As jsi7iv mentioned, the error of descending prices of the plants instead of ascending would really slow the start of the game down and create an imbalanced scoring tradeoff on covering up the earlier plants with flower tiles.
Absolutely fair, and we did play it by the correct rules in our games of it. Sorry the overview is incorrect, we'll make a note in the shownotes about it.
@@DTChrisYi And your criticism of the resources being hard to see on the outer petals is valid. We are correcting it on future printings with the resources on the other side of each petal closer to the middle as well (basically both sides of the seedling stack). This will help with cross table visibility. I'm going to be looking into a sticker sheet to offer on our website for folks who want them for their original printing version boards.
You and me both. Zee played and liked it at the retreat last year. Plus, both of our tastes align on most games, and as I made this game for my taste in games, I knew it would have been a perfect fit for him too. I was disappointed to not see him on this review.
Other than both games having tiles, there is almost no mechanism overlap between the games. For the central donut display, there is a placing of a tile over the top of those tiles to "box the donuts" but how you meet the requirements for that and the resulting impact of covering those donuts is quite different than here.
Rules overview is wrong. Plants are placed in ascending order with lowest points on top. Here, you showed the highest points on top, so you had it opposite. This is coming from the rule book on bgg since I don't have my copy currently. This brings up my criticism that the rule book isn't always clear
Thanks for pointing this out. We did show them wrong here in the overview, however we played by the correct rules in our plays before the review. I'm pinning 25th Century Games reply to the top so people can see this!
@@terry3733H Agreed. I miss Tom's personal review. Don't care for much for the panel reviews. Nothing against the other folks personally, I just prefer Tom.
@@texascpa Boo, no! The more info the merrier. Other reviewers often bring up things Tom didn't think about. I've gotten to the point to where I only want to see Tom doing party games, kids games and the "so you don't have to" games. These panel reviews are the descendants of the old Miami Dice reviews, which were great. There just weren't enough of them. But we get way more of them!
Weirdly, "bau" means "building". So it's "garden building" which should mean a greenhouse, right? Unlike English, German words usually don't mean a dozen different things so this is weird. Which is why I looked it up as well. (It also means "burrow", but I assume that's because it's an animal "building".) I don't know of any other "area of knowledge" that uses "bau" either. "Agriculture" is "Landwirtschaft", and you see "wirtschaft" a lot - it means "business". The only word I could find that ends in " bau" that didn't mean some type of building is "Ackerbau", which means "cultivation of land". I punched that into the German-English and it came up "Agriculture" and I don't know what's happening anymore! I have never seen that word before today, yet I have seen "Landwirtschaft" MANY times! Thanks for kicking me down this rabbitbau, Chris!!
Gartenbau just means gardening! ;-) And it indeed derives from "Ackerbau". If you plant a plant of any sort it's called "anbauen". Strange that this caused so many headaches! :-D
As jsi7iv mentioned, the error of descending prices of the plants instead of ascending would really slow the start of the game down and create an imbalanced scoring tradeoff on covering up the earlier plants with flower tiles.
Absolutely fair, and we did play it by the correct rules in our games of it. Sorry the overview is incorrect, we'll make a note in the shownotes about it.
@@DTChrisYi And your criticism of the resources being hard to see on the outer petals is valid. We are correcting it on future printings with the resources on the other side of each petal closer to the middle as well (basically both sides of the seedling stack). This will help with cross table visibility. I'm going to be looking into a sticker sheet to offer on our website for folks who want them for their original printing version boards.
@@25thCenturyGames That sticker sheets sounds great
I'm surprised Zee wasn't in the review, isn't this the game Zee played with the Kirbys YEARS ago?
Yes they had a prototype at I want to say the DT retreat. Could have been either east or west, but believe it was the retreat.
You and me both. Zee played and liked it at the retreat last year. Plus, both of our tastes align on most games, and as I made this game for my taste in games, I knew it would have been a perfect fit for him too. I was disappointed to not see him on this review.
Tom: 20-13=6
Chris counting with fingers, nodding "yea that checks out" 😂
Chris actually counts on his fingers and mouths ‘seven’.
I really liked this game
Thanks, I do, too.
@@alexjohns229 :) great game made my top 10 of 2022
German here:
Gartenbau is gardening
Donut Shop that’s coming to Kickstarter this month (supposedly) seems to have a fair bit in common with this game minus the resource collection.
Other than both games having tiles, there is almost no mechanism overlap between the games. For the central donut display, there is a placing of a tile over the top of those tiles to "box the donuts" but how you meet the requirements for that and the resulting impact of covering those donuts is quite different than here.
i really like this game because of the complexity, 7.5
This game has some of the best art I’ve seen… didn’t end up buying it as I wasn’t sure it would be for us, but wow the art!
Rules overview is wrong. Plants are placed in ascending order with lowest points on top. Here, you showed the highest points on top, so you had it opposite. This is coming from the rule book on bgg since I don't have my copy currently. This brings up my criticism that the rule book isn't always clear
@@terry3733H To be fair with Atiwa, the comments seem to agree with their conclusions for the most part. The only majorly negative comment was yours.
Thanks for pointing this out. We did show them wrong here in the overview, however we played by the correct rules in our plays before the review. I'm pinning 25th Century Games reply to the top so people can see this!
@@terry3733H Agreed. I miss Tom's personal review. Don't care for much for the panel reviews. Nothing against the other folks personally, I just prefer Tom.
@@texascpa Boo, no! The more info the merrier. Other reviewers often bring up things Tom didn't think about. I've gotten to the point to where I only want to see Tom doing party games, kids games and the "so you don't have to" games. These panel reviews are the descendants of the old Miami Dice reviews, which were great. There just weren't enough of them. But we get way more of them!
"Good job Chris!"?
What a snarky comment! He was also right!
Weirdly, "bau" means "building". So it's "garden building" which should mean a greenhouse, right? Unlike English, German words usually don't mean a dozen different things so this is weird. Which is why I looked it up as well. (It also means "burrow", but I assume that's because it's an animal "building".)
I don't know of any other "area of knowledge" that uses "bau" either. "Agriculture" is "Landwirtschaft", and you see "wirtschaft" a lot - it means "business". The only word I could find that ends in " bau" that didn't mean some type of building is "Ackerbau", which means "cultivation of land". I punched that into the German-English and it came up "Agriculture" and I don't know what's happening anymore! I have never seen that word before today, yet I have seen "Landwirtschaft" MANY times! Thanks for kicking me down this rabbitbau, Chris!!
Gartenbau just means gardening! ;-)
And it indeed derives from "Ackerbau".
If you plant a plant of any sort it's called "anbauen".
Strange that this caused so many headaches! :-D
Building in this case is used in the verb format. So in this case garden building as in " to build a garden" ie gardening
We really enjoyed this game. Like the progression and it’s simple but not simplistic.
Buy flowers for _your mother._
Ugh!
Another card game?!!
Card game? Have I missed something? There are no cards. Or do you mean"tile laying game"?