That’s horrible. It looks like he was moving pretty good. 212mph possibly. We saw Darrel Gwynn go over right in front of us at BIR. I’m not sure how fast he was going but I do know it’s a miracle if they make it.
@@chuckeecheese162 Thanks! 👍 Dang, that's the car that I drive as a daily. I've been considering making it faster with the hp top end parts and other things. So I'm assuming the driver didn't walk away then?
Nothin wrong being safe while doing dumb things 😁 In fact ,safety is kinda cool. Climbing thru a jungle gym and nets to enter your car is pretty cool to most onlookers 😂
I worked pumping peoples gas at a Texico station in the Bronx as a teenager in the early 80's. We had a box of old gas caps that have been left at the station over the years. People would come in missing a gas cap and we would let them pick through the box. This was right around the time cars went from vented caps to unvented caps and the evap canisters. People would pick the wrong cap and put a nonvented on a vented cap tank and no time... it would suck the gas tank pancake flat!
I pumped gas at a Texico in Chicago in the early eighties also, No self service, just semi or full so any forgotten gas caps was our fault. fixing flats, checking oil,filling tires, I always hated how it would be dead for ten minutes then out of nowhere 4 cars would pull in and half would want full service.
You Absolutely Nailed it Rock Solid at the End Man! Even if you are doing everything right, and having the best day ever out there, the guy in the other lane just might be the one that's having the worst day ever. You have to make these things as safe as possible for not only you, but the other guy as well. Good stuff as always UTG!
DIYers, please, please, PLEASE listen to this man. He has the knowledge and experience to save your life sometimes in spite of yourself. When buying safety equipment, ask yourself if it's more expensive than your life. Uncle Tony, I know how you feel about Atcos closing. I was there when Lions in Gardena, Ca.closed, not a happy feeling. Thanks for putting out some important info and advice.
Good point on how urgent fuel safety can be. Somebody needs to make a video about how important a fire extinguisher is.... Or better still maybe install a central fire extinguisher for the engine and fuel area's
After all of these years I have to admit this is something that I never payed much attention to but you know ending up on your roof just doesn’t apply to the track but also the street and anything can happen.
I’m restoring a 76 f250 highboy and it’s had the in cab tank removed and two saddle tanks installed. I think I like the idea of those even less than leaning my back against a cab tank. It’s challenging to fit a tank between the rear rails as they are narrow. But it’s been done and that’s what I’m going to do too. Great info on vent like routing Tony. Much appreciated.
Great video! I was just a few weeks ago thinking about adding a rollover valve to my car but it got pushed out of my mind for whatever reason. I just ordered one after I watched this. Sometimes like you said you have to worry about the other guy im the other lane and not you. I have seen regular racer that are "buddies with the tech guy running front runners down to the cords! Them tech guys ( not all of them mind you) are not doing racers any favors. Thanks for a great video
In the early 2000s I was friends with a guy who was running a blown nostalgia front engine dragster.......I was in the pits and they were chasing a small oil leak that was running down the frame and dripping down on the ground near the rear tires....My Dad found the leak but myfriend and the small volunteer crew were so amped up about going rounds they tried to clean it up fast and send it anyway. He totally ignored the fact it was leaking and needed a new AN fitting that could not be found at the track....by dumb luck he forgot his drivers gloves at the starting line and could not run the round....it blew oil out of the fitting headding back down the pit road and coated the left rear tire in oil......sometimes its the "loose nut behind the wheel" thats the most dangerous part of the car.
Dammit man ,that reminds me of something I keep forgetting to buy. A fire extinguisher! 12-14k in this project car ,would be sad to see something happen because I didn't have a 30$ fire extinguisher.
Traded Ford trucks with a guy. Had the front high pressure pump replaced a week before at an auto shop. A week after we traded the fuel line popped off and burned the truck to the ground. Be very careful when using Ford plastic clips that hold the fuel lines on. They can crack or break off one side and become unsafe.
It would also be good to have the vent line headed towards the opposite side of the car that the fuel cell vent is on in case you end up on your side. On your setup down like you have it then turn to the driver's side past the point of the cell
I was incredibly anal about my fuel system. I used a rollover valve on the vent line and plugged off what I didn't need using AN fittings. I showed this to my friend who would tech cars at drift events and he mentioned he never even considered looking for a rollover valve on people's cars. I had to pause for a moment to process that information.
I have had 5 race cars in my life, none of them went faster than low twelves. I raced for fun. I'm not rich, and could not afford to chase speed. I quit 2 years ago, due to physical disabilities. None of my cars had a roll bar or roll cage. Those aren't required unless your car gets into the tens. Not a bad idea in any race car, if you can afford it. I had my vent hose routed pretty much the same way as you do, except that I did not have it secured to anything. Fortunately in 40+ years of racing, I never crashed on the track. I did have a few breakdowns, but nothing dangerous. While I like the way you did your vent hose, there is one thing I immediately thought of. Please make sure the open end of that vent hose doesn't end right behind the end of the exhaust. I know that sounds crazy, but the hose exits under the car, and the exhaust also usually exits under the car. It might be a one in a million thing, but I can just see somebody putting the end of that vent hose a couple inches from the end of the exhaust.
Looking at the way you have yours set up, if you were to run the end of the vent tube diagonally to the other end of the fuel cell, that would be the optimal place for your set up. It could be in any position and not drain.
I was at US 13 Dragway in Del-Mar DE years ago and a Camaro broke an axle and the wheel ,axle, drum assy came out, flying and bouncing out, and hit the car beside him. then both cars went out of control and crashed. It was a bad scene, thankfully everyone was OK. It's not always your car that has a failure! The Marine industry uses a nifty double check valve for fuel tank vents on boats. It maintains a specified pressure or slight vacuum in the tank. works great, vapors don't leak out freely. it's kind of like a 2 way roll over valve. liquid on either side of it will close it. Any way, for what it's worth, that's what i used.
One thing I have started doing Every Time on old cars is an in-line electric pump with a relay and inertia switch. I leave the stock mech pump and the cheep pump has a switch. It helps a lot with the no start issues that come with modern ethanol fuel
Racing is a dangerous game things can go wrong especially when people get comfortable and things become routine , people take things for granted and don't think about the little details in this incident was probably one of those incidence unfortunately.
Excellent question. I witnessed a roll over and ran over to help the driver/passengers. Even though upside down, the vehicle engine (and spinning rear wheels) ran a very long time.
@woodendoorgarage Thanks for the info. I worked on the fuel rank on my 5.7L '94 Caprice. I was trying to siphon gas out of the tank and discovered it had the ball check valve.
The worst wreck I ever saw, was Richard Pettys 1988 Daytona 500 wreck. To this day, anytime I hear the words, "race", and "wreck" , THAT one comes to the front of my mind.
In aviation we would say there are two kinds of pilots: those that have landed gear up and those who will. Bad things happen no matter what one does to present failure. All one can do, is keep minimizing the chance of failure, and plan for when a failure occurs. It sounds like it was a bad incident. Fingers crossed for the driver and the family.
This is one of the reasons why I bought a 178.99 RCI 16 gallon fuel cell with built in 0-90 ohms sending unit . it comes from the factory with check ball safety valve for the vent line incase vehicle tips/ flips over .
So im listing to the vent system on fuel tanks, what came to mind is a ball ck valve where vapor can escape but, liquid cant flow past the ball. Picture a wet dry vacume You can suck up water untill fulids raise the ball and shut off the suction from the motor, let the water out the vacume can pick up water the ball floats on water or liquids shutting off the flow air can pass fuel cant. Thats the vent system you should be using the vent system also sends the vapor to the motor and its sucked up by the carbrator assuming its not a computer controled fuel injected system.
Another thing no one seems to consider is what happens with an electric fuel pump in a crash. The OEMs use some sort of safety switch. Guy putting an aftermarket electronic pump on an old whatever? He's gotta hope he has the ability to switch off the key immediately after the unexpected crash.
There seems to be an epidemic of normal commuter car roll overs here in Australia lately, or maybe I'm just seeing them more because of dash cams and news reports.
Spikes setting up shop in the capillaries causing people to make bad decisions. Im seeing it more and more on the road and elsewhere. People are loosing their minds.
when a race car gets sideways (90 degrees) and the slicks grab the track there is a good chance your going over. A roll over check valve on the vent line is a must. Its cheap insurance.
Uncle T, i agree 100%, but i have a ?, could/would it be just a lil better to have a lil bit bigger hole in the floor with a rubber grommet in it, keep the line loose but give it a lil more protection from being cut by the unknown distortion of the structure of the surrounding metal? I think thats the way i would set it up, actually thats exactly what i do, lol
another good idea is to make sure there are holes in the floor pan so any spilled fuel can run out of the car. that way if fuel is spilled while adding fuel wont keep fumes into the car for a long time.
The lack of knowledge for things like fuel tank vents is probably because most people brush it off as just emissions BS, since emissions standards lead to very complicated vent systems so you'd think vents = for emissions.
NHRA safety regulations are written in blood. Really nice video, please keep these coming. Could you add thoughts about an evap system? The evap on my car is necessary for emissions and I know its actually higher than the fuel tank. "Sincerely hope its something you never have to use" - and that is the unfortunate part on all this. How do you know your roll bar or roll cage will actually work? Did you weld it correctly or does the weld only look cosmetically good? etc. etc. One safety aspect the road racers like - no anti-freeze in the coolant. Pure water (with maybe a water wetter) just to keep the anti-freeze off the track. Can't remember the last time the track actually checked the puke tank....
Hey Uncle Tony, I think the amount of vapor per each liquid gallon of gas in a rollover or bad leak situation is the biggest factor here. From what I can find 1 liquid gallon vaporizes into 160 vapor gallon or 21.4 cubic feet of vapor. The liquid isn't the problem, vapor is in safety.. Am I correct here?
Speaking on making sure things are properly vented, any time a lead acid battery is mounted in the passenger area it needs to be well vented. Even small amounts of hydrogen can ruin your day if ignited.
On a public Street I seen the police chase a car the car lost control hit a suv in the back wheel and rolled the suv over a gard rail down the hill . It was crazy . I would have never thought a still vehicle would just roll over like that
How do OEM vent setups work? They usually have the vent at the filler neck, but they don’t leak when you flip, do they work similar to a petrol pumps cutoff valve but in reverse?
Another big one I see a lot is someone installing an electric fuel pump and no inertia or oil pressure cutoff. Can turn a fender bender into a rollover sized incident
Got me thinking…never thought about this issue. It looks like a passenger side roll could leave you with a leak. Should the set up you are running have a section of tubing under the floor running to the drivers side of the car?
Yo UT ..question.. So my 67 Impala has exposed vent tubes from the factory.. Would that factory fuel sending unit have a roll over valve as part of the design or am I concerned for nothing because it’s just a crusier ?
thankyou im working on a 54 anglia thames gasser fuel pump was mounted a holley blue electric pump above the tank and sideways, i just got it below the tank upright and thought i had a return line ,nope done see one im running 7 pounds burnt 2 pumps the motor but now i notice no return line and the vent line,im checking for a check valve in the vent line,withouut a return line and the pump runs all the time,is that the couse of burning pump motors or being sideways, isnt this deadheading should i crank the presure up probable run a return line would be smart,,geeze the things you find if you didnt build it all street legal car 302 chevy dart block ran mid 12s with a holley quickfuel mech 750 dam i can always run a rubber line i gues maybey not do it right
That’s horrible. It looks like he was moving pretty good. 212mph possibly. We saw Darrel Gwynn go over right in front of us at BIR. I’m not sure how fast he was going but I do know it’s a miracle if they make it.
The incident that prompted this video was actually a door slammer, and the accident happened in Morroco, Indiana this past weekend.
@@UncleTonysGarage Oh ok I saw the other one. That didn’t end well either.
Anyone have a link?
@@lilmike2710 there is local news reports. No name. 45 year old driving a 96 mustang on a solo run
@@chuckeecheese162 Thanks! 👍 Dang, that's the car that I drive as a daily. I've been considering making it faster with the hp top end parts and other things.
So I'm assuming the driver didn't walk away then?
Safety content is always important content. Specialy for us, who want to go drag racing and dont know all these important Safety techs.
Nothin wrong being safe while doing dumb things 😁
In fact ,safety is kinda cool.
Climbing thru a jungle gym and nets to enter your car is pretty cool to most onlookers 😂
So True so many videos about fuel tanks and fuel cells but I have never heard anyone talk about a Roll over valve or how to properly vent.
I worked pumping peoples gas at a Texico station in the Bronx as a teenager in the early 80's. We had a box of old gas caps that have been left at the station over the years. People would come in missing a gas cap and we would let them pick through the box. This was right around the time cars went from vented caps to unvented caps and the evap canisters. People would pick the wrong cap and put a nonvented on a vented cap tank and no time... it would suck the gas tank pancake flat!
I pumped gas at a Texico in Chicago in the early eighties also, No self service, just semi or full so any forgotten gas caps was our fault. fixing flats, checking oil,filling tires, I always hated how it would be dead for ten minutes then out of nowhere 4 cars would pull in and half would want full service.
You Absolutely Nailed it Rock Solid at the End Man! Even if you are doing everything right, and having the best day ever out there, the guy in the other lane just might be the one that's having the worst day ever. You have to make these things as safe as possible for not only you, but the other guy as well. Good stuff as always UTG!
DIYers, please, please, PLEASE listen to this man. He has the knowledge and experience to save your life sometimes in spite of yourself. When buying safety equipment, ask yourself if it's more expensive than your life.
Uncle Tony, I know how you feel about Atcos closing. I was there when Lions in Gardena, Ca.closed, not a happy feeling. Thanks for putting out some important info and advice.
I tend to only watch programs where I learn something, that's why I enjoy your channel.
Much needed talk.
Stay safe.
Good point on how urgent fuel safety can be. Somebody needs to make a video about how important a fire extinguisher is.... Or better still maybe install a central fire extinguisher for the engine and fuel area's
After all of these years I have to admit this is something that I never payed much attention to but you know ending up on your roof just doesn’t apply to the track but also the street and anything can happen.
Thanks Tony !
Things like this a person can forget about talking care of especially when it’s too late.
Stuff you don't half ass are brakes,fuel,and seat belts.Unfortunately,that is where people seem to half ass the most.
I think I was there that night with the Maveric..A light sea foam green one if I recall
Thanks uncle tony.
I’m restoring a 76 f250 highboy and it’s had the in cab tank removed and two saddle tanks installed. I think I like the idea of those even less than leaning my back against a cab tank. It’s challenging to fit a tank between the rear rails as they are narrow. But it’s been done and that’s what I’m going to do too. Great info on vent like routing Tony. Much appreciated.
Great video! I was just a few weeks ago thinking about adding a rollover valve to my car but it got pushed out of my mind for whatever reason. I just ordered one after I watched this. Sometimes like you said you have to worry about the other guy im the other lane and not you. I have seen regular racer that are "buddies with the tech guy running front runners down to the cords! Them tech guys ( not all of them mind you) are not doing racers any favors. Thanks for a great video
Thanks Uncle Tony, great advice to keep us safe. 👍👍🇨🇦
Appreciate the video Tony, it's something that not many people ever think about.Its better to be safe than sorry..
I noticed your Seabees banner. I am a Seabee Vietnam vet, MCB 62 Delta Company Dong Ha, Vietnam 1969.
In the early 2000s I was friends with a guy who was running a blown nostalgia front engine dragster.......I was in the pits and they were chasing a small oil leak that was running down the frame and dripping down on the ground near the rear tires....My Dad found the leak but myfriend and the small volunteer crew were so amped up about going rounds they tried to clean it up fast and send it anyway. He totally ignored the fact it was leaking and needed a new AN fitting that could not be found at the track....by dumb luck he forgot his drivers gloves at the starting line and could not run the round....it blew oil out of the fitting headding back down the pit road and coated the left rear tire in oil......sometimes its the "loose nut behind the wheel" thats the most dangerous part of the car.
Uncle Tony I run a ground to the top of the fill ring, I believe to prevent static combustion when filling. Appreciate the videos.
Great video ton’ folks take this stuff with a grain of salt, it’s all fun and games until you’re on fire!!!
Then that grain of salt will add seasoning ...
Dammit man ,that reminds me of something I keep forgetting to buy.
A fire extinguisher!
12-14k in this project car ,would be sad to see something happen because I didn't have a 30$ fire extinguisher.
@@MrTheHillfolk I have 4 fire extinguishers in my car, one of them has to work god damn it
Way to go Tony, great safety information.
Good talk Tony... Let's do it again.
Traded Ford trucks with a guy. Had the front high pressure pump replaced a week before at an auto shop. A week after we traded the fuel line popped off and burned the truck to the ground. Be very careful when using Ford plastic clips that hold the fuel lines on. They can crack or break off one side and become unsafe.
It would also be good to have the vent line headed towards the opposite side of the car that the fuel cell vent is on in case you end up on your side. On your setup down like you have it then turn to the driver's side past the point of the cell
Thanks Uncle Tony! Great reminder from a pro!
Great Video. Keep the tech coming.
I was incredibly anal about my fuel system. I used a rollover valve on the vent line and plugged off what I didn't need using AN fittings. I showed this to my friend who would tech cars at drift events and he mentioned he never even considered looking for a rollover valve on people's cars. I had to pause for a moment to process that information.
Great tech/safety advice 👍
I always learn something from you, Uncle Tony!
That was great food for thought! Thanks for sharing!
I have had 5 race cars in my life, none of them went faster than low twelves. I raced for fun. I'm not rich, and could not afford to chase speed. I quit 2 years ago, due to physical disabilities. None of my cars had a roll bar or roll cage. Those aren't required unless your car gets into the tens. Not a bad idea in any race car, if you can afford it. I had my vent hose routed pretty much the same way as you do, except that I did not have it secured to anything. Fortunately in 40+ years of racing, I never crashed on the track. I did have a few breakdowns, but nothing dangerous. While I like the way you did your vent hose, there is one thing I immediately thought of. Please make sure the open end of that vent hose doesn't end right behind the end of the exhaust. I know that sounds crazy, but the hose exits under the car, and the exhaust also usually exits under the car. It might be a one in a million thing, but I can just see somebody putting the end of that vent hose a couple inches from the end of the exhaust.
Thanks!
Thank you!
Truly something to think about.
Best tech and life saving video yet Tony.
More is needed and appreciated.
Thanks
Thanks Tony. I learn something new everyday!
as u always say U.T...."it's the little things that will get ya"....!....good video..!
Looking at the way you have yours set up, if you were to run the end of the vent tube diagonally to the other end of the fuel cell, that would be the optimal place for your set up. It could be in any position and not drain.
Good video Tony.
Great advice Tony, thanks
Good information UTG , that is a subject that is never talked about 😮
Tony ,, Great video,, review basics.. Always helps
Something i didn't consider. I will install a roll over vent valve in my rail buggy I am building. Thanks.
GREAT tip Tony! I'll be adding one to my '65 C10 I'm currently restoring..
Great advice. Often overlooked.
Bravo bravo Awesome job tony
I was at US 13 Dragway in Del-Mar DE years ago and a Camaro broke an axle and the wheel ,axle, drum assy came out, flying and bouncing out, and hit the car beside him. then both cars went out of control and crashed. It was a bad scene, thankfully everyone was OK. It's not always your car that has a failure! The Marine industry uses a nifty double check valve for fuel tank vents on boats. It maintains a specified pressure or slight vacuum in the tank. works great, vapors don't leak out freely. it's kind of like a 2 way roll over valve. liquid on either side of it will close it. Any way, for what it's worth, that's what i used.
THANK YOU !!!!!!
One thing I have started doing Every Time on old cars is an in-line electric pump with a relay and inertia switch. I leave the stock mech pump and the cheep pump has a switch. It helps a lot with the no start issues that come with modern ethanol fuel
Racing is a dangerous game things can go wrong especially when people get comfortable and things become routine , people take things for granted and don't think about the little details in this incident was probably one of those incidence unfortunately.
Well said
circle tracks require fuel cells with roll over vents. Even the low classes require them.
Great tip 👍
Great information to learn, Thanks U.T.!
Thank you
Tony, what percentage of passenger cars have rollover (ball check) valves from the factory? Is there a date where NTSA made them mandatory?
Excellent question. I witnessed a roll over and ran over to help the driver/passengers. Even though upside down, the vehicle engine (and spinning rear wheels) ran a very long time.
@woodendoorgarage Thanks for the info. I worked on the fuel rank on my 5.7L '94 Caprice. I was trying to siphon gas out of the tank and discovered it had the ball check valve.
@@8000RPM. Yeah it sounds like the anti-siphon valve would also come into play in case of a rollover
Good stuff, I will check mine later today.
I have friends that race locally. I posted the video to Facebook. It's safety gold.
Thanks for adding this extra little bit of paranoia in my life. What would I do without you UT.
The worst wreck I ever saw, was Richard Pettys 1988 Daytona 500 wreck. To this day, anytime I hear the words, "race", and "wreck" , THAT one comes to the front of my mind.
Good content, I got something out of all of that! Things I never thought of.
50 years ago I briefly dabbled in speedway, and the rule was to run the vent line twice around the fuel tank and then through the floor.
Nice one uncle 👍
Stories like this is why I'm installing a full fire suppression system in my 67 mustang project
I was just today arguing that we should have an all fire types extinguisher in each work truck. Result was I have to go buy them now. :)
Adding my fuel cell in my Dart this was very helpful
In aviation we would say there are two kinds of pilots: those that have landed gear up and those who will.
Bad things happen no matter what one does to present failure. All one can do, is keep minimizing the chance of failure, and plan for when a failure occurs.
It sounds like it was a bad incident. Fingers crossed for the driver and the family.
This is one of the reasons why I bought a 178.99 RCI 16 gallon fuel cell with built in 0-90 ohms sending unit . it comes from the factory with check ball safety valve for the vent line incase vehicle tips/ flips over .
Yep rollover valve is mandatory. I also have a RCI 16 gal
So im listing to the vent system on fuel tanks, what came to mind is a ball ck valve where vapor can escape but, liquid cant flow past the ball. Picture a wet dry vacume
You can suck up water untill fulids raise the ball and shut off the suction from the motor, let the water out the vacume can pick up water the ball floats on water or liquids shutting off the flow air can pass fuel cant. Thats the vent system you should be using the vent system also sends the vapor to the motor and its sucked up by the carbrator assuming its not a computer controled fuel injected system.
Tony I'm glad you brought this up for people to make sure of yours as well as someone else's safety.
Great segment, Tony - you may have saved someone’s life today.
Another thing no one seems to consider is what happens with an electric fuel pump in a crash. The OEMs use some sort of safety switch. Guy putting an aftermarket electronic pump on an old whatever? He's gotta hope he has the ability to switch off the key immediately after the unexpected crash.
Welcome to UTG information corner..
Your welcome in advance..
There seems to be an epidemic of normal commuter car roll overs here in Australia lately, or maybe I'm just seeing them more because of dash cams and news reports.
Spikes setting up shop in the capillaries causing people to make bad decisions. Im seeing it more and more on the road and elsewhere. People are loosing their minds.
I personally wouldn't mind hearing this annually along with more basics for first timers and seasoned veterans alike.
That's what I call "makin' bacon". Junk yards are full of rollover vent valves last I looked. Every single fuel tank.
I used to have the vent line with acouple of loops in the line then to atmo , got idea off of seeing a dirt track speedway car with it
when a race car gets sideways (90 degrees) and the slicks grab the track there is a good chance your going over. A roll over check valve on the vent line is a must. Its cheap insurance.
Your slick Tony.
Uncle T, i agree 100%, but i have a ?, could/would it be just a lil better to have a lil bit bigger hole in the floor with a rubber grommet in it, keep the line loose but give it a lil more protection from being cut by the unknown distortion of the structure of the surrounding metal? I think thats the way i would set it up, actually thats exactly what i do, lol
Yeah same thoughts here
SOLD!
Winston Cup cars use a rollover valve in their fuel filler tubes!
another good idea is to make sure there are holes in the floor pan so any spilled fuel can run out of the car. that way if fuel is spilled while adding fuel wont keep fumes into the car for a long time.
The lack of knowledge for things like fuel tank vents is probably because most people brush it off as just emissions BS, since emissions standards lead to very complicated vent systems so you'd think vents = for emissions.
Armco barriers can turn a 30 mph hit into a rollover situation.
NHRA safety regulations are written in blood. Really nice video, please keep these coming.
Could you add thoughts about an evap system? The evap on my car is necessary for emissions and I know its actually higher than the fuel tank.
"Sincerely hope its something you never have to use" - and that is the unfortunate part on all this. How do you know your roll bar or roll cage will actually work? Did you weld it correctly or does the weld only look cosmetically good? etc. etc.
One safety aspect the road racers like - no anti-freeze in the coolant. Pure water (with maybe a water wetter) just to keep the anti-freeze off the track. Can't remember the last time the track actually checked the puke tank....
If you're going fast enough to doubt the welds on the roll cage, you should get them certified
Hey Uncle Tony, I think the amount of vapor per each liquid gallon of gas in a rollover or bad leak situation is the biggest factor here. From what I can find 1 liquid gallon vaporizes into 160 vapor gallon or 21.4 cubic feet of vapor. The liquid isn't the problem, vapor is in safety.. Am I correct here?
Great info but had to wonder how you used a ford as your example. I suppose when you keep getting over taken by one it creates animosity. 😁🇬🇸👍
Speaking on making sure things are properly vented, any time a lead acid battery is mounted in the passenger area it needs to be well vented. Even small amounts of hydrogen can ruin your day if ignited.
On a public Street I seen the police chase a car the car lost control hit a suv in the back wheel and rolled the suv over a gard rail down the hill . It was crazy . I would have never thought a still vehicle would just roll over like that
sad to hear about Atco Dragway !
HOWdy U-T-G, ...
Thanks for the WORST CASE SCENARIO !
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What would the ignition source come from? Unless it has points
How do OEM vent setups work? They usually have the vent at the filler neck, but they don’t leak when you flip, do they work similar to a petrol pumps cutoff valve but in reverse?
Anything with evaporative emissions vents the tank into the engine. They actually pull a slight vacuum on the tank.
will that work if it is on it's side?
Another big one I see a lot is someone installing an electric fuel pump and no inertia or oil pressure cutoff.
Can turn a fender bender into a rollover sized incident
I appreciate the safety info but also I can remember you putting out a cigarette with gasoline in an older episode😂
Didn't know you mentioned it woops LOL
Got me thinking…never thought about this issue.
It looks like a passenger side roll could leave you with a leak.
Should the set up you are running have a section of tubing under the floor running to the drivers side of the car?
Yo UT ..question..
So my 67 Impala has exposed vent tubes from the factory..
Would that factory fuel sending unit have a roll over valve as part of the design or am I concerned for nothing because it’s just a crusier ?
thankyou im working on a 54 anglia thames gasser fuel pump was mounted a holley blue electric pump above the tank and sideways, i just got it below the tank upright and thought i had a return line ,nope done see one im running 7 pounds burnt 2 pumps the motor but now i notice no return line and the vent line,im checking for a check valve in the vent line,withouut a return line and the pump runs all the time,is that the couse of burning pump motors or being sideways, isnt this deadheading should i crank the presure up probable run a return line would be smart,,geeze the things you find if you didnt build it all street legal car 302 chevy dart block ran mid 12s with a holley quickfuel mech 750 dam i can always run a rubber line i gues maybey not do it right
I noticed that there wasn't a ground wire on the fuel cell, this required by nhra