Anybody who says baseball is boring must watch this game. It was epic. I’m a Mets fan but I have all the respect in the world for that Astros team. They were tough as hell.
As a lifelong Astros fan (long before the current era BS) who wasn't quite born when this happened, I can tell you I've heard about this game dozens of times growing up...and more specifically that 86 Astros team. What an incredible series!
They'll still call it boring because people who say baseball is boring are only watching baseball from a surface level and just don't get it. A modern day fan might consider this boring too since there isn't a HR every AB and it's old school National league baseball with pitchers hitting and everything. It's a shame what they did to the game.
@@DNSKansas -That year, the Mets seemed to always find a way to win. Considering how they were down 3 games to 2 in the World Series against the Boston Red Sox and trailed 5-3 in Game 6 with 2 outs and nobody on in the bottom of the 10th inning and still came back to win the game and the World Series, I have to believe that the Mets would've found a way to beat Scott. But we'll never know, will we? ⚾
I think the Mets batting avg at the conclusion of this series told the story. It was horrific-a team that only won 108 games was facing the prospect of getting shut down by a guy they let go of...who only won the Cy Young Award. In fairness, the call against them in the 2nd inning of Game 5 cost them a terrific performance by Ryan... Its all history, some really great playin'.
This was the final baseball game (not counting his appearance in the booth for a Mariners-A's game on ESPN as part of their "Living Legends" series back in 2003) that Keith Jackson would ever broadcast. I suppose that if outside of Game 7 of the World Series going into extra innings or a perfect game, Game 6 of the 1986 NLCS is a nice way to wrap that portion of your career on.
@@TMC1982Part2 In 1991 his last college basketball game was an overtime classic between Arizona and Duke, and in 2005 the final game of his career was the Texas-USC epic national championship, one of the greatest college football games ever. The man knew how to make an exit. RIP.
Thank you for showing this. I was at this game, a die hard Met fan, I drove from Tallahassee, Florida to Houston overnight to go to this game. The absolute best game I have ever seen in person. LGM!
I’m a Met fan and as great as Keith was there this guy named Don Mattingly who will forever be the best in my book. Yes I’m a Mets fan... and for me to say that should let you know how great I thought this man played 1st Base in the Bronx.
The 1986 Postseason made me realize at the age of 10 how great Baseball is. Also Keith Jackson and Tim Mccarver before he became a parody of himself is a treat.
I remember the heart break me and my brother always wait til next year I remember the first world series my brother experienced they lost but the first world series that year my brother passed it was a hard year bittersweet. Last year I just couldn't believe it after heart breaks my brother never hot got to see the winning team
You had to have been there. I was working in NYC at the time and people just left their jobs trying to find tv's, radios, something to find what the score and situation was. New York was at a total nervous standstill. One electronics store mustve had like 80 people outside the window. I remember huddling next to about 8 strangers one of whom had a radio near rockefeller center and listened to the final out. The city just erupted. Was like the end of WW2
1986 Mets one of the best come back teams in history!!! They were good players and also fighters !!! Never....never.... gave up !!!! It was in the cards !!!!
Was 12 years old that year. I still remember the postseason from that year like it was yesterday (34 years ago!?!?!?) Best and most exciting baseball I have ever watched for the postseason that year.
I still remember watching this when I got home from school. My dad was on a business trip in Connecticut driving home to Long Island, got home in the 12th, and we were standing up watching the rest of the game in the den until it was finally over. He was listening to the game on the radio from the fifth inning on until he got home, and when the Mets finally won, We were going crazy.
I remember Bob Costas something said when reminiscing about this game on MLB Network back in 2011. Collectively, 1986 may have given us the greatest postseason in MLB history. Of course, there was no divisional series nor wild card back then, but still, you had the ALCS which had among other things, Dave Henderson's home run off of Donnie Moore in Game 5 in Anaheim. Game 6 of the NLCS gave us the 16-inning long epic in Houston. And finally of course, there was Game 6 of the World Series and the Mets' miraculous come back in the bottom of the 10th inning.
@@TMC1982Part2 There were other gems too that get overlooked...I mean Game 4 of the ALCS was an excellent game as well. Games 3 and 5 of the NLCS were absolute gems. Postseason was smaller and more exclusive back then than it is now...but it somehow seemed "bigger". They squeezed a lot into those 3 series
It's interesting how slender baseball players were before steroids, how pitchers could go a whole game , 130 pitches without dying, how stealing bases and bunts were the usual stuff, etc, the game needs to return to the basics.
It was also more diverse and the stealing made the game more fun. Now, thanks to Bill James in part, we see more percentages and defensive shifts, bullpening, four hour 9 INNINGS and way too much analytics. SMH.
Never gonna happen. The game moves too slow compared to other mainstream sports, but home runs are still exciting and marketable. Modern athletes are assets to ownership, and I see it more as wanting your best players to be at their best in the playoffs. It’s not any different from how there have always been guys who are nasty but only offer up 100 innings a year before burning out. Playoff bound teams are more willing to manage that kind of workload and not risk wearing them out. Jake was in the dugout tonight and has his first start in over a year coming against Washington. Fingers crossed he picks up where he left off last year.
When baseball was great! Knepper seemed to throw so effortlessly but was unhittable for 8 innings. What a series! The Mets did not want to face former Met Mike "scuff the ball" Scott
Exactly what was said in interviews many years later with some of the Mets on that 1986 team. And even Mike and the Mad Dog on the FAN as much. If the Mets faced Mike Scott in game 7 that year, they were not winning that series. This game was their game 7.
Was at this game!! This is when I loved baseball going with the pitchers that are pitching well no matter how many innings or pitches they threw, todays game is not the same as the good old days!!
@Brian Ferris yea it's too bad when great performances are forgotten when the team loses. Look at Dave Henderson for the sox that year. The clutch Homer's in the post season & if the Mets didn't make that insane 10th inning comeback that's still hard to believe he had hit that homerun to silence Shea stadium in the top of the 1oth. The sox added another run but then the most improbably comeback w/ 2 outs 2 strikes like 17 times the Mets somehow won & then game 7 seemed to be a formality.
I was a freshman in high school. I vividly remember this was a day game. We watched it during some classes in Houston. I rode the bus home and immediately turned the TV on and made it just in time to see billy hatchers homer. I've never seen the dome go crazy than it did at that moment. Watched the rest of the game and was disappointed in how it ended but I knew then I had witnessed perhaps the greatest baseball game ever
One of the greatest, most meaningful games ever played. I remember thinking as a 14 year old kid- if the Astros can ONLY pull this one out- they probably win with Scott going in game 7.
Bittersweet game as a Astros fan. There are a few what ifs for us. What if Ashby had been able to lay down that bunt for the 4th run? What if Hatcher had Dykstra shaded a few steps over? Who really knows. It was heartbreaking as a 12 year old. But at the end of the day, the Mets had a better team. You don't win 108 games by being lucky.
@@MrBmick79 no he didn't...just one single, and his throws late were erratic. His last at bat had to have been the worst of his career. Swung at 2 bad pitches. I think the one he struck out on might've been called anyway, but my guess Brocklander might not have called it since he was in the hot seat from the day before in NY with Reynolds. We'll never know now.
Absolutely incredible game and series ... Afternoon game I recall, missed a good portion of the game until I arrived to watch at my friend's house. Incredible drama of a baseball game.
remember listening to first half of game on the radio playing wiffle ball after school and watched innings 7-16 with my parents and brothers in our family room while eating a tv dinner. such great memories someone get me a time machine
@@milesian1 Ashby, Houston's backstop, made it known with the pounding of his thigh that he thought it was and should have been called a third strike. Knight, who never took shit from anyone on the field disagreed. Add in the stress of the game, the urgency of the moment - Damn, I would have loved to hear what Knight and Ashby said to each other. "What was the big deal?" Honestly, if you have to ask, I don't think you know this game well.
Brooklyn3955 You can state your opinion without taking a gratuitous shot at me. Ashby must’ve been blind, because that pitch was outside by a wide margin. Knight was probably ticked at Ashby’s theatrics.
I doubt it. They were victims of another hard fought NLCS 6 years prior against the Phillies. They knew it wasn't over until its over. Check out 1980 game 5 NLCS. Probably one of best playoff games played up to that point. Last 4 games (out of 5) went in to extra innings.
@@thesoze1 The 1962 Mets were the Amazin' Mets, as coined by Casey Stengel. 1969 were the Miracle Mets, as you said correctly. And 1986 was the Bad-Ass Mets, as coined by me. 😎
Keith Hernandez calls this the greatest, most tense game he ever played in, and he specifically mentioned that it eclipses the '86 Series, Games 6 and 7.
This series may be the best LCS ever. You'll never see as good of pitching with the shitty game they play today, when starters don't even go past the 6th inning.
Today's pitchers are perfectly capable of going the distance. But if pulling them after 6 increases your chances of winning the game, you have to be a complete idiot to not do it. The purpose is to win, not to impress grouchy old folks like you.
@@Am-Not-Jarvis if a starter's doing well after six, then why take him out for a shitty reliever? You're doing the hitters a favor by bringing in someone who's not as good, and may either not find the strike zone, or otherwise become batting practice. I take it you didn't even watch this game, since you're making such a foolish out of context statement.
It's up there with the best of all time. Astros at the completion of this series participated in what was up to then two of the greatest NLCS ever. Amazing series that'll stand the test of time come a century.
@@LoudPet636 I highly doubt that This pitch count is psychological and stupid. Can you imagine Nolan Ryan with a fucking pitch count. He was still throwing a 90 plus MPH fastball at age 46. Also if you were a coach and Ryan was pitching a shutout and you tried to take him out of a game because he was at 100 pitches, he would literally punch you in the face.
I wish that I could find footage of Mike Scott's postgame interview after Game 6 when he was announced as the 1986 NLCS MVP. Corey McPherrin, who at the time, was the sports director for ABC's flagship affiliate, WABC in New York City, interviewed him.
I wish I could remember more about this series and the WS but I was taking 20 credits in college at the time and barely remember anything outside of my studies.
By far Roger McDowell's best game ever as a Met. As a Met fan watching this game, this was the 7th game of the series to us because there was no way we were beating Scott in game 7. Especially not with Darling facing him, who got roughed up in game 3.
I like that tangent Tim McCarver described decades before the term "walk off victory/hit" was coined. He basically said in Games 3, 4, 5 The Mets hosted the Astros, and the Mets took 2 out of 3, and the kicker: The only time the Mets had ANY kind of lead in 3 home games was a walk off hit: Game 3- tie breaking HR, Game 4-straight up lost to Mike Scott, Game 5-tie breaking double in 12th. All other innings at Shea Stadium, Mets were either trailing, tied or scoreless.
Dude the term 'walk off' literally started not even a couple years later in '88 - not decades after. The first reference to walk-off came in a July 30, 1988, story in the Gannett News Service: "In Dennis Eckersley's colorful vocabulary, a walk-off piece is a home run that wins the game and the pitcher walks off the mound."
The Mets were supposed to have had homefield advantage in this series (it was the East's turn in the rotation) but the Oilers, who shared the Astrodome, had a home game scheduled the weekend of the middle 3 games. The NFL told MLB they couldn't reschedule it because it was an interconference game so MLB reluctantly switched it. Would have been a bigger story had the Astros won the series.
I was a freshman in high school and this game started while we were still in school. I had my parents pick me up so that I could get home sooner and watch the game.
Baseball in the late 70's and 80's were by far some of the most exciting and explosive games that baseball has even seen. Sadly it's been marred by so many accusations of PED's and other "enhancements" or enhancing substances that so many of these iconic player's legacies have been tarnished, trashed, or even erased or an *asterisk * is placed over their accomplishments. This was more prevalent in the 90's than the 80's however. But the 80's had their share of issues. Cocaine was on of the biggest problems for quite a few players. Dwight "Doc" Gooden, Daryl Strawberry, Steve Howe, and others who had brilliant careers, lost so much. With how sad those players became they are still some of the most exciting and amazing players to watch! It also shows that addiction can hit anyone, anywhere, and at anytime!
Mike Darrah actually the World Series won was earned by the Astros. There was no sham about that at all and MLB saw no sham in it either. The only ones who think it is are butthurt yankee and Dodgers fans. Dodgers are simply choke artists as shown by the last 5 years in the playoffs. If that would be the case then the Red Sox winning in 2018 would be also, not to mention the World Series titles won by the Yankees in the late 90’s and forward having been juiced up with steroids and PEDs.
If you haven't seen the Mets 30 For 30 see it. In the fall of '86 I was a college freshman who just owned a moped, no car. Fittingly, in game 6 it rained so hard that I skipped school that day to watch this game. LOL Lenny Dykstra being put into the game in the 9th inning - "Oh, you finally want to f****** win huh?" And of course, the most infamous plane ride ever & Davey's response to the damages - "Rip, rip, ripriprip..." And they were so still so worn out after this game that they slept walked through the 1st 2 games of the WS. And the whole turning point was when Davey gave the team the day off in Boston before game 3 - "I said it's an off day." Ray Knight - "Oh my gosh it was like your daddy saying you don't have to go to school that day it was the best thing ever." And the rest is history... Lenny before game 3 "I gotta hit a home run to change the whole momentum..."
I love Tim M! I probably forgot, but I did not realize that he was also up in the booth back then! I miss “Wooa Nelly” Keith Jackson best their ever was!
Best playoffs from both leagues in '86. It could've gone to any of those 4 teams that year, but the Red Sox and Mets were more clutch this taking it to 7 games.
And you had Al Michaels and Keith Jackson doing play-by-play in the respective LCS, followed by Vin Scully in the WS. Can't do better than that. Classic voices over classic images.
I did not realize Tim McCarver had died until I read this just now. Ironically, he and Gary Carter (2-16-2012) died exactly 11 years apart. May they rest in peace and rise in glory.
the mets, ya either loved em or hated em, and i despised them as a team, always been an Astros fan, this series was heartbreaking in the way it ended but the games were all exciting just the Mets were just a little bit better, of course i didnt wanna believe that then!!
I've heard Ray Knight say that before he went into the batter's box, he looked over his shoulder and asked Davey Johnson, "Do you want me to bunt him over or do you want me to drive him in?" Davey said, "I want you to hit the ball to right field and drive him in.
This is the type of Team and Front Office Management Staff Culture that present Team Owner Steve Cohen needs to look for in the Mets Organization today. The Astros, Braves and Dodgers have this type of gritty and swagger Culture today. Fred Wilpon abandoned this type of Culture after 1986 when he got 88 percent Ownership share of the Team.
they really gutted the heart of the team when they let guys like Mitchell, Dykstra, McDowell, and Aguilera go. Everyone on the team came up clutch in this series. Fast forward to '88, where guys like Magadan, McReynolds, and Kevin Elster never lived up to expectations and the end of careers to Hernandez, Knight and the decline of Wally Backman) was just enough slippage for them not to finish the job in '88. There were so many times both teams could've packed it in this game, and each time, someone came up clutch. What a game, and what a series. Dykstra really was that dude even then...
The Astrodome was another example of engineering hubris over nature. We don't need blue sky, plastic sun roof will do, or natural grass, green plastic shag carpet will be fine. And look what you get; every flyball was an adventure, infielders can't even see grounders. At 3:23 Strawberry almost gets a triple in the 16th while Hatcher, not only can't find the ball, but has to wait for it come down from the 30 ft high concrete bounce to come down. Was a shame these guys had to play in that pinball machine. As unlikely a turnaround as this game was for the Mets, the Billy Bucks game was yet to come.
Honestly, tho, teams that structured themselves to thrive in this environment did so for the most part: Royals, Running Redbirds, and these Astros. Should have won but that flyball in the 16th....live by the sword, die by the sword.
#Sneaky ABC slipping in either the #Astros or #Mets (SportsChannel/HTS) carrier graphics for this game. #MLB May explain the loss of these multcolor Astros unis starting next season (creme road w/same look as their more corporate road unis)😊
@@joeblow6100 hahahaha. I guess you believe David Blain is actually magic. 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Dude shut up... teams create their own circumstances, and sometimes amazing things happen. Destiny is not a thing. It’s the human element of life.
I can be nostalgic for quite a few things but I do NOT miss the days before we had a score bug on the screen at all times. The FOX Box was long, long, LONG overdue when it was introduced in 1994.
I remember being able to only watch part of the game after school. Minnesota has a unique school calendar in that in one week in mid October there is a three day week and no school on Thursday and Friday. This game was played that week and since there is no school Thursday and Friday high school football games are played on Wednesday nights. Since I w as a manager(And we were on the road) I had top go and help get ready so we could go to our football game. However at the time(in a strange situation) you could hear TV Channel. 6 on 87.5 FM(IIRC) and despite not seeing the game I heard the end of the game over the radio via the TV broadcast.
The 1986 New York Mets are one of my favorite teams ever
Mine too.
As time goes by their legend grows
Anybody who says baseball is boring must watch this game. It was epic. I’m a Mets fan but I have all the respect in the world for that Astros team. They were tough as hell.
As a lifelong Astros fan (long before the current era BS) who wasn't quite born when this happened, I can tell you I've heard about this game dozens of times growing up...and more specifically that 86 Astros team. What an incredible series!
The Mets were scared out of their wits about facing Mike Scott in a Game 7. They felt they had to win Game 6 or they were screwed.
They'll still call it boring because people who say baseball is boring are only watching baseball from a surface level and just don't get it. A modern day fan might consider this boring too since there isn't a HR every AB and it's old school National league baseball with pitchers hitting and everything. It's a shame what they did to the game.
@@DNSKansas -That year, the Mets seemed to always find a way to win. Considering how they were down 3 games to 2 in the World Series against the Boston Red Sox and trailed 5-3 in Game 6 with 2 outs and nobody on in the bottom of the 10th inning and still came back to win the game and the World Series, I have to believe that the Mets would've found a way to beat Scott. But we'll never know, will we? ⚾
I think the Mets batting avg at the
conclusion of this series told the
story. It was horrific-a team that only
won 108 games was facing the
prospect of getting shut down by a
guy they let go of...who only won the
Cy Young Award. In fairness, the call
against them in the 2nd inning of
Game 5 cost them a terrific
performance by Ryan...
Its all history, some
really great playin'.
Let's not forget the inimitable voice of the late, great Keith Jackson.
This was the final baseball game (not counting his appearance in the booth for a Mariners-A's game on ESPN as part of their "Living Legends" series back in 2003) that Keith Jackson would ever broadcast. I suppose that if outside of Game 7 of the World Series going into extra innings or a perfect game, Game 6 of the 1986 NLCS is a nice way to wrap that portion of your career on.
Yeah it was. As far as college football, in my opinion he’s the G.O.A.T.
@@TMC1982Part2 In 1991 his last college basketball game was an overtime classic between Arizona and Duke, and in 2005 the final game of his career was the Texas-USC epic national championship, one of the greatest college football games ever. The man knew how to make an exit. RIP.
RIP Gary Carter what an awesome player! and the captain of the infamous 1986 team...
That would actually be Keith Hernandez. Gary wasn't exactly Mr. Popular with the team this year.
He was co-captain with Hernandez.
He was an Expo.
Neither Hernandez or Carter were Captain of the Mets in 86. Hernandez was named the first captain in Mets history, and Carter followed a year later.
Keith Jackson and Tim McCarver R.I.P
Thank you for showing this. I was at this game, a die hard Met fan, I drove from Tallahassee, Florida to Houston overnight to go to this game. The absolute best game I have ever seen in person. LGM!
Wow awesome
Keith Hernandez is still the best fielding first baseman to ever play the game.
Hernandez SHOULD be in the HOF, AND Garvey too, just goes to show that MLB is just as political as the outside World...
Yes Hernandez was great especially defensively, but you should look up a guy named George Sisler.
I’m a Met fan and as great as Keith was there this guy named Don Mattingly who will forever be the best in my book. Yes I’m a Mets fan... and for me to say that should let you know how great I thought this man played 1st Base in the Bronx.
I hated the Mets back then but yes he was a slick fielder
What about Bill Buckner?
The 1986 Postseason made me realize at the age of 10 how great Baseball is. Also Keith Jackson and Tim Mccarver before he became a parody of himself is a treat.
McCarver is terrific. Zero shots of the broadcast booth. Never happen today.
And now watching this in 2023 I realized how much damage Manfred has done to this game
Ask Deion about McCarver 🤣
I remember the heart break me and my brother always wait til next year I remember the first world series my brother experienced they lost but the first world series that year my brother passed it was a hard year bittersweet. Last year I just couldn't believe it after heart breaks my brother never hot got to see the winning team
You had to have been there. I was working in NYC at the time and people just left their jobs trying to find tv's, radios, something to find what the score and situation was. New York was at a total nervous standstill. One electronics store mustve had like 80 people outside the window. I remember huddling next to about 8 strangers one of whom had a radio near rockefeller center and listened to the final out. The city just erupted. Was like the end of WW2
Yea, they showed something like that on the 30 for 30 documentary on the Mets.
It will NEVER be like that again in the city in terms of baseball in NYC - EVER!
The mighty Mets played like warriors not only with the Astros, but with the Red Sox as well They proved to the world they were a hell of a team.
As talented as any team that ever won it all.
1986 Mets one of the best come back teams in history!!! They were good players and also fighters !!! Never....never.... gave up !!!! It was in the cards !!!!
They had over 40 come from behind wins that year - out of 108 wins. That's insane.
Was 12 years old that year. I still remember the postseason from that year like it was yesterday (34 years ago!?!?!?) Best and most exciting baseball I have ever watched for the postseason that year.
Your comment is exactly like me to a T, :).
I was here. Drove 10hrs. from FSU. LGM
I was about to turn 12 years old at the time
I still remember watching this when I got home from school. My dad was on a business trip in Connecticut driving home to Long Island, got home in the 12th, and we were standing up watching the rest of the game in the den until it was finally over. He was listening to the game on the radio from the fifth inning on until he got home, and when the Mets finally won, We were going crazy.
3:34:50 The Mets managed to stayed awake all right. Stories of The flight back to NY after this game are legendary.
I LOVE this old classic games. this series was straight up the best/classic.
The two 1962 NL expansion teams squared off in the NLCS that year. Ironically, Yogi Berra was a coach with the Astros.
That whole NLCS was great
I remember Bob Costas something said when reminiscing about this game on MLB Network back in 2011. Collectively, 1986 may have given us the greatest postseason in MLB history. Of course, there was no divisional series nor wild card back then, but still, you had the ALCS which had among other things, Dave Henderson's home run off of Donnie Moore in Game 5 in Anaheim. Game 6 of the NLCS gave us the 16-inning long epic in Houston. And finally of course, there was Game 6 of the World Series and the Mets' miraculous come back in the bottom of the 10th inning.
@@TMC1982Part2 There were other gems too that get overlooked...I mean Game 4 of the ALCS was an excellent game as well. Games 3 and 5 of the NLCS were absolute gems. Postseason was smaller and more exclusive back then than it is now...but it somehow seemed "bigger". They squeezed a lot into those 3 series
It's interesting how slender baseball players were before steroids, how pitchers could go a whole game , 130 pitches without dying, how stealing bases and bunts were the usual stuff, etc, the game needs to return to the basics.
I enjoyed baseball much more back then
*that you knew about steroids*
Yeah, instead they had amphetamines.
It was also more diverse and the stealing made the game more fun. Now, thanks to Bill James in part, we see more percentages and defensive shifts, bullpening, four hour 9 INNINGS and way too much analytics. SMH.
Never gonna happen. The game moves too slow compared to other mainstream sports, but home runs are still exciting and marketable.
Modern athletes are assets to ownership, and I see it more as wanting your best players to be at their best in the playoffs. It’s not any different from how there have always been guys who are nasty but only offer up 100 innings a year before burning out. Playoff bound teams are more willing to manage that kind of workload and not risk wearing them out.
Jake was in the dugout tonight and has his first start in over a year coming against Washington. Fingers crossed he picks up where he left off last year.
When baseball was great! Knepper seemed to throw so effortlessly but was unhittable for 8 innings. What a series! The Mets did not want to face former Met Mike "scuff the ball" Scott
Exactly what was said in interviews many years later with some of the Mets on that 1986 team. And even Mike and the Mad Dog on the FAN as much. If the Mets faced Mike Scott in game 7 that year, they were not winning that series. This game was their game 7.
@@dannyboy34677yep they were NOT beating "the scuffer"
Omg! Finally after years, this game gets posted in its entirety! Yes! Thank you!!
One of the all time great NLCS games.
I love baseball.
How could you not love baseball after watching this? Unfortunately today's game is no where near this quality.
Was at this game!! This is when I loved baseball going with the pitchers that are pitching well no matter how many innings or pitches they threw, todays game is not the same as the good old days!!
Me too. I drove from FSU to Houston. My brother was going to U of H and got tickets. Best game I ever attended.
Haha yeah but it was kind of a mistake! Should've taken Knepper out after 8.
@@gailjay5133 No Knepper should have started the 9th! Plus the Mets have had success against Smith!
Knepper only gave up 2 hits and no runs going into the 9th inning.
3:03:12 One of the most dramatic homers in postseason history
One of the greatest forgotten clutch homers ever
@Brian Ferris yea it's too bad when great performances are forgotten when the team loses. Look at Dave Henderson for the sox that year. The clutch Homer's in the post season & if the Mets didn't make that insane 10th inning comeback that's still hard to believe he had hit that homerun to silence Shea stadium in the top of the 1oth. The sox added another run but then the most improbably comeback w/ 2 outs 2 strikes like 17 times the Mets somehow won & then game 7 seemed to be a formality.
Hatcher's home run was so dope!
Hatcher's home run was the first run given up by a Mets reliever in that series. Orosco gave up 3 runs overall.
If only social media - and with it, footage of the Mets’ flight back to New York - existed in 1986...
That was the original "Plane Ride from Hell", not the one involving WWE in 2002.
As Lenny Dykstra would say. The 1993 Phillies were more fun. 😉
@@charliebobandas6794And couldn't win the big one
I was a freshman in high school. I vividly remember this was a day game. We watched it during some classes in Houston. I rode the bus home and immediately turned the TV on and made it just in time to see billy hatchers homer. I've never seen the dome go crazy than it did at that moment. Watched the rest of the game and was disappointed in how it ended but I knew then I had witnessed perhaps the greatest baseball game ever
this just might have been the greatest baseball game ever played.
could be so
One of the greatest, most meaningful games ever played. I remember thinking as a 14 year old kid- if the Astros can ONLY pull this one out- they probably win with Scott going in game 7.
I wish they did, so that the Mets could beat Mike Scott in game 7!
@@watchmanschannelofdespair mets were not beating scott
@@watchmanschannelofdespair 🤣
@@watchmanschannelofdespair Scott would have beaten the Mets for a third time in the series.
As a Mets fan, that fear loomed since game 5. That's why it was so important to win game 5 so it decreased the chance a bit of facing Scott in game 7.
Bittersweet game as a Astros fan. There are a few what ifs for us. What if Ashby had been able to lay down that bunt for the 4th run? What if Hatcher had Dykstra shaded a few steps over? Who really knows. It was heartbreaking as a 12 year old. But at the end of the day, the Mets had a better team. You don't win 108 games by being lucky.
What if Kevin bass never swung the bat for the final out? He would've walked. He was vulnerable to breaking pitches throughout the series.
If, could , should etc . no dice
@@johnnyg2049 Bass did not have a good game that day on the field or in the box
@@MrBmick79 no he didn't...just one single, and his throws late were erratic. His last at bat had to have been the worst of his career. Swung at 2 bad pitches. I think the one he struck out on might've been called anyway, but my guess Brocklander might not have called it since he was in the hot seat from the day before in NY with Reynolds. We'll never know now.
@jlh4jclet's let's be honest tho the Mets were the luckiest even like 90-win team ever let alone.at their level 🙄🤣
Wow the Astros were good I'm so proud of my 2022 championship world series
Absolutely incredible game and series ... Afternoon game I recall, missed a good portion of the game until I arrived to watch at my friend's house. Incredible drama of a baseball game.
IIRC it was a 3 PM ET start for the broadcast
WOW!!!...As a Mets fan, everytime i watch this game i still get excited and nervous, even knowing the happy outcome!
1986 was a fun year! ⚾️
This game is criminally underrated! Should be up there with World Series Game 6.
Can't party in the clubhouse for too long, boys ... you've got a plane to destroy 🤣
Plus you have to practice social distancing
Ninth inning starts at 1:25:25 if anyone comes looking for it.
Ive been watching MLB since 1961. This was the MOST exciting game I have ever seen!!! (PS Im a Mets fan)
remember listening to first half of game on the radio playing wiffle ball after school and watched innings 7-16 with my parents and brothers in our family room while eating a tv dinner. such great memories someone get me a time machine
Knepper looked suicidally despondent at the beginning of the bottom half of the 9th. Wow.
The 1 and 2 pitch to Knight has the tension of a knot of war to it. Amazing - 1:45:51
What was the big deal? That pitch was clearly outside.
@@milesian1 Ashby, Houston's backstop, made it known with the pounding of his thigh that he thought it was and should have been called a third strike. Knight, who never took shit from anyone on the field disagreed. Add in the stress of the game, the urgency of the moment - Damn, I would have loved to hear what Knight and Ashby said to each other. "What was the big deal?" Honestly, if you have to ask, I don't think you know this game well.
Brooklyn3955 You can state your opinion without taking a gratuitous shot at me.
Ashby must’ve been blind, because that pitch was outside by a wide margin. Knight was probably ticked at Ashby’s theatrics.
@@milesian1 You know what? You're right. My apologies. Seriously.
Amazing Mets #1986
Astros had no idea this was the end for them against the Amazins!
I doubt it. They were victims of another hard fought NLCS 6 years prior against the Phillies. They knew it wasn't over until its over. Check out 1980 game 5 NLCS. Probably one of best playoff games played up to that point. Last 4 games (out of 5) went in to extra innings.
@Will Pfeiffer wrong! Miracle Mets were 1969, the also went by Amazins and that became their nickname
@@thesoze1
The 1962 Mets were the Amazin' Mets, as coined by Casey Stengel.
1969 were the Miracle Mets, as you said correctly.
And 1986 was the Bad-Ass Mets, as coined by me. 😎
Also the end of the amazins because the dodgers in ‘88 put them away 😢
Here after 30 for 30 Once Upon A Time in Queens. I have to relive this.
Same.
Keith Hernandez calls this the greatest, most tense game he ever played in, and he specifically mentioned that it eclipses the '86 Series, Games 6 and 7.
wow!
I remember watching this game like it was yesterday. It started here in NY at 3pm. I went home early from jr. High school 😂😂
I was in 9th grade as well, in a super crummy town in Eastern Oregon and I remember how exciting it was. Then the awesome World Series...
3:56:25, baby face Lenny Dykstra, he even sounds like a kid talking. He was clutch this while post season.
me thinks Lenny may have gotten a lil bump of snow before this interview......dude had drainage face going
This series may be the best LCS ever. You'll never see as good of pitching with the shitty game they play today, when starters don't even go past the 6th inning.
Today's pitchers are perfectly capable of going the distance. But if pulling them after 6 increases your chances of winning the game, you have to be a complete idiot to not do it. The purpose is to win, not to impress grouchy old folks like you.
@@Am-Not-Jarvis if a starter's doing well after six, then why take him out for a shitty reliever? You're doing the hitters a favor by bringing in someone who's not as good, and may either not find the strike zone, or otherwise become batting practice. I take it you didn't even watch this game, since you're making such a foolish out of context statement.
It's up there with the best of all time. Astros at the completion of this series participated in what was up to then two of the greatest NLCS ever. Amazing series that'll stand the test of time come a century.
@@Am-Not-Jarvis Ha Ha, todays pitchers are wussies.
@@LoudPet636 I highly doubt that
This pitch count is psychological and stupid. Can you imagine Nolan Ryan with a fucking pitch count. He was still throwing a 90 plus MPH fastball at age 46. Also if you were a coach and Ryan was pitching a shutout and you tried to take him out of a game because he was at 100 pitches, he would literally punch you in the face.
greatest game no one talks about
That's all I talk about. I was there as a Met fan!
I wish that I could find footage of Mike Scott's postgame interview after Game 6 when he was announced as the 1986 NLCS MVP. Corey McPherrin, who at the time, was the sports director for ABC's flagship affiliate, WABC in New York City, interviewed him.
I wish I could remember more about this series and the WS but I was taking 20 credits in college at the time and barely remember anything outside of my studies.
The most incredible baseball game ever played
By far Roger McDowell's best game ever as a Met. As a Met fan watching this game, this was the 7th game of the series to us because there was no way we were beating Scott in game 7. Especially not with Darling facing him, who got roughed up in game 3.
one of the umpires stole a Met hat during the celebration. I wonder how much he got for it
Good eye and nice call, that's exactly what happened
Quite simply the greatest baseball game ever played.
I'm proud to say as a Met fan, I Was There!
I like that tangent Tim McCarver described decades before the term "walk off victory/hit" was coined. He basically said in Games 3, 4, 5 The Mets hosted the Astros, and the Mets took 2 out of 3, and the kicker: The only time the Mets had ANY kind of lead in 3 home games was a walk off hit: Game 3- tie breaking HR, Game 4-straight up lost to Mike Scott, Game 5-tie breaking double in 12th. All other innings at Shea Stadium, Mets were either trailing, tied or scoreless.
Dude the term 'walk off' literally started not even a couple years later in '88 - not decades after. The first reference to walk-off came in a July 30, 1988, story in the Gannett News Service:
"In Dennis Eckersley's colorful vocabulary, a walk-off piece is a home run that wins the game and the pitcher walks off the mound."
The Mets were supposed to have had homefield advantage in this series (it was the East's turn in the rotation) but the Oilers, who shared the Astrodome, had a home game scheduled the weekend of the middle 3 games. The NFL told MLB they couldn't reschedule it because it was an interconference game so MLB reluctantly switched it. Would have been a bigger story had the Astros won the series.
I was a freshman in high school and this game started while we were still in school. I had my parents pick me up so that I could get home sooner and watch the game.
At 3:03:11 you can hear 2 bangs
Famous 1986 team greatest game I’ve seen, along with Sox vs reds game6
Greatest game I ever saw and I've seen plenty
Baseball in the late 70's and 80's were by far some of the most exciting and explosive games that baseball has even seen. Sadly it's been marred by so many accusations of PED's and other "enhancements" or enhancing substances that so many of these iconic player's legacies have been tarnished, trashed, or even erased or an *asterisk * is placed over their accomplishments. This was more prevalent in the 90's than the 80's however. But the 80's had their share of issues. Cocaine was on of the biggest problems for quite a few players. Dwight "Doc" Gooden, Daryl Strawberry, Steve Howe, and others who had brilliant careers, lost so much. With how sad those players became they are still some of the most exciting and amazing players to watch! It also shows that addiction can hit anyone, anywhere, and at anytime!
I became a mets fan that year and also an idiot instead if improving my life i lived in watching the mets improve
🤣🤣🤣
This was a fantastic game. The Astros were world famous for playing great in playoffs but always coming up short. Finally in 2017 their luck changed.
Recent developments point to the 2017 success being at least partly a sham, which is very sad.
Mike Darrah actually the World Series won was earned by the Astros. There was no sham about that at all and MLB saw no sham in it either. The only ones who think it is are butthurt yankee and Dodgers fans. Dodgers are simply choke artists as shown by the last 5 years in the playoffs. If that would be the case then the Red Sox winning in 2018 would be also, not to mention the World Series titles won by the Yankees in the late 90’s and forward having been juiced up with steroids and PEDs.
My favorite parts to watch:
0:00 - 33:27
41:37 - 44:11
49:12 - 56:20
1:02:23 - 1:07:13
1:12:14 - 1:58:09
2:03:06 - 2:23:25
2:28:11 - 2:37:41
2:49:27 - 3:08:08
3:21:45 - 3:52:06
I Was Driving running Errands listening to this on the Radio
If you haven't seen the Mets 30 For 30 see it. In the fall of '86 I was a college freshman who just owned a moped, no car. Fittingly, in game 6 it rained so hard that I skipped school that day to watch this game. LOL Lenny Dykstra being put into the game in the 9th inning - "Oh, you finally want to f****** win huh?" And of course, the most infamous plane ride ever & Davey's response to the damages - "Rip, rip, ripriprip..." And they were so still so worn out after this game that they slept walked through the 1st 2 games of the WS. And the whole turning point was when Davey gave the team the day off in Boston before game 3 - "I said it's an off day." Ray Knight - "Oh my gosh it was like your daddy saying you don't have to go to school that day it was the best thing ever." And the rest is history... Lenny before game 3 "I gotta hit a home run to change the whole momentum..."
I love Tim M! I probably forgot, but I did not realize that he was also up in the booth back then! I miss “Wooa Nelly” Keith Jackson best their ever was!
Epic series. I want Houston Vs Mets WS!
Best playoffs from both leagues in '86. It could've gone to any of those 4 teams that year, but the Red Sox and Mets were more clutch this taking it to 7 games.
And you had Al Michaels and Keith Jackson doing play-by-play in the respective LCS, followed by Vin Scully in the WS. Can't do better than that. Classic voices over classic images.
And man the Angels messed up.
3:01:58 That's me holding the sign in the right hand corner "Amazin's Believe in Casey" A.B.C.
1:25:28 start of the 9th
Len Dykstra huge hit in the 9th. Just HUGE
I Was Driving listening to this Game on Long Island
Classic game
The Mighty 1986 Mets champions of the under dog.
RIP Keith Jackson & Tim McCarver Mets: Gary Carter, First Base Coach Bill Robinson & Pitching Coach Mel Stottlemyre.
I did not realize Tim McCarver had died until I read this just now. Ironically, he and Gary Carter (2-16-2012) died exactly 11 years apart. May they rest in peace and rise in glory.
the mets, ya either loved em or hated em, and i despised them as a team, always been an Astros fan, this series was heartbreaking in the way it ended but the games were all exciting just the Mets were just a little bit better, of course i didnt wanna believe that then!!
"The greatest game I ever played in."~Keith Hernandez
I've heard Ray Knight say that before he went into the batter's box, he looked over his shoulder and asked Davey Johnson, "Do you want me to bunt him over or do you want me to drive him in?" Davey said, "I want you to hit the ball to right field and drive him in.
What a pitching performance by Knepper. He pitched two terrific games and got no decisions in both and the Astros lost both.
3:58:59 closing the 1986 NLCS broadcast with a GTA: Vice City song FTW.
This was a much greater game six then the 1986 World Series game six
3:34:00 and awake they were alright! . .. anf quite relaxed
This is the type of Team and Front Office Management Staff Culture that present Team Owner Steve Cohen needs to look for in the Mets Organization today. The Astros, Braves and Dodgers have this type of gritty and swagger Culture today. Fred Wilpon abandoned this type of Culture after 1986 when he got 88 percent Ownership share of the Team.
they really gutted the heart of the team when they let guys like Mitchell, Dykstra, McDowell, and Aguilera go. Everyone on the team came up clutch in this series. Fast forward to '88, where guys like Magadan, McReynolds, and Kevin Elster never lived up to expectations and the end of careers to Hernandez, Knight and the decline of Wally Backman) was just enough slippage for them not to finish the job in '88. There were so many times both teams could've packed it in this game, and each time, someone came up clutch. What a game, and what a series. Dykstra really was that dude even then...
The Astrodome was another example of engineering hubris over nature. We don't need blue sky, plastic sun roof will do, or natural grass, green plastic shag carpet will be fine. And look what you get; every flyball was an adventure, infielders can't even see grounders. At 3:23 Strawberry almost gets a triple in the 16th while Hatcher, not only can't find the ball, but has to wait for it come down from the 30 ft high concrete bounce to come down. Was a shame these guys had to play in that pinball machine. As unlikely a turnaround as this game was for the Mets, the Billy Bucks game was yet to come.
Honestly, tho, teams that structured themselves to thrive in this environment did so for the most part: Royals, Running Redbirds, and these Astros. Should have won but that flyball in the 16th....live by the sword, die by the sword.
Knepper was left in too long. Today, the closer comes in for 9th, Astros probably win.
3:21:46 16th Inning
Imagine if one of the players was playing blind and they had a way to whistle around the fact
#Sneaky ABC slipping in either the #Astros or #Mets (SportsChannel/HTS) carrier graphics for this game. #MLB May explain the loss of these multcolor Astros unis starting next season (creme road w/same look as their more corporate road unis)😊
Wow Keith Jackson was so bummed when the Mets won this game lol
1:26:30 i think this at bat was when the team truly knew that they were destiny's darling and would not die
Destiny doesn’t exist
@@charliebobandas6794 you must be so much fun at parties.
@@joeblow6100 hahahaha. I guess you believe David Blain is actually magic. 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Dude shut up... teams create their own circumstances, and sometimes amazing things happen. Destiny is not a thing. It’s the human element of life.
Mostly disagree, one can only control what they can
This set forth a very dark and bad time. Damn them!
Wow, this ump Brockman was calling a strike zone the size of a Wendy's burger patty.
Those two strikes to Knight were not even close.
Am I supposed to guess the score?
No, you're supposed to pay attention. ;-P
Pssht... Millenial lol
I can be nostalgic for quite a few things but I do NOT miss the days before we had a score bug on the screen at all times. The FOX Box was long, long, LONG overdue when it was introduced in 1994.
Astros fan here: Worst postseason loss in our history and we've had a bunch of them.
I remember being able to only watch part of the game after school. Minnesota has a unique school calendar in that in one week in mid October there is a three day week and no school on Thursday and Friday. This game was played that week and since there is no school Thursday and Friday high school football games are played on Wednesday nights. Since I w as a manager(And we were on the road) I had top go and help get ready so we could go to our football game. However at the time(in a strange situation) you could hear TV Channel. 6 on 87.5 FM(IIRC) and despite not seeing the game I heard the end of the game over the radio via the TV broadcast.
3:53:28 IS THAT JAY HORWITZ??!!??
Tu Maldita Madre yep
1986: When the Mets and Astros went Mano a Mano. The days before the Astros resorted to banging the trash cans.
Key to this game: hit it to Hatcher
we will see a rematch this year 2022 .. this time for all of it