My thoughts exactly, a friend told me moving from a leopard 1 to abrams in the Australian defense force was an ordeal, and that he wishes he could engine swap a Toyota like a leopard.
Germany learned a lot of lessons from WW2 Make the tank overpowered, so you always have good mobility without always torturing the engine (Kingtiger 700 PS for 69 tons - Leopard 2A4 1500 PS for 55 tons) Reduce the ground pressure, so you don´t get stuck in muddy or sandy terrain so easily (Kingtiger 1kg/cm2 - Leopard 2A4 0,83kg/cm2) Easy to drive - lot of the drivetrain failures in the late war on Tigers and Panthers was simply due to the fact, that the drivers were not well trained and ruined than the machine in the battle
Great video! Leopard 2 Keiler? What a rare sight. I am from Czech republic and our army is now doing trials on Leopards 2A4, as we will have Leopard 2A7s. And one of the things our tankers praising on the Leopard is the gun and the aim and precision of it. They praise it because when compared to our T72s, they hit what they are shooting at at much higher speeds.
@@KBKriechbaum KPz Leopard Experimentalentwicklung Keiler, also known as Leopard 2K or Leopard 2 Keiler was basically a testbed built for the german army.
If there is a basic paint cover and no water inside, it's fine. I assume Stefan took all the fragile parts. Then he moved it into the cosy, warm museum storage.
There is one key difference between this prototype and the production Leopard 2 vehicles. With regard to the turret and the weapon system, a slightly more developed version of the Leopard 1 A4 was planned originally, as shown here. Due to the experiences of the war in October 1973, the concept of the Leopard 2 was significantly revised with increased attention to protection against anti-tank guided missiles. The hull and the turret were to be protected against the effects of shaped charges by extensive use of spaced armor, hence the vertical armor surfaces instead of sloping armour. In addition, the turret was completely redesigned with the concept of a narrow turret with a narrow mantlet in order to significantly reduce the targeting area in hull down position. This was made possible by eliminating the optical range finder and using a laser range finder instead.
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Its a good thing I knew about this Tank when I visited because back then it was parked to the side of the Hall. Interesting that you have one of the two or so turrets that have the opening for the 20 mm.
@@markkir193 natürlich. Arsenalen ist ein super Museum. Schwedische Panzer sind echt interessant. Habe ich ja auch schon ein paar Videos drüber gemacht 🙂
@ Ja absolut interessant! Vor allem, dass die einen Leo 2 Prototyp haben, war mir völlig unbekannt. Ohhh okay - da muss ich nochmal deinen Kanal durchforsten!😃👍
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@@markkir193 ich hatte den auf ein paar fotos auf Googel Maps gesehen. Also bei dem Eintrag für das Museum. Und dann habe ich den Museumsleiter noch angesprochen und gefragt wo der steht. Ich hoffe mal dahin zurück kommen zu können und noch ein paar Videos machen zu dürfen
14:20 At night, in German armored units (that were equipped with the Leopard 1s, but weren't equipped with PzB200), it was common for the commander to mount an improvised pivoting bracket for an image intensifier unit (BIV, which should actually be installed on the loaders side instead of a mirror block) on his ring mount for the anti-aircraft machine gun in order to use it for passive observation.
The large circle on the rear right of the turret was the base for a 20mm cannon mount, simular to the MBT 70s. Not carried over past this turret version. The small device between that circle and the commanders hatch is an aim-able grenade launcher that could fire HE and Smoke. Very much like the ones mounted on later WW2 german tanks though those were internal and looked more flush from the outside. I believe the Leo 1 prototypes had a simular requirement though they used a flush mounted model and it too disappeared from production vehicles.
It’s been a long time since German tanks went up against Russian tanks I hope this time that the German tanks are on the winning side. Great video as always thank you very much .
Fun fact, in the Leopard 2A4 you could make manual input for quervind even though the wind sensor wasn’t installed. Also there’s a certain way to turn on switches that made the gunners sight mirror follow the gun tube into the ladestellung so that the gunner has to manually depress to get eyes back on target.
But does it have a BV - Boiling Vessel? Its impossible to fight without having the ability to make tea. They are an essential feature of British tanks. The British army can't fight without a supply of tea cloase at hand.
The Leopard 2 is now old, I'm told .. Yet it's the most sold Western Tank across the World 🌍 Thus : a Leopard 2 purchase decision can't really be classed as bold !!! 👉 The Viking Leif saw it as safe 👈
There is no "Leopard 2" as such. Of course, the early versions from the 80s are outdated. But most of the interior was upgraded also for the older machines. Leo 2A0 was upgraded to Leo 2A2 etc etc.
The Leopard 2A7 still competes with the best out there, it may look like an old tank, but every little thing has gone through several major updates, and the platform still has room for further improvements. The Norwegians chose the Leo 2A7 over the most modern tank on the market. They didn't give specifics, but they said both the Leopard 2A7 and the Hanwha K2 have met the requirements, and then some.
You are wrong Leopard 2 have been sold 2971 and majority of those where used tanks from German storage , meanwhile Abrams was sold 3780 and majority of those where newly produced ... and Leopards 2 are NOT best tanks in the world right now best tank in the world is Abrams M1A2 SEPv3 .
@@scratchy996 Buddy Leopard 2A7 is not best , A7 is pretty old version , Polish Leopard 2 modernization "PL" &"PLM1" is comparable with A7 , comparable because most parts will work with A7 , but in many areas Polish modification is superior to A7 , that was one of the reasons why Poland have chosen Abrams M1A2 SEPv3 , because Germany have fell behind when it comes to armour ... and Norwegian chosing Leopard 2 A7 was political decision , Military wanted K2 , but Government wanted get closer economic ties with Germany.
Not really, you just park it on top of two or more illegally parked Teslas ;) And the Centurion is about the same size, just a bit smaller turret and gun.
Yup, much more efficient to swap to a fresh power pack than to tow the whole tank to a repair shop. And if the power pack was taken out by enemy anti tank weapons, it just takes a bit longer to replace any damaged piping/tubing in the engine bay, stick welding the hole closed and put a fresh power pack in. (The risk of a second hit to the weld steel patched hole is insignificant)
Tack ska du ha för ett fint genomgång om leopard stridsvagn! Now in English, thank you for a very detailed and informative walk through of the Leopard tank. You explained very well (1) the life of crew inside the leopard tank, (2) the accuracy and capability of the leopard tank, both of which no one else has depicted so visually as you have done. I have a few questions if you will allow, (1) Is there air conditioning inside the tank against çold and heat? (2) Does it only fire these two rounds you mentioned or are there more. Can it fire missiles, rockets etc. (3) what is the maximum distance accuracy of this 120 mm gun? (4) what kind of life expectancy and maintenance does this smooth bore gun require? Thank you.
1. yes there is "air conditioning" in the older A4´s and A5´s, but thats basicly ventilation and NBC filtering. In the A6M and newer versions you got a low grade AC but not something comparable to a modern civil car. 2. APFSDS and HEAT-FS-MP are the core ammunition of modern NATO MBT´s, but there are some more specialised rounds availible like Canister (basicly shotgun round for tanks), tube launched ATGM (well, not really that worth using) and recently (around 2017) was the introduction of programmable HEAT-FS wich can airburst, explode on impact, explode after breach, explode without distance probe trigger (turning it into a HESH/HE-Frag) and a few more. 3. Depending on the type of Rheinmetall 120mm smoothbore and ammunition used. the RH120 L/44 (the shorter one) has an effective range of around 3200m with APFSDS, the L/55 (from A6 onwards) has an effective range of about 5000m with APFSDS 4. Depending on the gun and ammunition used. The RH120 L/44 with DM33 APFSDS has a life expectancy of around 600 shots before a barrel replacement is needed, with the more powerful DM53 the life expectancy of the L/44 sinks to around 300 shots. The L/55 mounted on A6 and later models has a life expectancy of again around 600 shots with DM53.
Ja, FMV testade både M1 och Leclerc samtidigt som Leopard2, jag vet inte om Challenger1 testades med, har för mig att det även var någon vagn som levererades lite sent.
Jag vet inte om man testade Challenger, men man testade även Abrams (den dyker t o m upp på en av bilderna i videon, jämte en Leopard 2) och jämförde dessutom med T-80.
Under första försöken 89-90 testades Leopard 2 A4 och M1A1, nästa omgång 2 år senare som syftade till att välja nästa vagn då var det Leo 2 Improved, M1A2 och Leclerc. Challenger drog sig ur innan försöken startade.
@@vfr492 T-72an tillhörde nog markstridsskolan, FM köppte in ett par östtyska T-stridsvagnar efter återförreningen, de som inte gick åt under testerna användes ofta som del av B-styrkan under slutövningar och liknande.
I guess it's difficult to build blowout panels in that exact spot, without compromising the structural strength of the hull. But the Germans have solved that problem by developing insensitive ammunition, the 120mm DM63, DM73 and newer models. You can shoot straight at it with an RPG and it doesn't ignite. The reason they didn't go for full turret storage was due to the hydraulic fluid being a danger to the crew, if the lines burst. The Israelis experienced that issue in the Merkava, and they switched to full electric turret drive. But that needs space in the rear of the turret. Unfortunately I don't think the Ukrainians will get that ammo, since its classified. The Turks also didn't get the ammo, that's why their tanks exploded. They also stood around on the top of the hill, fully exposed, without cover, with full hull ammo. If you do that, you at least stay in a hull down position.
@@Pyhantaakka You're welcome. One more thing, after the Turks lost those tanks, they added ERA blocks on the Leopard 2A4, for more protection. The Ukrainians could do that too, they have plenty of ERA around : ruclips.net/video/4HdYv2yq_BM/видео.html&ab_channel=shotasabauri
The S-tank may not be a "modern" tank, but it is undeniably a _cool_ tank!
I'm very impressed the little fan of the crosswind sensor on the turret is still turning on its own in the wind.
Nice catch bro
Stefan is one of my favourite presenters of tank related material.
The 10 minute engine change is standard in the Norwegian army as well.
thats basicly standard with every leopard 2, even with leopard 1.
My thoughts exactly, a friend told me moving from a leopard 1 to abrams in the Australian defense force was an ordeal, and that he wishes he could engine swap a Toyota like a leopard.
Can we just admire a little fan on top of a turret that belongs to a weather station that still spins after all those years ?
Germany learned a lot of lessons from WW2
Make the tank overpowered, so you always have good mobility without always torturing the engine (Kingtiger 700 PS for 69 tons - Leopard 2A4 1500 PS for 55 tons)
Reduce the ground pressure, so you don´t get stuck in muddy or sandy terrain so easily (Kingtiger 1kg/cm2 - Leopard 2A4 0,83kg/cm2)
Easy to drive - lot of the drivetrain failures in the late war on Tigers and Panthers was simply due to the fact, that the drivers were not well trained and ruined than the machine in the battle
Right at the end the Keyring really hit the spot for me.
Great video! Leopard 2 Keiler? What a rare sight. I am from Czech republic and our army is now doing trials on Leopards 2A4, as we will have Leopard 2A7s. And one of the things our tankers praising on the Leopard is the gun and the aim and precision of it. They praise it because when compared to our T72s, they hit what they are shooting at at much higher speeds.
Not a Keiler, a Leopard :)
@@KBKriechbaum KPz Leopard Experimentalentwicklung Keiler, also known as Leopard 2K or Leopard 2 Keiler was basically a testbed built for the german army.
the extra armor on the 122b makes it look so mean, great video!
Always makes me sad when a Prototype vehicle isn't indoors, especially since this is a piece of history.
very true
If there is a basic paint cover and no water inside, it's fine. I assume Stefan took all the fragile parts. Then he moved it into the cosy, warm museum storage.
@@HanSolo__ "Stefan"? I am pretty sure that this was some Helmut job!🙃
on the other hand, the Prototype is still a tank.
In these days anything can be restored
Thank you Stefan, I loved seeing the Leopard 2 Bach in the 80s, so much better than the Chieftain.
Fantastic! Thank you for this presentation and for your service..
There is one key difference between this prototype and the production Leopard 2 vehicles.
With regard to the turret and the weapon system, a slightly more developed version of the Leopard 1 A4 was planned originally, as shown here.
Due to the experiences of the war in October 1973, the concept of the Leopard 2 was significantly revised with increased attention to protection against anti-tank guided missiles.
The hull and the turret were to be protected against the effects of shaped charges by extensive use of spaced armor, hence the vertical armor surfaces instead of sloping armour.
In addition, the turret was completely redesigned with the concept of a narrow turret with a narrow mantlet in order to significantly reduce the targeting area in hull down position. This was made possible by eliminating the optical range finder and using a laser range finder instead.
Its a good thing I knew about this Tank when I visited because back then it was parked to the side of the Hall.
Interesting that you have one of the two or so turrets that have the opening for the 20 mm.
Hah! Du auch hier! Grüße 😃🙋🏻♂️
@@markkir193 natürlich. Arsenalen ist ein super Museum. Schwedische Panzer sind echt interessant. Habe ich ja auch schon ein paar Videos drüber gemacht 🙂
@ Ja absolut interessant! Vor allem, dass die einen Leo 2 Prototyp haben, war mir völlig unbekannt. Ohhh okay - da muss ich nochmal deinen Kanal durchforsten!😃👍
@@markkir193 ich hatte den auf ein paar fotos auf Googel Maps gesehen. Also bei dem Eintrag für das Museum. Und dann habe ich den Museumsleiter noch angesprochen und gefragt wo der steht. Ich hoffe mal dahin zurück kommen zu können und noch ein paar Videos machen zu dürfen
Always love these videos! I hope to one day visit this museum
Sweden, February, No Snow. I was at Arsenalen last year in April, Snow everywhere
Yeah. We call it April-weather here in Sweden. Anything can happen in April :P
14:20 At night, in German armored units (that were equipped with the Leopard 1s, but weren't equipped with PzB200), it was common for the commander to mount an improvised pivoting bracket for an image intensifier unit (BIV, which should actually be installed on the loaders side instead of a mirror block) on his ring mount for the anti-aircraft machine gun in order to use it for passive observation.
thanks for the review of this tank, stefan!!
Tak tak Stefan!
There is one 2A4 in Finland in a museum. It is very intimidating vehicle indeed.
Great insights and thank you for sharing!
Bovington: "Huh, guess we have to make a revisit of the Tank chat about Leopard 2 eh?"
Arsenalen: "Hold my coffee"
Thank you Stefan!
Incredibly impressive presentation .. thank u Stefan.
Är det er Leopard 2K?!?!?!?!?! Häftigt!
Another 'daily tank fix' right after work for me. nice :)
Excellent 👍
Best job I ever had.
18:35 Even some experienced helicopter pilots became sea sick while riding in the gunner's position ... :-)
. I dealt with k1a1 and k2 in Korea, and it's cool to see a generation ahead of me. I want to see it in person someday.
Fun fact in Poland there are tank crews that started on T72 then use it PT91 , then Leopard 2 , and now train for Abrams or K2 .
@@huzarion3814 I started k1a1 and dealt with k2, but there are people around me who switched to T-80U.
Very nice tour of the tank. Thank you.
The large circle on the rear right of the turret was the base for a 20mm cannon mount, simular to the MBT 70s. Not carried over past this turret version. The small device between that circle and the commanders hatch is an aim-able grenade launcher that could fire HE and Smoke. Very much like the ones mounted on later WW2 german tanks though those were internal and looked more flush from the outside. I believe the Leo 1 prototypes had a simular requirement though they used a flush mounted model and it too disappeared from production vehicles.
Rembember the epic feeling when I for the first time got to transport a Leopard 2 on a lorry.
always love your work, thank you.
Thank you for your personal experiences.
Great emotional Video - THX from germany
0:35 no matter what I do, I’ll never be as cool as tank commander Stephen in the late eighties having a brew
Very informative video. Tack så mycket.
It’s been a long time since German tanks went up against Russian tanks I hope this time that the German tanks are on the winning side.
Great video as always thank you very much .
as the german tanks are acompanied by other western tanks, I hope so, too
@@evgeniiorlinskii4525 lol, cope.
no other tank moves across uneven terrain faster and smoother than a Leopard 2. You hit a target at full throttle in 3500m distance.
That's a very early Leopard, cool video!
Fin kärra, går det att få den i svartmetallisk?😊👍🏻👍🏻
Leopard 2 levereras som standard i en vacker trefärgad finish: bronsgrön, läderbrun och tjärsvart.
@@herosstratos Tänk va snyggt det hade varit med mattsvart.
Outstanding presentation 👍
Great video. Thank you :)
Very interesting video, thank you!
Fun fact, in the Leopard 2A4 you could make manual input for quervind even though the wind sensor wasn’t installed.
Also there’s a certain way to turn on switches that made the gunners sight mirror follow the gun tube into the ladestellung so that the gunner has to manually depress to get eyes back on target.
But does it have a BV - Boiling Vessel? Its impossible to fight without having the ability to make tea. They are an essential feature of British tanks. The British army can't fight without a supply of tea cloase at hand.
Sweden put a BV in it, you can not live without it ;-)
@@stefankarlsson9762 Jolly good - victory guaranteed then
Germans are all about effectiveness, coffee (of course) will be heated on the gun barrel right after killing a T72
You must have been in Munster on the shooting and training range back then.
The Leopard 2 is now old, I'm told ..
Yet it's the most sold Western Tank across the World 🌍
Thus : a Leopard 2 purchase decision can't really be classed as bold !!!
👉 The Viking Leif saw it as safe 👈
There is no "Leopard 2" as such. Of course, the early versions from the 80s are outdated. But most of the interior was upgraded also for the older machines. Leo 2A0 was upgraded to Leo 2A2 etc etc.
The Leopard 2A7 still competes with the best out there, it may look like an old tank, but every little thing has gone through several major updates, and the platform still has room for further improvements.
The Norwegians chose the Leo 2A7 over the most modern tank on the market. They didn't give specifics, but they said both the Leopard 2A7 and the Hanwha K2 have met the requirements, and then some.
You are wrong Leopard 2 have been sold 2971 and majority of those where used tanks from German storage , meanwhile Abrams was sold 3780 and majority of those where newly produced ... and Leopards 2 are NOT best tanks in the world right now best tank in the world is Abrams M1A2 SEPv3 .
@@scratchy996 Buddy Leopard 2A7 is not best , A7 is pretty old version , Polish Leopard 2 modernization "PL" &"PLM1" is comparable with A7 , comparable because most parts will work with A7 , but in many areas Polish modification is superior to A7 , that was one of the reasons why Poland have chosen Abrams M1A2 SEPv3 , because Germany have fell behind when it comes to armour ... and Norwegian chosing Leopard 2 A7 was political decision , Military wanted K2 , but Government wanted get closer economic ties with Germany.
@@huzarion3814 lol, buddy, I'm sorry, but whoever told you that was lying to you.
Only taking on the ammo you going to use even is sound War thunder advice ;)
Finding a parking spot must be a real bitch to find. It's huge!!!
Not really, you just park it on top of two or more illegally parked Teslas ;)
And the Centurion is about the same size, just a bit smaller turret and gun.
@@SonsOfLorgar Wonder if it fits in a parking garage?
@@sirbum1918 a garage for a fire truck, yes, regular 3.5 ton car, no.
@@sirbum1918 I would make one big enough if I was given one!
@@paulthiessen6444 Good one! 🤩
your english is excellent
Thanks
@@stefankarlsson9762 Jag har en känsla av att ni kommer få en hel del besökare i sommar :D Bra reklam för museet detta.
3:05 also it comes with a tow hitch so you can bring your caravan 😅
Holy moly it's an actual leopard 2k please don't let it rust.
Shame it has no 20 mm auto cannon on the top
9 min. power pack swap? Well, damn....
Yup, much more efficient to swap to a fresh power pack than to tow the whole tank to a repair shop.
And if the power pack was taken out by enemy anti tank weapons, it just takes a bit longer to replace any damaged piping/tubing in the engine bay, stick welding the hole closed and put a fresh power pack in.
(The risk of a second hit to the weld steel patched hole is insignificant)
Some do in 7 minutes. (Applies only to versions without add-on armour.)
Tack ska du ha för ett fint genomgång om leopard stridsvagn! Now in English, thank you for a very detailed and informative walk through of the Leopard tank. You explained very well (1) the life of crew inside the leopard tank, (2) the accuracy and capability of the leopard tank, both of which no one else has depicted so visually as you have done. I have a few questions if you will allow,
(1) Is there air conditioning inside the tank against çold and heat? (2) Does it only fire these two rounds you mentioned or are there more. Can it fire missiles, rockets etc. (3) what is the maximum distance accuracy of this 120 mm gun? (4) what kind of life expectancy and maintenance does this smooth bore gun require? Thank you.
1. yes there is "air conditioning" in the older A4´s and A5´s, but thats basicly ventilation and NBC filtering. In the A6M and newer versions you got a low grade AC but not something comparable to a modern civil car.
2. APFSDS and HEAT-FS-MP are the core ammunition of modern NATO MBT´s, but there are some more specialised rounds availible like Canister (basicly shotgun round for tanks), tube launched ATGM (well, not really that worth using) and recently (around 2017) was the introduction of programmable HEAT-FS wich can airburst, explode on impact, explode after breach, explode without distance probe trigger (turning it into a HESH/HE-Frag) and a few more.
3. Depending on the type of Rheinmetall 120mm smoothbore and ammunition used. the RH120 L/44 (the shorter one) has an effective range of around 3200m with APFSDS, the L/55 (from A6 onwards) has an effective range of about 5000m with APFSDS
4. Depending on the gun and ammunition used. The RH120 L/44 with DM33 APFSDS has a life expectancy of around 600 shots before a barrel replacement is needed, with the more powerful DM53 the life expectancy of the L/44 sinks to around 300 shots.
The L/55 mounted on A6 and later models has a life expectancy of again around 600 shots with DM53.
@@zhufortheimpaler4041 The strv 122B intended for international deployment has full AC as well as additional armour (IED/mine and RPG) protection.
9:30 Swedish explanation of the "turret toss"
Was Stefan part of the testing of the T-80 as well?
So the commander is also the gunner ? Very strange. How does that work out for the commander ? 🤔
The gunner is the gunner and the commander is the commander, BUT the commander can also act as gunner using his own joystick
Excellent video but I think that tank needs to be kept indoors
commander, gunner, loader, driver. 4 crew?
These Germans and the cat names ...:)
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Awesome. Have ye got a Leopard 1 over there?
The Leo 2 is the only tank in the world that comes close to the Abrams...
Former 19kilo crewman....
The Germans. You've got to give it to them!
😻
Har dere en norsk leopard 1 på museet?😬🇳🇴
No
Leopard 2K ?
Imagine if Sweden chose the T-80 instead that would be something.
1min in i klippet syns ett fordon. Vad är det för fordon?
From the left you have Stridsvagn 2000 mock-up, the M1A1 Abram, the Kaknäs tower and the Leopard 2 A4.
@@johanmetreus1268 oki tnx :)
Leo 2 mit Einser A3 Turm ???
Why you didn't show the tank from the front is baffling to me.
Make up your mind...
ruclips.net/video/IhPuibTZ_tU/видео.htmlm3s
Hejsan Stefan. Testade man andra stridsvagnar under samma period som man testade Leoparden? Som M1A1 eller Challenger 1.
Ja, FMV testade både M1 och Leclerc samtidigt som Leopard2, jag vet inte om Challenger1 testades med, har för mig att det även var någon vagn som levererades lite sent.
Jag vet inte om man testade Challenger, men man testade även Abrams (den dyker t o m upp på en av bilderna i videon, jämte en Leopard 2) och jämförde dessutom med T-80.
Under första försöken 89-90 testades Leopard 2 A4 och M1A1, nästa omgång 2 år senare som syftade till att välja nästa vagn då var det Leo 2 Improved, M1A2 och Leclerc. Challenger drog sig ur innan försöken startade.
@@lavrentivs9891 vet inte T-80 men såg T-72 i Boden då
@@vfr492 T-72an tillhörde nog markstridsskolan, FM köppte in ett par östtyska T-stridsvagnar efter återförreningen, de som inte gick åt under testerna användes ofta som del av B-styrkan under slutövningar och liknande.
is your king tiger still there?
Yes, until 9th of April
@@arsenalensverigesforsvarsf6590 thx for letting me know
I am a Russian spy and would like to know moore, looking forward to a review of a moore recent tank.
*superior armor and armament but no place to grill hotdogs!*
Love your Swenglish, just kidding, you are better than me! ;) But it sounds charming.
I wonder why there isn't any blowout panels on the ammo compartment in the hull.
I guess it's difficult to build blowout panels in that exact spot, without compromising the structural strength of the hull.
But the Germans have solved that problem by developing insensitive ammunition, the 120mm DM63, DM73 and newer models.
You can shoot straight at it with an RPG and it doesn't ignite.
The reason they didn't go for full turret storage was due to the hydraulic fluid being a danger to the crew, if the lines burst. The Israelis experienced that issue in the Merkava, and they switched to full electric turret drive. But that needs space in the rear of the turret.
Unfortunately I don't think the Ukrainians will get that ammo, since its classified.
The Turks also didn't get the ammo, that's why their tanks exploded. They also stood around on the top of the hill, fully exposed, without cover, with full hull ammo. If you do that, you at least stay in a hull down position.
@@scratchy996 Thank you for the info! 👍
@@Pyhantaakka You're welcome.
One more thing, after the Turks lost those tanks, they added ERA blocks on the Leopard 2A4, for more protection.
The Ukrainians could do that too, they have plenty of ERA around :
ruclips.net/video/4HdYv2yq_BM/видео.html&ab_channel=shotasabauri
@@apis_aculei I think this was already better explained by Mr. scratchy996.
Spoiler alert: the Russians already know all the strengths and weaknesses of the leopard 2s
...and decided - once it'll show up at the battlefield to run away. Priceless
Soon in Kubinka Tank Museum.
Terveiset örkille, mordorin maahan, sauronin palvelijalle 🤣
@@awarti
ruclips.net/video/Z_yyvEr4jNU/видео.html
Have they not already got the Leopard 2 A4 on display, from the time when Kremlin wasn't obsessed turning Russia into Soviet 2.0?