I feel as though there’s a video game or some sort of pop culture reference here, but I can’t put my finger on it! Sounds like a Destiny reference to me, gonna be honest
Just saying, if so many people are deciding that rim brakes and steel frames are antiquated and backwards, I'd be happy to help them dispose of such obsolete artifacts.
I always wanted a Rivendell and was looking for light touring bike similar to the A. Homer Hilsen or Atlantis, but more affordable. So, when the Sam Hillborne came out in 2009 as a more affordable version of the Hilsen (a country bike) I bought it. I used it for my Pacific Coast tour carrying 2 rear panniers and a rando bag (~35 lbs of gear) and it was perfect. The best part is that it rides just as well unloaded, although all of my riding has been on paved roads with 700C x 35-38 mm tires and fenders. So, yes, Russ it makes a great touring bike.
Stepping off the new new new treadmill and onto the “this is a really nice bike” lane was the best bike decision I have made. Great bike for good times.
My son has a Riv Joe Appaloosa. We went on tour around Lake Michigan with him snd my nephews. We swapped bikes often. Everyone wanted to ride the Appaloosa, including me. That was 3 years ago. I am jealous of that bicycle.
I've been wanting to say thank you for your RUclips channel and website. I'm just returning to cycling after a multi year hiatus been working alot. Most of the cycling in my area is geared towards the super serious mountain bikes or roadies doing century's. I love the concept of party pace and the supple life! I've never raced and at this point in life I'm not likely to start. I never heard of Rivendell until this channel along with a bunch of other cycling companies you recommend but I love the old style meets newer technologies that it represents. Thanks again and party on!
James Huggins - I find Rivendell to be very particular about what they sell, and that’s a good thing. They don’t offer anything they don’t believe in. Everything I’ve bought from Rivendell has been top-notch without being overpriced. They’ll straight-up tell you to save your money, because “X” product is good enough. BTW, the MKS Grip Monarch flat pedal is utterly fantastic.
A Rivendell bike is an investment, built to last. Over time it will likely be the bike you ride most often. Quality *never* goes out of style. Love this review 👍🏻. PS, those Montana trails look awesome.
I'm still riding an early 80's Ritchie Ascent mountain bike, 26" wheels, motor home length chain stays, triple chain rings, only 6 speed cassette, full Deore XT, etc.. I stopped logging mileage after I retired 15 years ago, but I had over 80,000 trouble free kms logged at that point, with just the usual maintenance, chains, cogs, brake pads, tires being required.The bike is still going strong, super comfortable for a 73 year old curmudgeon like me. I had nice bikes, such as a custom built Marinoni and a Velo Orange Campeur, but with advancing age and deteriorating joints I'm down to the Ritchey and a Giant hard tail. Modern bikes impress me not a bit, and I'm happy with a simple bike that rides great (for my needs anyway) and can be fixed quickly and easily without a shop load of specialized tools. These are the kind of bikes I believe the majority of people need, but, each to his own.
It's called an algorithm. RUclips and other tech companies use them to enhance their platform and marketing. In other news, Rivendel is working with Bell Telephone to bring back kitchen mounted corded Telephones.
Form, function, and art on two wheels. Those of us that grew up seeing lugged steel may be considered retro, but there is a finesse, couture, and style that most modern bike makers have put way on the back shelf. There is a place for this and its usually something deep seated that defies words.
Very well said! I couldn't agree more. And , "Thanks Russ for exposing some viewers to 'Old school...Still cool'" Wait,,, maybe that's the next sticker?
I think you nailed the nailed the FEEL of a Rivendell. I’m a new and first time Rivendell owner and I agree The simplicity of components and rim brakes just feels good in a way that I can’t explain. It’s JUST a bike and it is amazing.
Russ you are absolutely correct I admit I’m old and maybe crabby but this industry is getting ridiculous, I wrench at an LBS and I absolutely love working on older bikes , I would love to punch the person that invented internal cable routing , the bicycle was invented to be a simple efficient machine, that was a tool used for transportation and pleasure not the latest and greatest fad . Love your channel.
RIV STUFF!! They’ve greatly influenced a lot of my philosophy on bikes, and have changed the way I ride and look at riding. Awesome content as always Russ!
As a Surly Pack Rat (650b, mid trail, rim brake) owner, I would say it's totally worth it to go with a quirky bike as long as it makes a pleasant and reliable ride.
I love Grant and Rivendell’s philosophy. However I cannot afford a Rivendell so I did the next best thing and bought a 1989 Bridgestone MB 2 and swapped out the mountain bike handlebars for drop bars
Very nice. Reminds me a lot of my old school 26r MTB and what I personally like about it. 853 steel, with tube profiles favouring comfort, easy to work on, simple, bolts can be got at, can work on it with eyes closed (and a bit of muscle sometimes!) Cruises nicely. Even the original review of the bike in the late 90s said, "A bike for relaxing and watching the views, very good ride". The seat stays are even wishbone for a better ride. Frame cost £500 back in the day (£1000 today), hand made by the finest here in England. The very best MTBs from that age that were set up for cruising are items of wonder, they will never age.
I've been buying old steel frame bikes because that is what I grew up with, but dealing with old components can be difficult. This bike would meet the need, if I could get one.
Agreed! Old skool simplicity makes way more sense than technological complexity followed by quick obsolescence. "It's just a bike." Right you are, Russ. Enjoy!
i bought a A.Homer Hilsen nine + years ago and have never regretted it! It has been the best platform I have ever had for whatever direction my biking has taken me. It handles well with upright/alt bars as well as with the new Spank Flare 25 degree bars and 30mm Discord stem I am currently using. It is so good for me that the only other bike I still own is just hanging as a frame in the workshop now. I have run it with a triple crank/9 speed cassette as well as a 1 X 11 with a 30T chainring and an 11-50 rear cassette. It maintains its balance throughout! It has far exceeded my expectations from nearly a decade ago. So, congratulations, Russ!!! Enjoy!!!
Love a steel frame with lugs. Its what i built for myself. But i made it with disc brakes and oversized tubes for rougher abuse. Fits 40 mm tires. I use mt bike bars for comfort and control in the dirt.
Thank you for this review! I ride my 48cm Sam almost every day in all weather and I consider it to be one of the greatest things I have ever owned (btw, I think you'll really like it with drop bars)! It seems a little ironic to me somehow, but recently I've been tempted to try something with brifters and disc brakes (I've never had either) and maybe even something set up as a 1x all due primarily to your excellent channel!
I recently picked up a Sam Hillborne out of the trash! I viewed the frame and thought that’s a quality build so I grabbed it and went straight to the internet since I had never heard of it. Hope to build some day!
2 years later and it's still a good video. -- comment/suggestion --> At 2:08 That IS NOT a BagBoy but a HappiSack. The BagBoy doesn't have side pockets and isn't as vertically deep (7.25"H as opposed 8.5"H). It's also 12" wide as opposed to 15.25". The way that that bag sags on your bike I think that you would be better served with a BagBoy or better still a SlimSucker (6"H). My Sam Hillborne is probably the next size taller than yours BUT my rack to saddle height is similar to yours and the HappiSack on mine sags EXACTLY like yours. I just got off the phone with Grant and though the 3 SlimSuckers left in stock right now are only available in that hideous blue, more of the other colors (like yours and mine) are coming in a couple of months. And whist I'm at it... The mini Nitto rack that fits the cool fork braze-ons ROCKS! I did that and zip tied a small basket to it with 12+ zip ties and secure stuff in it with 4-6 of those mini bungee cords. Reading this I hope that I didn't come off as an a*****e because I REALLY like your videos. Keep up the good work!!!!
Not crazy, I had a Riv-like bike built by a local builder because I was unable to obtain a Rivendell and I have ridden the wheels off that one. Today I purchased a pre-owned Riv Hunqapillar, so I finally have a Riv. This type of bike/riding is really the essence of cycling. No tights, special shoes, special tools, or fancy materials. We should not forget that people have ridden around the world on one speed bikes, fixed gear bikes and even high wheel bikes - just get out there and ride !
Well said! I get it...totally. Keep it simple. It is a bike. Yes, a beautiful bike. Just my speed, and I was salivating over this review, and when you mentioned that you purchased this one, I think my heart rate rose! Exciting!! I was looking at Rivendell bicycles some years ago, then got into Bike Fridays. You have now "influenced" me to revisit this bicycle company, if I ever buy a regular-sized bike again.
I have a Sam Hillborne, with drop bars. I run the Rene Herse 650Bcx38 Loup Loup Pass tires. Very comfortable, surprisingly efficient, a useful gear range in hilly western Washington. A great commuter, recreational rider, light tourer. Mine has the standard Riv grupo, bars, etc., and weighs around 25 lbs. It climbs surprisingly easy, I think due to the gearing, riding position, and the longer chainstays. If you generally ride in the mid to high teens, tnis bike won't slow you down. These are great all-around bikes, and do everything well... a jack of all trades bike.
I purchased the bosco bars for my vintage mtb/gravel setup. I was delighted to find out that with some gentle persuasion I was able to mount Shimano trigger shifters right up close by the stem.
Thank you for that review. I have been thinking of a Sam but was curious about it’s handling with an upright (albatross bar). You’ve given me some information that is much appreciated. Of course I don’t have gravel roads and use my bikes on pavement and like a nice cush ride for my back and hands.
I've owned a Sam since '09 and one of the builds featured an Albatross that is now on my wife's '82 Trek 613. I loved how it handled and road. Did tons of trail riding with that setup, and I never felt outmatched. Also did some 2-3 day tours and never missed a beat. It's currently set up with a Salsa Cowchipper, and it's my favorite iteration so far. We'll see what's next!
It makes total sense. Part of why I like my simple vintage bikes that I can upgrade or modernize little parts as I see fit. The big Benefit of bikes like the Riv is the tire clearance.
I think there is a sanity in buying a bike like that. The technology works, there is no need to over think the design and it is classically elegant. If at all possible could you trial some cargo bikes and a Mixte in terms of their ability to handle bike packing and gravel riding. Cheers👍
I get it. I respect and appreciate Rivendell, and ordered a lime-olive Sam frame sight unseen. Largely due to this excellent video. Russ is quite the cycling philosopher. Cheers!
This video just appeared in my notifications, yet it's time stamped Aug 31. ??? Definitely a beautiful, classy looking bike. I bet it's one of the best for leaving the world behind for a getaway. And it appears to be made to be modular, which I think is very important.
I really like my Sam bike...had been wanting to run some wider tires so your choice of the 650B and 47s seems perfect for me. I will investigate that setup. Thanks for posting.
Review a retro Scott Peak rigid mtb with the narrow bars! They're so fun! After a 60 day bikepacking tour and a few months of courier work on one I loved it to death. Now my preferred ride is a Cannondale Cujo with a 50t low gear, it's like riding a cloud.
There's nothing superficial about liking the way a bike looks, and that being part of the reason for buying it. It could be the best bike in the world.....but if you don't "like" it you're not going to ride it. I agree with everything in the review, bikes are getting too far from being the simple, yet efficient machines they've always been. I agree that the Sam is a fine looking bike too!
Hey Russ, I’m enjoying these upright bike makeover videos. I actually pimped my Surly by myself after having seen a video you made for Clever Cycles years earlier. It is such a joy to ride a bike that feels so comfortable around town and on tour. Thanks! I 2 wear crocs riding my bike.
You're not crazy to buy a Rivendell, I appreciate the simplicity of a bicycle. Tech has its place in the cycling world obviously but it is not the be all, end all. Truly is sad that a large portion of the population thinks you need the latest and greatest things to enjoy riding a bicycle. Lots of those same people never learn how to work on those same high tech bikes. Heck I have friends who I ride with who can hardly do anything mechanical on their bikes that really are simplistic in general. I'd like to know how you liked the Ultra Dynamico tires? Congrats on your purchase Russ, it really is a beautiful bicycle. Handmade craftsmanship is not dead and for that I'm grateful.
I have a Linus Roadster retro bike with an eight speed internal hub that isn’t light, fast or efficient. It’s so pretty, well-made, fun and simple that I just don’t care. In that regard, it’s similar to this bike and speaks more to the experience of biking than anything.
Yay! Nicely done. I've been waiting for a Riv review since I found your channel late last year. You pretty much nailed their philosophy imho. Long live lugs!
There is something to said for thinking different, not the way told by advertisers. That is why I like your channel. And indeed, Deore works. I would say it's better than the original XT or even the original XTR stuff. A pleasure to be taken in admiring something that "does the job" in a reliable way and will last, but even if fails will not be expensive to replace. Nothing wrong with 9 speed, esp. when have a front mech.
Wholeheartedly agree with the traditional perspective. New bikes are fine for the young and fast but at a certain point traditional bikes serve wonderfully
I really want to see it with drop bars. I ride a rim brake bike every day. This looks amazing. I’ve wanted a vintage looking 650b bike for a while. Cool bike, and definitely worth the buy.
Ugghhh I'm so jelly! I at least want those Bosco bars on my cruiser bike but with a single-bolt faceplate quill stem, and being a new biker, I dread the complexity and expense of swapping it out!
Even on the low cost end Riv bikes have influence people like me. I ride an 86 Schwinn Prelude I bought years ago for 100 bucks. It's decent quality butted chromoly frame where the main triangle is Columbus tubing and everything else is tange. I've tried the racy thing with a pricy gruppo and carbon fork etc. But have came to the full realization the bike will always be a "Sport-Tourer". Riv bikes have since been an inspiration for this build and larger nobbier tires, simple friction shifters have kept my bike a timeless classic.
Thanks for creating all of the reviews. Rivendell bikes seem perfectly "Modern Retro" to me. My first steel bike was a second-hand Viscount Sebring that I lovingly stripped and rebuilt, as a teenager. I just wanted to ask what the actual weight of your build is and perhaps a more complex question, what were the factors that made you choose the Sam over the A. Homer?
Well put it makes me shed a tear for my stolen trek 920 that I bought on CL for 100 bananas and rivved it out with a tall stem, lambda pedals and a few other bits i can't remember. I just hope someone is putting it to good use now.
Nice buy Russ! Always liked their stuff, because I am cheap I buy vintage stuff but if I had the scratch I would buy a riv. Got to test ride a Sam at Riv HQ many moons ago and recall coming back from the test ride with a big goofy grin on my face.
Love the review, and this approach to bikes. Stuff that works, is fun to ride (and can be set up faster than this one is), durable, not finnicky, and "will last plenty of product cycles." Even if you ride quite a bit faster than Russ, this is a great approach. Only place it doesn't translate to is racing (including race-y group rides and KOM attempts).
Stumbling over Rivendell a decade and a bit ago, and getting the book "Just ride" on the tail end of that is what got me interested in bikes again, after quite a long periode of trying to keep up with the Joneses in the MTB fraternity, riding horrible contraptions or not riding at all. Not that I have any of their bikes, but a fellow needs a grail to reach for or something along those lines. Someday it will be mine, if they make anything fitting my 6`8" clydesdale frame. Untill then, Surly it is. :-)
Just to add a thumbs up for the Sackville bags. I've been using the big bag for years for shopping and day rides (my touring days are largely over, alas) and although it was expensive - very! - I have never regretted the purchase. Fantastic construction and design - after five or six years of daily use it doesn't look like new anymore, but it is still in perfect working condition. I would definitely buy more Rivendell products if ti wasn't for their ridiculous shipping policy (to the EU). Too bad.
Very very nice bike! It remembers my dutch Gazelle bike, on which I did some travel in the past. Travel, Gravel, City bike. Retrò even better. I like it!
What a nice ride, Russ! I Wish you many happy miles on it. As you describe, the RBW bikes are beautiful, smooth riding and very capable machines. I considered the Sam H while looking for a bike but decided on the Atlantis (with Bosco bars). I like the Sackville lineup and am eager to hear your review of the Bagboy. I put a medium Wald basket on the front of my bike and use a Banana sack on the saddle. I load up a medium Shopsack with my weekly farmers market haul, stuff it in the basket and off I go homeward bound. Keep up the good work!
Hey Russ....don't know if you respond to comments from vids a year old, buuuut...I just ordered an A Homer Hilsen from Riv. 47.5. Concerned about what you mention about (lack of) reach with alt bars. I'm going Albastache, which do reach out for that more tucked position. Anyway, curious, if you care to disclose, how tall you are, inseam/ PBH...? Just to get an idea whether I'm in for it. I'm pretty confident it will work fine with drop bars. Thanks much for all your great work!
I knew this one would be a favorite of yours. Hope you enjoy the new ride - looking forward to some more action vids with the Riv. Hopefully not too many cave of bad ideas ahead for this one tho haha.
that bike is so so gorgeous!!! the chance of getting one is as good as getting a space shuttle on ebay. you look very cramped on the bike. nice review!!!
Thanks for this review! I’ve been considering buying a Sam H. for awhile and was wondering how a Riv would stand up to your wonderful review style. Specifically, I was curious how the Sam compared to the “new tech” and new frame materials/geometries you commonly review. Thanks for all the details! It’s time for me to sell the ebike, commuter, and brompton! :)
Definitely not as stiff as most modern bikes, but I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. Also the chainstay is unfashionably long. However, I have a Crust for those rides where I want to feel sporty. The Riv is the nice chill arounder.
@@PathLessPedaledTV I'm a proud owner of a Sam since '09. Agreed it's nowhere near as stiff as a modern bike--my only other bike is a 2017 Troll, so not a great comp, but still. My current setup features a VO stem w/ removable faceplate, Salsa Cowchipper, Dura Ace levers (paired with Tektro cr720s--don't knock 'em til you try 'em) + cross levers, and Shikoro 47s that barely fit but are oh so supple, and old school Riv Silver bar ends. It's a perfect bike.
An elegant weapon, for a more civilized age.
Also an elegant weapon from a more civilized age.
OK Boomer!
What movie?
I feel as though there’s a video game or some sort of pop culture reference here, but I can’t put my finger on it! Sounds like a Destiny reference to me, gonna be honest
It refers to a light saber
Star Wars
Obi W. Kenobi quote
Just saying, if so many people are deciding that rim brakes and steel frames are antiquated and backwards, I'd be happy to help them dispose of such obsolete artifacts.
Russ: a Croc wearing bicycle philosopher who lies awake at night thinking of handlebar options.
I don't like Crocs as much as I like Russ...and mustache bars
I love Crocs and Russ! :-)
Yessssss to the Crocs
I always wanted a Rivendell and was looking for light touring bike similar to the A. Homer Hilsen or Atlantis, but more affordable. So, when the Sam Hillborne came out in 2009 as a more affordable version of the Hilsen (a country bike) I bought it. I used it for my Pacific Coast tour carrying 2 rear panniers and a rando bag (~35 lbs of gear) and it was perfect. The best part is that it rides just as well unloaded, although all of my riding has been on paved roads with 700C x 35-38 mm tires and fenders. So, yes, Russ it makes a great touring bike.
Stepping off the new new new treadmill and onto the “this is a really nice bike” lane was the best bike decision I have made. Great bike for good times.
It is a beautiful bike. Grant Peterson's book had a profound influence on my cycling. I only ride steel bikes and I only use flat pedals.
My son has a Riv Joe Appaloosa. We went on tour around Lake Michigan with him snd my nephews. We swapped bikes often. Everyone wanted to ride the Appaloosa, including me. That was 3 years ago. I am jealous of that bicycle.
“Wild West Bars” I smell a new way to market our townie bars. 🤠
love my rim brake soma saga!! a poor mans RIV.
Riding an old Bridgestone MB-3 converted for commuting. Love it and built with Grant's philosophy for which I am grateful.
Yep! Just bought a 1989 MB-2. It will be my "country bike".
Don Huber enjoy!
In the year 2020 what actually makes sense is "SIMPLICITY" this is a crazy year. Reliable transportation that isn't difficult to work on or maintain.
It's not crazy at all. It seems to me we're getting further away from what makes a bike such a wonderful machine. Elegantly simple and efficient.
3 years, and I still love this bike! Much appreciation for showing this one to us! Hope you both are doing well.
I've been wanting to say thank you for your RUclips channel and website. I'm just returning to cycling after a multi year hiatus been working alot. Most of the cycling in my area is geared towards the super serious mountain bikes or roadies doing century's. I love the concept of party pace and the supple life! I've never raced and at this point in life I'm not likely to start. I never heard of Rivendell until this channel along with a bunch of other cycling companies you recommend but I love the old style meets newer technologies that it represents. Thanks again and party on!
James Huggins - I find Rivendell to be very particular about what they sell, and that’s a good thing. They don’t offer anything they don’t believe in. Everything I’ve bought from Rivendell has been top-notch without being overpriced. They’ll straight-up tell you to save your money, because “X” product is good enough. BTW, the MKS Grip Monarch flat pedal is utterly fantastic.
@@ClockworksOfGL thanks for information 👍
@@ClockworksOfGLI agree wholeheartedly and greetings from Australia
A Rivendell bike is an investment, built to last. Over time it will likely be the bike you ride most often. Quality *never* goes out of style. Love this review 👍🏻. PS, those Montana trails look awesome.
Three years later and this is the bike that he keeps as he moves overseas.
I'm still riding an early 80's Ritchie Ascent mountain bike, 26" wheels, motor home length chain stays, triple chain rings, only 6 speed cassette, full Deore XT, etc.. I stopped logging mileage after I retired 15 years ago, but I had over 80,000 trouble free kms logged at that point, with just the usual maintenance, chains, cogs, brake pads, tires being required.The bike is still going strong, super comfortable for a 73 year old curmudgeon like me. I had nice bikes, such as a custom built Marinoni and a Velo Orange Campeur, but with advancing age and deteriorating joints I'm down to the Ritchey and a Giant hard tail. Modern bikes impress me not a bit, and I'm happy with a simple bike that rides great (for my needs anyway) and can be fixed quickly and easily without a shop load of specialized tools. These are the kind of bikes I believe the majority of people need, but, each to his own.
Seeing this bike brought me back to a kinder & gentler era. Non-intimidating. One of quality, simplicity and class. Great review.
I mean if you don’t “get” Riv then what are you even doing here watching PLP? 😏
An excellent point.
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It's called an algorithm. RUclips and other tech companies use them to enhance their platform and marketing. In other news, Rivendel is working with Bell Telephone to bring back kitchen mounted corded Telephones.
@tedkay It was a joke about RBW being old-fashioned, but I think you might have just dated yourself in the process. 🙂 What's a corded phone?
Yes yes more just like this. I would love to see a “Gus” all decked out in tour mode with rack, paneers, frame bag and handel bar bag.....dream bike.
Form, function, and art on two wheels. Those of us that grew up seeing lugged steel may be considered retro, but there is a finesse, couture, and style that most modern bike makers have put way on the back shelf. There is a place for this and its usually something deep seated that defies words.
Very well said! I couldn't agree more. And , "Thanks Russ for exposing some viewers to 'Old school...Still cool'" Wait,,, maybe that's the next sticker?
I think you nailed the nailed the FEEL of a Rivendell. I’m a new and first time Rivendell owner and I agree The simplicity of components and rim brakes just feels good in a way that I can’t explain. It’s JUST a bike and it is amazing.
Damn right, finally someone understands that stiffness and compliance cannot be used in the same sentence. Good on ya laddie.
Congrats on your Riv. I love mine. 50,000 miles and still going. Getting a new Rich built wheel now. Next you'll want to upgrade to dyno.
If there ever was a bike that encapsulated the supple life, the Riv is it. And easy on the eyes to boot!
i'm a rivendell fan from way back. i love their philosophy on bikes, glad to see they are still making awesome stuff.
Russ you are absolutely correct I admit I’m old and maybe crabby but this industry is getting ridiculous, I wrench at an LBS and I absolutely love working on older bikes , I would love to punch the person that invented internal cable routing , the bicycle was invented to be a simple efficient machine, that was a tool used for transportation and pleasure not the latest and greatest fad . Love your channel.
RIV STUFF!! They’ve greatly influenced a lot of my philosophy on bikes, and have changed the way I ride and look at riding. Awesome content as always Russ!
It´s "just" a Beautiful, Well-made yet Humble, Supple, Steel Bicycle. 😍 Rare sights these days. Love your passionate speaking Russ, as always!👍🙌
As a Surly Pack Rat (650b, mid trail, rim brake) owner, I would say it's totally worth it to go with a quirky bike as long as it makes a pleasant and reliable ride.
Yes! So you actually bought the first Riv you ever rode! Big thumbs up for this whole series of videos.
I love Grant and Rivendell’s philosophy. However I cannot afford a Rivendell so I did the next best thing and bought a 1989 Bridgestone MB 2 and swapped out the mountain bike handlebars for drop bars
Dude! I have an MB-2! I would love to see a pic of your setup!
I’m not on any of the socials @racerx8410712 but you can check it out on my Strava @Luke Lopez 📬
Very nice. Reminds me a lot of my old school 26r MTB and what I personally like about it. 853 steel, with tube profiles favouring comfort, easy to work on, simple, bolts can be got at, can work on it with eyes closed (and a bit of muscle sometimes!) Cruises nicely. Even the original review of the bike in the late 90s said, "A bike for relaxing and watching the views, very good ride". The seat stays are even wishbone for a better ride. Frame cost £500 back in the day (£1000 today), hand made by the finest here in England. The very best MTBs from that age that were set up for cruising are items of wonder, they will never age.
I've been buying old steel frame bikes because that is what I grew up with, but dealing with old components can be difficult.
This bike would meet the need, if I could get one.
Agreed! Old skool simplicity makes way more sense than technological complexity followed by quick obsolescence. "It's just a bike." Right you are, Russ. Enjoy!
i bought a A.Homer Hilsen nine + years ago and have never regretted it! It has been the best platform I have ever had for whatever direction my biking has taken me. It handles well with upright/alt bars as well as with the new Spank Flare 25 degree bars and 30mm Discord stem I am currently using. It is so good for me that the only other bike I still own is just hanging as a frame in the workshop now. I have run it with a triple crank/9 speed cassette as well as a 1 X 11 with a 30T chainring and an 11-50 rear cassette. It maintains its balance throughout! It has far exceeded my expectations from nearly a decade ago. So, congratulations, Russ!!! Enjoy!!!
I have a size 59 Atlantis with those same bars: Spank Flare 25. LOVE the bike and bars!
So happy you bought it, everyone needs a country bike
Love a steel frame with lugs. Its what i built for myself. But i made it with disc brakes and oversized tubes for rougher abuse. Fits 40 mm tires. I use mt bike bars for comfort and control in the dirt.
I plan to get one when they are back in stock.
A well made vid from a well meaning host. A sane, beautifully "justa-bike". Refreshing. Thank you Russ.
Thank you for this review! I ride my 48cm Sam almost every day in all weather and I consider it to be one of the greatest things I have ever owned (btw, I think you'll really like it with drop bars)! It seems a little ironic to me somehow, but recently I've been tempted to try something with brifters and disc brakes (I've never had either) and maybe even something set up as a 1x all due primarily to your excellent channel!
Velo Orange Polyvalent. You might like that. I have one... and It's pretty good platform to do a build.
I recently picked up a Sam Hillborne out of the trash! I viewed the frame and thought that’s a quality build so I grabbed it and went straight to the internet since I had never heard of it. Hope to build some day!
2 years later and it's still a good video. -- comment/suggestion --> At 2:08 That IS NOT a BagBoy but a HappiSack. The BagBoy doesn't have side pockets and isn't as vertically deep (7.25"H as opposed 8.5"H). It's also 12" wide as opposed to 15.25". The way that that bag sags on your bike I think that you would be better served with a BagBoy or better still a SlimSucker (6"H). My Sam Hillborne is probably the next size taller than yours BUT my rack to saddle height is similar to yours and the HappiSack on mine sags EXACTLY like yours. I just got off the phone with Grant and though the 3 SlimSuckers left in stock right now are only available in that hideous blue, more of the other colors (like yours and mine) are coming in a couple of months.
And whist I'm at it... The mini Nitto rack that fits the cool fork braze-ons ROCKS! I did that and zip tied a small basket to it with 12+ zip ties and secure stuff in it with 4-6 of those mini bungee cords.
Reading this I hope that I didn't come off as an a*****e because I REALLY like your videos. Keep up the good work!!!!
Not crazy, I had a Riv-like bike built by a local builder because I was unable to obtain a Rivendell and I have ridden the wheels off that one. Today I purchased a pre-owned Riv Hunqapillar, so I finally have a Riv. This type of bike/riding is really the essence of cycling. No tights, special shoes, special tools, or fancy materials. We should not forget that people have ridden around the world on one speed bikes, fixed gear bikes and even high wheel bikes - just get out there and ride !
Well said! I get it...totally. Keep it simple. It is a bike. Yes, a beautiful bike. Just my speed, and I was salivating over this review, and when you mentioned that you purchased this one, I think my heart rate rose! Exciting!! I was looking at Rivendell bicycles some years ago, then got into Bike Fridays. You have now "influenced" me to revisit this bicycle company, if I ever buy a regular-sized bike again.
I have a Sam Hillborne, with drop bars. I run the Rene Herse 650Bcx38 Loup Loup Pass tires. Very comfortable, surprisingly efficient, a useful gear range in hilly western Washington. A great commuter, recreational rider, light tourer. Mine has the standard Riv grupo, bars, etc., and weighs around 25 lbs. It climbs surprisingly easy, I think due to the gearing, riding position, and the longer chainstays. If you generally ride in the mid to high teens, tnis bike won't slow you down. These are great all-around bikes, and do everything well... a jack of all trades bike.
I purchased the bosco bars for my vintage mtb/gravel setup. I was delighted to find out that with some gentle persuasion I was able to mount Shimano trigger shifters right up close by the stem.
Thank you for that review. I have been thinking of a Sam but was curious about it’s handling with an upright (albatross bar). You’ve given me some information that is much appreciated. Of course I don’t have gravel roads and use my bikes on pavement and like a nice cush ride for my back and hands.
I've owned a Sam since '09 and one of the builds featured an Albatross that is now on my wife's '82 Trek 613. I loved how it handled and road. Did tons of trail riding with that setup, and I never felt outmatched. Also did some 2-3 day tours and never missed a beat. It's currently set up with a Salsa Cowchipper, and it's my favorite iteration so far. We'll see what's next!
An oasis of calm..... : ). Awesome Russ. And congrats on the sweet legendary Riv!!
Clicked "thumbs up" within 3 seconds!!!!!!! KEEP SAFE!
It makes total sense. Part of why I like my simple vintage bikes that I can upgrade or modernize little parts as I see fit. The big Benefit of bikes like the Riv is the tire clearance.
I think there is a sanity in buying a bike like that. The technology works, there is no need to over think the design and it is classically elegant.
If at all possible could you trial some cargo bikes and a Mixte in terms of their ability to handle bike packing and gravel riding. Cheers👍
Russ, if you want to review the mixte, I have all the sizes of the Cheviot. The new name will be Platypus.
I get it. I respect and appreciate Rivendell, and ordered a lime-olive Sam frame sight unseen. Largely due to this excellent video. Russ is quite the cycling philosopher. Cheers!
This video just appeared in my notifications, yet it's time stamped Aug 31. ???
Definitely a beautiful, classy looking bike. I bet it's one of the best for leaving the world behind for a getaway. And it appears to be made to be modular, which I think is very important.
I really like my Sam bike...had been wanting to run some wider tires so your choice of the 650B and 47s seems perfect for me. I will investigate that setup. Thanks for posting.
That is a beautiful bike!!!! Good on you for buying an actual bike! You can take that bike into your old man days!!!
Russ, thank you for this review. Well done, my friend.
One day I can't wait to own one. Especially a Clem.
Review a retro Scott Peak rigid mtb with the narrow bars! They're so fun! After a 60 day bikepacking tour and a few months of courier work on one I loved it to death. Now my preferred ride is a Cannondale Cujo with a 50t low gear, it's like riding a cloud.
There's nothing superficial about liking the way a bike looks, and that being part of the reason for buying it. It could be the best bike in the world.....but if you don't "like" it you're not going to ride it. I agree with everything in the review, bikes are getting too far from being the simple, yet efficient machines they've always been. I agree that the Sam is a fine looking bike too!
This is true.
We missed you by like 2 days, Russ! Darn it! We spent the former week at WBR. Maybe next time! Appreciate your small cabin coverage!
Wow , riding your bike to fly fishing. That is just beyond words. Awesome.
Yes indeed... my Sam is the best riding bike, and never ceases to put a smile on my face after riding.
Hey Russ, I’m enjoying these upright bike makeover videos. I actually pimped my Surly by myself after having seen a video you made for Clever Cycles years earlier. It is such a joy to ride a bike that feels so comfortable around town and on tour. Thanks! I 2 wear crocs riding my bike.
You're not crazy to buy a Rivendell, I appreciate the simplicity of a bicycle. Tech has its place in the cycling world obviously but it is not the be all, end all. Truly is sad that a large portion of the population thinks you need the latest and greatest things to enjoy riding a bicycle. Lots of those same people never learn how to work on those same high tech bikes. Heck I have friends who I ride with who can hardly do anything mechanical on their bikes that really are simplistic in general. I'd like to know how you liked the Ultra Dynamico tires? Congrats on your purchase Russ, it really is a beautiful bicycle. Handmade craftsmanship is not dead and for that I'm grateful.
Welcome to the Riv family. Enjoy the bike and ride it more than you stare at it!! (I love my 2006 A Homer Hilsen)
I have a Linus Roadster retro bike with an eight speed internal hub that isn’t light, fast or efficient. It’s so pretty, well-made, fun and simple that I just don’t care. In that regard, it’s similar to this bike and speaks more to the experience of biking than anything.
Yay! Nicely done. I've been waiting for a Riv review since I found your channel late last year. You pretty much nailed their philosophy imho. Long live lugs!
If fans of Rivendell bikes aren’t called “Riv Nuts” then I don’t know what this world is coming to.
There is something to said for thinking different, not the way told by advertisers. That is why I like your channel. And indeed, Deore works. I would say it's better than the original XT or even the original XTR stuff. A pleasure to be taken in admiring something that "does the job" in a reliable way and will last, but even if fails will not be expensive to replace. Nothing wrong with 9 speed, esp. when have a front mech.
I think it’s beautiful. Like a classic old 50’s British bike but with nice gears and brakes.
Love the saddle bag too.
Wholeheartedly agree with the traditional perspective. New bikes are fine for the young and fast but at a certain point traditional bikes serve wonderfully
Wow, purchasing is high praise. Beautiful bike
I really want to see it with drop bars. I ride a rim brake bike every day. This looks amazing. I’ve wanted a vintage looking 650b bike for a while. Cool bike, and definitely worth the buy.
Agree in your description, in this age simplicity is something to strive for!
Russ you just bought a great all a rounder.I ride a all steel bike with rim brakes and love the cumfortable ride.Enjoy
Ugghhh I'm so jelly! I at least want those Bosco bars on my cruiser bike but with a single-bolt faceplate quill stem, and being a new biker, I dread the complexity and expense of swapping it out!
Even on the low cost end Riv bikes have influence people like me. I ride an 86 Schwinn Prelude I bought years ago for 100 bucks. It's decent quality butted chromoly frame where the main triangle is Columbus tubing and everything else is tange. I've tried the racy thing with a pricy gruppo and carbon fork etc. But have came to the full realization the bike will always be a "Sport-Tourer". Riv bikes have since been an inspiration for this build and larger nobbier tires, simple friction shifters have kept my bike a timeless classic.
Thanks for creating all of the reviews. Rivendell bikes seem perfectly "Modern Retro" to me. My first steel bike was a second-hand Viscount Sebring that I lovingly stripped and rebuilt, as a teenager.
I just wanted to ask what the actual weight of your build is and perhaps a more complex question, what were the factors that made you choose the Sam over the A. Homer?
I now own a Homer! It's bliss!
Well put it makes me shed a tear for my stolen trek 920 that I bought on CL for 100 bananas and rivved it out with a tall stem, lambda pedals and a few other bits i can't remember. I just hope someone is putting it to good use now.
This bike should last you a lifetime. Now that’s a philosophy worth buying into 😃
when your hands are on the bars in motion that is the journey right there to savor
Love it! I ride a Clem H with bosco bars, only bike I need & so much fun!
Glad you bought it! You will find that you will enjoy swept back handlebars way more than drops.
Nice buy Russ! Always liked their stuff, because I am cheap I buy vintage stuff but if I had the scratch I would buy a riv. Got to test ride a Sam at Riv HQ many moons ago and recall coming back from the test ride with a big goofy grin on my face.
Love the review, and this approach to bikes. Stuff that works, is fun to ride (and can be set up faster than this one is), durable, not finnicky, and "will last plenty of product cycles." Even if you ride quite a bit faster than Russ, this is a great approach. Only place it doesn't translate to is racing (including race-y group rides and KOM attempts).
Stumbling over Rivendell a decade and a bit ago, and getting the book "Just ride" on the tail end of that is what got me interested in bikes again, after quite a long periode of trying to keep up with the Joneses in the MTB fraternity, riding horrible contraptions or not riding at all. Not that I have any of their bikes, but a fellow needs a grail to reach for or something along those lines. Someday it will be mine, if they make anything fitting my 6`8" clydesdale frame. Untill then, Surly it is. :-)
Got it! It is a very lovely bike. Good on you for taking the plunge. Enjoy!!!
Just to add a thumbs up for the Sackville bags. I've been using the big bag for years for shopping and day rides (my touring days are largely over, alas) and although it was expensive - very! - I have never regretted the purchase. Fantastic construction and design - after five or six years of daily use it doesn't look like new anymore, but it is still in perfect working condition. I would definitely buy more Rivendell products if ti wasn't for their ridiculous shipping policy (to the EU). Too bad.
Nice. Enjoy the #RivRide. Reminds me of my old upright Raleigh that took me everywhere, on and off road, never complained.
You are going to love it with drop bars. You may not like Nitto noodles on it because they have such long ramps/flats.
I'd love to see a review of the SimWorks Doppo. I feel like it's a pretty uncommon bike but it's really beautiful.
Very very nice bike! It remembers my dutch Gazelle bike, on which I did some travel in the past. Travel, Gravel, City bike. Retrò even better. I like it!
What a nice ride, Russ! I Wish you many happy miles on it. As you describe, the RBW bikes are beautiful, smooth riding and very capable machines. I considered the Sam H while looking for a bike but decided on the Atlantis (with Bosco bars). I like the Sackville lineup and am eager to hear your review of the Bagboy. I put a medium Wald basket on the front of my bike and use a Banana sack on the saddle. I load up a medium Shopsack with my weekly farmers market haul, stuff it in the basket and off I go homeward bound. Keep up the good work!
Hey Russ....don't know if you respond to comments from vids a year old, buuuut...I just ordered an A Homer Hilsen from Riv. 47.5. Concerned about what you mention about (lack of) reach with alt bars. I'm going Albastache, which do reach out for that more tucked position. Anyway, curious, if you care to disclose, how tall you are, inseam/ PBH...? Just to get an idea whether I'm in for it. I'm pretty confident it will work fine with drop bars. Thanks much for all your great work!
I knew this one would be a favorite of yours. Hope you enjoy the new ride - looking forward to some more action vids with the Riv. Hopefully not too many cave of bad ideas ahead for this one tho haha.
that bike is so so gorgeous!!! the chance of getting one is as good as getting a space shuttle on ebay. you look very cramped on the bike. nice review!!!
An art deco bicycle with an art deco paint job.
Love it.
Great Review. I have a Sam and a Quickbeam. Bikes that put a smile on your face!
Great review Russ. Love the bikes and the Rivbike philosophy.
Welcome to Club Riv! Not as cool as BOB but damn close!
Thanks for this review! I’ve been considering buying a Sam H. for awhile and was wondering how a Riv would stand up to your wonderful review style. Specifically, I was curious how the Sam compared to the “new tech” and new frame materials/geometries you commonly review. Thanks for all the details! It’s time for me to sell the ebike, commuter, and brompton! :)
Definitely not as stiff as most modern bikes, but I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. Also the chainstay is unfashionably long. However, I have a Crust for those rides where I want to feel sporty. The Riv is the nice chill arounder.
@@PathLessPedaledTV I'm a proud owner of a Sam since '09. Agreed it's nowhere near as stiff as a modern bike--my only other bike is a 2017 Troll, so not a great comp, but still. My current setup features a VO stem w/ removable faceplate, Salsa Cowchipper, Dura Ace levers (paired with Tektro cr720s--don't knock 'em til you try 'em) + cross levers, and Shikoro 47s that barely fit but are oh so supple, and old school Riv Silver bar ends. It's a perfect bike.