Sure would like to see a series on NASA Research and Test Aircraft. I was Crew Chief on 837 and Both F-16 XL which you have done already. Good Job. I also was Crew Chief on other NASA aircraft in my Career, Bob
@Robert Garcia I cannot express to you how much your compliment means to me...as someone who has worked on both these airplanes...wow. Thank you so much!
Your opinion is, above all, more relevant than anyone else’s. In that respect I ask you…If pushed to it’s extremes, including thrust vectoring,how would this machine fare in contemporary air space, including combat with the SU-57?
Hey, they figured out how to make an air frame that can cut through the air, carry a shit ton of weapons and take a beating. All they had to do was upgrade the electronic, the engines and make slight tweaks to the air frame for improved aerodynamics and RCS.
Laws of diminishing returns. I think that you are right, this may be the most efficient airframe to date and perhaps the future. Build and improve the same airframe and reduce the cost through modularity. 15 is a great number, f-15 and AR15 both flexible to mission load-outs.
The F-15 is a flying corner reflector. The antithesis of stealthy design. By my eye, it stopped looking modern sometime back in the mid-80s. About the same time that the Foxbat started looking like a relic. For examples of timeless design, the F-16 takes that one hands down. (Right up til the Block 60, when they had a contest to see how fugly they could make it.) In the era before that, the F-86. Before that, the Spit. And before that, the Albatross. And from the pioneering era, nothing was as beautiful as the Taube. All five of these classics have timeless beauty. This bears repeating: *F-16* *F-86* *Spitfire* *Albatross* *Taube* There was a time when I absolutely LOVED the F-15. And I actually hated the F-16 for daring to tread in its territory. And I also remember when the overtake happened. It was a bittersweet day when I finally fell out of love with the Eagle. I actually held out til the early 90s. Right around 92 or 93. The F-16 jumped to the top of my list, and it has remained there ever since. As for sexiest F-16 of all time, that one has never been built. It would be a retrofit of the YF-16 with a bigmouth inlet, an F110-GE-132 motor, and an MATV nozzle. THAT is my dream jet right there. Also be sure to add the MATV's moving sidestick, replacing the one from the YF that didn't move at all. This is the ultimate aircraft, in my book. I'd be willing to consider adapting the paint job from the STOL/MTD. That might look snazzy.
@Greg Spolar, if you go all the way back to the beginning of the F-15 in what MacDac was trying to sell to the AF, they were pushing the Eagle as a Super Phantom. Doing all the roles the Phantom did, to include tactical nuke strike fighter. The base model even came equipped with the pit to put a Wizzo. It was only afterward that the Air-to-Air generals took charge of F-X and got McD to go along with the "Not A Pound For Air to Ground" mantra. Ironically, it was the F-16 program that began its life as a pure air-to-air fighter. Then during the FSD phase it morphed from LWF to ACF, with the F-16 becoming the eventual replacement for the many roles done by the F-4, including tac nuke. The most needed change was the switch from the pencil-nosed YF-16 to the bulbous FSD nose, so that a full function fire control radar could fit inside. So the F-15 & F-16 Programs started in opposite places, then evolved in these opposite directions with each ending where the other was starting from. PureA2A vs MultiRole. Only much later did the F-15 branch off to a new species which fit with the original concept. The Strike Eagle. And around that same timeframe did the F-16 stop being a joke when it came to its air-to-air capability. It finally got BVR missiles. First by way of adapting Aim-7s for certain Guard units. Then the more comprehensive Aim-120 fix. If you plot the trajectories of the Eagle & Falcon programs, it looks kind of like this scissors dogfight maneuver. Starting in opposing positions, then fighting to get into the position of where the other one was. Then after assessing this new position you've established, putting all this effort toward getting back to where your original position had been... Kind of. With the F-16, it was originally there to just boost the numbers when going into combat. Give the Ruskies a bunch of cheap targets to shoot at so that the prized F-15s would not be double teamed. The final position it ended at was being this amazingly capable air-to-air fighter which also retained a respectable air-to-ground role. No longer throw away. With the F-15, it went from Super Phantom to this final position of Super Phantom in the E-model. With the C-model drilling useless holes endlessly in the sky. One could say that the Seagull (C-eagle) obsoleted itself. It did its job so well that no one was willing to challenge it. So in the end, it had no one to play with. Both the F-16 & F-15E got Lantirn. So this let the AF junk their Vark Fleet, even though neither came close to the full capabilities of the -111 in its highly specialized role. The Vark had always been a maintenance nightmare, having stretched science fiction capability into the realm of science fact. It never got adequately replaced, but from the accountant's perspective, this retirement came as a relief. As for the A-10, the real reason the AF hates it is because it was always the step-child. From the moment it was conceived. Even when the USAF got a Chief of Staff who _was_ a Warthog Warrior himself, what did he try to do? Kill it. Congress forced him to keep it. So this is USAF fighter aircraft through the 70s, 80s & 90s, into the 2000s, in a nutshell.
@Alan Whiteside I was a machine repairman in maintenance behind the hush houses. Bldg 56 I think?? (spent a lot of time on that roof watching vertical take offs or emergency landings using the cables). I worked on hyd. carts, nitrogen carts , engine dollies etc. I even got a couple F15 and 18 back seat rides during hush house engine runs. Good times. I was always impressed with the flight mechanics experience and expertise working on those planes. I was chosen as the only maintenance guy to go to Lemoore for the big F-18 mod in 1985 (cracked formers). I wanted nothing more than to travel for MAC after that, but sadly that was my only one.
@Alan Whiteside hey!! I have something nostalgic you may be interested in.... or another retiree you may know. Remember the Roll-Outs?? Big windsocks on the light posts??? Well, damn the luck one of those turned up missing when we were tasked with removing them. It's from 10,000th airplane. It has some stains, but it has never been in the sun since it came off the light post. It's yours if you want it. I live on a boat now getting ready to head south when borders open up. I'm gettin' rid of stuff!!
@Alan Whiteside Hey!! I have something nostalgic you or some other retiree may be interested in. It's one of the big wind socks from the 10,000th plane roll out. It's yours if you want.
I love how practical the usaf was with their priorities. They put tvc and canards on a fighter jet to increas air base operability... oh also it does flips and shit.
There are so many Ace Combat fans here...I thought I was the only one. Thanks for the AC5 reference, and I think I am going to start streaming Ace Combat play.
8492nd: "DIE, BLAZE, DIE HUCKKEBEIN THE RAVEN, DIE EDGE, DIE JOKER, DIE SNOWMAN, , JUST DIE!" Pops: "Is that you again 8492nd? Been hearin all about 8492nd THIS, 8492nd THAT, stinking up the sky, hell I got tired of flying in the same sky with ya!.."🤣😊😂😅😹🤣
Yet another solid, excellently narrated video. At this rate, you'll no doubt gain momentum over similar channels documenting aviation history. Your ability to deliver a concise, information rich dialogue without drag or unnecessary info overload offers ease of information assimilation that delivers on viewer satisfaction. You were born for this!
HaveBlu the original 2d thrust vectoring part of this aircraft’s test flight series was used to study and develop concepts that would become the F-22 Raptor
Wow, I knew of the STOL/MTD and ACTIVE programs but had no idea that F-15 participated in so much research, that was a very informative and interesting video. I cant seem to find anything on the final disposition of the aircraft other than that NASA had plans to put it on permanent display outside at Dryden. This F-15 deserves a space inside an air Conditioned museum.
well, "we" get nostalgic and all that, but remember it's just an asset. It did its job, quite well in fact, and now it's retired. It did a shit-ton of test work both with the USAF and NASA. Combined with the X-29's work with thrust vectoring and flight control enhancements, those two platforms are vital predecessors to today's 5th generation and beyond fighters and other weapons systems.
I saw it on a static display at Edwards AFB a few years ago. (Inside the AFB) It’s stuck on top of a pole. Kinda a shame it didn’t end up in a proper museum for the public to see.
@@PilotPhotog outdoors??? Ion know about that 😬😬 Last time I saw a plane on display outside was like a week ago, and it was in SHAMBLES, would rather not see that happen to this plane 😭
Would love to see a series on NASA test planes. Also...how does this channel NOT have more subscribers??? Your videos are very good, excellent content sir...👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you so much Blaine! I try to get a little better with each video and am always trying new things, glad you enjoyed the video and more on the way!
This is exactly why I started following him so long ago. These other channels with robots talking or a hired voice actor doesn't have the same direct interaction with the RUclipsr.
It's interesting to see the F-15 in this layout, It's a lot similar to what Russia did with their SU-33 by adding canards due to the much heavier radar at that time. Probably the sexiest American jet I've seen thus far, though the F-14 Tomcat holds a very special place in my heart. Love that big girl.
Thank you and glad you enjoy the videos! As far as the older vids...no worries I try to get better with each video so I am glad that there is a noticeable improvement in the series. More to come!
Imagine if boeing decided to produced an evolved F15, this fighter could be the next best thing. An F15 with thrust vectoring, reverse thrust and great dogfighting.
@BoogieBass22 well the F15EX is basically the latest and most advanced variant. Imagining have the experimental fighter combined with the F15EX tech and improvements, u could have a near 5th gen top of the line frontline fighter. Without the stealth of course. Though u can have radar absorbent materials and paint to enhance it but u cant change the shape much for a stealthy design. I would imagine the best F15 to possibly be imagined to be the experimental fighter with the technology of the F15EX plus the F15 silent eagle combined. Reduce RCS, internal carriage bay, advance performance and the latest features. But that might make the price pricy
@BoogieBass22 Depends. I did read on the F35 having its so called beast mode where it carries ordance outside for situations where stealth isnt really required. So i mean u can have the SE and EX at the same time. Its really the application uses if they need to go quiet or not.
@@Benjamin-wy4dj they did that with the 15ex. It has internal weapons bay, RAM, and its 2 tails went from being at a 90° angle to the body to having a slight 15° angle which reduced its RCS by something like near 80%
Wow, great video! You spoke distinctly & annuciated your words. So many other try to talk so fast, they can't be understood. Your depth of coverage was very detailed. The content was terriffic. Thank you, subscribed.
@@AL3X2580 F-22 isn't designed to get in aerial engagements...Just lock pop and run...the thrust vectoring is a quick fix for some angle of attack issues... it was controversial, over the F-23 with Conventional Manuverability and energy retention...Many look back at the F-23 with a "damn, that mightve just been the greatest air superiority foghter to never enter service, ever designed..."
This was a really amazing aircraft, with fascinating legacy. Thank you for the awesome and entertaining video. Sure would like to see a series on NASA research and test aircraft.
So well done, just so detailed and fascinating. I’m binge watching like crazy. I dreamed of documentaries like this when I was searching for wings on the discovery channel when I was a kid. I love this channel.
Thanks for another well-researched and informative video. A series on NASA Research and Test Aircraft would be great, particularly if as well-researched as your previous aircraft videos.
Too nice video about this version of F- 15 ,too clearly explained of its characters and abilities thanks a lot 👍🙏..wow its showing development of F 15 in contentious state.
A piece of science flying through the skies, that's what the F-15 Active was, really gorgeous airplane too. I would love to see a video of the nasa planes! Thanks Juan!👍
Don't forget the "streak Eagle" and the stuff it did.. Didn't do as MUCH as this jet but man oh man, it set records and was fast as a white house intern running from Bill Clinton...
Fun fact: this aircraft was originally created for Evel Knievel, but his sponsors pulled out after he stated he was just going to use it to jump a line of buses.
X-31 would be cool. I know NASA has to have a bunch of footage of this thing. Shame they don’t share it. Makes you wonder how effective it was if it’s still kept secret
Nice information/shots of an already proficient platform. And by the way, that last shot looking head-on gives me the idea that the name Strike Eagle came from just that look. The canards make it look like it is indeed ready to strike. Very nice article and I think I'll go look at your F-16 Viper development piece. Keep up the good work.
I was honored to have flown the first flight of this bird after its reconfiguration with canards and a new digital fly-by-wire control system. The first S/MTD flight was on 7 Sept 1988 with the -220 engines but with round non-thrust vectoring nozzles. Envelope expansion and handling quality testing were the main goals with speeds up to 1.85 Mach and great flying qualities. When the 2-dimensional Thrust-vectoring, Thrust-reversing nozzles became available the following year, the first flight was made over Missouri on 10 May 1989. After initial checkout flights with the total integrated control system, we ferried the bird to Edwards AFB for the joint test program with the USAF test team. Over the next 2 years, we met all the program goals and achieved takeoff distances of less than 1000 feet and landing distances as short as 1,266 feet.
I'm pretty sure I did a book report on this as a kid...thats the kind of kid I was lol. I also had the page for this jet in my Aircraft of the World binder (never did finish out the full set)
I got to see this jet perform at an Edwards EFB airshow in the 90s. Absolutely incredible maneuverability, I think the take-off roll nose wheel up was under 250 feet with lift-off under 1000'. It was a long time ago, so the numbers may be off a bit, but I remember the take-off was incredibly short.
On the XBOX 360 , there's a game called Tom Clancys HAWX. you can fly this F15. They call the F15 Active. It's a great fighter jets game with a bunch of great jet fighters to play with.
Thank you 🙏 for an excellent succinct informative flawless video 👍🙏💪..I still remember reading about it back then that it actually was the first aircraft to land by just modifying thrust and no aerodynamic surface change.. that's incredible 💪👍
I've seen some comments relating to Ace Combat. For light flightsim gamers, Ace Combat really made the MTD/Active a legend. I really like maining it in the PS2 trilogy as it gave you kickass super maneuverability without defaulting to some Sukhoi or an F-22.
Nice work on this presentation, great job on the research, images and footage - most of this was new information to me. And yes, more videos on NASA programs!
@@anthonyrobinson7715 Same here. Back in the 90s. The whole arc took a turn after the fall of the Soviet Union and the McClanahan (I think that's the name of the main character) narrative transitioned into speculative fiction where Communist hardliners took over instead of Yeltsin. It makes for an interesting thought experiment. "What if the Soviet Union didn't dissolve in 1991?"
I kinda wish that they had just kept using this thing to keep testing new stuff. One can only imagine all the random parts and gadgets that would be sticking out of it 30 years from now.
Has anyone read the book by Dale Brown "Day of the Cheetah"? This book describes this aircraft in detail. Did I mention that he first published it in 1989!! What great insight and research, - the functions and capabilities that Brown describes in the book took the passing of decades to become reality. (F35, F22, Euro Fighter etc).
First saw this aircraft as the MTD Variant on Ace Combat Assault Horizon Legacy. It was an interesting jet. It was also the second American jet I saw with Conards as I usually see those on European jets
Am I the only one who wonders why the Aur Force didn't upgrade their Eagles with thrust vectoring capability?? They should have also expanded on the F-18 HARV and F-16 VISTA. These would be good contenders to the likes of the SU-30SM
I wondered the same thing. I know when I was crew chief on the F15e we took the cft's off to demo the jet and it kept push g limits. I don't know if this airframe could handle thrust vectoring.
They’re superior to the Su-30 without thrust vectoring, because they have better high-speed sustained turn rates, better energy maintenance, and much better radar and avionics. Thrust vectoring just isn’t really relevant in modern air combat. No US pilot is going to get into a turning fight at 250 mph. US doctrine since 1942 has been to avoid this at all costs.
Just be glad that you didn't have to work on it... I did, what a mess from a maintenance standpoint (especially the avionics). It was a badass aircraft though! I was reading day of the Cheetah not long after I worked on it.
Thanks for commenting and I can only imagine how hard it must have been to maintain, I am thrilled that someone such as yourself who worked on 837 took the time to watch the video and provide feedback. I do plan on reading Day of the Cheetah and have begun the series at the beginning with Flight of the Old Dog
@@PilotPhotog that whole series is excellent by the way. One thing that you missed was the rather serious IFE that occurred when the aircraft bounced on landing and then changed the nozzles when the weight off wheels switch was incorrectly interpreted at near ground level, resulting in the nose gear being slammed into the ground so hard that it bent significantly (and this wasn't standard F-15 landing gear - this was off-road rated stuff). They had to land on the lake bed, I remember the pilot telling the tower that he'd have full nose authority all the way down to 50 knots. When the nose gear finally hit the lakebed, it did a rather abrupt right turn before coming to a stop. It was a brilliant landing and saved the plane for another day (1992 or 1993 I think, although it could have been earlier - before NASA got it). I was an F-15 avionics tech at Edwards AFB from 1989-1994.
What an amazing story and thank you for sharing. I plan on a whole series about the NASA testbeds and when I revisit this airplane I’d like to include this incident and cite you for credit if that is ok.
Sure would like to see a series on NASA Research and Test Aircraft. I was Crew Chief on 837 and Both F-16 XL which you have done already. Good Job. I also was Crew Chief on other NASA aircraft in my Career, Bob
There is a documentary about them. I believe it's about alot of the aircraft that were tested at Dryden.
@Robert Garcia I cannot express to you how much your compliment means to me...as someone who has worked on both these airplanes...wow. Thank you so much!
Interesting video. Does this mean that the US Military had the ability to implement (or actually had implemented) thrust vectoring prior to the USSR?
@@spiritbreathlife7492 more like at the same time.
@@PilotPhotog
Why was the Thrust Vectoring Engines not carried forward on Production F-15s and F-16s?
I'm proud to say that I was a Crew Chief on this aircraft in 1989. It's amazing aircraft. I was assigned to Edwards AFB F-15 CFT.
Awesome and thank you for your service!
Thank you for your sacrifice and your service, Chief!
Your opinion is, above all, more relevant than anyone else’s. In that respect I ask you…If pushed to it’s extremes, including thrust vectoring,how would this machine fare in contemporary air space, including combat with the SU-57?
Salute to David Watson
Wow!
Incredible how a nearly 50 year old design still looks like a state of the art killing machine!
Hey, they figured out how to make an air frame that can cut through the air, carry a shit ton of weapons and take a beating. All they had to do was upgrade the electronic, the engines and make slight tweaks to the air frame for improved aerodynamics and RCS.
Laws of diminishing returns. I think that you are right, this may be the most efficient airframe to date and perhaps the future. Build and improve the same airframe and reduce the cost through modularity. 15 is a great number, f-15 and AR15 both flexible to mission load-outs.
The F-15 is a flying corner reflector. The antithesis of stealthy design. By my eye, it stopped looking modern sometime back in the mid-80s. About the same time that the Foxbat started looking like a relic.
For examples of timeless design, the F-16 takes that one hands down. (Right up til the Block 60, when they had a contest to see how fugly they could make it.) In the era before that, the F-86. Before that, the Spit. And before that, the Albatross. And from the pioneering era, nothing was as beautiful as the Taube. All five of these classics have timeless beauty. This bears repeating:
*F-16*
*F-86*
*Spitfire*
*Albatross*
*Taube*
There was a time when I absolutely LOVED the F-15. And I actually hated the F-16 for daring to tread in its territory. And I also remember when the overtake happened. It was a bittersweet day when I finally fell out of love with the Eagle. I actually held out til the early 90s. Right around 92 or 93. The F-16 jumped to the top of my list, and it has remained there ever since.
As for sexiest F-16 of all time, that one has never been built. It would be a retrofit of the YF-16 with a bigmouth inlet, an F110-GE-132 motor, and an MATV nozzle. THAT is my dream jet right there. Also be sure to add the MATV's moving sidestick, replacing the one from the YF that didn't move at all. This is the ultimate aircraft, in my book. I'd be willing to consider adapting the paint job from the STOL/MTD. That might look snazzy.
@Greg Spolar, if you go all the way back to the beginning of the F-15 in what MacDac was trying to sell to the AF, they were pushing the Eagle as a Super Phantom. Doing all the roles the Phantom did, to include tactical nuke strike fighter. The base model even came equipped with the pit to put a Wizzo. It was only afterward that the Air-to-Air generals took charge of F-X and got McD to go along with the "Not A Pound For Air to Ground" mantra.
Ironically, it was the F-16 program that began its life as a pure air-to-air fighter. Then during the FSD phase it morphed from LWF to ACF, with the F-16 becoming the eventual replacement for the many roles done by the F-4, including tac nuke. The most needed change was the switch from the pencil-nosed YF-16 to the bulbous FSD nose, so that a full function fire control radar could fit inside.
So the F-15 & F-16 Programs started in opposite places, then evolved in these opposite directions with each ending where the other was starting from. PureA2A vs MultiRole. Only much later did the F-15 branch off to a new species which fit with the original concept. The Strike Eagle. And around that same timeframe did the F-16 stop being a joke when it came to its air-to-air capability. It finally got BVR missiles. First by way of adapting Aim-7s for certain Guard units. Then the more comprehensive Aim-120 fix.
If you plot the trajectories of the Eagle & Falcon programs, it looks kind of like this scissors dogfight maneuver. Starting in opposing positions, then fighting to get into the position of where the other one was. Then after assessing this new position you've established, putting all this effort toward getting back to where your original position had been... Kind of.
With the F-16, it was originally there to just boost the numbers when going into combat. Give the Ruskies a bunch of cheap targets to shoot at so that the prized F-15s would not be double teamed. The final position it ended at was being this amazingly capable air-to-air fighter which also retained a respectable air-to-ground role. No longer throw away.
With the F-15, it went from Super Phantom to this final position of Super Phantom in the E-model. With the C-model drilling useless holes endlessly in the sky. One could say that the Seagull (C-eagle) obsoleted itself. It did its job so well that no one was willing to challenge it. So in the end, it had no one to play with.
Both the F-16 & F-15E got Lantirn. So this let the AF junk their Vark Fleet, even though neither came close to the full capabilities of the -111 in its highly specialized role. The Vark had always been a maintenance nightmare, having stretched science fiction capability into the realm of science fact. It never got adequately replaced, but from the accountant's perspective, this retirement came as a relief.
As for the A-10, the real reason the AF hates it is because it was always the step-child. From the moment it was conceived. Even when the USAF got a Chief of Staff who _was_ a Warthog Warrior himself, what did he try to do? Kill it. Congress forced him to keep it.
So this is USAF fighter aircraft through the 70s, 80s & 90s, into the 2000s, in a nutshell.
The F-15 is still one hell of an aircraft but it's design does look a little dated but like the old saying goes if it ain't broke don't fix it
All i can think of while seeing the F15 active is the 8492nd squadron from ace combat 5
AC5 was great. Zero is still my favorite though. Thanks for commenting!
Vipers got you in the pipe 5x5.
I flew this thing in HAWX back in the day. The thing was so manouvrable i clould fuck up all the shit they threw at me.
Not to mention the painting is drop dead gorgeous...
Bruh
I was privileged to watch every takeoff and landing when it operated in St. Louis. A perk working the flight line at McDonnell-Douglas
@Alan Whiteside I was a machine repairman in maintenance behind the hush houses. Bldg 56 I think?? (spent a lot of time on that roof watching vertical take offs or emergency landings using the cables). I worked on hyd. carts, nitrogen carts , engine dollies etc. I even got a couple F15 and 18 back seat rides during hush house engine runs. Good times. I was always impressed with the flight mechanics experience and expertise working on those planes. I was chosen as the only maintenance guy to go to Lemoore for the big F-18 mod in 1985 (cracked formers). I wanted nothing more than to travel for MAC after that, but sadly that was my only one.
@Alan Whiteside Oh hell yeah!!! I remember John Roller, he was a building mechanic. I bought a car from him. Was at his house several times
@Alan Whiteside hey!! I have something nostalgic you may be interested in.... or another retiree you may know. Remember the Roll-Outs?? Big windsocks on the light posts??? Well, damn the luck one of those turned up missing when we were tasked with removing them. It's from 10,000th airplane. It has some stains, but it has never been in the sun since it came off the light post. It's yours if you want it. I live on a boat now getting ready to head south when borders open up. I'm gettin' rid of stuff!!
@Alan Whiteside Hey!! I have something nostalgic you or some other retiree may be interested in. It's one of the big wind socks from the 10,000th plane roll out. It's yours if you want.
I love how practical the usaf was with their priorities. They put tvc and canards on a fighter jet to increas air base operability... oh also it does flips and shit.
I agree with you totally, like what were they thinking? Let's just do this for fun.
Having the air bases in western Europe hit by soviets was a real threat.
AMVM oookay..? and that does relate here... how?
@@cn.st.182 you're so stupid it hurts.
@@cn.st.182 Because the thrust vectoring and canards were for supposed to reduce the take-off length.
Therapist: the 8492nd squadron doesn’t exist. The 8492nd can’t hurt you.
8492nd Squadron:
There are so many Ace Combat fans here...I thought I was the only one. Thanks for the AC5 reference, and I think I am going to start streaming Ace Combat play.
PilotPhotog I want you to try something: put a black F-14D in your thumbnail and count how many nuggets crawl out from 5000 feet
8492nd: "DIE, BLAZE, DIE HUCKKEBEIN THE RAVEN, DIE EDGE, DIE JOKER, DIE SNOWMAN, , JUST DIE!"
Pops: "Is that you again 8492nd? Been hearin all about 8492nd THIS, 8492nd THAT, stinking up the sky, hell I got tired of flying in the same sky with ya!.."🤣😊😂😅😹🤣
That squadron doesn't exist. I don't know what your talking about...
Belka did nothing wrong
Underrated comment.
That’s almost Honda Civic level of modding.
I laughed way to hard at this comment, thank you!
vtec just kicked in yo
Let's see.
Flashy cool paint job: ✔️
Add more wings: ✔️
Engine swap: ✔️
Exhaust mod: ✔️
Yep.
The shingo plane
almost
i remember seeing this plane for the first time in Ace Combat, Grabacr and Sorcerer squadron
@Marc Michaud i think it was 2d nozzles in ac4
I'm starting to think there are many fellow Ace Combat fans here...should I do videos on the series? Would you watch them?
@@PilotPhotog yes especially 5 where they give some rare plane variants like f4x phantom!
@@PilotPhotog Yes, please!
PilotPhotog yes that would be amazing
Tfw you rewatch the vid several times because you just can’t stop drooling over the F-15 🤤
Yet another solid, excellently narrated video. At this rate, you'll no doubt gain momentum over similar channels documenting aviation history. Your ability to deliver a concise, information rich dialogue without drag or unnecessary info overload offers ease of information assimilation that delivers on viewer satisfaction. You were born for this!
Thank you so much, I really appreciate your feedback and will continue working to improve with each successive video.
I've always loved this plane since 1976 . As well today 😊😊😊❤❤❤
The F15 Active is such a gorgeous aircraft, wish they adapted the idea more
I get that forward canards aren't great for radar cross section, but they could have at least fitted thrust vectoring into the F-15X or something.
HaveBlu the original 2d thrust vectoring part of this aircraft’s test flight series was used to study and develop concepts that would become the F-22 Raptor
...oblamer stopped the production of the F22 so i'd hoped they might build a few hundred of THESE!!! ;)
@@caseygtrNo need for thrust vectoring in the F-15EX. It just isn’t very relevant in realistic combat situations.
@@bluemarlin8138 I know... but still.
SORCERER 1 TO ALL PLANES:
APPLY FULL THRUST. DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT HEADING BACK
Love the Ace Combat references
Ace combat 7 reference: Roger that Sorcerer 1, Spare 15 full thrust
Ace combat 4: Copy that, Mobius 1 on full thrust and a prayer
@@PilotPhotog Then you will love the fact that this aircraft has now been released as DLC for Ace Combat 7.
Man, what a beautiful aircraft. I wish we had these in the AF.
@@mingouczjcz3800 Bruh the Rafale is far more advanced
Yea me too but unfortunately the USAF is more into BVR instead of dogfighting and supermanueverability
Nice job! And of course we want to see more test aircraft videos .............. dah
Thank you and working on it!
That'd be amazing
Wow, I knew of the STOL/MTD and ACTIVE programs but had no idea that F-15 participated in so much research, that was a very informative and interesting video. I cant seem to find anything on the final disposition of the aircraft other than that NASA had plans to put it on permanent display outside at Dryden. This F-15 deserves a space inside an air Conditioned museum.
Thank you I do believe it is on static display...outside? Not sure but agreed that it should be kept indoors.
well, "we" get nostalgic and all that, but remember it's just an asset. It did its job, quite well in fact, and now it's retired. It did a shit-ton of test work both with the USAF and NASA. Combined with the X-29's work with thrust vectoring and flight control enhancements, those two platforms are vital predecessors to today's 5th generation and beyond fighters and other weapons systems.
I saw it on a static display at Edwards AFB a few years ago. (Inside the AFB) It’s stuck on top of a pole. Kinda a shame it didn’t end up in a proper museum for the public to see.
@@PilotPhotog outdoors??? Ion know about that 😬😬
Last time I saw a plane on display outside was like a week ago, and it was in SHAMBLES, would rather not see that happen to this plane 😭
@@aceofaces1506 hopefully they can hanger it soon
Would love to see a series on NASA test planes. Also...how does this channel NOT have more subscribers??? Your videos are very good, excellent content sir...👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you so much and I try to get a little better with each video.
Man you have a great voice for this. Your improvement in cadence and enunciation is great. Fantastic job man, a jewel of a channel
Thank you so much Blaine! I try to get a little better with each video and am always trying new things, glad you enjoyed the video and more on the way!
This is exactly why I started following him so long ago. These other channels with robots talking or a hired voice actor doesn't have the same direct interaction with the RUclipsr.
It's interesting to see the F-15 in this layout, It's a lot similar to what Russia did with their SU-33 by adding canards due to the much heavier radar at that time. Probably the sexiest American jet I've seen thus far, though the F-14 Tomcat holds a very special place in my heart. Love that big girl.
Thank you and I am planning a video on the F-14. Thanks for commenting!
She was one of the thiccest!
The F-111 aardvark and F-8 crusader are good looking too
@@wolfairforce5427 I just love aircraft in general.
F-14 and f-16: *have a baby*
F-35: WHAT THE HELL IS THIS
F-15MTD: "Your death"
You should have way more likes for this bro
@@davecrupel2817 LOL 😃
Sooo awesome! I’m geeking out over your recent videos, not to slight your previous ones by any means! Very glad your channel was in my recommended.
Thank you and glad you enjoy the videos! As far as the older vids...no worries I try to get better with each video so I am glad that there is a noticeable improvement in the series. More to come!
Imagine if boeing decided to produced an evolved F15, this fighter could be the next best thing. An F15 with thrust vectoring, reverse thrust and great dogfighting.
But all those money found a much better use on the development of fifth gen fighter jet
@BoogieBass22 well the F15EX is basically the latest and most advanced variant. Imagining have the experimental fighter combined with the F15EX tech and improvements, u could have a near 5th gen top of the line frontline fighter. Without the stealth of course. Though u can have radar absorbent materials and paint to enhance it but u cant change the shape much for a stealthy design.
I would imagine the best F15 to possibly be imagined to be the experimental fighter with the technology of the F15EX plus the F15 silent eagle combined. Reduce RCS, internal carriage bay, advance performance and the latest features.
But that might make the price pricy
@BoogieBass22 Depends. I did read on the F35 having its so called beast mode where it carries ordance outside for situations where stealth isnt really required.
So i mean u can have the SE and EX at the same time. Its really the application uses if they need to go quiet or not.
@@Benjamin-wy4dj they did that with the 15ex. It has internal weapons bay, RAM, and its 2 tails went from being at a 90° angle to the body to having a slight 15° angle which reduced its RCS by something like near 80%
@@Benjamin-wy4dj also, the cost for each EX still comes in way below the cost of a single F - 22
Wow, great video! You spoke distinctly & annuciated your words. So many other try to talk so fast, they can't be understood. Your depth of coverage was very detailed. The content was terriffic. Thank you, subscribed.
Finally! Always love your content!❤️
Thank you much appreciated!
These videos keep getting better and better. Keep it up!
Thank you much appreciated!
This research needs to be incorporated into the new batch of F-15Xs
I'm sure much of this is being used. So much valuable information to incorporate.
Thrust vectoring proved to be a shitty concept for aerodynamically maneuverable energy fighters
All the us learned was it burned energy
Grand Duke of Mecklenburg-Schwerin why is it in the f-22 then?
@@AL3X2580 F-22 isn't designed to get in aerial engagements...Just lock pop and run...the thrust vectoring is a quick fix for some angle of attack issues... it was controversial, over the F-23 with Conventional Manuverability and energy retention...Many look back at the F-23 with a "damn, that mightve just been the greatest air superiority foghter to never enter service, ever designed..."
Thank you for compiling this footage!
Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for commenting
Nice video, as always
thank you!
This will surely go straight to my treasure trove of playlists. Thank you for making such videos.
YES!!!!do make a series on NASA research and the aircrafts involved. This video was so much informative.Loved it :) :)
Thank you so much and I will start working on more videos on the NASA series.
Your videos are so well done. I watched this video 3 times. Fantastic job. Loved it. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
you can get this exact plane and skin in Ace Combat 0. it was always my favorite
All three PS2 titles in fact. Except it’s signature livery isn’t in 5
Great video, so happy I came upon your channel! Thanks !
Thank you and glad you enjoyed it
This was a really amazing aircraft, with fascinating legacy. Thank you for the awesome and entertaining video. Sure would like to see a series on NASA research and test aircraft.
Thank you and I will start working on a series on NASA aircraft!
Wow. Thanks for using Imperial measurements. So refreshing. Great video and info.
Great Video, very interesting👍🏻
thank you glad you enjoyed it and thanks for all of your comments Sahan
Very cool & interesting video. Thanks for sharing the story of this remarkable aircraft.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
Great video about a very interesting aircraft!
Thanks you much appreciated!
So well done, just so detailed and fascinating. I’m binge watching like crazy. I dreamed of documentaries like this when I was searching for wings on the discovery channel when I was a kid.
I love this channel.
Thank you so much - I try to get a little better with each video - more on the way!
I loved thst show
This was my fav aircraft to fly in the Ace Combat series
Good Lord, she's a beauty! That color-scheme is gorgeous & those canards...amazing!!! Great images, too.
Great video. One historical correction. 71-290 was not used as the F-15E prototype. That was the role of 71-291 (F-15B No. 2). I was there.
Thanks for pointing this out, I appreciate the feedback especially from someone who was around the program.
Thanks for another well-researched and informative video. A series on NASA Research and Test Aircraft would be great, particularly if as well-researched as your previous aircraft videos.
Thanks, will do!
**Happy Sorcerer noises**
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Hey there buddy, you still alive?
Would love to see a series on NASA test planes, also I hope you will grow into a massive youtuber, you definetly deserve it :D
Thank you and I hope so too...I just try to get a little better with each video.
another great video - and who would have thought that the beautiful F-15 was missing it's canards all this time...
Loved this thing from Ace Combat 7! Fav standard craft!
I knew a guy who flew this, he now works for an insurance company based in Oured, the capital city of Osea.
But can he sell insurance throughout the Osean Federation or just in Osea?
@@PilotPhotog ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
is that an ace combat reference? Or am I just stupid?
@@thefelon8027 You're correct, it is an Ace Combat reference; specifically from Ace Combat Zero.
@@solowingborders3239 LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Too nice video about this version of F- 15 ,too clearly explained of its characters and abilities thanks a lot 👍🙏..wow its showing development of F 15 in contentious state.
A piece of science flying through the skies, that's what the F-15 Active was, really gorgeous airplane too. I would love to see a video of the nasa planes! Thanks Juan!👍
Thank you Juan as always and I will start working on the NASA test plane series.
Great job, I like your video
Thank you!
Id like to see this F15 at a airshow to see what this baby can do. I bet the turn rate and maneuverability is insane!
With those canted canards and that paint scheme, possibly one of the most beautiful aircraft that has ever flown.
That front profile looks oddly familiar.
Wonder if China stole that for their pos J-20's.
Most of the form factors are similar. Eg. Most fighters have canopy on top, in front....
more like the Russian SU
The J-20 looks like a kitbash of a F-22 and the MiG 1.44.
@@travisbishop782 FR, and dang the J-20 is so ugly.
@@daciannation5847 ikr. The F-117 is 1st gen stealth and stiĺl looks better.
Fantastic content 👌
Glad you think so!
Probably the most bad ass F15 ever
Don't forget the "streak Eagle" and the stuff it did.. Didn't do as MUCH as this jet but man oh man, it set records and was fast as a white house intern running from Bill Clinton...
I dunno, the EX is supposed to be a flying missile magazine.
Yeah!! Bring us more, this is great!!
Fun fact: this aircraft was originally created for Evel Knievel, but his sponsors pulled out after he stated he was just going to use it to jump a line of buses.
you make some great videos buddy!
Glad you like them!
Great video!! It would be nice to watch more video's of NASA research planes!
Thanks, will do!
Bad ass! Very cool story. I’d love to see more about experimental planes. Thanks for making this document.
Awesome...
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I can't imagine the stress on the airframe these high angles of attack would create.
👍 I like the red white and blue paint scheme- similar to the Thunderbirds F/16s. I hope they put it in a aviation museum somewhere.
I believe it is on static display at Edwards AFB...thanks for commenting!
Should fall 837 the Frankenstein eagle lol. What a jam packed research career
I worked with one of the flight test engineers.
Cool video very interesting.
X-31 would be cool. I know NASA has to have a bunch of footage of this thing. Shame they don’t share it. Makes you wonder how effective it was if it’s still kept secret
Nice information/shots of an already proficient platform. And by the way, that last shot looking head-on gives me the idea that the name Strike Eagle came from just that look. The canards make it look like it is indeed ready to strike. Very nice article and I think I'll go look at your F-16 Viper development piece. Keep up the good work.
Thank you and I appreciate you checking out my other videos, more on the way!
I was honored to have flown the first flight of this bird after its reconfiguration with canards and a new digital fly-by-wire control system. The first S/MTD flight was on 7 Sept 1988 with the -220 engines but with round non-thrust vectoring nozzles. Envelope expansion and handling quality testing were the main goals with speeds up to 1.85 Mach and great flying qualities.
When the 2-dimensional Thrust-vectoring, Thrust-reversing nozzles became available the following year, the first flight was made over Missouri on 10 May 1989. After initial checkout flights with the total integrated control system, we ferried the bird to Edwards AFB for the joint test program with the USAF test team. Over the next 2 years, we met all the program goals and achieved takeoff distances of less than 1000 feet and landing distances as short as 1,266 feet.
Salute to lawsom1
nice video
Reminds me of the novel "Day of the Cheetah" by Dale Brown.
Because such a plane heavily featured in the book?
I'm pretty sure I did a book report on this as a kid...thats the kind of kid I was lol. I also had the page for this jet in my Aircraft of the World binder (never did finish out the full set)
Great book...first thing I thought when I saw the thumbnail
heyy, same. if i had to make a book report, it'd probably be about "plan of attack" or basically the american holocaust.
@@KnightDriveTV that it was!
I got to see this jet perform at an Edwards EFB airshow in the 90s. Absolutely incredible maneuverability, I think the take-off roll nose wheel up was under 250 feet with lift-off under 1000'. It was a long time ago, so the numbers may be off a bit, but I remember the take-off was incredibly short.
On the XBOX 360 , there's a game called Tom Clancys HAWX. you can fly this F15. They call the F15 Active. It's a great fighter jets game with a bunch of great jet fighters to play with.
It’s in the older Ace Combat games too
Thank you 🙏 for an excellent succinct informative flawless video 👍🙏💪..I still remember reading about it back then that it actually was the first aircraft to land by just modifying thrust and no aerodynamic surface change.. that's incredible 💪👍
Thank you glad you enjoyed it and more videos on the way.
I've seen some comments relating to Ace Combat. For light flightsim gamers, Ace Combat really made the MTD/Active a legend. I really like maining it in the PS2 trilogy as it gave you kickass super maneuverability without defaulting to some Sukhoi or an F-22.
Indeed the AC series have made a lot of obscure aircraft known to may players. Thanks for commenting!
I don't mean to offend you but at least AC7 has nothing to do with simulators although the story is great. Don't know about previous installments..
@@peterkolesar4020 I, ah, I know... I understand that Ace Combat is not a sim.
I really enjoy learning about things that our military was doing real research and testing on things that are needed.
f15 in 1973...im gonna let that sink in a second
We had the f4 in Vietnam
Nice work on this presentation, great job on the research, images and footage - most of this was new information to me. And yes, more videos on NASA programs!
WOW it really is "Day of the Cheetah". I didn't know about the neural net research as well.
I just started reading the book series...looking forward to getting to Day of the Cheetah. thanks for commenting!
I read that book in high school! Loved it!
@@anthonyrobinson7715 Same here. Back in the 90s. The whole arc took a turn after the fall of the Soviet Union and the McClanahan (I think that's the name of the main character) narrative transitioned into speculative fiction where Communist hardliners took over instead of Yeltsin.
It makes for an interesting thought experiment. "What if the Soviet Union didn't dissolve in 1991?"
@@rayceeya8659 then most of these airplanes would be in production: ruclips.net/video/tNrw7iPXmJY/видео.html
Yes definitely. As series on test planes would be ace. Love the forward canards on this model + thrust vectoring nozzles. Very cool.
Thanks, will do!
Imagine if the tail number was 8492
Good video 👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
This F-15 was the inspiration for the book "Day of the Cheetah"
Another great video. This one was exceptional. I would like to see the bird of prey, X-36, the B-1, Senior Peg, and Boeing Model 853 to name a few.
Great suggestions and thanks for commenting!
Yes! its here!
That F15 looks real badass!
I kinda wish that they had just kept using this thing to keep testing new stuff. One can only imagine all the random parts and gadgets that would be sticking out of it 30 years from now.
Now I am envisioning the EF-14G Super Growler Tomcat
...and the VF-11 Thunderbolt is born.
Most clearly explaining of F-15 most rare secrets versions...thanks 👍🙏
You're very welcome!
Has anyone read the book by Dale Brown "Day of the Cheetah"? This book describes this aircraft in detail.
Did I mention that he first published it in 1989!! What great insight and research, - the functions and capabilities that Brown describes in the book took the passing of decades to become reality. (F35, F22, Euro Fighter etc).
I came in here to say this. Great book!
Loved that book
a series on NASA test planes? hell yes! thanks
Will do and thank you!
First saw this aircraft as the MTD Variant on Ace Combat Assault Horizon Legacy. It was an interesting jet. It was also the second American jet I saw with Conards as I usually see those on European jets
It’s an incredible jet and makes a few appearances in the AC series. Thanks for commenting!
I've never seen the F-15 with canards in CAMO! Great review!
Thank you much appreciated and yes that F-15 with the camo was flying in 1984 - way ahead of its time.
Am I the only one who wonders why the Aur Force didn't upgrade their Eagles with thrust vectoring capability?? They should have also expanded on the F-18 HARV and F-16 VISTA. These would be good contenders to the likes of the SU-30SM
I wondered the same thing. I know when I was crew chief on the F15e we took the cft's off to demo the jet and it kept push g limits. I don't know if this airframe could handle thrust vectoring.
They’re superior to the Su-30 without thrust vectoring, because they have better high-speed sustained turn rates, better energy maintenance, and much better radar and avionics. Thrust vectoring just isn’t really relevant in modern air combat. No US pilot is going to get into a turning fight at 250 mph. US doctrine since 1942 has been to avoid this at all costs.
Great episode! Please do a series on NASA research aircraft!
Will do and thank you!
Everyone:
Talking about 8492 squad.
Sorcerer:
...me? Anyone?
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The 8492nd is much more important
Abyssal Dision with his F-15 S/MTD Eagle+ would like to have a talk with you
@@Stellaris556 I totally forgot about Dision, oh well he's dead and the player is a simulation soo
Just be glad that you didn't have to work on it... I did, what a mess from a maintenance standpoint (especially the avionics). It was a badass aircraft though! I was reading day of the Cheetah not long after I worked on it.
Thanks for commenting and I can only imagine how hard it must have been to maintain, I am thrilled that someone such as yourself who worked on 837 took the time to watch the video and provide feedback. I do plan on reading Day of the Cheetah and have begun the series at the beginning with Flight of the Old Dog
@@PilotPhotog that whole series is excellent by the way. One thing that you missed was the rather serious IFE that occurred when the aircraft bounced on landing and then changed the nozzles when the weight off wheels switch was incorrectly interpreted at near ground level, resulting in the nose gear being slammed into the ground so hard that it bent significantly (and this wasn't standard F-15 landing gear - this was off-road rated stuff). They had to land on the lake bed, I remember the pilot telling the tower that he'd have full nose authority all the way down to 50 knots. When the nose gear finally hit the lakebed, it did a rather abrupt right turn before coming to a stop. It was a brilliant landing and saved the plane for another day (1992 or 1993 I think, although it could have been earlier - before NASA got it). I was an F-15 avionics tech at Edwards AFB from 1989-1994.
What an amazing story and thank you for sharing. I plan on a whole series about the NASA testbeds and when I revisit this airplane I’d like to include this incident and cite you for credit if that is ok.
@@PilotPhotog just cite me as "a maintainer" - I am still active duty in the military. 1989-1998 - USAF (EAFB).
@@mpeugeot copy and thanks again for the info!
So, where is it now? Hopefully in the Air Force Museum.
On display at NASA Armstrong Flight Research Center at EAFB
IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM!!!!
@@robertgarcia6569 but of course! :)
@ It's in the NASA museum at Edwards. Don't you read the replies?
So do you!
Excellent video about F-15 Eagle's....with clearly explaining of its characteristics and abilities