Hey, thanks Russ! It helps the bag keep its shape, I don't like that deflated look. Coroplast abounds this time of year following local elections, scan the roadsides for signs.
Hey Eric, love your videos. Now that you've spent a lot of time with both the Appaloosa and the Hillborne, I'm wondering if you gravitate toward one a little more than the other, purely based on vibes/handling/riding enjoyment. I have a Clem and am considering getting a second Riv sometime in the future--leaning toward a Hillborne.
Beautiful bicycle and a wonderful video. You struck me as the type of fellow who doesn’t let the worries of the world get to him. A calming watch. Enjoy riding your joe 😁
I have watched this video so many times since you posted it. Thank you for your hard work making it and for sharing it with us. Many happy trails on your perfect bicycle!
Dang I need to get a creek running through my shop! Great build! I really love those brass bits! I recently picked up a Tan Joe Appaloosa off the used market, and absolutely love it as well.
All right, congrats on your Appaloosa! Such a sweet ride :) Is it the kinda mustard color from a few years back? Thanks for watching and sharing the kind words.
I just found your channel tonight and I love it! It's peaceful watching you build and then ride the bikes when they are complete. Love the music and your beautiful community!
Hello fellow owner of a mermaid Appaloosa! :) Love what you've done with the brass details, such a nice touch. The whole bike is curated and built so beautifully!~
Thanks so much and WOW, very cool to live near Bechet's home. I would listen to music from that era when he lived there and walk around the neighborhood sharing the mood and inspiration.
Take a virtual walk on Google Eric. The house with a blue plaque is 27 Conway Street. Head a few feet south from there for Fitzroy Square and the homes of Virginia Woolf, George Bernard Shaw and the Bloomsbury Group’s Omega Workshops. All at around that time. The buildings are from either side of the Napoleonic war.
@@witofthestaircase1 Wow, extremely cool and thank you for the suggestion. I took a bit of a stroll around, also looked into Omega. I've long admired Vanessa Bell's Charleston home, used to have a book about it.
So enjoyable to watch! It makes me wish I’d documented my Atlantis unboxing/assembly last year. Love the brass accents you’ve added, too. Nice pop of personality on the bike.
Hey...I got one from that batch too! Same color. I still cannot get over just how incredible this bike is. Grant is right...it is impossible to not love this bike. Boy did they sell out quick! I was in front row Allman Brothers tix mode! Enjoy the ride. Great video!
Congratulations Eric, on another well done "mood piece" on the joys of a bicycle. Inspired choice of music in the background; that just might be the soundtrack to the Rivendell Experience, hah Check with Grant on that? Also have to thank you for introducing me to Rob at Bing through your last video. I'm hoping he will be able to make a custom frame for me before too long. Not going to do a video about it, but I'm sure I'll be hearing Sydney Bechet in my head the whole time! Cheers
Your voice is so soothing. Especially with the running water sound in the background. You should do meditation or relaxation narration. Or maybe audiobooks.
Hi Patrick, that is really nice of you to say! I'm so glad. Especially because I've always wanted to do some voiceover stuff. I'm not sure I have the endurance for audiobooks. Maybe I can do a sleepytime podcast where I read Shimano derailer instructions...
Oh, that's rad. And thanks! What color is yr bike? I just picked up an '85 MB-3 in a slate blue-gray. It has painted bullmoose handlebars that match the frame.
Verdadera preciosidad. La bicicleta es deliciosa y sobre todo el cuidadoso detalle con el que montas cada una de las partes. He disfrutado mucho este video. Gracias!!!
Thanks so much. I left the stainless steel bolts on the stem faceplate because I think brass is too soft to get adequate torque. I use the brass bolts in areas with low or no stress!
Eric, I'd love to see/hear a compare and contrast with your Sam Hillborne! I bought an A. Homer Hilsen ten years ago which is my main bike. It's been through a lot of changes, currently with wide, flared drops and a 1 x 11 very low, wide range drive train. But this year I was able to find a used Roadini and have built it up as a 2 x 10 with an old Deore rapid rise rear derailleur and and ancient Campy front, driven by Riv Silver II bar-cons. Both on a rotation of 38-44mm tires. I love the ride of both...
@@MelvinHughesatp Oh, very cool bikes, Melvin! I love both of my bikes and a lot of days I end up riding both. The Hillborne is definitely more spritely, much lighter. I did mount a vintage Nitto F15 and Baggins Boxy bag but it's still lighter overall than the Appaloosa. Today was a typical day for me, rode the Appaloosa for some errands (bank, jobsite, coffee, park, grocery store). In the evening I did a quick 13 miles around town on the Hillborne. I've also ridden the Hillborne on local trails and had quite a lot of fun, they're pretty mild. I do like having one drop bar bike and one with swept back bars. They're both very comfortable! How's the difference between the Roadini and the Homer? Seems they are more similar to one another than my two bikes are to each other. Thanks for watchin'!
@@ericmarth Thanks for the comparison! I've wondered about the longer wheelbased Rivendells. Back when I bought my Hilsen, it was very difficult choosing between it and the Hillborne. In the end, I can't really recall why I chose one over the other. Either would certainly have been great. You are right about the similarities in the Hilsen and the Roadini. But they are subtly different. My Hilsen is a 59 cm. I was on the border between a 57 and a 59 and Riv suggested the larger frame. So stand-over on it is minimal. Also, I run shorter stems as a result. The ride is probably very similar to your Hillborne. I find it extremely collected, calm, and somewhat silky. The Roadini Medium frame is somewhat lighter I suspect. I don't have a proper bike scale but my sense of it is that without all the lugwork the Hilsen has, it has to be a lighter frame. The chainstay lengths are identical. But I think the trail is a bit less on the Roadini. It feels a bit quicker in steering. I haven't ridden them enough side by side to make a great comparison. But on the Hilsen, I somehow feel as if I am up on the bike, not really floating but well suspended. On the Roadini, I feel as if I am somehow lower on the bike - Even though the setups for both are identical on seat height, seat-to-handlebar distance, and handlebar height. The Roadini does not feel as smooth as the Hilsen. But both are infinitely more comfortable to ride than the old 1995 Litespeed Natchez I finally sold. Both handle much better as well in corners, descents, and just in general. I need to put more miles on the Roadini to get a deeper sense of it. Here is an album of the Hilsen with a few shots of the Roadini at the end. Both are still a work in progress. www.flickr.com/photos/mlhughes/albums/72157626614960202/with/51575404909/
@@ericmarth Hey Eric, I was just revisiting your Appaloosa video. After several months of having my two Rivendell bikes, I can say more clearly now that your observation was very accurate. The geometry of the 54 CM Roadini is so close to the geometry of my now 11 year old, 59 CM Hilsen that there is very little difference in the handling of the two. But whether it is because the Hilsen is a tad heavier or just a little bit different in tubing and geometry, I really do prefer the Hilsen. I feel as if I have become a total retro-grouch though. I finally went back to a 3 x 9 on the Hilsen, using one of the Rapid Rise Shimano rear derailleurs on an 11-40 rear cassette. So I'm really thinking about trying to get an Appaloosa or Atlantis frame to build up. I'll have to sell the Roadini frame first...
@@ericmarth Thanks bud! For now, the influence is enough...lots of brooks, nitto, bags and baskets in my stable, much to the bemusement of some local riders!
No doubt that it's expensive to ship a Riv to the UK. Ask me how I know?! Me and my Homer, "Andie" are in Edinburgh. Good luck with your Rivendell dream!
Man, I love watching your videos. I love your attention to detail. The music at the beginning is excellent. That is what cycling is all about. Also, I love the bird sounds. Are those natural or do you add them in?
Another Home Run. ! Classy and brassy . McMaster/Carr... my long time go-to for anything hardware related. Good stuff, prices ok, shipping costs are a bit stiff.
McMaster is great and their offerings are vast. In my experience (maybe a few dozen orders) the shipping costs haven't been surprising but the overnight shipping has been!
@@ericmarth I suffer from being way across the country. Last order was some rare metric bits and pieces to restore my 1982 INCA Swiss Made 259 Table Saw.. 4 small pieces... cost about 15 bucks. They would fit in a zip lock snack bag.. but arrived in a 16" X 16" by 8" box at $17 shipping. They are still the best. You have me thinking "brass". : ) BTW I am about a 6 hr drive North of Rivendell.. I am down that way about 4-5 times a year so always stop by and never leave empty handed. Must have another Swedish Hatchet and Bandana.
great your video! I was wondering I love your idea of fixing the bar tape with string rather than tape but I don't quite understand how you fix it because I imagine that without glue it doesn't hold?
Hey, thanks! I've finished bars like this a few times and haven't had the twine come undone or untied even after a year of use. Rivendell has instructions, do a search for "Handlebar Wrap and Twine Finish" and look for the PDF link beneath the embedded video.
Thanks, Ron! The grips are a layer of felted wool applied directly to the bars then wrapped with one layer of Newbaum's cotton bar tape in maroon. Finished with two coats of clear shellac, then one coat of amber shellac. Thanks for watchin'!
Gorgeous bike. I’m just too big a fan of modern conveniences like hydraulic disc brakes, lightweight aluminum frames and factory mounting points to pull the trigger on one of these beauties.
A lot of Riv riders like to get their bars way up but it's not always necessary. The tall headtubes and slightly sloping top tube allow you to get the bars nice and high. Many bikes are designed in a way that makes this difficult. Riv believes in high bars so the frame design certainly encourages it. I like to run my swept back bars just below the saddle, these days.
Thank you! Yes, I've seen drops on Appaloosa and Atlantis frames and they look pretty sweet. I'd do that if I was perhaps considering a long tour. I have another bike with drops and like the variety of switching between swept-back and drop bars!
So gorgeous. What did you/they finish the grips with? I saw Blue Lug also put some kind of finish. I really like the look and how much sturdier it seems now (one reason I tend to stay away from cotton wrap). Thanks!
A lovely build and a cracking vlog to boot! I am awaiting the arrival of my Atlantis frame in late Summer and will be setting up my cockpit almost identical to yours with Billie bars and bar end shifters, so I wonder, can you tell me if there are ESI grips under the darker bar wrap in the "first" hand position? (This is the way I would like to go.) Otherwise, is there gel or other padded tape (Newbaums) that gives the grip its thickness? Much obliged if you have the time to get to this.
Hello and thank you! Congrats on the Atlantis. In my primary grip area there is a layer of felted wool that is attached directly to the bars with adhesive or double-sided tape. Over that is one layer of Newbaum's cotton bar tape (the standard kind, no padding). It has a few coats of shellac. This is something I've seen on Rivendell builds and asked for it when I had the bike built up. I'm not sure this link will work but search "Rivendell grips the hard way" for Grant's primer on using the wool underlayment: www.rivbike.com/blogs/grant-petersens-blog/grips-the-hard-way-how-to It seems to me that wrapping ESI grips in bar tape would work just fine but I've never tried it.
@@ericmarth Thanks so much Eric, that's really helpful. There are a few ways around the potential difficulties with ESI grips that I can think of but I shall definitely look into the idea of a felt liner- or similar. Thanks again!
I love the way brass wears and ages. I suspect it will hold up just fine and if it fails it's cable and housing ferrules that are easy to replace. Same for the washers over the shifters, they cost something like a few cents apiece.
@@ericmarth It does look nice. I was hoping you'd say that brass bolts and washers provide increased ride compliance and lateral stiffness resulting in the ability to crush the biggest jibs, and to boost the garliest drops.
@@ericmarth Well it was a town of Men, traders so it they had bikes they would be practical like this one and if they had coffee it probably wouldn't be foamy, lol! If you think about horses these would be rugged work horses, but Elves would have sleek race horses. Assuming carbon fiber would only be forged in the evil land of Mordor, Elves from Rivendell would probably favor titanium single speeds with no brakes. Cheers!
@@ericmarth ha ha, glad I could help, I do really like Rivendell's views on components though, the mainstream road bike world has gotten a little nuts, that's for sure!
The #12 size works with Silver 1 and Silver 2 shifters. Apparently they work with Simplex Retrofriction shifters as well! Haven't tried the Simplex but I've seen pictures and it's a good fit.
Hard to say, what's your PBH? I have a 54cm, my PBH is 87, I'm 5'10". Almost went with a 57cm but called Riv and Grant said go 54. He was right! Any doubts, call them! Heck, call them anyway.
Hi Eric, I've been spending more time than I want to admit publicly (this isn't public, right?) about handlebar tape color, after shellac. So help a brother out--what color did that green tape start out as and was it clear or amber shellacked?
Don't worry, your bar tape fretting is strictly confidential. The tape on the grips area is Newbaum's maroon with one coat of clear shellac followed by one coat of amber shellac. The tape on the hooks section (between the brake lever clamp to the stem) is Newbaum's light gray with one coat of clear shellac. I hope this is helpful!
Eric, thank you for another great video! I saw Will this past weekend at the Philly Bike Expo. It was so nice to speak with him. Awaiting Rodini restock after the new year. Hey, what Shimano components are on the bike? Cheers, Lou
Thanks, Lou! Your Roadini sounds exciting. I forgot to mention the mechs: They're both Deore. For the front I spec'd "mechanic's choice" in the build because finding FDs was really trick at the time. It might be a FD-M618-H. The rear is a Deore M591. There's also a Shimano 12-36 cassette.
Great video and bike ! What size did you choose? How tall are you and your inseam. Not sure how to size this style bike , never been a fan of the pubic bone method thanks Chuck
This dude’s like the friggin bob ross of internet bike builds keep these comin bruh
Also, look up Peter Draws channel.
I was looking for this comment, thought the same thing and posted a comment on a previous video sure someone had made the same connection
will one day be the most valuable Rivendell in the universe of pretty slow
Namaste
Very nice video and good looking bike with beautiful views.
Arigato!
Hey thanks for stopping by! Riding this autumn has been great. I love your shop :)
rolling out of the gate on creative fire speachless
Thanks a bunch!
stellar mind altering build that will last till the end of time as we know it on planet earth BRAVOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Namaste :o)
This video is so cool I had to put on a sweater just to watch it.
One hundred percent of the finest merino, I hope!
Less a bike video than a wonderful meditation session, love the kickstand wrap. Thank you!
Oh, thank you Donald! I'm glad you enjoyed it
I swear I watch this video and the Sam Hillborne video at least once a week. Can't wait to get my own Riv. Love this!
Wow, thanks so much for sharing Scott! I'm glad you enjoy the vids. I hope you can get a Riv!
Beautiful bike! I can see the quality craftsmanship and art it took to make the final product!
Thanks much!
Great vid. Got to try that additional corrolplast on my Sackville.
Hey, thanks Russ! It helps the bag keep its shape, I don't like that deflated look. Coroplast abounds this time of year following local elections, scan the roadsides for signs.
Such a work of art on two wheels.
This frameset/build is pure class.
Much appreciated
Those little brass touches finish the bike off beautifully. Love these new old bikes.
Hey, thanks so much!
This is the ideal bicycle for appreciating the simple joy of bicycle riding. People really should ride bikes more like this one.
It is certainly comfortable and quite a lot of fun. Definitely helps keep it light out there :o)
agreed, my 80's Stumpjumper and 90's XO2 are the closest I have gotten yet tho,..
You sir are a connoisseur! Absolutely lovely build, lovely attention to detail and a beautifully done film! 👌😊
Why thank you, sir! I appreciate it!
Hey Eric, love your videos. Now that you've spent a lot of time with both the Appaloosa and the Hillborne, I'm wondering if you gravitate toward one a little more than the other, purely based on vibes/handling/riding enjoyment. I have a Clem and am considering getting a second Riv sometime in the future--leaning toward a Hillborne.
Feel better about being a human just watching this guy! Thx
Dang, thanks Thomas :)
what an amazing build and I bet it rides like a dream...beautiful, elegant and practical...meets all my boxes of the perfect bike. Cheers.
Dang, thanks a bunch!
Pretty bike , classy vid.
Thanks a bunch, Adam
Beautiful bicycle and a wonderful video. You struck me as the type of fellow who doesn’t let the worries of the world get to him. A calming watch. Enjoy riding your joe 😁
Thanks for your kind comment! I'm glad you enjoyed watching.
I have watched this video so many times since you posted it. Thank you for your hard work making it and for sharing it with us. Many happy trails on your perfect bicycle!
Damn, Brendon! Thank you! Maybe one day we can rip together, looks like you have some great trails out your way :)
Would love to go for a ride with you and all the other wonderful Riv people in the USA! One day!
What a nice experience this morning, watching your relaxed and informative video! Love it. Props to your eye for detail and no nonsense voice over.
Oh, I'm glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for saying so.
Love the color! Mine (2023) is olive, which is nice, but I think I like the blue better.
I like that olive! I like my paint, too :0)
Dang I need to get a creek running through my shop!
Great build! I really love those brass bits! I recently picked up a Tan Joe Appaloosa off the used market, and absolutely love it as well.
All right, congrats on your Appaloosa! Such a sweet ride :) Is it the kinda mustard color from a few years back?
Thanks for watching and sharing the kind words.
My brother ...greetings from east Los Angeles. Thumbs up
Beautiful
Hey, thanks Jbird! Take is easy in LA
I just found your channel tonight and I love it! It's peaceful watching you build and then ride the bikes when they are complete. Love the music and your beautiful community!
Thanks so much!
Catalogue raisonné is built to astonish
Thanks so much
I just bought an appaloosa frameset, and this video has somehow made me even more excited than i already was. Thank you!
Hey, congrats on your frame! Enjoy the build and the ride. Thanks for stopping by :)
Hello fellow owner of a mermaid Appaloosa! :) Love what you've done with the brass details, such a nice touch. The whole bike is curated and built so beautifully!~
Hey, Mervyn! Congrats on your matching Appaloosa :) And thanks for the kind words about my bike, I appreciate it.
Beautiful seat post... enjoyed the video. Great shop.
Hey, thanks Greg! The post is an SR MTE-100 with a bunch of setback, if you're curious.
Thanks.. it is a work of art on the road..
More nice work Eric. You’re in a lovely part of the world. Coincidentally I live directly across a narrow street to Sydney Bechet’s London home.
Thanks so much and WOW, very cool to live near Bechet's home. I would listen to music from that era when he lived there and walk around the neighborhood sharing the mood and inspiration.
Take a virtual walk on Google Eric. The house with a blue plaque is 27 Conway Street. Head a few feet south from there for Fitzroy Square and the homes of Virginia Woolf, George Bernard Shaw and the Bloomsbury Group’s Omega Workshops. All at around that time. The buildings are from either side of the Napoleonic war.
@@witofthestaircase1 Wow, extremely cool and thank you for the suggestion. I took a bit of a stroll around, also looked into Omega. I've long admired Vanessa Bell's Charleston home, used to have a book about it.
Nice bike! McMaster-Carr 👍 lifesavers
Sometimes their shipments arrive 12 hours later!
Looking forward to more videos man, love em!
I'm workin' on it! Thanks, Patrik
Well done -- the bike build and the documentation! Love the brass bits that really personalize your machine.
Well thanks, Robert!
Stunning build🎉
Nice build! Nice bike! Nice video! Fan from Czech Republic.
Thank you so much for watching and letting me know. I just got some Wera stainless hex drivers that were made in the Czech Republic, I love them!
Perfect in every detail
Thanks so much!
So enjoyable to watch! It makes me wish I’d documented my Atlantis unboxing/assembly last year. Love the brass accents you’ve added, too. Nice pop of personality on the bike.
Oh, I'd love to see an Atlantis vid. Thank you, Ben!
A+ video. Thank you
Wow, thanks Jesse!
Great bike😊
Oh thank you!
Great video. Almost couldn’t watch with the music but got past that. Thanks for sharing.
LOL 🎭 No 30s clarinet jazz for Greg!
Hey...I got one from that batch too! Same color. I still cannot get over just how incredible this bike is. Grant is right...it is impossible to not love this bike. Boy did they sell out quick! I was in front row Allman Brothers tix mode! Enjoy the ride. Great video!
Congrats on your bike! They sure are great. Front Row Allmans Mode training surely played a hand in your success. Thanks for the nice note :)
Wow, what a place to ride. Sweet build. I can't wait to be a riv owner!
It's not bad! Thanks so much and best of luck in yr quest for a Riv :)
Congratulations Eric, on another well done "mood piece" on the joys of a bicycle.
Inspired choice of music in the background; that just might be the soundtrack to the Rivendell Experience, hah Check with Grant on that?
Also have to thank you for introducing me to Rob at Bing through your last video. I'm hoping he will be able to make a custom frame for me before too long. Not going to do a video about it, but I'm sure I'll be hearing Sydney Bechet in my head the whole time! Cheers
Thanks, Cameron! I'm glad you're in touch with Rob, that sounds like a great project. Enjoy that sweeping Bechet clarinet!
That's a gorgeous bike, really enjoyed this video
Thanks so much!
sweet vintage style bike..wow 😎
your seat post is something I have been looking for..
They're out there! I like a lot of setback. Mine is an SR MTE-100 with a 26.8 diameter. Thanks for watching, Paul 🌞
Beautiful ! The seat post is very cool. I will have to keep my eye out for one.
Hey, thanks! There are some on eBay from time to time.
What a beautiful bike. I like your personal touches with the brass bolts and washers. I wish you many happy miles.
Philip
Thanks, Philip! Who knew copper and zinc could be so good together.
Your voice is so soothing. Especially with the running water sound in the background. You should do meditation or relaxation narration. Or maybe audiobooks.
Hi Patrick, that is really nice of you to say! I'm so glad. Especially because I've always wanted to do some voiceover stuff. I'm not sure I have the endurance for audiobooks. Maybe I can do a sleepytime podcast where I read Shimano derailer instructions...
@@ericmarth 😆
Thanks again Eric!
Thank you my friends!
Excellent video ! Love your relaxed style 👍🏻
Thanks Yansen!
Nice build, chill video. B17 is a winner. Love mine
Thanks, vipe. It took me a while to get the feel for my Brooks saddles, I thought I had a rare set of incompatible sit bones. All good, now!
@@ericmarth yeah they do require a bit of patience. Again nice job on the video, just watched it again with the wife
I have a 1985 Bridgestone MB-3 that is very nice. 23 inch frame size! Your build is super cool.
Oh, that's rad. And thanks! What color is yr bike? I just picked up an '85 MB-3 in a slate blue-gray. It has painted bullmoose handlebars that match the frame.
@@ericmarth Dark matallic blue. Had a bmx stem 60mm. We now have normal quill stem and bar.
Nice rig, Eric! Have fun!
✨✌️Will do!
Congrats on the new bike! The lug work is stunning
Thanks! They don't mess around when it comes to lugs, I love how the different bikes have different shapes, details and windows.
Verdadera preciosidad. La bicicleta es deliciosa y sobre todo el cuidadoso detalle con el que montas cada una de las partes. He disfrutado mucho este video. Gracias!!!
Muchas gracias por su amabilidad, Jairo
Wow! My only disappointment was that the four headset bolts were not upgraded to brass. A work of art.
Thanks so much. I left the stainless steel bolts on the stem faceplate because I think brass is too soft to get adequate torque. I use the brass bolts in areas with low or no stress!
Great build! Will is so good to deal with!
Thank you Melvin! Yeah, Will is great :)
Eric, I'd love to see/hear a compare and contrast with your Sam Hillborne! I bought an A. Homer Hilsen ten years ago which is my main bike. It's been through a lot of changes, currently with wide, flared drops and a 1 x 11 very low, wide range drive train. But this year I was able to find a used Roadini and have built it up as a 2 x 10 with an old Deore rapid rise rear derailleur and and ancient Campy front, driven by Riv Silver II bar-cons. Both on a rotation of 38-44mm tires. I love the ride of both...
@@MelvinHughesatp Oh, very cool bikes, Melvin! I love both of my bikes and a lot of days I end up riding both. The Hillborne is definitely more spritely, much lighter. I did mount a vintage Nitto F15 and Baggins Boxy bag but it's still lighter overall than the Appaloosa.
Today was a typical day for me, rode the Appaloosa for some errands (bank, jobsite, coffee, park, grocery store). In the evening I did a quick 13 miles around town on the Hillborne. I've also ridden the Hillborne on local trails and had quite a lot of fun, they're pretty mild. I do like having one drop bar bike and one with swept back bars. They're both very comfortable!
How's the difference between the Roadini and the Homer? Seems they are more similar to one another than my two bikes are to each other. Thanks for watchin'!
@@ericmarth Thanks for the comparison! I've wondered about the longer wheelbased Rivendells. Back when I bought my Hilsen, it was very difficult choosing between it and the Hillborne. In the end, I can't really recall why I chose one over the other. Either would certainly have been great.
You are right about the similarities in the Hilsen and the Roadini. But they are subtly different. My Hilsen is a 59 cm. I was on the border between a 57 and a 59 and Riv suggested the larger frame. So stand-over on it is minimal. Also, I run shorter stems as a result. The ride is probably very similar to your Hillborne. I find it extremely collected, calm, and somewhat silky. The Roadini Medium frame is somewhat lighter I suspect. I don't have a proper bike scale but my sense of it is that without all the lugwork the Hilsen has, it has to be a lighter frame. The chainstay lengths are identical. But I think the trail is a bit less on the Roadini. It feels a bit quicker in steering.
I haven't ridden them enough side by side to make a great comparison. But on the Hilsen, I somehow feel as if I am up on the bike, not really floating but well suspended. On the Roadini, I feel as if I am somehow lower on the bike - Even though the setups for both are identical on seat height, seat-to-handlebar distance, and handlebar height. The Roadini does not feel as smooth as the Hilsen. But both are infinitely more comfortable to ride than the old 1995 Litespeed Natchez I finally sold. Both handle much better as well in corners, descents, and just in general. I need to put more miles on the Roadini to get a deeper sense of it.
Here is an album of the Hilsen with a few shots of the Roadini at the end. Both are still a work in progress. www.flickr.com/photos/mlhughes/albums/72157626614960202/with/51575404909/
@@ericmarth Hey Eric, I was just revisiting your Appaloosa video. After several months of having my two Rivendell bikes, I can say more clearly now that your observation was very accurate. The geometry of the 54 CM Roadini is so close to the geometry of my now 11 year old, 59 CM Hilsen that there is very little difference in the handling of the two. But whether it is because the Hilsen is a tad heavier or just a little bit different in tubing and geometry, I really do prefer the Hilsen. I feel as if I have become a total retro-grouch though. I finally went back to a 3 x 9 on the Hilsen, using one of the Rapid Rise Shimano rear derailleurs on an 11-40 rear cassette. So I'm really thinking about trying to get an Appaloosa or Atlantis frame to build up. I'll have to sell the Roadini frame first...
Very nice bike! ✨
Thanks for saying so! I do dig it myself :)
This gentleman Is very asmr on his videos 😁
Namaste
Another corking vid…such a treat for a UK rider with dreams of owning a riv. What a beauty!
I do hope one day you can get one shipped out your way!
@@ericmarth Thanks bud! For now, the influence is enough...lots of brooks, nitto, bags and baskets in my stable, much to the bemusement of some local riders!
No doubt that it's expensive to ship a Riv to the UK. Ask me how I know?! Me and my Homer, "Andie" are in Edinburgh. Good luck with your Rivendell dream!
@@Ey_up ...the time has come for me to get one! Out of interest would you tell me what the postage ended up costing? AHH such a lovely bike! :)
@@markslawinski6948 Shipping and duty...are you ready?!
Absolutely gorgeous thank you sharing
Thank you Terry! I appreciate it :)
Just order today my Joe Appaloosa inspired by this video. I wish I had your skills at assembly! 🥴
Sweet! Enjoy that new bike, nice to hear it encouraged you to try one of your own. It just takes some time, you'll get there!
Man, I love watching your videos. I love your attention to detail. The music at the beginning is excellent. That is what cycling is all about. Also, I love the bird sounds. Are those natural or do you add them in?
Absolutely beautiful
Thanks a bunch!
Jeesum this man knows how to live. 🚲
Ha! Just trying to enjoy da ride :)
Amazing bicycle 😍😍😍👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Grazie, Antonio!
Yup, "cherry Rivendell" envy.. never really goes away.
Very Nice!!
I appreciate it, Raymond
well done !
super nice...
Your voice is so relaxing, I want to come live in your tool shed. Watching this video feels like good yoga ;)
Thanks a bunch Karen!
Love these. Remind me of Harley Davidson in some weird way lol.
Never thought I'd hear that one! Thanks :)
Bet this is faster and handles better than a Harley.
Another Home Run. ! Classy and brassy .
McMaster/Carr... my long time go-to for anything hardware related.
Good stuff, prices ok, shipping costs are a bit stiff.
McMaster is great and their offerings are vast. In my experience (maybe a few dozen orders) the shipping costs haven't been surprising but the overnight shipping has been!
@@ericmarth I suffer from being way across the country.
Last order was some rare metric bits and pieces to restore my 1982 INCA Swiss Made 259 Table Saw..
4 small pieces... cost about 15 bucks. They would fit in a zip lock snack bag.. but arrived in a 16" X 16" by 8" box at $17 shipping.
They are still the best. You have me thinking "brass". : )
BTW I am about a 6 hr drive North of Rivendell.. I am down that way about 4-5 times a year so always stop by and never leave empty handed. Must have another Swedish Hatchet and Bandana.
I like the homemade maintenance stand.
Thanks, Kenneth. It works just well enough.
great your video! I was wondering I love your idea of fixing the bar tape with string rather than tape but I don't quite understand how you fix it because I imagine that without glue it doesn't hold?
Hey, thanks! I've finished bars like this a few times and haven't had the twine come undone or untied even after a year of use.
Rivendell has instructions, do a search for "Handlebar Wrap and Twine Finish" and look for the PDF link beneath the embedded video.
@@ericmarth thanks for your answer and congratulation for your job
@@elliotaxx6277 Of course! Thanks again and be well.
Vermont or NH I reckon. Best place to Riv the dream.
It's Virginia :)
a beauty. needs so silver (or brass?) fenders!
Yeah, could use a fendered bike this winter!
My god, that's beautiful! What kind of grips/bar tape is that? Such attention to textures/details. Wow!
Thanks, Ron! The grips are a layer of felted wool applied directly to the bars then wrapped with one layer of Newbaum's cotton bar tape in maroon. Finished with two coats of clear shellac, then one coat of amber shellac. Thanks for watchin'!
Gorgeous bike. I’m just too big a fan of modern conveniences like hydraulic disc brakes, lightweight aluminum frames and factory mounting points to pull the trigger on one of these beauties.
I hear ya! Cheers
Ouais the fork as caps ? Is it holding bushing ?
Why the very tall stems on Rivendell bikes, does their geometry require it ?
A lot of Riv riders like to get their bars way up but it's not always necessary. The tall headtubes and slightly sloping top tube allow you to get the bars nice and high. Many bikes are designed in a way that makes this difficult. Riv believes in high bars so the frame design certainly encourages it. I like to run my swept back bars just below the saddle, these days.
beautiful
Thank you! Cheers!
Whats the tape on the bar, on the inside, past the grips??
It's dark gray Newbaum's cotton bar tape :o)
Great build! I'm very interested in your homemade service stand. Can you share some insight on how you made It?
Hey, thanks a lot! I'm planning a repair stand build video. Keep an eye out for it 👀
More!!
I'm tryin I'm tryin!
Beautiful bike, I love the personal finishing touches. What is your primary use for her, long randouneering rides, commuting, or hopping around town?
Could a drop bar be used on this bike? (Beautiful video, by the way! Very classy.) Thanks.
Thank you! Yes, I've seen drops on Appaloosa and Atlantis frames and they look pretty sweet. I'd do that if I was perhaps considering a long tour. I have another bike with drops and like the variety of switching between swept-back and drop bars!
So gorgeous. What did you/they finish the grips with? I saw Blue Lug also put some kind of finish. I really like the look and how much sturdier it seems now (one reason I tend to stay away from cotton wrap). Thanks!
I appreciate the small aesthetic modifications. Do you sell these bikes or do custom builds for people? Is this a business?
A lovely build and a cracking vlog to boot!
I am awaiting the arrival of my Atlantis frame in late Summer and will be setting up my cockpit almost identical to yours with Billie bars and bar end shifters, so I wonder, can you tell me if there are ESI grips under the darker bar wrap in the "first" hand position? (This is the way I would like to go.) Otherwise, is there gel or other padded tape (Newbaums) that gives the grip its thickness? Much obliged if you have the time to get to this.
Hello and thank you! Congrats on the Atlantis. In my primary grip area there is a layer of felted wool that is attached directly to the bars with adhesive or double-sided tape. Over that is one layer of Newbaum's cotton bar tape (the standard kind, no padding). It has a few coats of shellac. This is something I've seen on Rivendell builds and asked for it when I had the bike built up.
I'm not sure this link will work but search "Rivendell grips the hard way" for Grant's primer on using the wool underlayment: www.rivbike.com/blogs/grant-petersens-blog/grips-the-hard-way-how-to
It seems to me that wrapping ESI grips in bar tape would work just fine but I've never tried it.
@@ericmarth Thanks so much Eric, that's really helpful. There are a few ways around the potential difficulties with ESI grips that I can think of but I shall definitely look into the idea of a felt liner- or similar. Thanks again!
Why brass? How does brass hold up to corrosion over the decades?
I love the way brass wears and ages. I suspect it will hold up just fine and if it fails it's cable and housing ferrules that are easy to replace. Same for the washers over the shifters, they cost something like a few cents apiece.
@@ericmarth It does look nice. I was hoping you'd say that brass bolts and washers provide increased ride compliance and lateral stiffness resulting in the ability to crush the biggest jibs, and to boost the garliest drops.
@@devinbartley5768 Oh, uh, yeah... YEAH! I DID mean to say that!
I can't really picture Elves riding a bike like this, seems something more likely to be found in Esgaroth
I'm not up on my Tolkien but I'd assume Esgaroth is a nice place with rolling hills spotted with cafes every 25 miles serving up perfect macchiatos.
@@ericmarth Well it was a town of Men, traders so it they had bikes they would be practical like this one and if they had coffee it probably wouldn't be foamy, lol! If you think about horses these would be rugged work horses, but Elves would have sleek race horses. Assuming carbon fiber would only be forged in the evil land of Mordor, Elves from Rivendell would probably favor titanium single speeds with no brakes. Cheers!
@@davetbassbos Well, I think that settles it, then!
@@ericmarth ha ha, glad I could help, I do really like Rivendell's views on components though, the mainstream road bike world has gotten a little nuts, that's for sure!
could I ask what sandles those are? lol they look comfy
Yeah, sure! They're Bedrock sandals, Cairn model without a molded footbed.
@@ericmarth thanks man
What size finishing washers did you use?
The #12 size works with Silver 1 and Silver 2 shifters. Apparently they work with Simplex Retrofriction shifters as well! Haven't tried the Simplex but I've seen pictures and it's a good fit.
There's a link in the video description to the finishing washers, by the way.
@@ericmarth Just seen that! thanks so much. Look forward to some more videos!
@@angusross7922 Cheers!
I'm awaiting the next run of frames....Seems like forever....Great build. I'm 5'7" and looking at a 54...that seem like the right size?
Hard to say, what's your PBH? I have a 54cm, my PBH is 87, I'm 5'10". Almost went with a 57cm but called Riv and Grant said go 54. He was right! Any doubts, call them! Heck, call them anyway.
Hi Eric, I've been spending more time than I want to admit publicly (this isn't public, right?) about handlebar tape color, after shellac. So help a brother out--what color did that green tape start out as and was it clear or amber shellacked?
I take it back--you of course answered this later on...
Don't worry, your bar tape fretting is strictly confidential.
The tape on the grips area is Newbaum's maroon with one coat of clear shellac followed by one coat of amber shellac.
The tape on the hooks section (between the brake lever clamp to the stem) is Newbaum's light gray with one coat of clear shellac.
I hope this is helpful!
@@ericmarth Soooper helpful! Thanks again for your videos; they're informative and the vibe is pretty much ASMR for bike appreciators. LOL
Eric, thank you for another great video! I saw Will this past weekend at the Philly Bike Expo. It was so nice to speak with him. Awaiting Rodini restock after the new year. Hey, what Shimano components are on the bike? Cheers, Lou
Thanks, Lou! Your Roadini sounds exciting. I forgot to mention the mechs: They're both Deore. For the front I spec'd "mechanic's choice" in the build because finding FDs was really trick at the time. It might be a FD-M618-H. The rear is a Deore M591. There's also a Shimano 12-36 cassette.
NICE, very nice, "work" zone in the backyard garage...
Seconded, Eph.vdZee, reg'd "watching the video".
Great video and bike ! What size did you choose? How tall are you and your inseam. Not sure how to size this style bike , never been a fan of the pubic bone method thanks Chuck
Thanks! It's a 54cm frame. I did go by PBH and I called Rivendell before I ordered. I think the frame fits really well!