lol... I knew you'd love that line. Snip Snip is a medical robot and his primary programming is to offer medical aid/heal patients. The stoners would have "hacked in" programming to have Snip Snip harvest organs, but the original medical programming was still there and took priority.
The generally accepted theory about why Snip-snip gave her a finger is he's originally a General Atomics Mr. Orderly (medical robot) so his original programming would be to help anyone with a medical issue and they added the organ harvesting programming on top of that.
I always thought since Snip Snip was a bit loopy anyway, the fact that she was described to be in "mint condition" and required evaluation, repairing the finger would be acceptable enough to consider her mint and harvestable lol.
Yes I agree. My best assessment is that Snip-Snip has been reprogrammed, badly. He must fulfil his original medical program to get someone patched up before his new programming to harvest their organs can kick in. There's one of those character-defining scenes in this episode where Lucy refuses to go against her morality and let the Ghoul turn feral or kill him when he's down. In about ten seconds you know something concrete about a character. It's like Brody agreeing with Mrs Kintner in Jaws that he's responsible for the death of her son, although plenty of audience members might disagree and every high-level influence in the town has been working to prevent him from doing just that. We know the Wasteland is going to have a tough time trying to change her morality in the same way we know Brody feels personally responsible for the safety of his town, even from non-human threats, and is going to go after Jaws.
Just a fun thing i noticed, earlier Wilzig said being on the surface would make her a different person and she might not like who she would become. Here the first person she kills she fires with a finger that wasnt hers.
I was so happy you recognised Matt Berry's voice! I actually think he could have hammed it up even more because those robots in the games have VERY dramatic voices. I wanted to hear Matt give the same exuberance as when Douglas said "God DAMN these electric sex pants!" I think the little vials that ghouls use are completely new to this show and aren't in the games. I may be wrong about that but there are lots of ghouls in the games who survive in very isolated conditions (like stuck in a fridge for centuries), so they wouldn't be able to get the vials. And you would think they would have run out after 200 years and there'd be no manufacturing them.
23:17 Copper's case isn't that rare. There are other ghouls in Fallout universe from over 200 years that haven't gone feral. The rate at which a ghoul goes feral is different for each ghoul. There are ghouls that could not even possibly have had access to medical supplies for 200 years and still haven't gone feral.
And the symptoms of going off whatever is in the vials don't seem like they are going feral. And Roger had a bunch of empty vails at his feet. I'm betting it's actually just cough syrup.
My daughter would've loved this reaction. When she told me her favorite character in the entire Fallout show was Snip-Snip I immediately was like "oh, Jess would love that". And yeah, "golden rule, motherfucker" is a pivotal turning point for Lucy's character. That's where you see a turn for her, maybe not completely to the dark side, but she's no longer the naive innocent Vaultie that we saw in the first two episodes. It's gonna be so much fun to see your reactions to these next four episodes.
I only just discovered you with your fallout reactions but you are mother. Your laughs and screams at all the shenanigans are truly warming and infectious 🌹
A lot of people who got exposed to the lethal dose of radiation (the day when the bombs fell 200 years ago AND after) didn't die but became ghouls. Most of the ghouls are feral from the start - they can't think, can't talk, they're like zombies and eat everything and everyone they see. They live for a very, very long time, don't age and are very hard to kill. But some of the ghouls are normal and don't lose their cognitive abilities (while still living for a long time). They may become feral later, or may not. Not all the ghouls use drugs to delay becoming feral, because not everyone becomes feral. It's unclear how and why it happens. The Ghoul in the show uses the drug called Jet. Jet is present in every fallout game and the player can use it to slow down time during the fight. It's not just for the ghouls, everyone uses it, especially raiders. There's lots of drugs in fallout, they all have different effects.
Jet first appeared in Fallout 2, being manufactured by one of the gangs of New Reno. The creator of it is actually a recruitable party member. It's only in Fallout 4 that it mechanically slows down time, in most games it boosts your action points. Either way the point is that it's a massive upper, essentially meth in aerosol form.
Ghouls can live for centuries, but their mutant "healing ability" isn't perfect, hence their skin gets messed up, but also their brains doesn't heal so good, thus over time most go crazy," feral", and become like hyperkinetic, extremely dangerous zombies. Radiation tends to increase their healing, but also increase risk of them going feral. The ruins often have packs of feral ghouls, they don't attack other ghouls, feral or not
The process is still not fully understood but I think the process of a ghoul turning feral is like the ghoul equivalent of dementia or Alzheimer’s. Radiation seems to play a role in accelerating it. Someone else in the comments says they’re using the drug Jet but Jet’s been around a long time and I think they would have figured out long ago if it could slow down or stop ghouls turning feral. Ghouls themselves have said Jet has so weak an effect on them they prefer their own concoction called Ultra Jet. There’s no mention of a drug like this (turning feral prevention ) in the games as far as I know including Fallout 4 which takes place only 9 years before the show. Some have theorised it could be a chem that came out of experiments with Rad-Away, a drug which removes radiation from the body, which does show up in the show a bit later.
Knowing some of the Fallout backstories from the game, ghouls were created in a vault where the door did not properly close. The vault area is mentioned in an episode. It was where ghouls originated and the vault/city became known as Necropolis.
@@corpusD Another Vault-Tec experimental vault, Vault 12. For this vault Vault-Tec wanted to study the effects of radiation in vault dwellers so the door was designed to fail to flood the vault with radiation from outside and what followed was ghoulification for the occupants (and I imagine a lot of death by radiation poisoning too, as was happening around much of the rest world thanks to the Great War). So not the origin of ghouls per se, that’s thanks to the ghoulification phenomenon that took place everywhere when the bombs dropped, but a place where Vault-Tec wanted to intentionally create ghouls for study purposes, yes.
@@YugSihtTsuj you are correct, they occur everywhere but I was also talking about how they were first created and as mentioned, the Ghoul of the show. He is from that vaults region, and mentions it later in the show.
There is a drug in the games called Jet which is consumed in a similar way to the drug the Ghoul takes in the show. The drug greatly increases the user’s senses to the point wear time appears to slow down. The drug effect’s the brain so it makes sense that it could treat a ghoul to not go feral (which was not mentioned in the games).
The joke about Snip-Snip fixing her finger first is that his robot logic says it can’t harvest organs from anything but a prime specimen. So if I fix your minor finger issue, you’re now a grade A prime specimen. 🤣
She was given a finger back so that she could be in perfect condition, though why this really matters is a mystery I guess the buyer just wanted a corpse with all its parts 🤷♂
Snip Snip was a medical robot, so his primary programming kicked in before his organ harvesting subroutine. It took a couple of viewings, but I saw has the medical symbol on his body . . .
@@rowenatulley852 Yep. Remember that in Fallout many robots have been hacked to do things different from their original purpose and programming. In Snip Snip's case, his primary programming was to heal, so he did that. Once that was taken care of, he could proceed with the new programming the stoners had added on: harvesting organs.
Poor Martha could no longer even remember if she was Superman's mom or Batman's mom...
lol... I knew you'd love that line.
Snip Snip is a medical robot and his primary programming is to offer medical aid/heal patients. The stoners would have "hacked in" programming to have Snip Snip harvest organs, but the original medical programming was still there and took priority.
The generally accepted theory about why Snip-snip gave her a finger is he's originally a General Atomics Mr. Orderly (medical robot) so his original programming would be to help anyone with a medical issue and they added the organ harvesting programming on top of that.
It’s more likely that snip snip was a Doctor Handy or Nurse Handy.
I always thought since Snip Snip was a bit loopy anyway, the fact that she was described to be in "mint condition" and required evaluation, repairing the finger would be acceptable enough to consider her mint and harvestable lol.
I mean I’m sure if there was trauma victim who didn’t survive but were donors they’d know how to harvest body parts and organs.
I mean it could just be functioning prewar.
Yes I agree. My best assessment is that Snip-Snip has been reprogrammed, badly. He must fulfil his original medical program to get someone patched up before his new programming to harvest their organs can kick in.
There's one of those character-defining scenes in this episode where Lucy refuses to go against her morality and let the Ghoul turn feral or kill him when he's down. In about ten seconds you know something concrete about a character. It's like Brody agreeing with Mrs Kintner in Jaws that he's responsible for the death of her son, although plenty of audience members might disagree and every high-level influence in the town has been working to prevent him from doing just that. We know the Wasteland is going to have a tough time trying to change her morality in the same way we know Brody feels personally responsible for the safety of his town, even from non-human threats, and is going to go after Jaws.
"His eyes are open, his eyebrows are raised... he's treading." 😂
Just a fun thing i noticed, earlier Wilzig said being on the surface would make her a different person and she might not like who she would become. Here the first person she kills she fires with a finger that wasnt hers.
I was so happy you recognised Matt Berry's voice! I actually think he could have hammed it up even more because those robots in the games have VERY dramatic voices. I wanted to hear Matt give the same exuberance as when Douglas said "God DAMN these electric sex pants!"
I think the little vials that ghouls use are completely new to this show and aren't in the games. I may be wrong about that but there are lots of ghouls in the games who survive in very isolated conditions (like stuck in a fridge for centuries), so they wouldn't be able to get the vials. And you would think they would have run out after 200 years and there'd be no manufacturing them.
23:17 Copper's case isn't that rare. There are other ghouls in Fallout universe from over 200 years that haven't gone feral. The rate at which a ghoul goes feral is different for each ghoul. There are ghouls that could not even possibly have had access to medical supplies for 200 years and still haven't gone feral.
Cooper has access to meds. In the first episode he has 2 IV bags running into his coffin.
And the symptoms of going off whatever is in the vials don't seem like they are going feral. And Roger had a bunch of empty vails at his feet. I'm betting it's actually just cough syrup.
@@j.f.fisher5318 I wouldn’t be surprised if cough syrup could keep a ghoul sane. Have you ever tried taking a bottle of pure DXM?
My daughter would've loved this reaction. When she told me her favorite character in the entire Fallout show was Snip-Snip I immediately was like "oh, Jess would love that". And yeah, "golden rule, motherfucker" is a pivotal turning point for Lucy's character. That's where you see a turn for her, maybe not completely to the dark side, but she's no longer the naive innocent Vaultie that we saw in the first two episodes. It's gonna be so much fun to see your reactions to these next four episodes.
His last thoughts were of ice cream and his mama's apple pie. That's about as compassionate as it gets in the Wasteland...
I only just discovered you with your fallout reactions but you are mother. Your laughs and screams at all the shenanigans are truly warming and infectious 🌹
@22:59 Martha. Her name is Martha! XD
Why did you say that name!!! 🦇
The Steph and Bert scene is one of my favorites. 😂 It's heartbreaking, but also has this deep undercurrent of dark humor.
Yellowjackets (Starring Lucy from Fallout) , Beef (Starring Glenn from TWD), Dark, Traveler's (Netflix Time Travel series)
A lot of people who got exposed to the lethal dose of radiation (the day when the bombs fell 200 years ago AND after) didn't die but became ghouls.
Most of the ghouls are feral from the start - they can't think, can't talk, they're like zombies and eat everything and everyone they see. They live for a very, very long time, don't age and are very hard to kill.
But some of the ghouls are normal and don't lose their cognitive abilities (while still living for a long time). They may become feral later, or may not. Not all the ghouls use drugs to delay becoming feral, because not everyone becomes feral. It's unclear how and why it happens.
The Ghoul in the show uses the drug called Jet. Jet is present in every fallout game and the player can use it to slow down time during the fight. It's not just for the ghouls, everyone uses it, especially raiders.
There's lots of drugs in fallout, they all have different effects.
Jet first appeared in Fallout 2, being manufactured by one of the gangs of New Reno. The creator of it is actually a recruitable party member. It's only in Fallout 4 that it mechanically slows down time, in most games it boosts your action points. Either way the point is that it's a massive upper, essentially meth in aerosol form.
This is the episode where it really comes alive
Loved your gold nails with your gold shirt. Really enjoy your reactions. Been enjoying your channel for quite some time.👍
Yeah that killing at the start was definitely a mercy killing. The ass jerky was just a convenience!
Basically, as long as you've just mercy killed someone, you shouldn't let all that ass meat go to waste. It's...well, it's disrespectful or something.
Yay! Another one who actually remembers Matt Berry from The IT Crowd!
Hehe . . . No, you're not rambling! In fact, you're very perceptive with your analysis . . .
You’d be surprised how much of this series is new lore. Fans of the game learned a lot about what it means to be a ghoul and about pre war society
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"Wow! a gun! I wonder if it's loaded!"
* Proceeds to pull trigger 6 times in his mouth. *
I like how you are into this series. And wait a little bit, you´re getting more clues and hints. 😀
Ghouls can live for centuries, but their mutant "healing ability" isn't perfect, hence their skin gets messed up, but also their brains doesn't heal so good, thus over time most go crazy," feral", and become like hyperkinetic, extremely dangerous zombies.
Radiation tends to increase their healing, but also increase risk of them going feral.
The ruins often have packs of feral ghouls, they don't attack other ghouls, feral or not
I love your nails - they're insane!
Bravery without wisdom is almost always disaster.
As expected, you got defensive of Snip-Snip. Always a pleasure, Jess, to see again your love of sassy droids.
Ha your reaction to matt berry desperately makes me want to see what you would think of what we do in the shadows
I'm amazed she's seen The IT Crowd
Would love to see a Garth Marenghi’s Darkplace reaction from her too. Matt Berry’s best work imo
The process is still not fully understood but I think the process of a ghoul turning feral is like the ghoul equivalent of dementia or Alzheimer’s. Radiation seems to play a role in accelerating it. Someone else in the comments says they’re using the drug Jet but Jet’s been around a long time and I think they would have figured out long ago if it could slow down or stop ghouls turning feral. Ghouls themselves have said Jet has so weak an effect on them they prefer their own concoction called Ultra Jet. There’s no mention of a drug like this (turning feral prevention ) in the games as far as I know including Fallout 4 which takes place only 9 years before the show. Some have theorised it could be a chem that came out of experiments with Rad-Away, a drug which removes radiation from the body, which does show up in the show a bit later.
Knowing some of the Fallout backstories from the game, ghouls were created in a vault where the door did not properly close. The vault area is mentioned in an episode. It was where ghouls originated and the vault/city became known as Necropolis.
@@corpusD Another Vault-Tec experimental vault, Vault 12. For this vault Vault-Tec wanted to study the effects of radiation in vault dwellers so the door was designed to fail to flood the vault with radiation from outside and what followed was ghoulification for the occupants (and I imagine a lot of death by radiation poisoning too, as was happening around much of the rest world thanks to the Great War). So not the origin of ghouls per se, that’s thanks to the ghoulification phenomenon that took place everywhere when the bombs dropped, but a place where Vault-Tec wanted to intentionally create ghouls for study purposes, yes.
@@corpusDUm, no, that vault was responsible for a lot of ghouls, but they turn up anywhere there was enough radiation.
@@YugSihtTsuj you are correct, they occur everywhere but I was also talking about how they were first created and as mentioned, the Ghoul of the show. He is from that vaults region, and mentions it later in the show.
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Snip-snip may have been harvesting organs but at least he was polite
Might be my favorite episode; Lucy and Cooper really seem to be a lightside/darkside dichotomy like Star Wars does with Tales of the Jedi/Empire.
There is a drug in the games called Jet which is consumed in a similar way to the drug the Ghoul takes in the show. The drug greatly increases the user’s senses to the point wear time appears to slow down. The drug effect’s the brain so it makes sense that it could treat a ghoul to not go feral (which was not mentioned in the games).
The joke about Snip-Snip fixing her finger first is that his robot logic says it can’t harvest organs from anything but a prime specimen. So if I fix your minor finger issue, you’re now a grade A prime specimen. 🤣
She was given a finger back so that she could be in perfect condition, though why this really matters is a mystery I guess the buyer just wanted a corpse with all its parts 🤷♂
Snip Snip was a medical robot, so his primary programming kicked in before his organ harvesting subroutine. It took a couple of viewings, but I saw has the medical symbol on his body . . .
@@rowenatulley852 Yep. Remember that in Fallout many robots have been hacked to do things different from their original purpose and programming. In Snip Snip's case, his primary programming was to heal, so he did that. Once that was taken care of, he could proceed with the new programming the stoners had added on: harvesting organs.