Valve's Greatest Failure
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- At this point, calling Artifact a dead game would be disrespectful to dead games.
Defense of the Ancients, Counter-Strike 1.6 and StarCraft: Brood War are "dead" games, and there are still thousands of people around the world who play them every day.
Artifact is beyond dead.
But what happened?
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I queued into the same guy 4 times in a row before I realized we were the only players active in my region late at night.
Needless to say , I never played the game again
Legend says the other player is still queueing and waiting for you. 😔😔😔
Idiots Everywhere that made me sad 😔
@@idiotseverywhere3950 awwwwww
@@idiotseverywhere3950 that's just sad when you think about it i hope they at least added each others as friends
i wonder what its like to need other people to like a game for you to like it. sounds like shit
First time I hear from Artifact again ever since its announcement.
yep
saw the announcement and never cared about it
Impossible, did you miss the clown fiesta that it was its game section in twitch a few weeks ago?
@@seifeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee completely
first time I heard about the game XD
Lucky... I wish I didn't have to spend anymore brainpower remembering the clown fiesta that was Artifact.
Artifact is true to its name: it belongs in a museum
"You belong in a museum!" Sorry, I shouldn't bring a guy from another moba here...
it belongs under the ground dude
@@ryotanada i heard that somewhere on a stream, a LoL character name ezrial and a pro player named imaqtpie playing it
Just checked it, he is called ezreal, a ranged carry
Yeah, the trash museum.
The best card in artifact is the credit card.
Underrated comment. Up you go
$50 in hearthstone will buy u a bunch of garbage you probably don't want. $50 in Artifact will buy all the cards you want. People who say they haven't spent money on hearthstone are lying.
Ah.. this exact comment's always present when Artifact is mentioned.
mtg arena required $0 for me to get the deck i want and is free-to-play. that's why i didnt play artifact
@@headless4441 MTG arena is by far one of the easiest card games to earn cards in, and you are the first person to mention it in relation to Artifact (that I have seen). I fully agree with you that MTG Arenas scheme to get cards is better for most players. I disagree that hearthstone is though, I specifically call bullshit on people praising hearthstone.
''Their only failure '''
what about cs condition zero, and the steam machine?
ricochet?
There was never any reason to play cz so i guess thats why it "failed". Rn still has 10x more players than artifact
Omfg CZ, and I hated that the models would transfer and overwrite the 1.6 skins when you installed CZ.. There was a download to get the default skins back on 1.6 but that shit was still annoying
@@tonyoliveira8605 Yea I think they released it at the same time as Source. Maybe that was the mistake.
@@cheisz5094 Yup
Valve tried to bring a buy-in product to a free to play market. That’s why it failed. It’s that simple. Moreover, it’s really hard to watch because of the 3 lane system.
I mean if you would have unlocked all cards, it would not been a problem. But the moment i heard you have to pay for the game and than still pay to get cards, I never looked at the game again.
if it was free to play even with buying card packs it would have done a million times better
another problem is its theme. The game was highly strategic and played more like chess then other card games. A game made to be skill based but without proper ranking system is kinda stupid and it certainly isn't casual. Unlike in hearthstone or magic, I felt like I had to work for my wins, every game was close and even though that sounds good, it simply isnt for the market artifact was targeting.
@@peterbergeon2526 in other words, it's truly more competitive compared to Dota 2 which is more casual more than anything.
Elder Scrolls Legends has 3 Lanes. It's still relatively successful.
3 weeks later... Valve releases the TF2 summer update which killed the TF2 economy with a 100% unusual unbox rate bug...
they are pretty much willing to kill a game if they can squeeze out more money
Disappointing
For some reason I never heard about this game, until people joked about it beeing dead
Lol same.
I also don't.
Yep samd but that's because i was still lil kid and was curious why gamers back then were basically memeing valve like crazy about HF 3 lol
Valve: So we have Dota 2. A huge financial success that's just a free to play game with cosmetics and some more cosmetics.
Everyone: YES!
Pay to play*
Auto chess is garbage
Don't forget the Dota Plus assistant to buy you into a better queue and amateur tournaments on your level, calling it just free to play with cosmetics and some more cosmetics ain't true anymore
@@wootywooter5652 indeed, but at least it is available for everyone.
Exactly like how can they be this stupid
My friend convinced me to buy this game right after it came out as I was looking for another card game to break-away from Hearthstone. Man was I dissapointed
sounds like quite the friend
You could give Shadowverse a try. It's similar to Hearthstone but featuring less RNG and being much more explosive.
@@darebrained It's still RNG heavy, i loved the game but that turn order advantage... they never fixed in all the months i got back to see how it was going. IDK if they fixed it now, but a extra evolution point just for going second it's too big of a deal.
Gwent: the Witcher card game or Thronebreaker: the Witcher tales?
Try Faeria and you won't be disappointed, never
Value's greatest failure is not releasing half life 3. Second to that gabe's gut @ 5:05
Yeah, how do you follow up one of the most-lauded games of all time, that you left hanging on a _colossal_ cliffhanger? If you're Valve, you just don't bother, because it's easier making money off Steam sales and TF2 and Counterstrike loot crates. And Gaben really needs to eat a salad, or at least wear a longer shirt.
"Let's launch a card game in a market already saturated by card games"
Best decision since blizzard decided to do a moba to compete with LoL and DOTA
Are we throwing shade at Sakura clicker my guy that ain’t cool
Still waiting for a louder moan mod
@@eidolon6638 Why would you care about that of all things?
@@eidolon6638 says the guy who plays fortnite omegaLUL
@@eidolon6638 dont @ me if you play fortnite kiddo.
@@eidolon6638 says the guy who plays fortnite omegaLUL. Not anime pic, happy?
How can u even make 10 mins vid on artifact lul
use clips half the time ^^
@@ChristianBondeHansen Same clips*
Was literally "Artifact is dead" paraphrased for 10 minutes.
money
10 mins was ofc the lifespan of the game
Thousands of man hours of dev time and probably hundreds of thousand of dollars spent on Artifact. Dead on arrival.
10 dudes and no budget on DotA Underlords - 100 000 players daily.
I really feel that if Artifact was free to play, it would have been a massive hit
One slight change is maybe all it need
If it ever goes F2P I’d absolutely try it!
F2P, all cards free, money through cosmetics for cards/boards. Instant success
@@Videogamer96_ cosmetics for cards? Who would buy that? No, just like hearthstone: free to play, grind to get new cards, and if you don't want to grind, pay.
@@evoluxman9935 People said the same thing about Dota 2 when it launched as a F2P moba that didn't charge for heroes. Cosmetics _do_ work.
Though like you said, will people really want to buy card cosmetics? If were basing this question off how Valve monetization systems worked in previous titles (buying keys to unlock crates/chest) I'd say probably not. Though instead of crates, if it were multiple cosmetics that you can earn in a progressively upgrading Battle Pass, that would be different. Fortnite/Dota 2 showed the success of battle passes and how they can be easy moneymaker through just selling cosmetics. Making the game free/all the cards free and implementing a battle pass system like that would cause the player numbers to skyrocket
Its simple. Valved tried to be EA and got what EA received 😌
Nope the opposite.
EA is notorious for loot boxes, in artifact you can drop some money on it and get exactly the cards you want. Much EA, such scam.
@@ratdoto2148 Valve invented lootboxes. Before TF2 and CS:GO only obscure chinese slotmachine games had this type of crap.
@@brandulak Yes but valves loot boxes contain mostly marketable content which is A LOT better. I'm not saying it's perfect but it's a good balance.
EA=BAD
this was all a plan to lower the expectations for a good Valve game thus lowering the hl3 hype.
8/8 joke GIGAlul
hl3 meme never die
No need to lower the hype for something that won't be released
Nobody talks about HL3 anymore. Hardly anyone cares anymore. Because they know it won’t happen.
@@somberlain8987 yes its working, thats the spirit
For me Artifact was a huge success. I spent $100 in Beta and sold all cards right at launch.
Made $300.
Little did the people know who bought Axe for $35. lol
"Their only failure"
CS Condition Zero
SteamOS
Steam Machines
Team Fortress 2 Meet your Match Update
And who can forget, Ricochet
Ricochet was never really ment to be a super succsesfull game like cs, hl, tf2 ect. It was more of a lan party game to just have fun with some friends late at night or smth.
Condition Zero is not valve's work. Valve only touched a little on that. The SP campaign was great too and it has a kind of Turtle Rock style of storyline.
Ricochet is dope
Alien Swarm
Raphael Monteiro Alien Swarm is a free game lol (and not made by Valve)
Release a cardgame non-free2play whilst every other cardgame is. thats how it died.
It also tried to actually make a story for Dota 2 with a pretty unique world...but we will never see it go through
But never forget the AYAYAYAYAYAYAYA streams
I heard that they are planning to make a Sequel of Artifact..
Yea you heard it.. *A FUCKING SEQUEL*
It's here, boys. The game is finally dead for good.
and Swim is now one of the biggest Legends of Runeterra stream
I thought that the artifact logo was the blast logo and I got confused lol
Maybe they should do events to push your steam profile
The worst part is that before realizing how bag the game is you actually tried to play it after buying it so you have around 3 or 4 hours and when you realize that you want your money back, guess what? CAN'T REFUND SHIT IF YOU HAVE OVER 2 HOURS OF PLAYTIME
When all of my friends told me that valve was releasing a new game I was excited as hell, but then it was just another stupid card game
I always hoped Artifact would fail so hard, Valve would start making games again. One can dream...
If anything this just reinforces the idea that they shouldn't to them. Why risk failures like this when they can ride steam forever?
Kind of an immature outlook considering Dota 2 is a bigger success/moneymaker than a new Half-Life would ever be
You really think they would write a good game in 2019? Times changed, deal with it
@@skillo6399vote with the wallet. Force them to write it. I know this is 4 years old, but now we have Elden Ring and Baulders. 😂
I doubt 1.6 is a dead game, it's a classic, and will always be played
are you joking?
now autochess has as many versions as artifact players😂😂
Its not even included on the valves "Complete" package on steam lol
"It's they're only failure"
_Ricochet 2 slowly backs away_
Saying that "Artifact annoucing a 1M torunament was groundbreaking" is misguided since Shadowverse alerady was doing it even in 2018.
The main problem is that they marketed it as a more serious competitive game as opposed to very casual games (Hearthstone).
Problem is, the game is objectively too much of an RNG fest. Understandably card draw, that is fine, but the fact that creeps spawn randomly (made worse by the fact that some cards rely heavily on creeps) and some heroes have coin flip mechanics (bounty hunter has 50% chance of being either useless or strong and tidehunter... well, I've seen tidehunter stun more than 17 units) made the RNG fest too bad.
On top of that the game is E X P E N S I V E as fuck. You need to buy the game, need to buy cards and if it had lived longer you had to keep pouring in money to stay with the meta. But because the player pool was doomed to be small the competitive scene was doomed as well.
I honestly tried to play this game seriously and was very good, for as far as that is possible with the RNG, but this game was simply doomed by greed...
this game was simply doomed by greed... I totally agree with that.
Yup people like the blame it solely on the payment model and marketing that ruined this great game. But in reality is just is not a good game with some very frustrating mechanics and focused on a non existing niche (complex, rng heavy, math based card game really is a hard sell)
A few other things: the big 1 million tournament was for me and i'm sure many others, a proper look at the game. I was excited to finally see some mechanics and how the game works, yet they NEVER tried to explain it even once. They just talked about complicated plays that the whole twitch chat would just spam 'how does this game work' or 'i am a doggie'. Making it closed beta so that no players can get any real hype, then not telling them anything about the game, hiding the economy until the last minute, it's hard to see how they weren't expecting a massive failure.
Too late for the TCG-party. Too late (and too terrible) for the battle royale party.
Earlier Valve loved making games, now they love making money, that is the downfall of Artifact.
Unpleasantly true
Dota: Try our new card game
No one liked that.
League: Try our new autochess game
Everyone liked that
After Riot released Legends of Runeterra card game this video really aged well.
Cue in crate depression of 2019.
Gaben only cares about money, you can tell by this years battlepass for dota
you cant grind to get lvls and theres ZERO rewards in the lower lvls
even the weekend bundle was expensive AF
Lol im lvl 174 now. I only bought lvl 1. Git gud son
@@ZALYVES stfu liar, you obviosly bought the weekend sale
IT IS MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO GET TO 174 FROM LVL 1 , WITHOUT THE MORO KAI AND TI PREDICTIONS
@@noobplays8832 yes he's just obviously lying rofl
@@noobplays8832 um no, it is possible. Quests and wagers gets me like 3 levels per game. I only bought the standard edition and now I'm level 140. Granted I did play regularly since it's release. But yeah this year's battle pass is disappointing comparing to the previous ones. We can't even get levels from recycling treasures
@@tsozohoshi6182 3 levels per game? what are you smoking? that is 3000 points, weekly challenge gives you 400 points, daily hero gives you 100 points and weekly wager gives you 2000 points IF you win every wager
To be honest if Valve made the game $5 and didn't cost you money for tickets... and fixed a few minor issues, the game would have probably been very popular.
9:51 I really like these motion graphics
Richard Garfield?! Is he the one with “The Magic: The Gathering” Richard Garfield?
Yup.
I really hope that they do fix this game, it seems like there were a lot of people who really cared and that it had at least some potential to be a good game...
Seeing it fail just makes me sad...
Just the fact that they revealed Artifact instead of HL3 was a killer
"valves greatest failure" Ricochet would like a word
Artifact is a failure while Dota Underlords is still in open beta and it peaked at 200k total players
You should do The Story of Dafran next
LETS GO DUUUUDE
an xqc for people who dont like xqc ;D
@@StonedSpagooter Dafran really is more charismatic though
All it would take is making it f2p and advertising it on the steam store to revive it
this guys hiding his receding hairline WeirdChamp
I just wanna play that Vampire Savior cabinet.
FeelsGoodMan watching movies and TV with friends on Twitch
I c bajs forsen1
co oh forsen1 I C
I streamed hentai, raw gachi and who killed captain alex. 7 days ban on loli hentai and perma ban on gachi and captain alex, twitch is a joke LMAO
@@HenriqueRJchiki what r u implying
@@henrybottomsworth they banned my dummy account that streamed hardcore loli hentai for o only 7 days and the other two dummy accounts that streamed gachi and who killed captain alex were perma banned, this makes no sense it's almost as if its completely random. TF blade got banned for 30 days for SUPPOSEDLY saying the N word and loli hentai for 7 days? LMAO
"Only failure" - ricochet smiling
They could have just waited for modders to create a game for them again but they didn't. But that's basically what happened when Dota Auto Chess was conceived. Now it's its own genre. Dota Underlords poggers!
In the age of streaming, Valve released the least-watchable digital card game of all time, and I include the extremely-dated MTGO in that. Spreading the action over 3 screens is honestly one of the most baffling design decisions I've ever seen. Compared to the streamlined, clear and stylish Hearthstone, Artifact is inscrutable and clunky.
In the age of free to play, Valve released a game that not only charged you to buy it in the first place but also for every single card and pack you'd ever open. All these Hearthstone players who need to be enticed to leave their collections behind, and Valve decided to charge them to even try it out. All these Hearthstone players who're hooked on daily quests and rewards, and Valve decided to have absolutely no progression or rewards system.
In the age of constant updates, and meltdowns from the community if balance changes aren't made, Valve released a digital card game pretending to be a paper card game - no balance changes ever. And to make matters worse, they then reneged on that promise not to mess with people's cards when it became clear that no-balance-updates wasn't a viable strategy. Valve somehow managed to get the worst of both worlds.
Artifact: I'm the Greatest Game In Valve. 🍼
Dota Underworld: Hold My Beer. 🍺
I will never forget that one guy who said he was quitting Hearthstone to stream Artifact full time.
Shoutout to my boi swim. Such a handsome unit.
Honestly, this is the first time I’ve even heard of Artifact hahaha.
Artifact is an actual artifact. When aliens come to earth , they will point down at a disc of this game and sum it up with a few simple words : " Ah yes , ancient human history"
You included exactly the right peoples opinion on the game, which is mogwai, swim, SuperJJ and freddy and savjz. Crazy how this Channel allways gets it right.
Buy to play in the "Expert League" only works when the game is out for a LONG time and there is demand. If Valve did that for CSGO, right now, people would jump on it.
Artifact: a pay-to-pay game
"Greatest failure"
No, Half Life 2 Episode 3 is their greatest failure, Gabe Newell said it himself
Then you have steam machines, big picture mode, early access/greenlight, and zero curation of what gets on steam.
One card game cashgrab isn't a big failure.
Beard Hat Cs: go nuff said only lasted 2012 to 2014
Hey value it’s helps to keep updating your date or your player base will leave
0:25 The burn is real.
What does my grandpa and Artifact have in common? They're both dead
Nymn appeared on this channel before Forsen.
More like "the only week Twitch was ever entertaining", amirite?
We loved you Artifact Section BibleThump
0:17 is basically me when I start from intensity 5.0 in Smash Ultimate.
Artifact: Pay to Play, pay to win. More complicated then other games but complicated doesnt automaticaly mean good / better .. especialy when its full of RNG. Why Play that game? Correct - there is absolutely no freakin reason. Games look was cool but besides that its garbage.
How was the RNG made in the game? Just pure "deal damage to random target" kinda stuff or could players have manipulated the RNG like in magic the most cases? Of course there also is 'always' RNG in card games in the form of drawing cards.
As a longtime DOTA2 player I really love the UI, art style and music of Artifact, it's just feels so delicate, hope valve can fix it.
That weird feeling when you see a video about artifact, think "Oh yeaaaaah i forgot about this game" and then read the title
The moment you price a game that steep and put microtransaction in a pay to play game puts a nail to a coffin.
I spend so much money on this game only to quit like 2 weeks later LUL
A Valve TCG could never fail, I thought. PepeLaugh
Artifact is garbage 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 gaben cries
Valve's Greatest Failure 2.0 incoming
valve has a lot more fuck ups than just artifact
Make a video about underlords when it dies a year later, mobile first game design I think was a mistake. The game already has nearly no attention compared to tft and I don't think it will get any better.
I'd give it 2 months, TFT pretty much has a monopoly on the autobattler genre.
Well, no. The fact that it is on mobile is what makes me like it more. Autochess is nothing but a sidegame for me, and the terrible unit pathing, random afk of champs and clearly defined meta is what will make me like Dota Underlords more. The one thing I can give TFT is the item combinations, but what Dota is gonna do regarding that after adding more items remains to be seen so I won't really form an opinion on that
One year? It's already almost dead. TFT in beta state has 110k twitch viewers. And it is just a game mode. Underlord has around 10k viewers. Valve "copy popular game" worked once. But after years of battle passes and cosmetics they can't make games anymore. Who would've thought.
@@Skorpyotnt you should also know that league has many more viewers/players compared to dota which effects their viewer count for tft and underlord.
PS. Tft is worlds better, it does need more content though
Another game dying, time for Splatoon 2 to take over the eSport scene
Did not expect to see AYAYA in here...
LMAO THAT SWIM CLIP (glad that swimmy boi is finding success with underlords though. such a pleasure to watch his videos and streams)
unreal we havent got left for dead 3.......nobody wanted a crappy card game
You want L4D3, I'm still waiting for HL3.
What do you mean greatest failure?!?! The game has atleast 20 viewers on twitch LUL
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Wherein their other games has fans and players for almost a decade. Compared to those games, Artifact's a huge failure.
Ronix /whoosh
The game isn’t even a corpse anymore. Its skeletal remains have already pressurized into fossil fuel.
PVC FOR SURVIVAL SITUATIONS, LET'S CHECK IT OUT
should have made counter strike 2, tf3 or lfd 3 or literally any other game.
I was mildly interested in another card game until I saw it was pay-to-play then swore it off. I also never played/cared about Dota so double the reason not to care. The Twitch porn stuff was pretty hilarious though.
When the fuck did I start becoming a repeated viewer of this channel. This YT acct was made in 2006 and I have exquisite taste and algorithm. Consider yourselves lucky.
"it's their ONLY failure"
lmao no, they've had plenty of failures, they just learned from those ones
I still like it :(
Still waiting for the big update they promised
Valve time LUL, after 5 years maybe!
So this guy still works for the channel even after that laughable video with the OK symbol?
Even the gods itself says "ITS GARBAGE"
Singsing responded to that donation question 100% ironically.
Sometimes i visit Artifact's Reddit sub and see people actively waiting for any updates on their beloved game. Yes, there are still enthusiastic people playing or at least hoping for Artifact/Valve to release an update about their game. I hope the Artifact community get some updates from Valve and its devs.. if Artifact still have devs.
-im not a fan of Artifact, i just feel sorry for the Artifact community.
Damn thats was so riddiculist how the crowd was so disapointed about artifact
Considering what Valve is like nowadays, Artifact is 100% fitting.
Biggest reason it failed was the $20 admission fee when There were plenty of other free digital card games already in the market. Second, the microtransaction heavy nature of the game didn't do it any favors. People don't want to feel they have to put down even more money just to stay competitive. It was highly noticeable Valve was much too greedy with this product.