to a 13L+ Diesel Engine but, a dry/cold start with 4 bad batteries would be interesting. Especially because they are branding it HD. If that can start a 13L+ with 4 dead batteries on a 30 or lower degree day I will be impressed. So much so I would actually buy one. and yes I am the same guy that gave you a hard time before I have no problem being proven wrong and accepting it but, with it being HD I would like to see that.
I am a big rig tech man. I hate lugging that huge heavy 4 battery jump box out to a truck 3 football fields away. Especially in the snow and it is not like you are going to be lifting something that is pushing 300lbs to put it on the back catwalk. So that is 2 trips for 1 truck. You said it that it has 2000 Amps. Most big rig batteries range from 950-1120CCA. If one battery is good even with it cold it normally will start. Some require 2 but, rarely any more. I swore Rosedale had diesel. Least you could do is try it on a diesel.
+UberArchangel we do but they are in a different building. NOCO says it is for a 6.0L diesel and 8.0L gas max so I doubt it would be good for what you mentioned. I'll be using it some more in my field work for sure, so you'll get a better idea of what it does in the future. Thanks man
You happen to know how long it will provide 12v to run diagnostics on electrical circuits? That's the problem I run into most of the time, being a mobile tech. My larger jump pack has gotten to where it will only hold 12v for a couple hours.
For mobile diagnostics, where you need long key on times and multiple crank times for no start vehicles, this is not your tool. All of these little jump packs do not carry the reserve capacity needed to do our kind of work properly.
You could leave it on there if it was LiFe chemistry. Come to think of it, it's probably LiPo. The volts it's putting out (12.1) at its displayed 100% charge rating suggest it is a 3-cell LiPo. A fully charged LiPo cell is 4.2 volts but it drops off from 4.2 down to about 4.15 volts after resting. 4.15 x 3 is about 12.45 volts. Your 12.1 would be indicative of a 3-cell LiPo that is about 90% charged. Very different chemistries, and a 3-cell LiPo has a fully charged voltage of 12.6 volts. It would not appreciate getting 14.7-15.25 volts pushed into it. LiFe chemistry s 3.6 volts per cell fully charged, which makes a 4-cell LiFe battery a good replacement for lead acid (depending on what kind of vehicle it's being used in).
That's too bad they had you review it before people can buy it. I would have bought it and I'm sure a bunch of your other usual subscribers would have as well. So now it will have to be something we remember, and with my memory...
The GB70 has a 2 year life span especially if you keep it in your vehicle and is susceptible to large temperature changes it will stop charging the battery
@@ScannerDanner i just bought one of these on sale and going off the 2015-16 era youtube mechanic analysis coupled with most recent follow up seems to indicate you won't be receiving another free tester because that first round did the promotional trick. it seems capable of powering an electric hotplate through fused 12v inverter in the back of a uhaul tho no?
that pack is probably 6 ultra caps in series, at 2.7v a piece you got a max of 16.2v before you blow a cap. nice pack though and would be something nice to have, that alternator tho seems to have a malfunctioning regulator.
+ScannerDanner optional charge point of a 12v system is 14.8v, so most are regulated to around there. yes most stuff in a automotive system is safe till high 16v, but charging at ~15.5v with battery did seem a bit off for the system. that could be just a issue with the field pickup on the alternator, but main issue I see is you might be getting close to the gassing voltage of a 12v lead acid.
I thought most cars with electronics wont start at under 12volts even though they crank because of the computers? Would you recommend this charger over the Schumacher PSJ-2212 for a 2500hd 6.0gas?
+ScannerDanner also I did this review for them because it was given to me. I am not endorsing or promoting this product (well I guess I am helping to promote it) as better than the others on the market. I just showed what this one can do. Thanks for watching
If you have the choice between checking the manual and blowing something up, you should always ignore the manual. Does this even need to be pointed out?
+Baerchenization What the users manual says (as far as leaving it connected to a running vehicle) "once you have started your vehicle, disconnect the battery clamps and remove the GB70". There are No cautions, no warnings at all as far as leaving it connected to a running vehicle or that it should be removed immediately.
+Baerchenization I just told you what the owners manual said. If I said that in the video then you are correct. I should have cover my bases better. My thought was if it was going to be damaged or catch on fire, I would rather have it happen to me on camera.
You are correct. Safety is basically pretty much the only thing that it's in the way. Boeing 787 aircraft is the greatest example, in the past, aircraft are using Lead acid batteries to run the avionics on-board till Boeing 787 design. For the first 2 years of the aircraft released, Boeing ran into battery trouble from over heating to fire. Li-ion is very powerful at the same time it is very dangerous if it become overheat or when gets into an accident.
+ScannerDanner Yo, You might want to have a look at this pack: www.amazon.com/1byone-New-Release-Multi-Function-Ultra-bright/dp/B00QPQD1NQ/ref=sr_1_2?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1447243026&sr=1-2&keywords=lithium+jump+starter It claims that once the vehicle is running, that it can recharge itself from the vehicle through the clamps (assuming its alternator is working). if one can get around the 30 second timer then it could be very useful as it can be left connected, and as it can self recharge, it means that it could last a while in a classroom environment without needing to be charged from mains.
I,m definitely impressed. Yes another 6 month update is a great suggestion.
+White Tiger for sure
Best review video when it comes to the GB70. Great testing. I liked no battery and no video editing/cutting when you were cranking for 15 sec at a time over and over again. This video sold me on it.
How long ago was this? That same unit is about done. You can still get one jump from it, maybe less than 10 seconds of cranking. So what is this, maybe 5 years? 4?
I contacted NOCO Customer Service yesterday by online chat. I asked them about leaving it connected up to 5 minutes after start up to drive the vehicle into a repair bay. They told me it should be disconnected with in a few seconds after start up to avoid damaging the unit.
+Patrick Curran that sucks. I'll have to leave mine connected to a running vehicle for longer than I did in this video as a test
+ScannerDanner Premium I had an anti-gravity lithium Ion Micro Jump Box and the warning on removing it right away after starting was in the instructions. It said if you didnt remove it, damage could occur and it was not covered under the warranty. I dont expect it to blow up or fail on the first time it gets left hooked up too long, but probably wont last as long as it would have otherwise lasted had you followed the instructions.
+ScannerDanner Premium
Yo, You might want to have a look at this pack:
www.amazon.com/1byone-New-Release-Multi-Function-Ultra-bright/dp/B00QPQD1NQ/ref=sr_1_2?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1447243026&sr=1-2&keywords=lithium+jump+starter
It claims that once the vehicle is running, that it can recharge itself from the vehicle through the clamps (assuming its alternator is working).
if one can get around the 30 second timer for how long it enables power then it could be very useful as it can be left connected, and as it can self recharge, it means that it could last a while in a classroom environment without needing to be charged from mains.
And I'm buying it! Been trying to find a good smaller boostpack. Thank you for the share.
I have been using mini boosters for some time now. I bought my first one from Matco 3 yrs ago. It's smaller than an iPad mini, and serves as a power supply for anything with a USB cable. It works pretty good, but the only flaw is the crappy booster cables. At least for a technician, they don't last.
It's definitely an emergency use jumper. And very competent at that.
Just received my GB70 last week. I am impressed with your crank test. Each try at cranking is about 10-15 quick starts of a system that has a low battery. That poor starter is probably too hot to even touch. I never crank longer than 5 seconds. That GB70 is VERY capable. Thanks for trying to kill it.
BTW Mr Danner, don't let anyone give you crap for product reviews. I don't buy anything now a days without looking at the reviews first. This is a real world review. It could save someones life.
+Garrett Martin I just need to make sure if I'm doing these in the future to do what I did in the part 2 video. Let's truly test the thing and show what it can do.
I'm a diesel mechanic. I bought 2 of these. had a 2006 sterling with a 12.8L mbe4000 mercedes diesel. truck had 2 batteries with enough power to make the truck turn over 1/2 of a revolution. hooked up a fully charged GB70 and it jumped started it with no problem!! very awesome tool!
+Johnie Davis cool man
A destructive test is worth a thousand opinions. Nice testing.
that is quite impressive, I remember early jump packs being the size of a breeze block.
the joys of lithium battery technology, agreed about the battery being internally shorted hampering the ability to jump the car.
Another great vid mr danner.
I just ordered the GB40 and I believe that if you leave the boost connected after starting the vehicle it should start recharging your battery the same way it is supposed to recharge any other device that it is made for, but I am speculating. "Great Job Big Guy"
So how is it holding up after almost 2 years? Good review, probably the best on this model.
Customer picks up car...comes back for no-start no-crank next week LOL
lmafo :))
+motoYam82 the price you pay for free labor :)
Very impressive technology.Product seems to have a lot of successful built-in safety circuitry as well.
I really like the by-pass feature! thanks.
wow that's impressive, how'd they manage to build a good booster in such a small case? im sold
+Samuel Gonzalez Lithium polymer batteries. Same as used in the RC hobby right now. Very high output batteries
Now that was impressive. Look forward to see in the future how it works on a late model computer controlled alternator or coded battery .
+Steve Rob what do you mean by coded battery?
John quite a few late model vehicle mostly high end euros have a specific battery code on the battery that is programed into the vehicle. if you don't take it to the dealer of you know how to do it yourself the vehicle will not start so at what point does a discharged euro need a reset I don't know and I guess Paul will let us know as his review goes on. Paul would know far more than I, I have no experience on euros and this info is from what I have read.. Friend tried to use one of these style of boosters on his BMW e46 and it did nothing, not saying this one is the same, this one Paul was using looked far more advanced. Take Care Steve
I have been looking at getting one of these,and AM impressed.Was trying to decide between this and a Rugged Geek.Guess next you had to back up the car and sweep up all the starter brush dust that piled up:-).Job security,bring 'em back for a starter replacement,lol.Thanks for sharing this!
haha yeah, I did cook that starter a little.
The booster pack seems to work well for its size.
paul put a carbon pile load test on that booster with amp. clamp. but i'm sold, the boost mode does its job better than i expected.
nice job of doing the "What ifs?" love that
NOCO has a 150 with 4000 cranking amps coming out in December. They claim it will roll over a monster diesel engine in -30f weather. it weighs in at about 9Lbs. l have the gb70 now and it's absolutely amazing, I'll be getting the 150 as well!
+Paul Babcock I want one of those!
impressionante o potencia de partida, aqui no brasil ainda não vi e não conheço nenhum mecânico que tenha esse aparelho! adorei! qual a potencia em corrente?
Thanks for the in-depth review Paul.
It's very handy tool but I can't have in Australia. Thanks Paul.
Scanner Danner, that would have come in real handy in Panama with that chevy.
First comment 😆
I gotta get one these for my car. All the jumper cables in the world wont help if no one stops to help. Cool lil gadget.
+Garrett Martin I had jumper cables at a race track and it took me a hour to find someone that would give me a jump. lol
Great for cars, you could ask for anything better.I would like to see what it will do with a diesel pick pickup, with both batteries unhooked !Thank you Dennis
Question, I will purchase it in the USA and will bring it home on an public airline, can the cables be detached from the battery unit? So far I know that you can travel with these lithium batteries as carry on luggage and not checked luggage, but my fear is those cables.. with the crocodile clamps, would look threatening to the TSA authorities... please, advise. thanks, Juan from Argentina.
amazing starting power here in Brazil have not seen and do not know any mechanic that has this device! I loved it! which the current power ?
this is a good experimental
Wonders when this booster will be available,
wtbm123 It's available now. 2017
beats the hell out of carrying around a back pack and how many times are you going to have to jump a car in a day anyway, for me it's not more than once or twice. i like it. thanks danner.
+prmayner me too, can't wait to take it to camp with me to blow up my air mattress :)
Would u buy this again? Is it still working? Looking for Christmas gift ideas
my question would be if you didn't use and let sit for extended periods without use affect internal batteries and how many times it could be recharged.probably best for someone in the field.
+joe mizenko time will answer that for us bro.
I dunno if you access to a 13L+ Diesel Engine but, a dry/cold start with 4 bad batteries would be interesting. Especially because they are branding it HD. If that can start a 13L+ with 4 dead batteries on a 30 or lower degree day I will be impressed. So much so I would actually buy one. and yes I am the same guy that gave you a hard time before I have no problem being proven wrong and accepting it but, with it being HD I would like to see that.
+UberArchangel lol your kidding right?
I am a big rig tech man. I hate lugging that huge heavy 4 battery jump box out to a truck 3 football fields away. Especially in the snow and it is not like you are going to be lifting something that is pushing 300lbs to put it on the back catwalk. So that is 2 trips for 1 truck. You said it that it has 2000 Amps. Most big rig batteries range from 950-1120CCA. If one battery is good even with it cold it normally will start. Some require 2 but, rarely any more. I swore Rosedale had diesel. Least you could do is try it on a diesel.
+UberArchangel we do but they are in a different building. NOCO says it is for a 6.0L diesel and 8.0L gas max so I doubt it would be good for what you mentioned. I'll be using it some more in my field work for sure, so you'll get a better idea of what it does in the future. Thanks man
UberArchangel Try the GB 150.
I would like to see what the amps are when you start to crank the eng, took some life off that starter on that honda:)thanks
+Jeremiah johnson sure did. My guess is the average amperage during the crank to be from 130 to 150 amps. I should have measured it. Sorry
You happen to know how long it will provide 12v to run diagnostics on electrical circuits? That's the problem I run into most of the time, being a mobile tech. My larger jump pack has gotten to where it will only hold 12v for a couple hours.
For mobile diagnostics, where you need long key on times and multiple crank times for no start vehicles, this is not your tool. All of these little jump packs do not carry the reserve capacity needed to do our kind of work properly.
Thanks. I suppose I will start looking for s larger jump pack similar to the one I have now. Will be a better option for me, I suppose.
You could leave it on there if it was LiFe chemistry. Come to think of it, it's probably LiPo. The volts it's putting out (12.1) at its displayed 100% charge rating suggest it is a 3-cell LiPo. A fully charged LiPo cell is 4.2 volts but it drops off from 4.2 down to about 4.15 volts after resting. 4.15 x 3 is about 12.45 volts. Your 12.1 would be indicative of a 3-cell LiPo that is about 90% charged.
Very different chemistries, and a 3-cell LiPo has a fully charged voltage of 12.6 volts. It would not appreciate getting 14.7-15.25 volts pushed into it. LiFe chemistry s 3.6 volts per cell fully charged, which makes a 4-cell LiFe battery a good replacement for lead acid (depending on what kind of vehicle it's being used in).
+KaldekBoch good info. thank you!
wow literally a spare battery. I did not expect it to work with no battery.
That's too bad they had you review it before people can buy it. I would have bought it and I'm sure a bunch of your other usual subscribers would have as well. So now it will have to be something we remember, and with my memory...
How much better would you say this GB70 is compared to the GB40?
don't know, this is the only model I have
never a lead acid battery would have a performance equal to that . What is the technology of internal baderia the GB70 BOOST HD ?
The GB70 has a 2 year life span especially if you keep it in your vehicle and is susceptible to large temperature changes it will stop charging the battery
Is that what happened to yours? Seems pretty pricey at $200 just for it to die in 2 years.
How is the unit, had it survived to this day?
It is about done. I can maybe get one jump out of it. And it has spent it's entire life in my truck (never worried about the heat and cold).
@@ScannerDanner i just bought one of these on sale and going off the 2015-16 era youtube mechanic analysis coupled with most recent follow up seems to indicate you won't be receiving another free tester because that first round did the promotional trick. it seems capable of powering an electric hotplate through fused 12v inverter in the back of a uhaul tho no?
that pack is probably 6 ultra caps in series, at 2.7v a piece you got a max of 16.2v before you blow a cap. nice pack though and would be something nice to have, that alternator tho seems to have a malfunctioning regulator.
+1mouse3 what makes you think that? Nothing wrong with 15v, especially with the battery removed from the picture
+ScannerDanner optional charge point of a 12v system is 14.8v, so most are regulated to around there. yes most stuff in a automotive system is safe till high 16v, but charging at ~15.5v with battery did seem a bit off for the system. that could be just a issue with the field pickup on the alternator, but main issue I see is you might be getting close to the gassing voltage of a 12v lead acid.
I thought most cars with electronics wont start at under 12volts even though they crank because of the computers? Would you recommend this charger over the Schumacher PSJ-2212 for a 2500hd 6.0gas?
+Stephen Cunningham no, normal cranking voltage is always under 12.
+ScannerDanner also I did this review for them because it was given to me. I am not endorsing or promoting this product (well I guess I am helping to promote it) as better than the others on the market. I just showed what this one can do. Thanks for watching
If you have the choice between checking the manual and blowing something up, you should always ignore the manual. Does this even need to be pointed out?
+Baerchenization What the users manual says (as far as leaving it connected to a running vehicle)
"once you have started your vehicle, disconnect the battery clamps and remove the GB70". There are No cautions, no warnings at all as far as leaving it connected to a running vehicle or that it should be removed immediately.
+ScannerDanner Premium "I don't remember seeing that in the owner's manual" - that would be the time to have another look...
+Baerchenization I just told you what the owners manual said. If I said that in the video then you are correct. I should have cover my bases better. My thought was if it was going to be damaged or catch on fire, I would rather have it happen to me on camera.
I like it!!!
do you sell auto parts like started ??
No
251 views, no thumbs down. Now that's impressive ! LOL !
+Billy R you should not have said that ....at 334 some a hole downed it
The good Lord made a A** for every seat !
can it start 2.0 diesel engine ?
It starts up my Mercedes Benz ML 320 diesel engine, hope the answer helps.
I had to drive my car with the booster attached as it would just die if I removed it.
260 Doggie dollars in the UK!! Man they take the p155 over here! (£133)
Yeah rip off Britain! Battery's!
+Steven Watson battery's = bastards dam auto corrupt
why do car makers just replace the battery with something like this!?!!! This was incredible! Why Lead Acid?
Brent Phillips Maybe it's a safety issue.
You are correct. Safety is basically pretty much the only thing that it's in the way. Boeing 787 aircraft is the greatest example, in the past, aircraft are using Lead acid batteries to run the avionics on-board till Boeing 787 design. For the first 2 years of the aircraft released, Boeing ran into battery trouble from over heating to fire. Li-ion is very powerful at the same time it is very dangerous if it become overheat or when gets into an accident.
AMP RATING
+Rolando Macias I assume this is a question? The rating on the tool says 2000 amps.
+ScannerDanner
Yo, You might want to have a look at this pack:
www.amazon.com/1byone-New-Release-Multi-Function-Ultra-bright/dp/B00QPQD1NQ/ref=sr_1_2?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1447243026&sr=1-2&keywords=lithium+jump+starter
It claims that once the vehicle is running, that it can recharge itself from the vehicle through the clamps (assuming its alternator is working).
if one can get around the 30 second timer then it could be very useful as it can be left connected, and as it can self recharge, it means that it could last a while in a classroom environment without needing to be charged from mains.
send it over and I'll see what it will do on a 15 liter cummins
+Ozzy ô 6.0L diesel max, 8.0L gas max is the ratings on the tool.
There are some for trucks. Some that even allow you the option of 12 and 24v
funny why my comment is blocked
my gb40 wouldn't turn over my 1500 diesel fiesta.rubbis
gb 40 is not rated for that size of engine if it is a v8
Fiesta with V8 lol :))))