Hungary's Orbán blackmailed the EU - and it worked.
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- Опубликовано: 15 дек 2023
- In this video, we delve into the escalating tensions between Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban and the European Union, a saga marked by deepening rifts and strategic maneuvers. At the heart of this conflict are two critical decisions regarding Ukraine: the initiation of EU accession talks and a substantial €50 billion support package. Amidst these pivotal developments, Hungary, under Orban's leadership, has adopted a tough stance, persistently threatening to wield its veto power to obstruct these initiatives. Our exploration will unravel the complex events of the past month, providing a comprehensive understanding of the current state of affairs in this ongoing geopolitical drama.
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Let's be clear about the EU-Hungarian debate. Did the union take out a loan to cover the post-Covid economic downturn? YES. Did the member states, including Hungary, participate in this as debtors? YES. Was the distribution of the loan subject to conditions in the case of other countries? NO. Poland was also blackmailed by the union because there was also a patriotic government. Now that there was a change of government there, everything is forgiven for the Poles.
The other countries also received the money. In the case of Hungary, the loan taken by the country was tied to false and extortionate conditions. Despite this, the Hungarians tried to fulfill all conditions. This was also accepted by the leadership of the union, which is why the committee authorized the payment of 10 billion with great difficulty but still, because there was nothing else they could do. On this the EU-Parlament contested this and yesterday sued the Commission for how they dared to give money to Hungary.
But that's not enough. This week it was announced that Hungary will not receive the remaining 20 billion at all, because the Hungarian laws do not allow minors (school children and kindergarteners in preschool age) to be educated in an LGBTQ-spirit. The Hungarians said that they are in no way willing to change their position on this issue, even if they even if they don't get their due money.
and that is good. no country should allow alphabet people brainwash
Actually the EU had blackmailed Hungary by withholding fnds for years....
When a country joins the EU they agree to the basics of democracy and the rule of law. Hungary changed many rules/laws within the country, so EU had no choice but wit-hold the funds for Hungary. It’s not blackmail, it’s just common sense
@@heb-agar6119 ALL rules Hungary had introduced were based on some other EU country's legislation - this nonsens about"rule of law" is purely political blackmailing.
@@peterbalogh8138 No buddy, there are countless cases of EU funds being used to prop up a nepotistic system of corruption within Hungary. All enabled by a flawed judicial system.
@@heb-agar6119 Would you mind to list a few legislation which were not in line with the EU? I would love to see your insight. On the other hand Ukraine has a legislation, which is actively blocking minorities to use their mother tongues in public places including schools. Do you get that? That is the definition of denying basic human rights, yet people like you are happy. I wonder why.
@@nyali2 “In its decisions of 22 December 2022, adopting Hungary's Cohesion Policy, Maritime and Fisheries funds, and Home Affairs funds, the Commission considered that Hungary did not fulfil the horizontal enabling condition on the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights because of several concerns, including on judicial independence.” You can find the exact points on eu lex. I never mentioned Ukraine but you think If I am against Orbán getting back the EU fund, then I must be pro Ukraine, but you are greatly mistaken. I can disagree on both subjects and make my own conclusions and not get brainwashed by Orbán’s media empire. And I know exactly how you think because I come from the same country as you Nyali. This propaganda only makes you assume people and their thinking, that they must be stupid liberals instead of actually understanding wtf the other people is talking about. Open your eyes
I am from hungary. This video miss many inmoprtant informationto the topic. For example how the EU is bitching about the founding in the last years. I think if Orban is just play the same dirty game what the EU started with the blocking of the founding.
Talking about corruption :
"The fish alwys stinks becouse of the head"
I don't thing EU was right. It only made Orban aware that this method works and he will likely use it again.
Yeah. They will keep doing it seeing that they can just blackmail the rest of us
bro these things are normal, this is just very visable.. look into the topic before you talk lib
@@bjarkerugsted7539 is normalnfor a minority of 10 milion people to keep the rest of over 300 milion people on hold because they are some rightoids that can't even have a free press?
That video is full of lies.
@@Thedrunkenpartisanoh boy it is “ 50 billion military aid” when it’s actually 50 billion economic aid “blackmail by Hungary” when its EU blackmailing and bribing Hungary. It’s always good to see what news channels to ignore bc they just full of Bullshit.
Le a haboruval! Le az emberirtassal! Békét, Békét!
❤ Peace would be nice.
Ez pont olyan, mintha az utcán egy rablótámadás szemtanújaként azt kiáltoznád, hogy le a bűnözéssel. Ez nem békevágy, hanem cinkosság Oroszországgal.
@@offbeat65 A fegyverküldések nélkül már rég nem lenne háború, ezért a te oldalad a cinkos emberek százezreinek értelmetlen pusztulásában, hogy végül ugyanaz legyen a végeredmény, csak sokkal később, és sokkal több koporsó árán. (persze jó pénzért adogatják el főnökeid a fegyvereiket az ukiknak), ahogy cinkosok vagytok abban is, hogy 50 milliárd euronkat kidobjátok az ablakon, aminek 90%-a amerikai vállalatokhoz kerül, akik majd újraépíthetik a sivár pusztasággá vált Ukrajnát, a maradék pedig elolvad az ukrán korrupcióban.
@@offbeat65 Szóval, ha valaki békét szeretne, az rögtön cinkos Oroszországgal. Ez nem cinkosság, hanem az EU kifacsart logikája. (Az USA parancsára.)
Mialatt fújtpk mindenkire, aki békét szeretne és bőszen támogattok egy latorállamot, nem veszitek észre, hogy az amerikaiak gyarmatot csinálnak Európából.
It's more interesting why Germany, France and Austria vote for Ukraine while polls show that their population is against Ukraine joining the EU.
Not sure their population is against Ukraine’s accession negotiations though
Comrades, Ukraine will join the EU, because their citizens want to be a part of developed free world. Which polls are you referring to? Big majority of EU citizens is welcoming Ukraine, except maybe some of the farmers that fear for their grain prices.
@@quentinstyger747 no. Gas and petrol
@@MotoRide. yes. So is it
@@quentinstyger747 that one comment toxic be like :)
I'm from Hungary and I do think you misundestand this case. The Commission asked Orbán for a juidicial reform, where the Commission dictated what they would like to see in the juidical system. In May Fidesz (ruling party) did implement most of the laws he was asked but not everything. The Commission said they liked the efforts but they weren't going to give money until all of these reform suggestions weren't accepted. Fidesz didn't do anything until november when they made some more changes but the last things were on the Parlament's table on 12th of December (!), so the Commission unfroze the funds the following day. To sum up, in silence Orbán did everything the EU asked but they made it look like Fidesz blackmailed the Commission.
Érdekes.
Interesting. I hope that you are right. Because I really dislike the idea of EU agreeing on this type of blackmails.
Really?
thank you for the explanation.
The problem, that the very same EC was begging Orbán to sign the joint EU loan ("Next Gen EU") for which he finally agreed, with the notion that this sum - which came with every member state's guaranteeing to cover defaulting member(s), ie. if Italy default, Hungarian taxpayers have to give in part of Italy's debt - so this common loan SHOULD NOT BE tied to "rule of law" and "human right" issues, because THOSE ARE SUBJECTIVE.
The EU paid 10 million euros for the right to speak with Ukraine, and not even the right to send the aid package. This makes the EU look weak, and presents a path of action other malefactors within the EU to take in the future.
First of all, that is still speculation, secondly it's 10 billions, not millions. If the EU gave in to blackmail this would allow for further blackmail, I'd assume the EU leaders are smarter than that. Also there is serious risk to the EU losing authenticity and trust internationally.
It makes the EU Commission look weak, the European Parliament has wanted to get much tougher on Hungary for quite some time now.
All this is showing is a high level of incompetents on the EU Commission part, the more you give in to Hungary, the more they'll come back for more, sometimes you have to put your foot down and get tough, Hungary are embarrassing the EU Commission and considering it's one of the unelected parts of the EU, it doesn't look good for them and it's a clear indicator that we need reforms with more powers going to the European Parliament which seems to care more about the interest of the EU unlike the EU Commission that keeps appeasing, seriously, what does the EU Commission expect to happen? Hungary is going to keep coming back for more because they see the EU as being weak thanks to the Commission.
As for Hungary, I think the EU needs to kick them out one way or the other, the public in the country have had more than enough chances to kick Orban out, so they are part of the blame and because they don't want a change in government, I see little option but to find a way to kick Hungary out, they are not compatible with EU and European ideals and seem more interesting in Putin's interest.
I'm very pro EU but even the EU is testing my faith in them with how weak they are with countries like Hungary and if the EU isn't careful, they are going to lose a lot of credibility with the public which could damage the EU project, but seriously, it seems like the European Parliament is the only creditable insinuation, the rest seem to want to appease.
Hungary is Putin's Trojan Horse
@@paul1979uk2000 Paul , you are sitting on the horse upside down! The Hungarians fought a lot for their rights and freedom against the Mongol Empire, the Ottoman-Turkish Empire, the Habsburg Empire, the Russian Empire and the Soviet Empire. So the Hungarians do not need the hypocritical, lying, conceited elite of the colonial countries to tell them what is right and what is wrong. Besides, Orbán was elected by the Hungarians, Orbán represents the interests of the Hungarians. This is called democracy.
@@jozsefvadon3086 If Hungary dislikes the EU so much, why have they not done their "Brexit" yet? Nobody is keeping them in if they want to be outside the EU. Orban loves the EU because he knows he can play the game of blackmail to look "strong", that is his whole platform really - not to build something together like others are trying to do.
Money wasted on the war while many people dying for no reason!!!!!
No reason? Fighting for independence and motherland is no reason? People wanna save their language, culture, and history.
Hungary talked with the EU about his judicial reform, and changed several laws to fulfill all the EU expectations. That's why the 10 bn liberated. This mean the EU blackmail works. So not Orbán blackmailed the EU, but oppositely. So you dont need any Article 7, when they have other scenarios, to reach their goal. The EU goal is the rule of law in each country. And Hungary steped ahead on this line. Meantine Hungary have private policy, when he not agree with all decisions of the Committee. But this alone no reason to punish a country.
thats rubbish and a LIE he changed nothing, IM HUNGARIAN he is still as corrupt as he was O1G MOCSKOS HAZUK ORBÁN ÉS FIDESZ CSÓTÁNY
it's your right to have your own opinion! but, you are very wrong. I'm a political refugee , liver in Transkilhen Austria, live in USA for 44 years. I know what I'm talking. My whole family was destroy by the Communist system. Sad story, I don't like to talk about. History was mos loved subject. To bad, America did not teach History of his own Country. Embarassing, many of them can't even read the Map, but never stop talking about Ukraine? with out knowing this Country's Nazi History., Real killer Nazi of Banderas, taking them to Ukraine , Kaliningrad, changing their uniforms in Ukraina soldiers. Many-many more!!!!
@@lisaisabella182 : Having lived in the USA for 44 years, how can you have any idea of what is happening in Hungary now, (reading media with political lies?) and having no idea why you are making political speculations ( you know what you are talking about, following a 44-year-old experience-situation? - are you serious? )
@@szaboattila844
You ask me, how I know what is happening in Hungary after 44 years living in USA? First: I can’t live without knowing what is happening around me and the World. Even living in a communist
Country I was listening Free Europe. Here in USA , I have East European channel. So I’m up to date what is happening around the World. I don’t listen all the lies and BS on CNN, don’t watch TV which never say what is happening here in USA , how can I expect them to
say what is happening around the world. For Americans it is enough to listen the CNN, MSNBC, what they are saying is their need. Actually they don’t care. They were brainwashed that it is enough to born in USA,you are ready intelligent.the reality is , because of the educational system they are undereducated. They are not reached their History so how they will know the World History? They can’t read the Map and they talk about Ukraine never hear about her existence! No matter what Country or Nation, I respect the government who love who they are and will never bend their head saying the old way: “ the sword will not cut the bended head”! it was translated, maybe I’m English sounds different.
I am not a Hungarian, but i have 2 EU citizenships and i voted for the governments which will not throw the our money for my children's future in to the trashcan!
Umm... That 10 million was paid because the Hungarian govt. did the reforms the EU asked. If it was paid as leverage that would prove ORban right that the EU is infact corrupt...
Wie stellen Sie sich Ursula von der Pfizer als korrupt vor? Er hat mir gerade eigenhändig eine SMS. geschrieben.
How do you imagine Ursula von der Pfizer to be corrupt? He just texted me with his own hand.
EU denying development funds to a member to provide military fund to third party and fill pockets of war business… ya I stand for Hungary .
Sorry, but your logic really sucks. Do you want to know why?
Victor Orban also threatened Bulgaria not to impose an additional fee on Russian gas. Otherwise, Hungary will veto Bulgaria's accession in the Schengen area.
It seems he figure out, how the EU really works.
Bulgaria is a pathetic country that is trying to vain to gain more weight in international politics.
He does well Orban!!
It is not a threat. Bulgaria definitely won't join Schengen area if weaponises gas transit fees on gas.
In the start of the war and everybody bought LNG gas, Croatia put a fee on its pipelines so Hungary could buy LNG 5 times more expensive as a landlocked country, now Bulgaria put a 3x fee on All the gas trade (not just the russian gas) where Hungary got its own. What a frendly neighborhood huh? Orban should have just accept that they are choked economically by their “allies”
"Very likely" sounds like a lot of speculation. Giving in to blackmail will not strengthen the EU's position on Ukraine.
We should kick out Hungary of the EU. The country gives nothing in return for all the money they get, except troubles.
They can join the Russian Federation or the UK, if they want to join something.
@@raahauge Imagine the implications that move will create. Same one that would arise if a country was to be kicked from NATO alliance as well.
What about your brexit!! You had the same issues with the Eu when your in, had t you!! are your criticals no more revelant or is it because Hungary is a small country that you the assert Hungary is blackmailing : the brits were in the same mess before brexiting!!! so keep quiet with false assertions
@@raahaugeyou don t contribute either dear sir!! you are gaming like American agents carrying their interests and fooling the" rest " bad news it does t work anymore!!!
@@raahaugeReally you're gonna kick out every country who exercises the legal right to vote how they like.? The rules were not set by Hungary,they were set by the unelected bureaucrats from Brussel.You don't dictate how the EU members vote, you are not in STALIN. USSR yet.The vote is supposed to be secret in this way you will see a lot of VETO s from all hypocrites who have no guts to be honest.
The problem, that the very same EC was begging Orbán to sign the joint EU loan ("Next Gen EU") for which he finally agreed, with the notion that this sum - which came with every member state's guaranteeing to cover defaulting member(s), ie. if Italy default, Hungarian taxpayers have to give in part of Italy's debt - so this common loan SHOULD NOT BE tied to "rule of law" and "human right" issues, because THOSE ARE SUBJECTIVE.
So, since the EU was trying to blackmail Hungary via funds several times, let them taste their own medicine.
How do you call, a loan which you have to pay; but never got the loan?! (Just to mention, it was lastly used in the Soviet Union)
Smart move on the E.U.’s part. Smart move on Orban’s part too.
Full of lies. 0:33 lie. He voted with abstention and after went out. 2:13 Hungary received 10 billion euros because it implemented 17+24 reforms in the past 2 years, in the area of anti-corruption measures and judicial reform. And in December 2022 and September 2023, the EU commission accepted the answers. That is why Hungary received 10 billion euros. Orbán voted with abstetnion because the other 26 leaders told him: Later, the Hungarian parliament can vote down Ukraine's EU accession, but now everyone wants to give Ukraine's EU accession negotiations, thus giving them spiritual strength for the war. There is no coincidence here, you are just ignorant. 3:11Amnesty International - ridiculous. The brother of the head of Amnesty International is now being investigated in Hungary on charges of massive account fraud. 3:40 Lie again. The EU Commission is much stricter with Hungary than with other countries. Ukraine met 3 out of 7 conditions for accession. The EU does not follow its own rules while it steals the Hungarians' money. Abolishing the unanimous vote requires changing the contracts. That requires a unanimous vote. Not only Orbán or 9 countries oppose it. Thanks for the video. As a Hungarian, I am relieved that the media situation in the West is still much worse than in Hungary. Nobody cares if Austria vetoes alone. You are quite racist with the Hungarians, but we are used to it.
Orban loves the EU really, and the EU loves Orban really.
CONGRATULATION!!!! PROUD WHO YOU ARE!PROUD FOR STANDING UP FOR YOUR COUNTRY, FOR YOUR PEOPLE!
Well done Orban ! Because of him, all politics in the EU can see the veto is a really bad thing ! 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🤣
It's a feature not a bug. There are pros and cons to Veto system.
@@timetraveler_0 there are no pros. 30 different members with different interests will never meet a deal. This leads to a zero control over EU as a whole. And eventually generates only one more buracratic and useless organization as UN without any real leverages over it's members
@@timetraveler_0 Absolutely a bug. There is genuinely no real benefit of having it. You can argue that you need a massive majority and that's completely fine. I agree with that position. The issue is that it's not realistic to convince everyone in a very large system. It wouldn't even work on a national level.
As a Pole I 100% support Ukraine EU aspirations. I also see a need for EU to reform in some aspects. That beeing said I am 100% against removing veto from foreign policy. It is simply imposible that Poland will have same opinion on foreign policy twards Russia as for example Germany. Just look at the history of Polish-German-Russian relations (4 partitions, what if AFD or other simmilar party take power in GE and there is no veto in foreign policy ?)
@@xxxyyy5080 so you think that having the Germany veto
all polish requests is a good idea?
Well, everyone is entitled to his own opinion. But I must admit that I'm surprised.
EU voting Reform makes no sense.
Orban did not change his mind, the position of Hungary is unchanged about its neighboring countries EU accession plans. He simply abstained the vote. (North Macedonia changed its name, don't you think they should be first integrated to EU, before new talks begin with any other countries?)
Officially Hungary did not get the funds yet, but in the past 2 years they did all legal changes in Hungary wanted from EU to comply all their "rules". EU blackmailed Hungary.
The EU didn't blackmailed Hungary, when Hungary joined the EU the country accepted to fullfill certain conditions. But when Orban decided to throw those conditions out the window the EU frozed the money. It's simple if you are in the EU play according the rules of the EU, and if you don't want to than leave.
thats a LIE WE HUNGARIANS HAVENT CHANGED ORBAN IS LYING AS HE ALWAYS DO not all of us Hungarians are traitors who can be bought the FIDESZ AND ORBÁN must be punished
@@russianboogeyman544 the game of the EU has rules that only comply if you play int he same political team. Once you have a different opinion as the leftist mainstream in Brussels, you are becoming a black sheep. This is highly violating the principles of "old-greek style" democracy.
You might aswell start the talks to prepare Ukraine because, maybe Orban will die some day and Hungary might become a half decent country, but i wont hold my breath on either.
Also the EU is not black mailing anyone. All individual countries dont like that Hungary isnt following the rules they accepted when they joined. I dont want my money going to Hungary, and I prefer even tougher sanctions.
It would be very difficult, if not impossible, for Ukraine to meet the requirements for EU membership at present, but opening talks with Ukraine may be a smart move by the EU as it expresses support for a united Europe, which Putin doesn't want to hear as Russia is endlessly trying to split European opinion over the war in Ukraine.
Ukraine already has completed 90% of the required reforms
@stupidburp This is not true, 3 of 7 requirements are still not fulfilled. This double standard weakens the EU seriosity.
So... You think that a NEUTRAL Ukraine is a danger to the EU??? At the beginning of this conflict, that is all Russia wanted. EU and NATO had other ideas..
@@sandormolnar19687/1
So fucking funny to hear this, when Ukraine literally defends in a war to be European, like no other EU country ever did.
All while corrupt Hungary blackmails EU and sponsors russian terrorism apparently "meets the requirements".
What a pile of nonsense
Eu shouln't try to black mail Hungary in the first place
A group of EU MPs blackmails the head of the EU Comission not to let pay the money, which has been allocated to Hungary in the budget of the EU. Orban did only respond to this.
To be fair, main reason why he didn't vote to block accessions is becasue that means little in the long run. Just look at Turkey for the example, they got that in 2005 and they are still outside the block. Ukraine and Moldova might start the talks but they can last decades at the least. And if they are accepted in a few years that will make a strong case for Western Balkan countries Serbia and Kosovo to be accepted immediately as well as territorial issues is the only thing holding them back.
firstly, there are problems with authoritarianism in Turkey, and secondly, they themselves do not want to join, unlike Ukraine and Moldova
@@user-vm6lr9hu4o I also mentioned western balkan countries. If Ukraine and Moldova get into EU before them it will kill the last pro-EU support left in western Balkan countrues wanting to join as they have been waiting for 10+ years now.
@@user-vm6lr9hu4oUkraine and Moldavia don't have authoritarian issues?They don't have a territorial dispute? What a hypocrisy.
@@2SSSR2 as? on the contrary, it should give them motivation that they can enter the EU not in a few decades, but much faster if they themselves want it
@@belaadorian3370 and where are Ukraine and Moldova authoritarian? name at least a few proofs of this, and what are their territorial disputes? when Ukraine ends the horde in the east, it will have no one to encroach on its territory, and the defeat of muscovy automatically withdraws support from the illegal republic of Transnistria, and Moldova returns its territories
Orban is totally right. This is money the EU ows to Hungary
Reminds me of how Nicaragua blackmailed Taiwan in 2020. When unsuccessful, it switched to claiming “Taiwan is a part of PRC” then cashing money from China and getting one million Sinovac vaccines for free.
Discovering the contradictions in political reality, Hungary has taken the role of deterrence against World War III in Europe, acting on the basis of intellect and conscience of a Christian nation.
0:33 lie. He voted with abstention and after went out. 2:13 Hungary received 10 billion euros because it implemented 17+24 reforms in the past 2 years, in the area of anti-corruption measures and judicial reform. And in December 2022 and September 2023, the EU commission accepted the answers. That is why Hungary received 10 billion euros. Orbán voted with abstetnion because the other 26 leaders told him: Later, the Hungarian parliament can vote down Ukraine's EU accession, but now everyone wants to give Ukraine's EU accession negotiations, thus giving them spiritual strength for the war. There is no coincidence here, you are just ignorant. 3:11Amnesty International - ridiculous. The brother of the head of Amnesty International is now being investigated in Hungary on charges of massive account fraud. 3:40 Lie again. The EU Commission is much stricter with Hungary than with other countries. Ukraine met 3 out of 7 conditions for accession. The EU does not follow its own rules while it steals the Hungarians' money. Abolishing the unanimous vote requires changing the contracts. That requires a unanimous vote. Not only Orbán or 9 countries oppose it. Thanks for the video. As a Hungarian, I am relieved that the media situation in the West is still much worse than in Hungary. Nobody cares if Austria vetoes alone. You are quite racist with the Hungarians, but we are used to it.
Stealing Hungarian money? Are you aware that it is not Hungarian money? Hungary receives more money than it gives.
@@JaTi-kz6hx Every year, Western EU companies take out billions of euros in profits. Cohesion funds around the same amount are in return. That's true about Slovakia as well etc. This is how the EU works. You make money in Hungary and the region. In addition, the EU is withholding funds due to things which, according to the treaties, is a MEMBER STATE CATEGORY. Yes, you are stealing the money that is rightfully due to the Hungarians by violate the EU own rules.
I agree, this EU Made Simple is for simpletons. This is my first time I got on to this site. 😂
As a Romanian 🇷🇴, I wouldn't mind if my government would blackmail the EU once or twice, given the discrimination we face from Austria. Hungary showed us how to get things done.
That's a fair point though.. As a Hungarian, I hate what my government is doing, but Romaina should have been in the Schengen area a for a long time!
As a Hungarian, I agree with what my government is doing and also think that Romania should have been in the Schengen area for a long time by now.
@@Arxareon OX
@@Mrac-zz8vhbut u know u have good life only because EU pay for u? Germany pay 22milion €€€€€ for u .
@@Streleny
You know German companies alone have way more extra profit done in Hungary than the cohesion funds which are payed in by all EU countries together including Hungary. This is a part of a contract that reflected on the fact, that if the Hungarian market is opened for western companies without protection, the that time backwards local communist industries and businesses will be bankrupt in short term and most of the economy will be owned by western companies who will than be able to make massive profits which are unreachable in western Europe. This contract is broken since for political reasons these funds are not payed.
The reason I live a good life is that I also work for a German company, doing the exact same work as my German colleagues whom I am in contact with daily producing the actual same product..for 30% of their salary. So I produce over twice of my salary as an extra profit for my company whilst I live a good life from that fraction I get. Very similar to the Germany-Hungary economic relation in small. This relation is not as simplistic as it is pictured in propaganda peaces.
Since when did orban asking for Hungarian interest becomes blackmail
Since the two topics have nothing to do with each other (holding back money because of corruption and lack of rule of law VS talking with Unkraine)
@@123_1From when one EU country who pays his dues is obligated to give Christmas 🎄 shopping taxpayers money to a non member UE who don't respect the basic human rights, minorities rights, religion rights??? Each individual state who voted for YES is more than welcome to send money to Zelenski. But the hypocrites aren't gonna do it.
The dwarf size countries at the east end of the EU (Slovakia, Hungary) and the not so dwarf size Poland are economically endangered by the membership of the Ukraine. They would need serious guarantees from Brussels that their own agricultural sectors won't be washed away by the cheap and dubious quality Ukrainian products. Brussels clearly don't want to give such guarantees, on the contrary: they loosen the strict EU quality standards on agriculture goods so that the Ukrainian producers could easily meet them. That kills the farmers of the region in the neighbourhood of the Ukraine because the primary market is these countries first. (Other parts of Europe and African countries come only after that.) Orbán won't welcome Ukraine in the EU if they don't take their wheat elsewhere. He is in day-to-day contact with the Hungarian farmers' association and he promised them that he would settle this matter.
Being an EU member state, Ukraine would cause headache (for different reasons) to many member states. That is why it is possible that eventually Ukraine would never be admitted into the EU. The difference between Orbán and the rest is that Orbán is saying right now that only 'registered partnership' with keeping the distance is possible with Ukraine and not full scale membership.
The EU has been blackmailing Orban in the first place for a long time.....
yup this guy's whole youtube is just a left-wing echo chamber.
he's a clown
Who is blackmailing whom? Withholding funds due because of fake charges = BLACKMAIL. Orbán gives as well as he takes, a master politician.
It's Hungary's money for Pete's sake.
In this point only, I agree with Orban (*gagging*).
Ukraine is in a war, it's exceptionally poor, massively corrupt and has no tradition for democratic institutions (all these, even before the war).
In what world does Ukraine look like a proper candidate for the EU? And if the price is enmity with Russia, just to please the US, why the hell should we do that?
this 100%...
EU Hamis jatekott jatszik,ök csak penzbe kerulnek
SMS queen Ursula talks about the rule of law and corruption and " mismanagement of EU funds " :D . Of course, she manages the vaccine procurement amazingly. XD
He didn't blackmail anybody. The money they ask Hungary to give to Ukraine is at the EU. So the first step is to give it to Hungary, which Orban told.
if Ukraine loses, then Europe and the Western world as a whole will lose
This is a disgrace that proves the need of leaving unanimity behind us
Unanimity is supposed to ensure that all the members will follow with the decisions and not ignore them. Unanimity is there to make it harder for EU to undermine the democracy of any of the member states because EU requires democracy in order to join it. That means EU must also respect the decisions of the people of a country as much as it wants them to be democratic.
Here's the thing with democracy at national level. It makes the leaders of the countries represent the will of their people in EU, not the will of EU to their people.
Unanimity needs to be abandoned and power needs to be given to the parliament, the representation of only 27 people in a "council" representing more than 400 millions people (even though being country leaders) is mind blowingly weird, because they each have different views on how to lead, how to rule and what choices to do. Saying that "country leaders represent their country" is at least utopic, at most childish. Leaders do not represent their country, they uphold their own opinion in accord of the people's validation. A parliament, however, does represent a country because it is an image of the share of each political ideas in society. When the leaders talk in the council, they represent their ideologies, backed by a majority of the people from their country. When the parliament votes, it's a direct representation of the wills of the european people.@@Hardcore_Remixer
@@CoralWatches When I said country leaders I was not only refering to the presidents, but also to the parliment and the government which also get elected by the people through vote. If EU anyway made the decisions then it would make no sense to vote for any political party or presidency candidate in your country. Only EU elections would be meaningful. It would be as if the countries had no government, parliment or president of their own. It would be as if EU itself was a country, which it isn't. It is an alliance in which consensus is the key the reason vetos exist is to prevent a group of member countries from dictating stuff to the other member countries. As I said, remove the vetos and you'll have to condition member countries to behave as if they had no government, parliment or president of their own unless it is to represent EU leadership to their people. There would no longer be democracy at national level despite it being a requirement in order to join the EU.
02:22 Before the Ukraine-Russia War... Von der Leyen ordered 120 LNG tankers..1day before the war started (How comes?!) (Why they doesn't look after the pipeline) Only the AFD wants to know it?!
*I do not know enough about judicial reforms in Hungary in order to express an opinion about the unfreezing of EU funds for Hungarians.*
I totally agree with you in Eu there are double standards concerning the memberships and this isn t in favor of the Hungarian interests!
At the moment there's no better politician in the EU, than him. Completely sane with clear talk and goals. No bulshitting, no foggy expressions, just direct speech, a real man of word. Also the only leader who thinks about his country first. Now all you who are spitting on him are just jealous, because you have weak leaders. And here's the point.
Such bullshit. Schooling and healthcare system is crumbling.
Propaganda every radio station, almost every news and billboards.
The so called clear speech is nothing, but repetition of their narrative which is simplified misdirection of the masses, meanwhile doing the exact thing, see migration, "can't take away our jobs"
Man of his work who was swearing he would veto accession talks, yet he eventually didn’t? Doesn’t seem like a man of his word to me
Cognitive discrimination! Must be awful for you!
@@transparent6842Not at all. I am actually lucky, because I got the chance to read not only one sided news, but to consider different angle of views as well. I feel actually sorry for those nations in Europe who can't breed true leaders, but nodding puppets of 'Murican military industry interests. Even those who once say something out loud against the holy narrative -> at the end bend their knees at the altar of the machine. And the worst is that all actions are either aimless or fallen.
@@gaborbin2699 And you seem to have a clear preference for the ones that don't discriminate against the cognitively disabled. Good for you :)
remind me, why are we still expanding to these countries?
if Ukraine loses, then Europe and the Western world as a whole will lose, and the EU will strengthen Ukraine and Ukraine will strengthen the EU
@@user-vm6lr9hu4oWhat it mean Ukraine losses? Ujraine never won against a nuclear superpower. But Ukraine already won, because Russia don't want to change it's system with puppets. Lets go and negotiate : you will lost 18% of your territory, but you can win peace and safety inside the NATO and EU. Stop this sensless war!
@@user-vm6lr9hu4o Why?
Bravo Orban,bravo Hugary❤
Yes! Bravo Orban! Bravo Hungarove! You made all the Hungarians(almost) proud of who they are. Love your Nation and stay behind your principles, even others condemn you. The reál Patriots never will do that.
NEVER EVER BAND YOUR HEAD!
Sorry for miss printing:Hungarove instead of HUNGARY!!!!
Talpra Magyar ……….!
Well done Mr Orban, what goes around comes around, EU will never learn.
Well the EU owes him money. They really should pay Hungary before they send more money to Ukraine.
EU owes him nothing. Except maybe showing him the door out.
i feel Eu should not involve into Ukraine as the EU is going true a crisis of its own making rightside party's winning more often then they should. I believe that money should have been invested into EU Reform and fixing the issues each country currently have with imigrants as they are not fleeing to any other country beside EU!
That's why UE will abolish the veto right. And than Germany and France will do eny think they want.
The EU needs a freedom of speech constitutional law before further integration.
It seems everyine is conveniently ignoring the fact that Hungary and many Hungarians do not like ukrain, policies to not support them are well aligned with what of the voters think. So an other perspective is is that the EU is blackmailing Hungary with the withheld funds, not the other way around.
Orban can't rely on Poland helping him anymore
Hungary does not need the new globalist, socialist, Poland PM McDonald but Poland citizens will always be our braders because of our history.
@@belaadorian3370 in EU is 500 milion happy ppl working together. Only 10 milion hungarian like to be different. Not helping. Dont like to be in EU and have EU rules. Why? But hungarian like €€€€€€€€€ from EU. Why?
Nonsense! It's the other way around!
Well done Orban!
You know, the "50 billion aid for Ukraine" would be a bank credit,
the EU would take it. Then the money goes to Zelensky, and the 50 billion debt remains for you, EU citizens.
Every EU-taxpayer would be happy. Of course, most of them aren't informed on details.
Who is “we”? A video channel?
Brabo Orban👍👍👍👍Hajra Fidesz!!!!
More precisely: Hungary will receive the money it borrowed together with the Union. This is a loan that Hungary borrowed and has already begun to repay. What is more surprising is how this could be taken away from the Hungarians until now. If a person takes out a loan from a bank and receives it, it is not a gift, he did not extort it, it belongs to him.
Is that what Hungarian press is telling you?
😂😂😂😂😂
@@DenisHavlikViennaNo, this is the truth.
@@sandormolnar1968 by all means, please do show your sources. Everything EU does is nicely documented online, please be so kind and show where it says that.
@@DenisHavlikVienna Dear Denis I don't know what kind of resource I should present to you, the EU put several conditions which was already fulfilled by Hungary, so they should unblock the contractual amounts. To borrow money for something by the EU was a special ocasion (COVID), Hungary not want to do this, any country (or infividual like You) may send mony for Ukraine as wish.
@@DenisHavlikViennaAll major media in Hungary are controlled by Orban. We should not be surprised by brainwashed people.
The money for Ukraine can be easily gotten around by the member states sending it directly. The salutary lesson is that we need a new Treaty to have majority voting and include the ability to remove membership from a country. But that's never going to happen because Orban will simply veto any proposal. Maybe put it to a vote of the citizens in a referendum?
Or maybe put the Ukranian EU membership and the " military aid" to a public vote. I am pretty sure it would settle it. Obviously it won't happen as the EU elit knows that they are exactly one public vote away from loosing power.
@@Mrac-zz8vh Vote to confiscate my money and donate it to Ukraine, while I cannot afford to buy a one room appartment? Just donate if you want, don't force others by vote, just as you forced the africans into slavery by democratic vote too.
Are you blind, don't you see that the whole of Europe is going to ruin because of the Russian-Ukrainian war? People are getting poorer, even in welfare states, not in poorer ones. Do you think they are happy that they should throw together the money intended for Ukraine, which the European Union would take in the form of a loan, do you think the EU war maniacs will even contribute a penny to such money throwing??? No, because the loans that the Union intends to give to Ukraine would be repaid as bank loans from all European citizens, and Ukraine is not a member of the European Union! You're all out of your mind! The whole of Europe is getting poorer and more poorer for a non European Union country!!
And this war was provoked by the Ukrainians with the Americans and NATO, the West assisted all this with open mouth, and now all of Europe, all European citizens have to pay for it?? Do you think this is fair??
@@Mrac-zz8vh Any new EU membership will need quite a few referundum anyway... Talks to enter the EU don't need any.
Well the whole point of creating the EU was so states didn't just go do things individually, right? So what's happening here is that since the EU can't pass something, because of their own rules (ie a state's veto), then they want to skirt their own policies and let the individual states do it.
It’s the opposite. EU is blackmailing Hungary, which has the most to use when Ukraine situation goes out of control. EU should be making peace with Russian Federation, not irresponsibly stocking the flames of a senseless war.
As long as the money does not arrive at any deserving person, them politicians are auto-OK with whatever happened for real. 🤮
Blackmail indeed, but it was the EU who held back the cohesion funds and the collective loan from Hungary. Unsurprisingly, Hungary blackmailed back the EU. Imagine my lack of surprise..
However, I do agree that this circus weakens the EU as a whole.
Hungary talked with the EU about his judicial reform, and changed several laws to fulfill all the EU expectations. That's why the 10 bn liberated. This mean the EU blackmail works. So not Orbán blackmailed the EU, but oppositely. So you dont need any Article 7, when they have other scenarios, to reach your goal. The EU goal is the rule of law in each country. And Hungary steped ahead on this line. Meantine Hungary have private policy, when he not agree with all decisions of the Committee. But this alone no reason to punish a country with Article7.
I don't really like the way out of this situation. We saved 3/4 of the money. But now all countries will simply want to ignore the decisions they don't like, thereby discrediting them and bending their line for personal gain
Should take the consequences, if EU is so weak that only one guy can play with him for years then should broke up or if he is so strong then he should be the top of EU.
Btw EU is just taking Europeans to hell.
What about the hipotesys of suspending Hungary as a member state with Poland not there anymore to act like a big bro
You can just suspend your tiniminy br...A I n - sorry to say.
Orban Blackmailed the EU? This money is the Hungarian taxpayers' money. The EU has no rights to not give the money to Hungary. Ukraine doesn't qualify to be a member of EU.
Pont forditva: ha nem szavaztok ukr EU csatlakozásra akkor nem kaptok pénzt! Mi a különbség Orbán és Putyin között ?Orbán ellenzi Putyin nem ellenzi Ukrajna EU csatlakozását!Miért?Mert Putyin látja hogy Ukrajna csatlakozása belülről fogja szétverni az Uniót!
The problem with the next 50B Euros for Ukraine is the fact that about a third of it would be in the form of debt on behalf of the EU. This was always a big no-no until the covid-recovery fund, but since then the EU establishment keeps trying to accrue more debt like that. This is a clear pro-federalist ploy to recreate the conditions that lead to the formation of the USA back in the day, with the federal goverment establishing federal debt. Orban is right to object to it. The member states could always foot the bill from their own budgets, but that would of course mean explaining to their voters how much more of their taxes are going for Ukraine, while the EU money is for most voters like fairy dust. Unlimited supply.
Even better: every EU citizen is free to donate unlimited money to Ukraine. Orban cannot stop that. But instead of donating themselves, they want to force others to donate.
Aren’t they doing the same to him?
Good video
Hungary got bribed. I thought the EU was against bribery? Hypocrisy.
Kick Orban and Hungary out of The EU
He’s a truly incredible man ! Hi lites the this gusting corruption that goes on in the EU ! A true fighter for the people, not for the special interest !!! The only politician with SPINE !!!!!
Right, cause in Hungary there is none, only organized, legalized corruption.
YOU HEAD. PULL YOUR WIRES OUT.
If this keeps happening it will not be a surprise to see more and more opinions align with EU skeptics. It’s obsolete that it can happen, while leaders are shaking hands and smiling to the camera.
Skepticism is based on the fact that leaders and bureaucracy are not doing their jobs well. Change is necessary. Bad work breeds skepticism.
Invitation to Ukraine was much needed as a message of hop to their people. Orban can play games for now, but in the long run it's bad for Hungary. Also after EU reforms, no more one blackmails all.
In the long run, another Easter corrupt state will join the EU... if it beats Russia..
Yes, it is hope, but it will become a despair.
This EU reform needs approval from 100% of the EU states...so it will be blocked.
Lol all reforms need to also be passed unanimously. Which means Hungary will need to vite yes to limit the veto power
What the EU bureaucrats are doing is totally wrong and irresponsible.How is it possible to invite a corrupt Country like Ukraine where they don't respect the basic human rights, the minority rights, religion right and other countries waiting from more than 10 years (Serbia , Bosnia Herzegovina , Georgia,Turkye,Albania)
Orbán trolls are here en force.
What makes them trolls while the pro-EU are not, aside from immature ad hominem?
@@IslamBenfifi Because they all use the same script? I mean, it's quite easy to spot that.
Also most Orbán supporters inside Hungary don't even speak English, so you don't see them in English language videos and comment sections.
You mean Orban is blackmailing the EU so the EU releases Hungary's part of the covid recovery fund that is rightfully their's?
@@diogorodrigues747How brave of you to insult an entire nation. My husband speaks 5 languages and he supports Orbán.
@@dreamyvagabond If you feel insulted that's not my problem, I only said basic facts. Also your false generalization of basically equalizing "Orbán" with "Hungary" comes straight from Olgino and Wumao.
Many do not understand the hypocrisy of the EP: it refused money to Hungary (member of the EP) on some grounds and consideration's . . But when political interests demand it (the case of Ukraina, not a member of the EP), the EP forgets about any considerations and guarantees for a huge amount of money (50 billion), completely forgetting the demands it asked to Hungary for 3 years. Hypocrisy and double standards without a curtain , this is the EP nd EC. And some are still talking about blackmail! Pathetic!!!
Based Hungary
I love Orban.
miért is kéne fizetnünk ukrajnámak ?
Mert "Current Thing"
Appeasing "mussolini"!!!!!
Eu blames hungary for corruption
> Gets blackmailed / Pays bribe
Beautiful
Only one thinks and is brave. Orban
He is the best leader. Screw the rest of euro. He has all the right . They are supporting a fascist country Ukraine . Orban 200% right.
It wasn't just the immigration issue that induced me to vote to leave the E.U. Orban is a very good example of the other reason; too bloody constrictive, too reliant on the ill will of the other member countries..
Expell Orban Hungary from EU asap
YOU put a wrong title for the video.TO reflect the reality your title suppose to be like this:EU blackmail Hungary from 2021 and refuse to relyse the 30€ billions what UE owe to Hungary.
Xaxaxa. U can be happy hungary is still in EU. If not u will be poor like in GB
@@Streleny YOU are exaggerating .If it is not the EU ,Hungary has the turkic brothers so no problem .
@@belaadorian3370 yes. Go. Now. Dont waiting. Go. Ur rus brother help you. Go
Orban the greatest leader in the whole word!!!
Why EU don't use Article 7 ?
Viktor is a smart one 😃
BRAVO HUNGARY! YOU NEVER BEND YOUR HEAD NOT TODAY AND NOT "YESTERDAY"!!!!!!! AND EVER!
Yeah, about that ...
Hungary was a nazi state in 1940es, then a communist state under USSR until 1990. With 1956 revolution (attempt) being the only bright spot in this period.
1956 sends its greetings and demands its Hungarians with civil courage to stand for democracy and against autocracy back. 🤷🏻♂️
@@DenisHavlikVienna: GO TO HELL! YOU LEARN THE COMMUNIST HISTORY!!! THEY DON'T BETRAY LOYALITY TOWARD THEIR ALLIES. WHEN THEY SAW GERMASN LOOSING THE WAR,THEY TURN THEIR BACK AND FIGHT AGAINST GERMENY, ANMD THE CRIMINAL STALIN, WHO KILLER TWICE AS GERMANY DID. THIS WAYWE END UP WITH STAL;IN WHO WAS WORST , KILLING MILLIOMS OF PEOPLE. HUNGARY INEV ER BEND THEIR HEAD LIKE UKRAINE SO CALLED WAR! THEY DISTROY EUROPE. YOU LIKE HOW WE LIVE TODAY And TOMORROW WOULD BE WORST. GERMANY KAPUT, ITALY. SPAIIN THE SAME AND A NEW EUROPE, - EURO-ASIATSKE HIS PLAAC E!
@@DenisHavlikVienna , I think you never learn the real History. You lived in Communism ,that you speak so highly ot\f that system? For your intellectual knowledge! Hungary refused to be involved between RUSSIA - UKRAINE, they are a brother Nation. And one other think, Hungary will never bend his head against his Nation. They love who they are.
@@lisaisabella182 sadly , it would seem that you have no idea what happened in Hungary back in 1956.
But that's OK. Many people know next to nothing about recent history. You can learn, it's not some kind of a secret knowledge. 🤷🏻♂️
@@DenisHavlikVienna , Sorry my message was cut of. Please, don't put me on a same level of those under-educated who are talking days and days about Russia and Ukraine and can read the Map, don't know their own History ,because this Country did not teach them so, don't expect them to know the World History! In regard with 1956, Revolution in Hungary, I was there. I pretend from myself that I'm a "LITTLE" more educated and intellectual .Study in EUROPE not in USA!
The veto system has a number of advantages, like EU members really need to be unanimous, which is good for cohesion. But at the same time we can see, the Orbans in this world will take advantage of their veto power to fuel their greed for money.
Any smallest country can do the same for it's own benefits
100%. European cooperation of what we see now is amazing, as seen with the exchange programs that they have. However, it still needs ALOT of work, as seen with orban and Hungary wanting tons of money while at the same time keep sucking up to Russia + calling the EU "communists". I think that either changing the veto laws, or just flat out kicking hungary out would probably be either good, or at the very least good in the short time, as kicking the UK out of the EU for example actually strengthened the EU and made it more cohesive (The UK was kinda like Hungary, as they wanted tons of money from the EU yet called the EU "opressive" or "too powerful".) The UK wanted Turkey in the EU because it would make "France and Germany weak", and the EU in general weak. Heck, even Poland is frustrated with Hungary doing this vetoing the Ukraine + EU stuff, and you KNOW how deep relations between them both are.
@@anifsky1065 Hungary bwants tons of money? Hungary 2 times more money send to EU than waht the EU "send" to hungary, but actually not send nothing...
@@anifsky1065What are you talking about . The EU owes money to Hungary from 2021 and the socialist warmongers bureaucrats ask for all kinds of stupid things. But at the same time after they give to the corrupt Ukraine 100€ billions they want to give him more.All countries who voted YES are more than welcome to send money but the hypocrites aren't gonna do it.STOP the WAR and START negotiation don't waste the taxpayers money for BS.
Pénzéhségről inkább kérdezd Éva Kailit!
1956 vergeten.
Seemingly, there are 2 countries in the EU, who basicly dont want to be here, Orban is making a autocratic goverment in Hungary and Slovakia is supporting the Russian Federation, both are not according to the EU regulations, so, please leave.
I don't understand why the EU does not apply Article 7 in order to block Hungary's voting rights.
Because poland/slovaks veto that
@@goldbeni, I guess, only Slovaks would do. After all, Poland is no longer under right populists
@@semmitnemfogadel sounds reasonable. However, they are generally opposed to the EU. And not only against illegal immigrants and LGBT people. How Poland is doing it
They promote the interests of countries outside the EU (China and the Russian Federation).
And at the same time, using unanimity, they declare that the EU is the USSR.
And here I didn't say a word about how dictatorial Orbán's government is.
@@yurik8468 And the rest of the EU cares too much about US interests. So it is good to care about US interests but not about Russian interests?
@@semmitnemfogadel
The accusations leveled against Hungary by the EU have nothing to do with illegal immigration or gender ideology. It's about judicial independence. An extremely important topic for any democracy. Without that you're 90% on your way to being a dictatorship.
I suggest rethinking your sources of misinformation. I'm sure you can handle something more sophisticated than media outlets focused on social wedge issues for right wingers below 80 IQ.
The Union treats Hungary almost more harshly than the Soviet Union did. At least the Soviet Union did not prescribe to Hungarians how to raise their children, and they did not want to establish refugee camps in the country. Although the Soviets ruled the country, at least they were predictable and kept their promises. This is not the case in the Union.
The union wants to break Hungary, not only economically, but also spiritually. In the beginning, the union seemed like a hope, but today it has become an oppressive power, which wants to starve the country, if the Hungarians do not give up completely their sovereignty.
I mean that's called politics...
It's ok for EU Commission to blackmail Hungary but it's not ok for Hungary to blackmail EU Commission. 😂
For the record, here in the Hungarian press media which is almost exclusively owned by the government, they're talking about how they're doing everything in their power to stop Ukraine from joining because they decided they're not ready for accession. Their justification is they're "concerned about corruption" (lmao that's rich) and their poorly regulated agriculture which would devalue the agricultural output of Hungary and other neighbouring countries and potentially reducing EU subsidies. I guess this second has at least a small measure of real concern, but it should be a talking point instead of a straight up veto trigger. Since Ukraine accession talks ARE going ahead though, the talking point in the near future is definitely gonna be a smear campaign against the EU and how they're doing whatever they want anyway, despite the Hungarian leaderships' wishes.
It's dystopian and the worst part is that since they own the press, the majority of the people will never know any better. If you don't speak English or some other foreign language AND if you don't actively read or listen to international press, you will never even have a clue about what's really going on in Brussels as a Hungarian. Very sad and depressing.
@tomeekun Really? So in the era of Internet they don't have access to free media ? Hmm thats kinda unbelievable, I guess FIDESZ is going to each person's house to impose what to read. The problem with opposition is that they have no idea what they want. If you listen to the opposition media commentaries and talks rarely one can filter out anything constructive.
Like in Canada . Trudoue is a dictstor and the real news never riches the public. I agree with Orban 100% . EU is corrupt . USA is the gangleader .