Workout Volume is Killing Your Gains!

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  • Опубликовано: 8 май 2019
  • If you’ve been around any gym or online forum these days you’ve likely heard that training volume is the key to all muscle growth and gains. In fact, of every other element of your workouts, the amount of training volume you accrue over a single workout or multiple workouts is supposed to be the main driver of muscle growth and size. In this video, I’m going to debunk the value of volume. In fact, I’m going to show you how volume can be almost entirely negated in the absence of something far more important - training intensity.
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    Much like functional training was the buzz word of the early 2000’s, volume has become the equivalent for 2019. We have been led to believe that simply adding more sets and time to our workouts is going to equate to faster and more significant muscle growth. This has led to an epidemic of people spending more time than ever in the gym, getting far less results than ever before.
    Not to mention, with all the additional volume being misdirected towards their joints and tendons there are more people gaining aches and pains from their training than they are hypertrophy. Why is this? Because accruing volume for the sake of volume is one of the biggest mistakes you can make in your workouts. The best thing you can do is trade in some of that volume for intensity if you really want to see increased muscle mass and development.
    As it is, I believe that many people in the gym simply don’t train hard enough. The adoption of volume as the driver of gains and the focus of many people’s workouts is something that easily fits that narrative. Rather than work harder with less, all that is required to obtain more volume is time. If you have additional time to spare, you can add more sets to your workouts. That said, the only way you are going to add more intensity is with more effort.
    Effort is something that will not come easy. Effort is going to demand that you look for ways to intensify the state of your workouts. Adding paused repetitions, reducing rest time between sets, pushing to actual failure at least a few times during your workouts are all things that are going to require a higher level of output and effort than simply adding more time.
    If you want to see greater muscle growth from your workouts you are going to have to be willing to push harder. What winds up happening when you trade in workout length for intensity is that you see what science has shown and that is, even as little as 4-10 productive high effort sets is all it takes to elicit a muscle hypertrophy response from your training. There is no need to spend hours and hours in a gym trying to get results when far less time is capable of doing the same.
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  • @athleanx
    @athleanx  5 лет назад +935

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  • @gikiaaf3771
    @gikiaaf3771 5 лет назад +2975

    Me: working out regularly
    Jeff: i'm about to destroy this man's gains

    • @Deaf_Notes
      @Deaf_Notes 5 лет назад +47

      I broke up with my ex girl.......

    • @teamfortresseditor2
      @teamfortresseditor2 5 лет назад +40

      @@Deaf_Notes good for you?

    • @Christian-sd8gs
      @Christian-sd8gs 5 лет назад +38

      @@Deaf_Notes here's the number

    • @conork7726
      @conork7726 5 лет назад +18

      @@Christian-sd8gs is it the wrong number?

    • @ye249
      @ye249 5 лет назад +50

      @@teamfortresseditor2 SIKE

  • @akmalfaruzzi10
    @akmalfaruzzi10 5 лет назад +408

    When Jeff unveiled the intensity part of the graph, I gasped

    • @abhilashmessi31
      @abhilashmessi31 5 лет назад +27

      Suprised pikachu face!

    • @TorquemadaTwist
      @TorquemadaTwist 5 лет назад +6

      I now flinch when I see a piece of paper taped to a white board. Paper cuts are killing my gains.

    • @chenoalaurencin
      @chenoalaurencin 5 лет назад +1

      😂😂

  • @ankitkaliraman5356
    @ankitkaliraman5356 5 лет назад +924

    You can't lose gains if u don't have them in the first place .

    • @RelaxAndSmokeMeth
      @RelaxAndSmokeMeth 5 лет назад +50

      What is dead may never die.

    • @ankitkaliraman5356
      @ankitkaliraman5356 5 лет назад +11

      @@RelaxAndSmokeMeth what do we say to the god of gains?

    • @RelaxAndSmokeMeth
      @RelaxAndSmokeMeth 5 лет назад +24

      @@ankitkaliraman5356 not today. Volume kills gains.

    • @renem8130
      @renem8130 5 лет назад +4

      Thinking of a pun with Clegane.

    • @cl759
      @cl759 5 лет назад +3

      U don't have gains because you killed them.

  • @macky5361
    @macky5361 5 лет назад +2340

    I'm watching this with the volume turned right down so are my gains safe?

    • @Noname-bt7zp
      @Noname-bt7zp 4 года назад +63

      I liked that one it’s actually original for once

    • @bokastark3925
      @bokastark3925 4 года назад +24

      According to Jeff..you watching this is killing your gains

    • @asmongoldsmouth9839
      @asmongoldsmouth9839 4 года назад +14

      If you are getting distortion then your gain is too high. Crank up your volume and lower your gain for a clean sound 😉 jk

    • @uileam161
      @uileam161 4 года назад +2

      So.... this is where most people go wrong....

    • @thatcarguy6190
      @thatcarguy6190 4 года назад +1

      @@uileam161 what making jokes instead of "Listening" and taking the information in?
      Wait... I gotta spam another joke!

  • @louisvuittonasmr8643
    @louisvuittonasmr8643 5 лет назад +2017

    Me: sits down onto chair
    Jeff: 😑
    Me: squats down onto the chair
    Jeff: 😏

    • @benwilliams6567
      @benwilliams6567 5 лет назад +18

      Well he did say don’t do volume 😂

    • @Mrmaxmaxl
      @Mrmaxmaxl 5 лет назад +59

      You forgot to do facepulls on the way down!!

    • @DreErdna
      @DreErdna 5 лет назад +2

      Haha

    • @KK-tt6ui
      @KK-tt6ui 5 лет назад +2

      Lol

    • @KulaGGin
      @KulaGGin 5 лет назад +1

      BOOM! TETRIS FOR JEFF!

  • @gunsrlove
    @gunsrlove 5 лет назад +1334

    Dammit Jeff....Next video: Too much gains are killing your gains

    • @Parms
      @Parms 5 лет назад +3

      Vel_A LMAO!

    • @rleeboston33
      @rleeboston33 5 лет назад +10

      Actually laughed out loud.

    • @Dan-dd8tt
      @Dan-dd8tt 5 лет назад +52

      Subsequent Video:.....To much killing is gaining you kills.

    • @this_is_jmdub
      @this_is_jmdub 5 лет назад

      he already dead a video on over-training.. isnt it that sort of?

    • @omgmaster9985
      @omgmaster9985 5 лет назад +1

      D now that actually is right

  • @tristanunsay2182
    @tristanunsay2182 5 лет назад +1244

    Next video title: “Not being Jeff Cavaliere Is Killing Your Gains!”

    • @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked
      @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked 4 года назад +14

      @@DjClayface next video title: "Shirtless public venture will boost your gains; be comfortable in your skin."

    • @ashwanikumar-gv6ir
      @ashwanikumar-gv6ir 4 года назад +5

      @@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked next video title: "calisthenics are killing your gains."

    • @callmegeo3319
      @callmegeo3319 3 года назад

      😂😂

    • @SpaCeDuDexxx
      @SpaCeDuDexxx 3 года назад

      Lmfao

  • @user-wk4np7fh2v
    @user-wk4np7fh2v 4 года назад +1871

    Jeff: you only need 4-10 good sets
    Also Jeff: heres the perfect arm workout with 15 different exercises

    • @JaredandTasha
      @JaredandTasha 4 года назад +177

      uskur thats because he’s a G and would rather give you more to be creative with on your own.

    • @ScamallDorcha
      @ScamallDorcha 4 года назад +184

      You're supposed to try different ones, choose a few and do those.

    • @jorge.rubiales
      @jorge.rubiales 4 года назад +38

      You only really do those workouts in a bro-split, not a total body or PPL

    • @TyrDrum
      @TyrDrum 4 года назад +18

      After all, a bro split is the most common in the bodybuilding scene.

    • @nerobsc7597
      @nerobsc7597 4 года назад +37

      4-10 sets for each exercise 💪🏻

  • @healthycomposition4204
    @healthycomposition4204 5 лет назад +484

    Most people aspire to have new years resolutions, but new years resolutions aspire to have Jeff

  • @nottyseel949
    @nottyseel949 5 лет назад +1414

    Me: *eats oatmeal*
    Jeff: *stares*...
    Me: *throws away spoon and begins face pulling bowl*
    Jeff: 👍🏼

  • @Turkeyburger123
    @Turkeyburger123 4 года назад +450

    Who's here after jeff nippard posted his response

    • @mgtm
      @mgtm 4 года назад +47

      Nippard explained a recent study on this and pretty much confirmed what Cavalier is saying here.

    • @vrtruebluebuddha6693
      @vrtruebluebuddha6693 4 года назад +51

      Deez Nuts: Yeah just watched Nippards video and following up watching Jeff C's. To me the bottom line is that training volume and intensity should be balanced for optimal results. Need a certain balance of both for best results.

    • @kristsostad7571
      @kristsostad7571 4 года назад

      Lmaoooo

    • @chayoto
      @chayoto 4 года назад +19

      @@vrtruebluebuddha6693 Amen to that. That point at which the two lines cross. And then there's a qualitative aspect that mustn't be overlooked: proper form.

    • @myx2818
      @myx2818 4 года назад

      Hahahaha

  • @ShyBoy6ty9
    @ShyBoy6ty9 5 лет назад +336

    "Somewhere between 4-10 sets"
    I've never been so happy to know I'm doing something right. Thanks Jeff.

    • @sirfailalotful
      @sirfailalotful 4 года назад +2

      Exactly what I was looking for.

    • @TyrDrum
      @TyrDrum 4 года назад +16

      @Anthony Jones Yes

    • @darthghitza8037
      @darthghitza8037 4 года назад +6

      @Anthony Jones yes, but those are hard sets (close to failure).

    • @JfaJosephR9
      @JfaJosephR9 4 года назад +20

      No. That is per workout.

    • @JfaJosephR9
      @JfaJosephR9 4 года назад +10

      He was just stating that’s all you need to stimulate protein synthesis. In order to make max gains you want to stimulate protein synthesis not just once a week but twice a week. So two sessions training 6 sets each session is good

  • @michaeljansz4346
    @michaeljansz4346 5 лет назад +604

    Jeff's graphing skills are killing my gains.

    • @jellystick2525
      @jellystick2525 5 лет назад +137

      High and low on 2 separate axes, my brain is malfunctioning

    • @mdd1963
      @mdd1963 5 лет назад +3

      Merely thinking about gains retroactively killed mine!

    • @Pikachu-qr4yb
      @Pikachu-qr4yb 5 лет назад +2

      @@jellystick2525 I got so confused and felt dumb because it sounds so simple... I feel like I've been gaslighted lol

    • @Shalerboy101
      @Shalerboy101 5 лет назад

      JellyStick Danix Exactly what I was thinking...

    • @KXP70
      @KXP70 5 лет назад +1

      @@jellystick2525 It's fairly basic stuff though

  • @DiskoKDiskoL
    @DiskoKDiskoL 5 лет назад +361

    Only volume that is killing my gains is the volume of fast food I eat.

  • @sra154
    @sra154 5 лет назад +273

    Ran into a friend of mine at the gym yesterday and he said he just finished a 2 hour workout. He's 67. First thing I thought was, "I would need a wheelchair to get to the truck after a 2 hour workout". I asked him what he did and he replied, 10 upper body exercises, 4 sets and 15 reps each. Then came the dreaded qualifier, "of course I used light weight".
    I'm near 71 and told him that I have limited my workouts to 40-45 minutes and have to rest for about 20 minutes before I even leave the gym. I do 3-4 training routines per week with 6-8 exercises, 3 sets of 6 reps each. Contrast his 2 hour volume session with my 45 minute session. The difference? I use 80-85% of true 1RM therefore the real difference is intensity. I asked him how those old joints felt the day after his workout. "well, they hurt" implying that's the price we old guys have pay for weight training. I told him that in my opinion repetitive motion doing that many reps is more detrimental to my joint health than training heavy. The results in size and strength since I went to shorter, heavier sessions dwarfs the gains of my previous year's "volume" training.
    One thing I would ask Jeff to do when it's appropriate is say, "for you older guys and gals who still do weight training, listen up." Jeff's advice is good for the youngest among us. But remember, hopefully you will some day be a 50, 60 or 70 year old gym rat and believe me you can handle the intensity if you haven't burned your body out during what ends up being your "fleeting" youth.

    • @oracleoracle691
      @oracleoracle691 5 лет назад +3

      Totally agree

    • @markp1078
      @markp1078 4 года назад

      max ot principles applied=gains

    • @monkeyman41333
      @monkeyman41333 4 года назад +7

      Way too simplified. Volume training didn't hurt Jay Cutler, Dexter Jackson, etc, etc. When you get a little older... Im now 60 and still competing... more volume and lower weight with intensity is what works. My joints are way less sore than when I lift heavy;. I am only 160 lbs (5'2") and still squat over 300, and DL 400. Cant bench press anymore due to 2 rotator cuff surgeries I am so tired of blanket statements about how to train. I use my brain, don't treat any one trainer as god, and it has worked pretty well for me, as my trophy shelf indicates.

    • @monkeyman41333
      @monkeyman41333 4 года назад +5

      @PeytonsPawPaw 1 You can lift as much and hard as you want, but unless your diet is on point, you will never have definition. Even Jeff would agree with me on this point. He has one piece of carrot cake a year for god;s sake.

    • @JasonWW2000
      @JasonWW2000 4 года назад +1

      R F It sounds like your friend was just trying to stay toned and in shape as opposed to trying to build muscle mass. That's okay as long as that is his goal.

  • @alexisthebest77
    @alexisthebest77 4 года назад +285

    His graph pissed me off, having high and low on 2 different planes. But everything else is good lol

    • @Noname-bt7zp
      @Noname-bt7zp 4 года назад +5

      alex munoz yeh it’s pretty dumb

    • @nicksewell6642
      @nicksewell6642 4 года назад +1

      Well, how do you fix it?

    • @Sandkasten36
      @Sandkasten36 4 года назад +34

      @@nicksewell6642 By having intensity on x and volume on y.
      Same with supply and demand. The graphs would be the same.

    • @marcorodrigues675
      @marcorodrigues675 4 года назад +9

      Thank you for this comment. That was pissing me off too hahaha

    • @rizwaanr5968
      @rizwaanr5968 3 года назад +1

      same, it makes no sense at all, but then again everything else is *not* good either. You're not supposed to train till complete failure, you're supposed to stop 1-3 reps shy of failure for maximum gains

  • @TheDeagster877
    @TheDeagster877 5 лет назад +2468

    Swole Father,
    Who art in heaven,
    Vascular be thine veins.
    Thy gainz come,
    Thy sets be done,
    Overhead as it is on chest.
    Give us this day our daily macros,
    And forgive our cheat days,
    As we forgive those who curl in the squat rack.
    Lead us not into half reps,
    But deliver us from Crossfit.
    For thine is the Bro, the PR, the natty Forever,
    Wheymen.

    • @lucianoagustinfernandezgar3521
      @lucianoagustinfernandezgar3521 5 лет назад +84

      Best comment EVER👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

    • @anoobanilkumar5263
      @anoobanilkumar5263 5 лет назад +22

      Siiickkk

    • @dex2rous891
      @dex2rous891 5 лет назад +30

      Only 46 likes?? You need to pray harder. Gold!

    • @Marcus-wj8jz
      @Marcus-wj8jz 5 лет назад +35

      I Feel offended that this only has 1.2k likes
      Wheymen brethren

    • @sqb8980
      @sqb8980 5 лет назад +30

      Wheymen bro ,😂
      Add on: who art in the gym

  • @killamilla702
    @killamilla702 5 лет назад +1391

    Next Video:
    Why Working Out is Killing Your Gains

    • @austinsilva7025
      @austinsilva7025 5 лет назад +32

      They already made this one lol😂😂😂

    • @lablueguy2000
      @lablueguy2000 5 лет назад +4

      😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

    • @jannclaudebinoya
      @jannclaudebinoya 5 лет назад +57

      Why breathing is killing your gains

    • @ahmedtamer6170
      @ahmedtamer6170 5 лет назад +4

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂omg

    • @killamilla702
      @killamilla702 5 лет назад +3

      @@jannclaudebinoya 😂😂💀💀💀I'm dead

  • @MrToMiK007
    @MrToMiK007 5 лет назад +231

    We: What are the factors that affect badly and kill our gains?
    Jeff: *Yes*

  • @jeffsim4191
    @jeffsim4191 4 года назад +28

    As a 41yr old, not being concerned with hitting PRs and lowering the weight a little bit while increasing volume has allowed me to train consistently throughout the year with out joint/ligament pain. It's been really good for me as an older lifter.

    • @john-carlosynostroza
      @john-carlosynostroza 10 месяцев назад +5

      Hundred percent bro. I'm pretty much in the same place as you and I went from 215 and always working in 5 to 12 rep range to now working mostly in 15 to 20... I weigh 170 and watch my nutrition package carefully and have the best physique in my adult life. I love always being lean and having no pain. Sure, I'm not nearly as strong as I was but I'm stronger than pretty much everybody I know other than gym freaks here and there so whatever. Mostly it's about feeling good and feeling healthy and still looking great!

    • @michaelmesser2202
      @michaelmesser2202 8 месяцев назад +1

      I'm 47 and pretty much a weight lifting beginner and why would you want to lift and not lift with intensity going to absolute failure. It doesn't even feel good stopping with anything left at all on a set

    • @john-carlosynostroza
      @john-carlosynostroza 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@michaelmesser2202as a beginner you won't have as much muscle built up from over the years and sometimes you may eventually want to train close to failure but short so as to maintain but also help with recovery depending on other elements of your lifestyle. Keep training and keep that died in check, enjoy!

    • @Magnulus76
      @Magnulus76 7 месяцев назад +1

      I think the point is, instead of adding volume, people should progress on weight, regardless of whether they train to failure or not.

    • @Magnulus76
      @Magnulus76 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@michaelmesser2202 Too much intensity raises the risk of injury. Like telling an untrained person to do a pull up. Good way to tear a labrum in short order. Sometimes your muscles can be stronger than your joints.

  • @Carlos-fh8wk
    @Carlos-fh8wk 5 лет назад +735

    The thing is...when I bring down the volume, I can’t hear too well. I’m I the only one ?

  • @TheChristenberry
    @TheChristenberry 5 лет назад +1737

    *performs perfect pushup
    Me: Am I doing this right Jeff?
    Jeff: Yes
    Also Jeff: but actually no

    • @knockdadeathstroke3799
      @knockdadeathstroke3799 5 лет назад +47

      Also Jeff: the reason I say that is because you did only one variation and forgot about other positions so you can gain muscle faster

    • @Abbottude
      @Abbottude 5 лет назад +7

      christenberry LMAOOOO FOR REAL

    • @mrupholsteryman
      @mrupholsteryman 5 лет назад +3

      Yes..exactly right for my reason to show what is wrong....

    • @poptarts224
      @poptarts224 5 лет назад +1

      christenberry lmfaoo

    • @DeWente69
      @DeWente69 5 лет назад +3

      I killed my abs yesterday. You made me regret it. I don't like you! Lmao! My obliques hurt!

  • @ethanokura
    @ethanokura 5 лет назад +9

    Thanks, Jeff! This was revolutionary in my thinking. I've been wasting years going to the gym without quite understanding the value of intensity and truly taking a set to failure. I sure do appreciate the work you are doing to make a difference in the world.

  • @skaterforlife2
    @skaterforlife2 4 года назад +33

    Me: watching RUclips to increase my gains
    Jeff: Watching my videos is killing your gains

  • @grandma4885
    @grandma4885 5 лет назад +128

    Did my first muscle up today with a ressistance band I was so happy!

    • @tyson6762
      @tyson6762 5 лет назад +38

      Congratulations Grandma!!! I'm proud of you

    • @sam117mas
      @sam117mas 5 лет назад +18

      Strong granny

    • @MrChaos-jh3zq
      @MrChaos-jh3zq 5 лет назад +33

      U a beast. But muscleups are killing your gains//😂

    • @mayankarora4243
      @mayankarora4243 5 лет назад +7

      This granny will outlive the Queen.

    • @chrisricks6363
      @chrisricks6363 5 лет назад +1

      grandma man the fuk up!

  • @toskee7182
    @toskee7182 5 лет назад +551

    Jeff's next video: "Lifting weights is killing your gainz"

  • @benedictlim5865
    @benedictlim5865 4 года назад +35

    Jeff: "Today I'm gonna show you how breathing is actually KILLING your gains"
    Us: *Believes*

  • @foster192
    @foster192 5 лет назад +834

    Workout volume is killling your gains!
    (Wearing a 247365 shirt)

    • @eddiewiggles9398
      @eddiewiggles9398 5 лет назад +11

      LOL

    • @MoutidisC
      @MoutidisC 5 лет назад +8

      what do those numbers mean? i am confusion

    • @subhojitmakur7131
      @subhojitmakur7131 5 лет назад +59

      Constantin Moutidis 24 is for hours of a day 7 is for days of a week and 365 is for days in a year

    • @johnstockman2677
      @johnstockman2677 5 лет назад +3

      😂

    • @ApsisIM
      @ApsisIM 5 лет назад +38

      @Mosley Shoahs also it makes reference to fitness being a lifestyle...

  • @Ragnando
    @Ragnando 5 лет назад +211

    Next video: Low volume workout is killing your gains

    • @philhaith4983
      @philhaith4983 5 лет назад +2

      GatoFaminto LOL

    • @familyofquran
      @familyofquran 5 лет назад +7

      He already did that lol

    • @eleng6926
      @eleng6926 5 лет назад +9

      Everything seems to be killing the gains huh

    • @alrivers2297
      @alrivers2297 5 лет назад +6

      Then after that, How your gains are killing your gains.

    • @israela9631
      @israela9631 5 лет назад +1

      Watching this is killing your gains

  • @naheemrazwan
    @naheemrazwan 4 года назад +12

    Seriously this dude deserves a platinum - he always delivers quality tips and advice. Thanks Jeff appreciated as always 🙌

  • @dominicdo
    @dominicdo 4 года назад +2

    Hi Jeff, love the videos. I always train to failure and keep my intensity close to max, i have to no problem with doing lower volume workouts like 4-6 sets and 10 reps with a tut of 30 seconds. I tried changing my workout routing and doing 10-15 sets, 10 reps and tut of 30 seconds. This change of training shocked the hell out of my muscles and i could really feel DOMS. I think it's best to always change your routines and keep your muscles guessing as to what kind of beating your going to give them next. As a new person to weight lifting i have learned there are allot of different variables to building muscle properly and it's easy to get lost in the sea of youtube videos.

  • @bluedevils898
    @bluedevils898 5 лет назад +187

    I find myself staring at Jeff’s biceps for the majority of every video

    • @randysavage2430
      @randysavage2430 5 лет назад +6

      Eric Driver i keep trying to find his triceps

    • @alineharam
      @alineharam 5 лет назад +4

      Obviously he has terrible tumors which continue to grow, but resemble biceps.

    • @bluedevils898
      @bluedevils898 5 лет назад +1

      Aldo Garbellini poor guy

    • @ianciti
      @ianciti 5 лет назад

      @@randysavage2430 the triceps are always hiding under the shirt. waiting for their time to shine.

    • @robh.5595
      @robh.5595 5 лет назад +1

      Just staring at Jeff's biceps, kills my gains.

  • @CBielski87
    @CBielski87 5 лет назад +108

    Papa Jeff needs to hire a math or engineering tutor to practice his graph gains

    • @brotherman8290
      @brotherman8290 5 лет назад +19

      lelz he skipped brain day

    • @christophersurnname9967
      @christophersurnname9967 5 лет назад +3

      Yeah terrible attempt at a graph like wtf?? Haha I was confused as fuck. As a math major I was face palming

    • @onurbole7921
      @onurbole7921 5 лет назад +3

      Axis titles high and low had me dead 😂

    • @DeTreViseMaend
      @DeTreViseMaend 5 лет назад +1

      I guess what he really meant to have was intensity as a function of volume? At least that's what I gather from his verbal explanation

    • @onurbole7921
      @onurbole7921 5 лет назад

      @@DeTreViseMaend To oversimplify things, he meant something like volume = time under tension (or total reps) X force (or weight used). It could be simply that the x axis is time and y axis is force. Intensity is force in that equation. Used that way, volume would increase along with force and time in the graph for a while, then it would start to become inversely proportion to force, even though it would keep increasing with time. For example you can do 50 sets, meaning you increase the time of your workout sessions, and even if you do light weight the total volume will be high. But force applied per minute will sharply decrease and you won't get enough stimulus for growth or progressive overload. That's intensity sacrificed for volume. In another video he was talking exactly about that, finding a way to do more work in less time while lifting relatively heavy (70+% of 1RM) and doing enough work without burning yourself out too soon (i.e., still doing 25-50 reps per exercise).

  • @DeepTrance86
    @DeepTrance86 5 лет назад +23

    Finally, someone explained fully well what I have thought through my years of studying fitness and it came from someone who truly knows and understands Fitness and Sports Science. This information in Jeff's channel actually benefits me a lot when I'll be giving advice to people and clients in the future as I'm taking up Sports Science and gonna be graduating next month God-willing. Thank you as always Jeff for putting out real, scientific-based and critically thought out content. You are one of the main channels I go to for training and physical fitness advice and I give you credit for the knowledge I have gained through the years. The main takeaway I got is QUALITY over Quantity! The "more is better" ideology in my opinion is a misconception. As explained, the more volume you do in a workout, the less intensity you have to put in and the more you will hold back in giving your best effort in every rep, set, and workout which lessens the results you can get. The more intense the workout is, then the less time you have to be in the gym (which is convenient by the way for people who have more important things to do than be in the gym all day) and get the most out of your workout which leads to GREATER RESULTS. This is what we want, FAST AND GREAT RESULTS in LESS TIME. It is true, TRAIN YOUR HARDEST AND BEST, allow the body to recover through proper SLEEP and NUTRITION(also thru techniques and activities that enhance recovery), develop good habits like having focus, discipline and commitment and you can achieve not only the physique that you want but also better overall health and well-being and quality of life. Just sharing my thoughts and I'm not really the type to comment on RUclips videos but I had to say this. Hope it helps. God bless and peace to y'all fitness enthusiasts and supporters of ATHLEAN-X!

    • @r0llc4ll66
      @r0llc4ll66 3 года назад

      Should beginner like all out like Jeff mentioned in this video?

  • @JJMalvarez
    @JJMalvarez 5 лет назад +3

    Excellent lesson Jeff. You couldn't put it any simpler. Although old bodybuilders were much into volume, by watching their old videos you can see how intense they worked out to where they were dropping the weights or themselves to the floor because of exhaustion. Thank You!

  • @JaxBlade
    @JaxBlade 5 лет назад +468

    I'd love to see Jeff on Joe Rogan's Podcast or with that one GSP coach, nothing hostile just a discussion lol

    • @syedabood6892
      @syedabood6892 5 лет назад +5

      Love your channel dude. Keep up the good work

    • @andrewfolsom3836
      @andrewfolsom3836 5 лет назад +5

      Definitely, and allan thrall

    • @Kriksis99
      @Kriksis99 5 лет назад +5

      JaxBlade you mean Firas Zahabi? I think his stuff is genius idk😄

    • @bjrnmagnusson5351
      @bjrnmagnusson5351 5 лет назад +6

      I was thinking the same thing about what Firas Zahabi said on JRE. He makes this point more clearly on his own channel about the difference between training the body and the technique/mind.
      The body can only sustain a certain volume of training at a particular intensity level. Too much leads to the soreness and inability to train the next day that he spoke about. The mind, or technique, can be trained every day because it is a low intensity, high volume regiment.

    • @dkoli
      @dkoli 5 лет назад +2

      @@Kriksis99 Firas is actually dumb af, hes a great coach but he is not an intellectual by any means. His philosophical talk is cringe

  • @NEdJEMNEDJEM
    @NEdJEMNEDJEM 5 лет назад +3

    Thanks for the free content Jeff, been following you for years. I really appreciate your work. Greetings from Germany

  • @thekefirguycompany3026
    @thekefirguycompany3026 3 года назад +1

    Thanks Jeff. Like you said, many of us will thank you for making this video. I need to talk with my clients about this fact. I adopted it myself some time ago and i saw "almost" instant effect in my training. It actually affects the whole approach to training and how to use your body. Today we concentrated on integrating soccer players upperbody and lowerbody from every single angle, steady ground control and exploaive pulling movements on pull-up bar, sports specific movements to exploaive hanging core and back movements as well as only explosive hanging core, hip and pulling movements. I can see many players have disintegrated body movement and body awareness even though they've played soccer from 5 to even 15 years on the field. Thinking about how much stronger, faster, more explosive and more poise they will become when understanding these principles you said explained in a very delicate way. I can be with them only once a week and they are in charge all 6 days of the week in their physical training. Thank you Jeff for kindling the fire to bring this matter into consideration. Much blessings as always! 🙏💥💯👑💝🥳

  • @kaycgrocks
    @kaycgrocks 5 лет назад +337

    Jeff always makes me question my whole entire life each video, I'm guilty of doing junk volume for sure

    • @kaycgrocks
      @kaycgrocks 5 лет назад +16

      Druhrfe Hadishia What’s that supposed to even mean??

    • @malalalalalala
      @malalalalalala 5 лет назад

      I am a preacher of junk volume

    • @neverforgettodofacepulls782
      @neverforgettodofacepulls782 5 лет назад +2

      If you been training for a decent amount of time, or just learned some things from Jeff, volume is garbage if it doesn't challenge you with intensity (or any training technique for that matter). This was a no brainer.

    • @bigblackconcasse3764
      @bigblackconcasse3764 5 лет назад +1

      Hydration is important

    • @frontpage11111
      @frontpage11111 5 лет назад +2

      guys im foreign language r
      i understand from the video is; 3x12 may not be the best for gainz sometimes 5x5 with higher kg will provide more gainz.
      am i understand right?

  • @shefchenko111
    @shefchenko111 5 лет назад +697

    Jeff: You're going to prison!
    Me: Why?
    Jeff: Because you're killing your gains

  • @patriciaclayton6652
    @patriciaclayton6652 Год назад +1

    I'm really enjoying the workout with Jeff, he explaines the exercises so they're easy to understand. It's like have your own personal trainer. Thank you Jeff from Patricia (Sydney Australia)

  • @burntofferings3770
    @burntofferings3770 5 лет назад +1

    Jeff: Sir you make good training so much better. After years in the gym most trainers have little to offer me, but I learn and get motivated due to the extensive knowledge and dedication you live. Thanks for all you do and being such a master.

  • @artickk4146
    @artickk4146 5 лет назад +44

    You are the definition of consistency and hard work. Thanks my man !

  • @theneonpython
    @theneonpython 5 лет назад +25

    i think Jeff is essentially saying that people, especially newbies, add more to routines because they feel they arent doing enough. but their poor performance of the later exercises results in poor results due to fatigue

    • @slickrick6034
      @slickrick6034 5 лет назад +2

      was that a JoJo reference...

    • @AndrewDaltonHinshaw
      @AndrewDaltonHinshaw 5 лет назад

      Facts

    • @soulreaper1461
      @soulreaper1461 5 лет назад

      @@slickrick6034 MADA MADA MADA MADA MADA MADA MADA MADA MADA MADA MADA MADA MADA MADA MADA MADA MADA MADA

  • @bigjimmyenglish
    @bigjimmyenglish 4 года назад

    I've been away from the channel for a bit, but not the gym. It's nice to get back into your videos again, guys. Some great advice as always.

  • @drpeterk1970
    @drpeterk1970 5 лет назад +1

    Love it. Ive very recently (only a week!) began focusing on intensity in my training rather than volume and im noticing the difference already

  • @ChispyReddit
    @ChispyReddit 5 лет назад +367

    Me: * gains muscle *
    Jeff: GAINING IS KILLING YOUR GAINZ!

  • @FernandesRafael1
    @FernandesRafael1 5 лет назад +93

    Jeff "but we don't wanna do that" cavalier

  • @meyyappanmuthuraman4763
    @meyyappanmuthuraman4763 2 года назад +1

    I never go wrong liking your videos before watching. They are pure gold and thanks for making them.

  • @5050meatloaf
    @5050meatloaf 5 лет назад

    Best video I’ve seen so far!! You nailed it right on the head! I’ve heard you say many times “intensity with a purpose”... I’ve seen more results in past few months using this thought process!! Good job Jeff!! Thanks

  • @sifisopatrick5760
    @sifisopatrick5760 5 лет назад +65

    Let's work smart to get those gains... listen to Jeff, our leader

    • @deb1847
      @deb1847 5 лет назад +8

      Our leader , our Lord , our saviour, our Messiah, our prophet..

    • @user-ch5ij5yd2g
      @user-ch5ij5yd2g 5 лет назад

      internal rotation intensifies

  • @popcmastah1924
    @popcmastah1924 5 лет назад +50

    Will start to sleep more intensely, and cut down on volume, thanks Jeff.

  • @clark_cant
    @clark_cant 5 лет назад +248

    Joe Rogan, get this gentleman on your podcast, man. He has much wisdom to impart. Thank you, sir!

    • @JfaJosephR9
      @JfaJosephR9 4 года назад +7

      This is not Joe Rogans channel Clark

  • @SlavkoPekaric
    @SlavkoPekaric 5 лет назад

    This is one of the better videos from you, kudos Jeff! So much of these group workout programs are out there, all claiming to get you into the best shape of your life, when in fact most of them are sacrificing that intensity which brings real results. A great business solution to grab some $$$ from folks who lack determination to work out.

  • @marrhar502
    @marrhar502 5 лет назад +318

    I'm afraid of working out after watching your videos cus it might kill my gains

    • @danyo5509
      @danyo5509 5 лет назад +34

      I don’t even know what to do anymore

    • @michaelvigato3228
      @michaelvigato3228 5 лет назад +42

      Guess what being afraid is doing to your gains

    • @urmenior
      @urmenior 5 лет назад +3

      We're afraid because we all pictured that "absolute concentric faiure" and felt like only Jeff could do it, because our form breaks down before that point and our reps don't even count before we reach Jeff's ideal failure. That's depressing.

    • @boycie18
      @boycie18 5 лет назад +6

      It's got the the point now where I feel like there's so much science to working out, it's next to impossible not to lose gains...

    • @cesrod5580
      @cesrod5580 5 лет назад

      Idk what you're talking about, ivl had struggles my whole life being a small guy, in 32 years old 2 months ago i was 115 pounds yes believe it or not like I said I have always been small I wasnt even skinny fat just straight out a walking twig, I started watching Jeff's vids 3 months ago and I've gained muscle and definition I am now 125 pounds and I am looking better and better week by week, what he says is true doing to much kills your gains I actually tested this before even watching this video more volume = more resistance not gains or strength it just depends on what you want to work on gains or your bodies resistence to exercise if your body becomes to used to exercises then you lose mass i.e. you will be more cut but at the expense of a bigger body

  • @Geudry
    @Geudry 5 лет назад +60

    Its so crazy how so many people do not realize we got this source of free PT. They be paying for a coach while you can take a few minutes coaching on your phone screen or the pc... Thanks Jeff!

    • @mahmood1431
      @mahmood1431 5 лет назад

      V true

    • @peterjohnson1332
      @peterjohnson1332 5 лет назад +1

      Not true. Alot of people still dont understand how to perform exercises correctly even after watching online content amongst other factors. As a PT that works very hard to deliver a productive workout for my clients i feel im qualified to make such a statement.

  • @arnoldmaklezow9833
    @arnoldmaklezow9833 3 года назад

    Jeff you are such a good trainer, thank you for being in the fitness game

  • @zevul7870
    @zevul7870 Год назад

    Feeling extremely proud being able to reach failure in every single exercise. I'm a true beast. Thanks athlean u still help me so much on my journey!

  • @GoncaloCosta123
    @GoncaloCosta123 5 лет назад +215

    I'm still trying to figure out the meaning of the graph's x coordinate.

    • @beyondover8425
      @beyondover8425 5 лет назад +15

      *Axis

    • @nolanjackson7
      @nolanjackson7 5 лет назад +1

      It’s the number of sets

    • @davidpetr9007
      @davidpetr9007 5 лет назад +34

      Finally someone said. Jeff better start working on those chart gains.

    • @flabio7074
      @flabio7074 5 лет назад +18

      Chart makes no sense

    • @Senninha1960
      @Senninha1960 5 лет назад +30

      The chart has an inbalance

  • @shreyas1690
    @shreyas1690 5 лет назад +694

    Jeff enters:
    Wife and kids: ('.')
    Jeff: *WHAT'S UP GUYS JEFF CAVALIERE **ATHLEAN-X.COM*
    Edit: holy shit thanks for the likes guys..

    • @donkelvino1521
      @donkelvino1521 5 лет назад +3

      Shreyas ! 🤣🤣💀💀

    • @fatimagilani6903
      @fatimagilani6903 5 лет назад +2

      Hahahaha

    • @sonarbuge7958
      @sonarbuge7958 5 лет назад +14

      Shreyas !
      Wow I never seen this comment before wow so funny

    • @jagz02
      @jagz02 5 лет назад +1

      @@sonarbuge7958 wow who gives a shit

    • @TheEntium
      @TheEntium 5 лет назад +1

      You forget his dogs black lab

  • @lernportal1
    @lernportal1 4 года назад +12

    hey Jeff, i am from Germany and Follow you since december 18! Its incredible how much i learned! I Start with 131 kg now at 97 kg! Still long way to go but i think with your help no Problem! Trank you and Jeep going Brother! Cüneyt

    • @Lesserthannone
      @Lesserthannone 4 года назад +1

      Im 138kg I'd love to be below 120kg, congratulations man!

  • @prometheusred6919
    @prometheusred6919 4 года назад

    Thank you sir
    I've been recently thinking about this very topic and then here you are to Save the day!

  • @saurabhskaushik7666
    @saurabhskaushik7666 5 лет назад +282

    Next video:
    The way you pay for your annual gym membership, is killing your gains 😁

  • @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
    @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 5 лет назад +88

    Turning my "volume" to maximum ogredrive helps me lift heavier weights.

  • @codeelite4354
    @codeelite4354 5 лет назад +1

    Love your work brother, inspired me to do what I do online as well. Bless

  • @eduardoalfredocasanovalope991
    @eduardoalfredocasanovalope991 5 лет назад

    Principles of training "Intensity and Volume", apparently it's not in the mainstream but it's been there for decades. Thank you, Jeff, for making this clear to the masses. Cheers!

  • @jbsnyder1736
    @jbsnyder1736 5 лет назад +10

    "You can train long or you can train hard but you can't do both." - Mike Mentzer (a long time ago)

  • @lawrencehenry2529
    @lawrencehenry2529 5 лет назад +6

    I love how Jeff always targets the natural lifter and lays it out so it’s feasible for the average guy to stay in shape. Love your channel and keep up the amazing work 💪🙏

  • @johnlopez4089
    @johnlopez4089 5 лет назад +3

    Nutrition has always been my Achilles heel in training. A video on what exactly to buy at the store would be great. You and Jesse could do a field trip video. That would be AWESOME 👍👍 thank you this video was super helpful!!

  • @NinoGuariscoJR
    @NinoGuariscoJR 5 лет назад

    Excellent lesson. I’ve learned that I’m the only one who can truly know if I’m working all the way to muscular failure. Work in such a way that post workout you can look in the mirror, and honestly say “I gave it all I had to give.” That’s true intensity.

  • @nickbigler5381
    @nickbigler5381 5 лет назад +28

    I hardly recognized Jeff with his shirt on

  • @mewantcool
    @mewantcool 5 лет назад +140

    Next video...
    Nobody:
    Jeff: your existence is killing your gains

  • @RealEstateWithRay
    @RealEstateWithRay 5 лет назад +2

    This has got to be the best and thorough explanation of how to create that muscle growth the right way. Jeff you really deserve twice as many subscribers in my opinion.
    I have the shredz program and fell out. Definitely gotta jump back on and be more consistent

  • @808frontline
    @808frontline 9 месяцев назад +4

    The Mentzer method

  • @tedsommer
    @tedsommer 5 лет назад +9

    Great video Jeff! Only up till 3mo ago, I'd be stuck with bro splits, and doing way too much volume. Now I'm seeing my best results by upping the intensity and focusing on training smarter and crushing goals everyday I'm in the gym. 6 day splits of push/pull/legs (strength) push/pull/legs (hypertrophy) 👍💪

  • @JahsharnExtremeBodyFitness
    @JahsharnExtremeBodyFitness 5 лет назад +4

    Great information! It’s not just about brawn, but also the brains you apply to it. Thank you! This info is doing wonders for my training regime.💪🏾😁👍🏾

  • @piyushdwivedi7195
    @piyushdwivedi7195 4 года назад +29

    Jeff: Your existence is killing your gains!

  • @djkrowa
    @djkrowa Год назад

    Yoo da best!Thank you for your dedication to natural training and promoting health standards!

  • @joshuaalger6030
    @joshuaalger6030 5 лет назад +7

    Everything Jeff says is completely against everything I was ever taught about lifting weights.... and now I'm actually seeing the results that I chased for years and never got. Thanks Jeff!!!

    • @gangsta412
      @gangsta412 5 лет назад

      @Dan Ryan everyone is different. What works for you might not work for anyone else

    • @gangsta412
      @gangsta412 5 лет назад +2

      @Dan Ryan I don't know about you but low fat high carb worked wonders for me. Human physiology is the same for everyone but we are talking about diet here. If your example would be correct then why some of my friends can't eat peanuts due to allergies? Some people are lactose intolerant. Others can't tolerate gluten. As I said everyone is different when it comes to nutrition.

    • @EpicPancakes6
      @EpicPancakes6 5 лет назад +2

      Dan Ryan you're completely wrong. not everyone process food the same exact way, what your way may work for u and other people, there's still people who can get better results by doing something different. don't be ignorant

    • @gangsta412
      @gangsta412 5 лет назад

      @Dan Ryan my stats:weight: 270lbs height :6'3 deadlift 640 squat 630 bench 455. Trained consistently for 15 years, followed Jeff's advice and used the standard high carb high protein low fat. Never touched steroids. I am 35 years old.
      What do you mean by "us"? Are there a group of keto warriors sitting behind the computer waiting to respond?

    • @gangsta412
      @gangsta412 5 лет назад

      @Dan Ryan you are 50 year old and 160lbs? Wow respect to you man. I am not at a low body fat percentage more like 15 to 20 percent. Yeah my goal was not to lose fat but to gain muscle. I never tried keto so i will look into it when I will want to lose weight. Cheers!

  • @ChristopherPennell
    @ChristopherPennell 5 лет назад +5

    I have nothing left to do. Everything is killing my gains

  • @reeeee69558
    @reeeee69558 4 года назад +136

    Nobody:
    Not a soul:
    Jeff: GOING TO THE GYM IS KILLING YOUR GAINS.

    • @iamapokerface8992
      @iamapokerface8992 3 года назад

      ok

    • @vannavanilla
      @vannavanilla 3 года назад

      @@iamapokerface8992 your profile and comment are perfection

    • @dxmxtcy6213
      @dxmxtcy6213 3 года назад

      philosophy of adding something to preExisting as a concept is killng ur Ganja

    • @skyejacques
      @skyejacques 3 года назад

      😂😂😂

  • @ianflanagan209
    @ianflanagan209 5 лет назад +3

    Some workouts rely on volume to be effective though, body weight exercises like push ups, pull ups, step ups, sit ups and chin ups all require high volume to build muscle. The biggest problem with high volume is the time, it takes more time to do more reps. I actually built a fair amount of muscle in my biceps and lats by doing high rep rowing (80 to 100 reps) per set for 4 to 5 sets but I always made sure to do the negative real slow. At the end of each set I would do a 15 second Isometric hold.

  • @diablo2punk
    @diablo2punk 5 лет назад +10

    Just last night when I was working out and thought about volume, this video pops up!

  • @xChikyx
    @xChikyx 5 лет назад +49

    Me: **is broke**
    Jeff: Your poor desicions in economy are killing your gains

  • @kirkholmes11
    @kirkholmes11 3 года назад

    I needed to see this 40 years ago. Thank you. I just recently realized the mistake I've been making. This video makes it crystal clear

  • @mpoole75mp
    @mpoole75mp 3 года назад

    Thanks for this. I have up to now been training 6 times a week, and wondered if i was compensating quality for volume. This video has helped me come to decision that i need to drastically improve imtensity and lessen the training seesions per week. Thanks again.

  • @nevergiveuphardworkmyhppy9785
    @nevergiveuphardworkmyhppy9785 5 лет назад +3

    Natural lifter , that is KEY to this information, great job Jeff

  • @tanmayjoshi1128
    @tanmayjoshi1128 5 лет назад +105

    "JUST NOT ONE OF THE LUCKY RANDOMLY SELECTED WINNERS" squad. Let's go!

    • @phoenixinthetrees1446
      @phoenixinthetrees1446 5 лет назад +1

      EVERY TIME I think I'm going to win, then get that shitty message and end up cursing Jeff and b*tching about it in the comments section. I've been watching his videos for YEARS!!

    • @ninjaslash52_98
      @ninjaslash52_98 5 лет назад +4

      I’m kinda happy I lose otherwise I’m gonna have to work my ass off

    • @eden1865
      @eden1865 5 лет назад

      I end up seeing the same message twice a week. First i see in the notifications Jeff just puts out video of what you're doing wrong now knowing damn well that pinned comment will be there and i hope for just a second i win, then i see the same message twice a week and then i think, damn he got my view, he's a smart fella, or maybe he just wants to see us gainingg

  • @manuelguillen6780
    @manuelguillen6780 3 года назад

    Hi. Thank you very much in deed. You share your professional knowledge true and honestly; which is something we are not used to receive for free. Nowadays, specially in gyms maybe, no one tells you how to get even better than them.
    Bless you, Jeff. World needs more men like you, telling mankind how to improve.

  • @TheSyphel
    @TheSyphel 5 лет назад

    This video really makes me look back at how much failure I've done the whole time, but a lot of the time I go till the weight it self is dropping out of my hands, till my muscles give out without being able to hold it anymore..

  • @soomalainensoomalainen7342
    @soomalainensoomalainen7342 5 лет назад +73

    Me: Jeff, how should I train to get maximal gains?
    Jeff: Yes

    • @quiksilver330
      @quiksilver330 5 лет назад +1

      Soomalainen Soomalainen LMAO 😂

    • @ahmedejaz1125
      @ahmedejaz1125 5 лет назад +2

      Didn't get the joke

    • @TheBANK4I
      @TheBANK4I 5 лет назад +1

      I’ll do you one better, WHO should I train to get maximal gains?

    • @macadamvasquez3971
      @macadamvasquez3971 5 лет назад +1

      st4r-lord I’ll do YOU one better WHY should I be training for maximal gains

    • @TheBANK4I
      @TheBANK4I 5 лет назад +1

      Macadam Vasquez hahahahaha best scene

  • @Pezhman101
    @Pezhman101 5 лет назад +10

    Jeff, it would be best if you give example of volume exercise and intensity exercise to help your followers best to get the best of both techniques?

  • @aamirafridi8855
    @aamirafridi8855 3 года назад

    Nice feed back and information,
    Thanks

  • @dantemorrow3026
    @dantemorrow3026 3 года назад

    Great video! Thanks Jeff 👌🏾

  • @bradley8753
    @bradley8753 5 лет назад +4

    Of course I see this before I go do legs🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ definitely needed to hear this though. Thanks Jeff 💪😎

  • @FranciscoOliveira-bk7cl
    @FranciscoOliveira-bk7cl 5 лет назад +3

    I just clicked before even thinking. Already know the vid is going to be GREAT💪💪

  • @vitaliykalinovskiy8498
    @vitaliykalinovskiy8498 5 лет назад +1

    Well said! Just because volume is increased but intensity is low (poor effort during training), real progress won't be made to better yourself. Bump up the intensity!

  • @seanc465
    @seanc465 5 лет назад

    Jeff, this is the best video you have ever made... and you've had some pretty great videos so that's saying something.

  • @sm0akable
    @sm0akable 5 лет назад +87

    Next Video: Watching my videos is killing your gains!

    • @JorgeMP53
      @JorgeMP53 5 лет назад +18

      Well it could be a topic, since most people tend to only watch the video and do nothing. XD

    • @raidenkeify
      @raidenkeify 5 лет назад +3

      @@JorgeMP53 yeah