4K vs 1080p resolution demo with thoughts on viewing distance and compression

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024

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  • @veeclash4157
    @veeclash4157 10 месяцев назад +21

    I must be blind because I can't tell the difference unless you zoom in!

    • @StefanRingelschwandtner
      @StefanRingelschwandtner  10 месяцев назад +15

      You've hit the nail on the head. The whole point of the video is to demonstrate that at a normal viewing distance, the difference between 2K and 4K is often indiscernible without zooming in. Your experience aligns perfectly with what was discussed in the video. Thanks for sharing your observation.

    • @svenknaepen9780
      @svenknaepen9780 6 месяцев назад

      true !

    • @shashwatmali3640
      @shashwatmali3640 5 месяцев назад +1

      because you are watching this video in 1080p

  • @ChadTerpstraOG
    @ChadTerpstraOG 2 года назад +7

    Very thoughtful presentation. I think this says a lot about compression on RUclips. A couple of other reactions, I would recommend you include some example images that are not close-ups or medium shots of actors. I've always found lower resolutions are more forgiving on human faces than on wide shots with a lot of details like city streets, etc. I'll also add that when viewing 4K in a theatrical environment with the right projector and screen, there is a perceivable enhancement in a well-produced 4K image with fine detail over 2K/1080p.

  • @lcadigitalmedia
    @lcadigitalmedia 3 месяца назад +2

    there is a very sutble difference, I can tell 4k over 2k but only when I'm really looking to spot the difference like on the iris; otherwise, 99% similar because 2160p is double the 1080p

  • @jordanmillraney5481
    @jordanmillraney5481 9 месяцев назад +1

    Whenever a source was mastered in 2K to start with, upscaling is required to bump it up to 4K to be sent out for a 4K UHD physical release. Although it won’t be as highly detailed with more depth like a true 4K picture would, the uptick in detail can be a hit or miss. There can be ones where they’re a subtle but noticeable upgrade and others that are sharper than their 2K/Blu-ray counterparts. The HDR/Dolby Vision palette can squeeze every ounce of color out of the image as possible and can look fantastic if done right.

  • @p.a.dconstructionltd4139
    @p.a.dconstructionltd4139 2 года назад

    I got the eos-m with magic lantern shooting 1080 / 2k raw and you have confirmed my suspicion. Great breakdown.

  • @PepperoniRonin.
    @PepperoniRonin. 7 месяцев назад +4

    me watching a 2k vs 4k comparison video on 720p thinking ill be able to tell the difference...

  • @RisingfromTheashes-jw4jy
    @RisingfromTheashes-jw4jy 10 месяцев назад +1

    The 2k upscaled to 4k(media player classic) looked the best

  • @mikefieselman
    @mikefieselman Год назад +2

    thank you for your work!

  • @JimRobinson-colors
    @JimRobinson-colors 2 года назад +4

    Nicely done, would like to see the comparison with film grain as well. My guess would be that it would be even harder to distinguish the differences. But given the youTube codecs, I think we still need to master to the 4k version for streaming - as I mentioned on FB, I wonder if running the 2k through Resolves Superscal would help as well? Nice job Stephen.

    • @StefanRingelschwandtner
      @StefanRingelschwandtner  2 года назад +3

      Thanks. As you can see in the beginning of the video with the "drill" image, RUclips is transcoding 1080p uploads into a "mushy image", and that is not just caused by compression. But besides RUclips a 2k image can look pretty much the same as a 4k image, (before compression) and over time the bitrate for 4k streaming will go down, and Steve Yedlin says in his video that this might couse a "downward spiral" thinking people... oh now 4k is not good enough anymore, we need 8k to get rid of artifacts, but the fact is that we will end up seeing more artifacts because we need even higher bitrates to make higher resolution image look good.
      But for RUclips I highly recommend uploading in 4k. 4K looks much better (based on transcoding and higher bitrate), but the fact is that a 2k image at a higher bitrate can even look better. ;)

    • @JimRobinson-colors
      @JimRobinson-colors 2 года назад +1

      @@StefanRingelschwandtner I think that the higher the resolution the more compression they use to capture the image in the first place. 8k capture is going to mean more compression - so one thing may negate the other.

  • @MrRandomnumbergenerator
    @MrRandomnumbergenerator 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for this!

  • @Chejov1214
    @Chejov1214 6 месяцев назад +1

    best video explanation about 2k vs 4k , file compression and viewing distances!! Stefan you are really great! thanks for the effort and time you put on this. My doubts were if I should invest in a 27 inch 4k monitor since I already have a 27 inch 1440p one.. Im always sitting around 60-72 cm away ( my desk is not too wide 77 cm). and in my 27 - 1440p I can't see any pixels pictures look sharp and clear ..

  • @leechurchill5182
    @leechurchill5182 4 месяца назад

    i used to bum over 4k but ive made the switch to 2k 300hz and ill never go back now.

  • @dual1971
    @dual1971 6 месяцев назад

    good presentation

  • @michaelthomas3821
    @michaelthomas3821 14 дней назад

    so here's my question: from what i've heard higher bit rates are helpful for live action. would 4k factor into that? obviously if the bit rate overflows your download bit rate, that's a problem but would it be noticeable if it didn't? things like American football, for example i've heard are used as examples. also: don't the codecs matter insofar as it they may code for 4k, but the quality is lowered to lessen the output bit rate? sort of like the quality setting for a jpeg. doesn't do much good if you have 4k but the codec has been dialed down to a much less quality.
    thx though. this was my suspicion overall.

  • @MilesCooper03
    @MilesCooper03 11 месяцев назад

    Very good video thank you 👍😎

  • @joecal2360
    @joecal2360 2 года назад +7

    Brilliant! Excellent analysis, and matches the observations of anyone with functional eyes and a brain. When will people learn that what they want is better bitrate/compression rather than resolution, and that yearly increases in camera resolution just make the problem worse, not better. Give me a pristine 1080p image over a low-bitrate 12K image any day of the week. Morons.

  • @brown2840
    @brown2840 2 года назад +1

    Great comparison, but one thing to consider is that you are using tight detailed shots. I imagine the difference would maybe be much more apparent with wider or more landscape shots.

    • @SageX85
      @SageX85 2 года назад +1

      Stilll, viewing distance is very important. That microdetail gets lost at certain distance, its more practical use is zoom & crop, not microdetail, unless you like to get up from your seat to see a static frame.

  • @cloudstrife7083
    @cloudstrife7083 7 месяцев назад +1

    4k is a waste now for gaming not productivity sweetspot now is 2k 1440p with all games running at ultra high fps high refresh rate etc

  • @farisakhtar4824
    @farisakhtar4824 Месяц назад +1

    2k is marketed as 1440p, which is what i thought this video was comparing 4k to. There is a very obvious difference between 1080p and 4k, there is a notable difference between 1080p and 1440p even.

  • @SageX85
    @SageX85 2 года назад +1

    So basically for viewing purposes, consumer use, 4K is kinda overkill, kinda useless, a waste of resources, like soon to be 8K. For production use, totally usefull.

  • @razvanv339
    @razvanv339 Год назад

    I am planning to buy a 27" monitor. for browsing and programming. Should I buy 4k or 2k? Thanks!

  • @yeren9980
    @yeren9980 9 месяцев назад

    Красавчик. Есть конечно чуток акцента русского, но в целом классно говоришь на англисском

  • @DhalonTech
    @DhalonTech Год назад +1

    Watching from 1080p ** 🤡🤡

  • @jeffreylevans
    @jeffreylevans 2 года назад +1

    1080 is 1K? 2K is 2560 x 1440

    • @StefanRingelschwandtner
      @StefanRingelschwandtner  2 года назад +4

      1080p = 1920 × 1080 pixel
      2k = 2048 × 1080 pixel
      Quote from Wikipedia: "For television and consumer media, 1920 × 1080 is the most common 2K resolution, but this is normally referred to as 1080p"

    • @originalface320
      @originalface320 Год назад

      Jeff you are more correct mate. 1440p is essentially a native 2k display.
      Referring to 1080p as 2k is a very old naming system. It's based on total megapixels like old digital camera sensor resolution. Based on that system a 4k monitor would now be called 8k because it displays 8.3 million pixels.

    • @G_handle
      @G_handle Год назад +4

      @@originalface320 No, actually you and Jeff are wrong.
      2K and 4K refer to the Horizontal Resolution.
      So 1920x1080 HD is close to 2000 or 2K, and likewise 3820x2160 UHD is also rounded up to 4000 or 4K.
      There IS however a discrepancy between consumer HD/UHD vs DCI 2K and DCI 4K, which are 2048x1080 and 4096x2160 respectively.
      Now, while I'm typing this on Dual 2560x1440 27-inch displays, those don't use HD/UHD/DCI classifications, but rather computer classifications, in this case QHD. Online some people call anything anything, and in the camera world I've heard this called 2.5K, but at least that mistake is attempting to demonstrate something.
      There's no "old naming system" and it has nothing to do with megapixels or camera sensor resolution. And actually if you want to know, 8K resolution is 7680x4320 UHD, & 8192x4320 DCI.

  • @pedrogurgel7822
    @pedrogurgel7822 10 месяцев назад

    for photo editing ok, but no one its gonna watch 200x zoom

  • @amal5987
    @amal5987 2 года назад

    🔥 ░p░r░o░m░o░s░m░

  • @yellowlinks
    @yellowlinks 9 месяцев назад

    i dont understand this comparison..
    are we talking about blurays or 2 vs 4k in general

    • @StefanRingelschwandtner
      @StefanRingelschwandtner  9 месяцев назад +2

      2k vs 4k in general. This video is proving that at normal viewing distances, the human eye cannot discern the difference between 2K and 4K resolutions.