Not if they accept federal funding which 99% of hospitals do and she’s not A Hippa violation. Only the hospital/employee can be in violation of hippa, it’s their responsibility to keep info secure
@@the1digitalwizard federal funding doesn't take make them some kind of public or government entity. They are still private and are 100% allowed to set rules against photos or videos. It is part of how hospitals protect patient information, which is required by HIPAA. That being said, nothing this woman did was illegal or worthy of arrest. At most, the hospital would be within their right to have her given a criminal trespass warning via local PD for refusing to follow hospital policy.
I’m so done with these social media justice warriors. Just because I’m upset in a damn waiting room even as a pregnant woman I don’t want my info online. Lady just remove the video like wtf.
People are getting out of hands with social media. I have seen patients pulling out videos during minor surgeries or while nurses are collecting vitals. People are so entitled. There is a wait in the hospital. Its a holiday, all doctors office close so thebget overflow of emergencies and people coming in for colds and sore throats that's not Er appropriate.
It's been long waits since Covid. Now it's time everyone stop acting slow. The world knows we short on staff, help, essential workers, patience, and plain decent customer service. So complaining about a ER time is dumb. You should go with the intent of sitting for hours everybody short. Don't care where you go and don't care what service you getting.
You can’t record in the hospital. She should have been removed and kicked out of the hospital that’s it. If she failed to leave police should have been called for trespassing.
@@ChandlerGaming205I work as a hospital security officer and I can tell you right now the hospital I work at has a zero tolerance policy on recording inside the facility, We will automatically kick you out of the facility and criminal trespass anybody that's recording and press charges regardless if it's a sensitive area or not. The hospital can't take any chances of a HIPAA violation.
In an age where we are constantly inundated with social media, we need to establish clear rules on what is acceptable use in a healthcare setting. In this scenario, where there are other patients present but no obvious healthcare information being recorded, is it alright for the TikTok user in question to be arrested secondary to a HIPAA violation? I would argue that she is violating the privacy of the other patients present. People are in the office waiting for medical attention, and they have a legal right to receive care without the release of their protected health information (PHI). HIPAA is our hard and fast rule enforcing this right. PHI may include patient name, identifying information, contact information, medical records and test results, and demographics. By posting a video where other patients’ faces are clearly visible in the emergency room, this is a form of identifier that violates this rule and takes away those patient’s rights to privacy. We need to be mindful of what we are posting on social media, and while the response to detain her and have her arrested may seem extreme, it is reasonable to deter this behavior in the future and to protect others’ rights.
Non-covered entities, such as patients should not be expected to follow HIPAA or even understand HIPAA guidelines because they are untrained. Instead, they should use due diligence when deciding to upload videos online. If they fail to do so, it should be under the social media services discretion to remove the video if PII or PHI is identified
Of course, hospitals should and are legally allowed to ban recording in their facility to prevent patients disclosing another patient's information (most do), but patients should not be subject to the consequences of violating HIPAA. Hospitals are also able to kick someone out that's recording if they have that policy
If you have not signed a HIPPA agreement you cannot be held accountable. Sorry but HIPPA is only there to keep patient information fro.being disclosed. It includes healthcare workers, other hospital security and not individuals
While working in a county hospital ER, no one was recording people in the waiting room. It's private property, just like in a store, in Ca you need the party's consent to record them. Tiktok is the platform for every person to record everything, she could have recorded something on the computer screen, you can't do it.
You can record anything you can see with your eyes and no where is it illegal to record someone in public without their permission. You should read the constitution it’s amazing
No lady, I think you were the one who was dead wrong. Patients in the hospital don't want you video tapping them. I know I wouldn't. Next time, leave your camera in your purse. Those security offices were just doing their jobs.
@joey.99 hospitals generally are public property so as she has every right to film or photograph. As long as she's in a publicly accessible area and their policy has to be in line with what the United States Constitution states in the First Amendment. If its not then the policy doesn't have to be followed bc it's unlawful
@@american_duelistguys4088 SHe does have a right to record and the hospital (almost but not all) being private property has the right to ask her to leave. At that point its not her video thats violating the law its simply her presence on their property and its called trespassing.
She was filming the Patient Dr. Interaction. Same reason you are asked to stand back 6 Ft when in a Pharmacy line, when being consulted about your meds.. SMH
They did MUCH more than that! They erroneously indicated she violated HIPPA laws, falsely detained and kidnapped her, refused her treatment, etc. This entire situation was wrong and they should ALL be sued, charged, and fired.
actually they did not kidnap her. Kidnapping requires the element of removing a person from a location against their will. They did not have grounds to hold her but refused to let her leave freely so it would fall under false imprisonment since she was not allowed to leave but was not removed from the property.
Yea it is against hippa you can’t film in a hospital because other people’s medical information is supposed to be private even just having them in that background violates it
Interesting. The security team was in the wrong. It is not a HIPPA violation for someone to record in a hospital. So you cannot be arrested for recording.
Man se did that to herself, you are on private property recording, and when you are, I’m pretty sure you have to get people’s permission, now had she been on public property different story, if she were to sue me, I would in turns sue her back, but she perpetrator that initiated all of this on herself and she deserves no pitty or money
If I was in that room I would’ve thrown you out my damn self. You may not have violated HIPPA, but you definitely violated the privacy of others. Above all, it is highly disrespectful, particularly to that Muslim woman who is covered. You’re in Dearborn for God's sake. Where are your morals!? And speaking as someone who personally endured domestic abuse for many years, I wouldn't want to be on someone's stupid social media video when I'm trying to protect myself because my safety is in jeopardy. Hospitals are supposed to be the safest place to seek help and protection (which I once had to do). It's an ER ( Emergency Room) - people are sick or have an emergency!! You’re an adult. Start acting like one and ditch the TikTok BS
They are a trip, their worry about a video… The reason why I say that it’s because my grandson has Cancer and that is the hospital that’s taking care of him and one of the staff that see after him stolen his iPods as he has fallen asleep and they won’t look into it SMH… they try to play him stupid and he’s 17 years old the attendance nurse on afternoon /nite said she saw him sleep with them in his ear but dayshift said they can’t find out Where they are &his phone indicated that they were in the building🙌❤️
She was filming the Patient Dr. Interaction. Same reason you are asked to stand back 6 Ft when in a Pharmacy line, when being consulted about your meds.. SMH
The activity is constitutionally protected but whoever 2 things happened 1 she recorded the nurse doctor and pregnant women if that video show up on a stream one out of the three can go after her civilly and secondly the security officers should've advised her that this is private property and this type of activity is not allowed while she in any of thier buildings. And i knew Dearborn pd wasnt going to touch it.
This hospital needs further education on HIPPA. Any information about a patient cannot be disclosed by the hospital staff. Hell, they have security cameras in every hallway. This hospital cannot press charges on a private citizen for uploading a video made in a waiting room. Now as a courtesy i would ask permission from the people filmed and blurr identifying information but you dont have to. Jesus people are thick
This is what happens when ignorant* people hold positions of authority and abuse it. *you can be educated, and ignorant at the same time, which results in foolishness
@@sportscarman5 Actually the county sheriff in my area has told me it is legal to record YOUR visit to the hospital. It is NOT illegal for you to record YOUR OWN INFORMATION. Actually the sheriff told me he encourages recording because they get so many complaints from patients that have to go to the hospital around her about mistreatment from staff. AND the hospitals THEMSELVES record with security cameras and they do have audio, so they themselves violate HIPAA
@@nsgamingallen1308 Actually you are wrong, they cannot stop us from recording OUR OWN PERSONAL MEDICAL INFORMATION and that includes doctor visits or ER visits. The reason they dont like it is they have no control over the recording Its exactly why the cops dont like you recording them, its because they have no control over the recording However in this case, she POSTED the recording on TikTok which IS illegal but simply recording while you are there for a LEGITIMATE MEDICAL REASON such as for treatment or a doctor visit, they cannot stop you.
I work in an urban trauma center. People like this are just looking for confrontation and looking to sue an institution. They deserve being booted out and given a specific restraining order on ever re-entering that facility. Don't ever feel sorry for these people.
Its a private facility not public you follow their rules
Not if they accept federal funding which 99% of hospitals do and she’s not A Hippa violation. Only the hospital/employee can be in violation of hippa, it’s their responsibility to keep info secure
@@the1digitalwizard federal funding doesn't take make them some kind of public or government entity. They are still private and are 100% allowed to set rules against photos or videos. It is part of how hospitals protect patient information, which is required by HIPAA. That being said, nothing this woman did was illegal or worthy of arrest. At most, the hospital would be within their right to have her given a criminal trespass warning via local PD for refusing to follow hospital policy.
I’m so done with these social media justice warriors. Just because I’m upset in a damn waiting room even as a pregnant woman I don’t want my info online. Lady just remove the video like wtf.
I'm sorry but if I'm ill enough to go to the hospital, the last thing I want to be is on someone's stupid TikTok video.
TRUTH.
People are getting out of hands with social media. I have seen patients pulling out videos during minor surgeries or while nurses are collecting vitals. People are so entitled. There is a wait in the hospital. Its a holiday, all doctors office close so thebget overflow of emergencies and people coming in for colds and sore throats that's not Er appropriate.
People think they're so cool and hip and trendy by posting things just to get views, especially criminal acts, they're worthless.
It's been long waits since Covid. Now it's time everyone stop acting slow. The world knows we short on staff, help, essential workers, patience, and plain decent customer service. So complaining about a ER time is dumb. You should go with the intent of sitting for hours everybody short. Don't care where you go and don't care what service you getting.
What did she expect? Who wants to be recorded at a hospital? She wasn't arrested and she still has the video. She wants a check.
You can’t record in the hospital. She should have been removed and kicked out of the hospital that’s it. If she failed to leave police should have been called for trespassing.
Actually you can, you just cant record in sensitive areas, but how this lady went about it was wrong
@@ChandlerGaming205I work as a hospital security officer and I can tell you right now the hospital I work at has a zero tolerance policy on recording inside the facility, We will automatically kick you out of the facility and criminal trespass anybody that's recording and press charges regardless if it's a sensitive area or not. The hospital can't take any chances of a HIPAA violation.
In an age where we are constantly inundated with social media, we need to establish clear rules on what is acceptable use in a healthcare setting. In this scenario, where there are other patients present but no obvious healthcare information being recorded, is it alright for the TikTok user in question to be arrested secondary to a HIPAA violation? I would argue that she is violating the privacy of the other patients present. People are in the office waiting for medical attention, and they have a legal right to receive care without the release of their protected health information (PHI). HIPAA is our hard and fast rule enforcing this right. PHI may include patient name, identifying information, contact information, medical records and test results, and demographics. By posting a video where other patients’ faces are clearly visible in the emergency room, this is a form of identifier that violates this rule and takes away those patient’s rights to privacy. We need to be mindful of what we are posting on social media, and while the response to detain her and have her arrested may seem extreme, it is reasonable to deter this behavior in the future and to protect others’ rights.
HIPAA only applies to the healthcare industry, not patients.
Non-covered entities, such as patients should not be expected to follow HIPAA or even understand HIPAA guidelines because they are untrained. Instead, they should use due diligence when deciding to upload videos online. If they fail to do so, it should be under the social media services discretion to remove the video if PII or PHI is identified
Of course, hospitals should and are legally allowed to ban recording in their facility to prevent patients disclosing another patient's information (most do), but patients should not be subject to the consequences of violating HIPAA. Hospitals are also able to kick someone out that's recording if they have that policy
If you have not signed a HIPPA agreement you cannot be held accountable. Sorry but HIPPA is only there to keep patient information fro.being disclosed. It includes healthcare workers, other hospital security and not individuals
While working in a county hospital ER, no one was recording people in the waiting room. It's private property, just like in a store, in Ca you need the party's consent to record them. Tiktok is the platform for every person to record everything, she could have recorded something on the computer screen, you can't do it.
Wrong key word is COUNTY
You can record anything you can see with your eyes and no where is it illegal to record someone in public without their permission. You should read the constitution it’s amazing
Lol 5 hour wait in the ER? Canadians would kill for that.
Depends on the ER. 5-hour wait time is for the inner-city ER. The last hospital I visited don't have a wait time.
Oh it's her. I felt bad until they said who she was. Oh well sucks for her 😂
This is the second time this lady has been on the news😭 she loves attention
My God get over yourself. There are rules and regulations for a reason. Just shut up get in and out
No lady, I think you were the one who was dead wrong. Patients in the hospital don't want you video tapping them. I know I wouldn't. Next time, leave your camera in your purse. Those security offices were just doing their jobs.
Thank goodness security confronted this lunatic. Patients deserve privacy when they seek care.
Exactly, I couldn't agree with you more
She didn't violate HIPAA or any law, but the hospital can still kick her out for violating the recording policy
@@joey.99 This!! ^
@joey.99 hospitals generally are public property so as she has every right to film or photograph. As long as she's in a publicly accessible area and their policy has to be in line with what the United States Constitution states in the First Amendment. If its not then the policy doesn't have to be followed bc it's unlawful
@@american_duelistguys4088 SHe does have a right to record and the hospital (almost but not all) being private property has the right to ask her to leave. At that point its not her video thats violating the law its simply her presence on their property and its called trespassing.
Doctors have horrific egos.
She was filming the Patient Dr. Interaction. Same reason you are asked to stand back 6 Ft when in a Pharmacy line, when being consulted about your meds.. SMH
@@therealpj1556 The specific rule cited does not apply to other patients. And the doc came out to berate a patient for complaining
NOTHING TO DO WITH STAFF. SHE IS THE IDIOT.
She's clearly the problem in this.
She should of just used common sense.
They got a complaint because my mom' sat in their room for 5 hours. 😠 😡
HIPAA is the hospitals responsibility, it has nothing to do with the patients or loved ones.
She can sue them for everything there worth i work as security and theres nothing we can do but let them record
Wow, they kidnapped her by holding that door shut.
They did MUCH more than that! They erroneously indicated she violated HIPPA laws, falsely detained and kidnapped her, refused her treatment, etc. This entire situation was wrong and they should ALL be sued, charged, and fired.
@@skaterlover1999 you cannot record a video in a hospital in Michigan
@@sportscarman5 do pray tell, what law is this?
actually they did not kidnap her. Kidnapping requires the element of removing a person from a location against their will. They did not have grounds to hold her but refused to let her leave freely so it would fall under false imprisonment since she was not allowed to leave but was not removed from the property.
Yea it is against hippa you can’t film in a hospital because other people’s medical information is supposed to be private even just having them in that background violates it
Good on the security!! We see these type of "victims" daily in the ER
Interesting. The security team was in the wrong. It is not a HIPPA violation for someone to record in a hospital. So you cannot be arrested for recording.
Get trespassed and possibly sued for a TikTok, real smart Karen.
The hospital was violating HIPAA laws by examining the pregnant woman in front of everybody else😊😂😂
Yep, they have every right to kick her out because of it, but they should have not mentioned HIPAA. Patients do not have to comply with it
Man se did that to herself, you are on private property recording, and when you are, I’m pretty sure you have to get people’s permission, now had she been on public property different story, if she were to sue me, I would in turns sue her back, but she perpetrator that initiated all of this on herself and she deserves no pitty or money
If I was in that room I would’ve thrown you out my damn self. You may not have violated HIPPA, but you definitely violated the privacy of others. Above all, it is highly disrespectful, particularly to that Muslim woman who is covered. You’re in Dearborn for God's sake. Where are your morals!? And speaking as someone who personally endured domestic abuse for many years, I wouldn't want to be on someone's stupid social media video when I'm trying to protect myself because my safety is in jeopardy. Hospitals are supposed to be the safest place to seek help and protection (which I once had to do). It's an ER ( Emergency Room) - people are sick or have an emergency!! You’re an adult. Start acting like one and ditch the TikTok BS
I couldn't agree with you more She was being disrespectful to the other patients. How about a little privacy.
Why would she put it on tik tok other sick people don’t wanna be on video
They are a trip, their worry about a video… The reason why I say that it’s because my grandson has Cancer and that is the hospital that’s taking care of him and one of the staff that see after him stolen his iPods as he has fallen asleep and they won’t look into it SMH… they try to play him stupid and he’s 17 years old the attendance nurse on afternoon /nite said she saw him sleep with them in his ear but dayshift said they can’t find out Where they are &his phone indicated that they were in the building🙌❤️
She was filming the Patient Dr. Interaction. Same reason you are asked to stand back 6 Ft when in a Pharmacy line, when being consulted about your meds.. SMH
That be them under paid cleaning staff or CNAs....ain't no doctors or nurses stealing petty stuff they can afford to buy.
@@therealpj1556 but she didn’t violate HIPAA
Anything for views
she didnt go t dr school tho
They don't want you to use phones period in the hospital. Due to heart patiens.
The activity is constitutionally protected but whoever 2 things happened 1 she recorded the nurse doctor and pregnant women if that video show up on a stream one out of the three can go after her civilly and secondly the security officers should've advised her that this is private property and this type of activity is not allowed while she in any of thier buildings. And i knew Dearborn pd wasnt going to touch it.
RIP Tiffany Dover
Haha that’s watt she gets was feeling bad for her till I seen the name
Teach your workers this! They should have been educated before this encounter. Every person holds a video camera in their pocket. Get used to it.
Lawsuit is totally in order, Kidnapping is against the law.
Yeah, no she was being detained. She is a worthless part of the humanity we as caregivers must endure.
Lawyers are chasing her to get that money lol. She's going to be rich.
This hospital needs further education on HIPPA. Any information about a patient cannot be disclosed by the hospital staff. Hell, they have security cameras in every hallway. This hospital cannot press charges on a private citizen for uploading a video made in a waiting room. Now as a courtesy i would ask permission from the people filmed and blurr identifying information but you dont have to. Jesus people are thick
This is what happens when ignorant* people hold positions of authority and abuse it.
*you can be educated, and ignorant at the same time, which results in foolishness
I am entirely on Denise’s side. Denise has a right to record, what the hospital and police did was wrong.
You cannot record video in hospital
@@sportscarman5 Actually the county sheriff in my area has told me it is legal to record YOUR visit to the hospital. It is NOT illegal for you to record YOUR OWN INFORMATION. Actually the sheriff told me he encourages recording because they get so many complaints from patients that have to go to the hospital around her about mistreatment from staff. AND the hospitals THEMSELVES record with security cameras and they do have audio, so they themselves violate HIPAA
It doesn't even matter if it's legal or not. If the Hospital, which is private property does not want you to record, you can't. Simple as.
@@nsgamingallen1308 Actually you are wrong, they cannot stop us from recording OUR OWN PERSONAL MEDICAL INFORMATION and that includes doctor visits or ER visits. The reason they dont like it is they have no control over the recording
Its exactly why the cops dont like you recording them, its because they have no control over the recording
However in this case, she POSTED the recording on TikTok which IS illegal but simply recording while you are there for a LEGITIMATE MEDICAL REASON such as for treatment or a doctor visit, they cannot stop you.
@Chandler Gaming Actually to my knowledge they don't have audio recording. They also don't record in sensitive areas bound by law.
Just a thought if you're gonna sue the police and whoever go for a jury trial do not settle for any out of court settlements from any of them
I work in an urban trauma center. People like this are just looking for confrontation and looking to sue an institution. They deserve being booted out and given a specific restraining order on ever re-entering that facility. Don't ever feel sorry for these people.
What about all the hospital staff, nurses and doctors making dancing videos inside the hospital for tiktok??!! This is Insane!!
Cha Ching I hear a bag of money coming your way :) You were kidnapped and falsely imprisoned... too many civil rights violations list here!!!