Disney Respond To Critical Drinker & “Toxic” Fandom

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  • Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
  • Disney have been getting attacked heavily by the fans online over the last couple of yours for their terrible movies especially in the MCU and Disney Star Wars, with online critics like The Critical Drinker leading the charge calling out Disney's terrible movies. But in a crazy turn of events Disney have seemingly responded to this negative criticism and finally admitted that they have been failing, and Disney have also announced that they have now cancelled multiple movies including MCU projects. However I doubt they would be making these changes if it wasn't for the growing pressure due to millions of people online critiquing their films, with The Critical Drinker leading the charge.
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  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog 2 месяца назад +1912

    R.I.P. Akira Toriyama (1955 - 2024) 😢

    • @thejessegrant
      @thejessegrant  2 месяца назад +238

      Incredibly sad!

    • @FaceSlater
      @FaceSlater 2 месяца назад +33

      Pls say sike rn 😢

    • @ggt47
      @ggt47 2 месяца назад +26

      Sad day indeed.

    • @samym1694
      @samym1694 2 месяца назад +35

      Our Legend we never forget.
      I was never a fan of Dragon Ball & Anime until my friend brag & convinced me about Japan's entertainment as Western Entertainment goes down due to repetitive messaging

    • @sita9071
      @sita9071 2 месяца назад +9

      @@FaceSlater Sadly not :(

  • @ItachiUchiha-ut6xj
    @ItachiUchiha-ut6xj 2 месяца назад +1198

    Nothing Bob Iger says means anything. He literally just says what his investors wanna hear or what he thinks the audiences wants to hear. He is completely disingenuous and always talks out of both sides of his lying mouth.

    • @psyclotronxx3083
      @psyclotronxx3083 2 месяца назад +47

      He's a stuffed shirt with no courage. Very typical of executives

    • @kicknowledgesmith8608
      @kicknowledgesmith8608 2 месяца назад +24

      Exactly, they will still put out Iron Heart, Agatha, Captain Wilson, and Thunderbolts led by Yelena. Not sure why people think Disney will move away from pandering. She Hulk will be back at some point, take that to the bank lol.

    • @jm7804
      @jm7804 2 месяца назад +17

      @@kicknowledgesmith8608 Yeah, because those projects are already in the works. You can't just pull the plug on stuff which is in production or post production. Vote with your pocketbook and don't see those films. That's all you can really do. Raging in the threads of YT videos isn't going to change a thing.

    • @eurtz876
      @eurtz876 2 месяца назад +26

      ​@@jm7804Batgirl disagrees,after a certain point it's just plain better not to damage your brand any further rather than release a turd and make a tiny return on your poor investment. Either way Disney dug themselves a fine grave indeed.

    • @Scaash
      @Scaash 2 месяца назад +1

      Dont care if he believes it, all that matters to me is he does correct course.

  • @bitteroldhousecat9304
    @bitteroldhousecat9304 2 месяца назад +371

    5 years ago we all hoped that Star Wars would learn from the MCU on how to be successful. Instead, the MCU seemed to have learned from Star Wars on how to be a failure.

    • @jhammer4919
      @jhammer4919 2 месяца назад +14

      M She U happened

    • @Grubnar
      @Grubnar 2 месяца назад +1

      "Put a chick in it and make her lame and gay!"

    • @terogates1
      @terogates1 2 месяца назад

      @@jhammer4919Jesus Chiat you can say something is bad without it being about women, are you guys like in the closet or something? ( noticing a lot of hetero men hating on women which is baffling to say the least)

    • @terogates1
      @terogates1 2 месяца назад +3

      Star Wars would have been fine if the fanbase hadn’t hated the hell out of the last Jedi for no reason resulting in the scramble to correct that gave us rise of skywalker. ( that and Carrie fisher passing)

    • @Grubnar
      @Grubnar 2 месяца назад +29

      @@terogates1 "...hated the hell out of the last Jedi for no reason"
      Are you OK?

  • @Mangolorian-je3eo
    @Mangolorian-je3eo 2 месяца назад +363

    Meh. Bob’s thing is to always say he’s course correcting while changing nothing.
    Not buying it.

    • @Osprey850
      @Osprey850 2 месяца назад +4

      He's just dumping bucketfuls of water back into the ocean, which may slow the sinking, but in no way corrects the course (downward).

    • @rhetorical1488
      @rhetorical1488 2 месяца назад +4

      can you course correct when you are going in circles?🤔

    • @NinjaFlibble
      @NinjaFlibble 2 месяца назад +1

      That's why I'll wait to actually *see* a difference

    • @Beautyofanime1
      @Beautyofanime1 2 месяца назад

      Dude grown men crying over Disney characters because they are females lol

    • @DraGon1229
      @DraGon1229 2 месяца назад +1

      Course correction after paving the road Bob surely know how to blame others

  • @jameharris098
    @jameharris098 2 месяца назад +643

    Its hard for Disney when they sacked all the good writers, directors and producers.

    • @bl8388
      @bl8388 2 месяца назад

      And their entire structure and culture is entrenched with ," the message," of woke living and thinking. White and male are bad. The darker your skin, the better. It's not a message of equality, it's a message of victims/superior people and victimizers/inferior people. They have to have a major change of mind to give up that intersectional bigotry.

    • @LionPanthor
      @LionPanthor 2 месяца назад +49

      Correct. Activism became most important followed by insulting the fans.

    • @AdLockhorst-bf8pz
      @AdLockhorst-bf8pz 2 месяца назад +14

      Marketing. It would make all the difference if an actual creative writer were put in charge. But no, marketing is king. The potential for selling merchandise is what projects are based on; the hitpotential of a song (LET IT GO is what FROZEN was constructed around). Derived stuff (anything you can glue a Starwars logo on. The green milk - available in Disney parks - was a surprising failure).
      Just imagine if Disney put the same amount of effort into the plot of a movie that they put into that coloured flavoured milk ... but nooo, "somehow Palpatine returns" is what they came up with. Three words.

    • @dacritter8397
      @dacritter8397 2 месяца назад

      DEI baby.. who cares about the quality when we got the right sexual organs and colors. They need to just put in a chick and make her gay.

    • @doyourownresearch7297
      @doyourownresearch7297 2 месяца назад +12

      they were the wrong color and gender and sexuality. What else could be done?

  • @gamerkingdom1442
    @gamerkingdom1442 2 месяца назад +811

    At this rate, RUclipsrs like Critical Drinker, Nerdrotic, HeelVs.Babyface and many more are MORE ENTERTAINING than the Disney movies!

    • @thejessegrant
      @thejessegrant  2 месяца назад +62

      I agree ahaha

    • @popeyeandthejeep7459
      @popeyeandthejeep7459 2 месяца назад +12

      Yes! Yes they are.

    • @JakubChalupnik
      @JakubChalupnik 2 месяца назад +17

      They also have more views and bigger profit...

    • @protorhinocerator142
      @protorhinocerator142 2 месяца назад +40

      I get more entertainment from a 10 minute Critical Drinker video than I get from a full season of She-Hulk.
      And I really wanted to like She-Hulk.

    • @vincelang3779
      @vincelang3779 2 месяца назад +3

      Agreed. It is also unhinged to think that any of those people have enough clout or followers to have had more than ZERO influence on these changes. Try looking into Dole (yes : the fruit importing brand) and Post Holdings (a hydra of companies) first . . . As many wise men have said : follow the money.

  • @jeniferclemente1252
    @jeniferclemente1252 2 месяца назад +87

    “A snake can shed its own skin. But it’s still a snake”
    Iger proves it every time; being the manipulative person his is.
    Also, the biggest problem with “introducing characters” is that their bad writing causes them to take ages to get people to get to know them. Which, in turn, creates the myth of “needing more time to introduce a character”.
    Plenty of films in the 2000s only took 5 minutes for the audience to know in the beginning and witness their character arc in the rest of the film.
    2 hours and on in a second film to understand them is just terrible writing when no one knows more about who they are in the first few minutes.

    • @jhammer4919
      @jhammer4919 2 месяца назад +3

      Yep interesting that we are just a few weeks away from a D shareholder vote isn’t it. It if smells like a rat its likely a rat

    • @jeniferclemente1252
      @jeniferclemente1252 2 месяца назад

      @@jhammer4919 pretty much

    • @rizkyantoni3948
      @rizkyantoni3948 2 месяца назад +1

      I don't know how to say this, but it's like what Filmento explains. Characters today exist to help move the plot forward but not moving themselves forward and integrate themselves into the story. So we lost momentum to learn anything about them.

    • @jeniferclemente1252
      @jeniferclemente1252 2 месяца назад

      @@rizkyantoni3948 precisely

  • @sollytom6266
    @sollytom6266 2 месяца назад +64

    "We can't still associate dead characters from five years ago with the modern franchise."
    Except after five years, the dead characters are still better than what the modern franchise condescends to put on screen.

  • @koudyhoShorty
    @koudyhoShorty 2 месяца назад +412

    Fans: Finally they killed diverse Snow White and other bs
    Disney: *kills Deadpool*

    • @KE-yq2eg
      @KE-yq2eg 2 месяца назад +41

      I wouldn't be upset with that because it's still Disney shooting themselves in the foot.

    • @asmith121
      @asmith121 2 месяца назад +23

      Deadpool is insanely overrated anyways. Let it die...

    • @metaskeleton
      @metaskeleton 2 месяца назад +63

      @@asmith121 fuck no lol its the only thing people are looking forward to rn

    • @timometsanoja9666
      @timometsanoja9666 2 месяца назад +27

      You really cannot kill Deadpool... I hope they have kept their DEI tentacles away from it and have been doing viral marketing for it the whole time. Cause if Deadpool is about something it is definitely not DEI. Brutal kills and bad puns is what it should be about. Puns so bad they are good.

    • @NumptyMcGlumpty
      @NumptyMcGlumpty 2 месяца назад +10

      @@timometsanoja9666i am not optimistic about this one, the last one was ok-ish i suppose

  • @philipbutler6608
    @philipbutler6608 2 месяца назад +81

    Bob Iger is saying what he thinks will get him off the hook. He’s canceling shit because they are broke.

    • @notfromhere8889
      @notfromhere8889 2 месяца назад +2

      They are far from broke lol

    • @philipbutler6608
      @philipbutler6608 2 месяца назад

      @@notfromhere8889 assets and liquidity are two different things when a corporation can’t make payroll they are out of business. You can’t just worthless movies forever with money you get from cruises and parks. There is a point when raising prices on park’s results in declining revenue.

    • @BoinkrNanis
      @BoinkrNanis 2 месяца назад +3

      ​@notfromhere8889 nah fam, they went from like 380bil in stock to 140...they're broke af. They've essentially lost all the profits from the 11 years of good mcu in less than 2 years. They also have pretty much no prospects going forward. Marvel fans are out, star wars fans are out and after last year they've pushed out families. Deadpool 3 will be the most pirated movie in history and if that's a DEI disaster, it'll just be the nail in the coffin. Oh well, if they kept releasing shit movies that'd be one thing, but shitting on your customers in that process was simply a no no.

    • @notfromhere8889
      @notfromhere8889 2 месяца назад

      @BoinkrNanis Yet they're still number 2 behind Netflix. That isn't broke. Cutting costs is a basic part of business.

    • @MisTTwisted
      @MisTTwisted 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@BoinkrNaniswhy you so invested in it tho? 😂

  • @roberw1912
    @roberw1912 2 месяца назад +322

    I disagree that the Critical Drinker changed movies. The movies are changing because they lost a lot of money. The Marvels is a movie made for an audience that does not exist.

    • @jjojon7072
      @jjojon7072 2 месяца назад +25

      Agreed these guys only listen to money

    • @DavidSmith-zd2iv
      @DavidSmith-zd2iv 2 месяца назад +25

      100%
      They don't care about the opinions of a few. They care that the larger audience voted with their wallets and their own critical thinking as to why their series and movies are failing

    • @Aaron-kj8dv
      @Aaron-kj8dv 2 месяца назад +21

      I don't watch him often but the last video I saw he showed a graph of demographics and who watches what genre and he said what you're saying. Studios come into a genre that's mostly male skewing and then make movies designed for women. Funny enough they never do the inverse. There's not many rom-coms or musicals geared towards men, for a good reason.
      Like when they made that gay rom com that flopped. Men don't want to watch it because it's rom com and women don't want to watch it because they can't relate to any of characters when both love interests are male.

    • @EarJuice
      @EarJuice 2 месяца назад +4

      Shadow people talk to me at night and give me movie suggestions. Usually snuff films but at least good characters.

    • @I3aMb00
      @I3aMb00 2 месяца назад

      They monetized on the trending woke agenda, it was never about the people or their “community.” The fact that they would censor their movies, change movie posters across the world especially In China just speaks volumes on this. Disney deserves to be exposed for everything and I’m glad they lost out on billions.

  • @FZMello
    @FZMello 2 месяца назад +75

    I think Jesse slightly missed the point. We don't care if Disney introduces a character and then waits however long to flesh out their story, because we simply don't care about the character if they bear the unmistakable taint of "social justice". Justice needs no modifier or qualifier, and if it comes with one, it's NOT justice, but simply "tilting the playing field" which is NOT justice. Period.

    • @jeffersonhassan4558
      @jeffersonhassan4558 2 месяца назад +1

      Please speak for yourself because I care

    • @FZMello
      @FZMello 2 месяца назад +11

      @@jeffersonhassan4558, then you're obviously not one of whom I speak.

    • @jeffersonhassan4558
      @jeffersonhassan4558 2 месяца назад

      @@FZMello you said "we" buddy not me

    • @shirw
      @shirw 2 месяца назад +6

      ​@FZMello I agree... I will be your "other" for the "we" 😅

    • @jeffersonhassan4558
      @jeffersonhassan4558 2 месяца назад

      @@shirw and Jesse is on the opposing side with me

  • @Ravewolf24
    @Ravewolf24 2 месяца назад +7

    They didn't consider changes because of the Critical Drinker, they considered changes because their profits on the bottom line had started to suffer. It's not a discussion with RUclips, it's about the money.

  • @Shorty_Lickens
    @Shorty_Lickens 2 месяца назад +13

    The fact they are finally acknowledging the "toxic fandom" says a lot. It means they have to come up with a new set of lies and excuses to keep losing money.

  • @matthewbentley1236
    @matthewbentley1236 2 месяца назад +3

    I don't think it's online critics that have caused this change, it's the public not going to watch their movies - that's what really matters not what people say on the internet.

  • @kenstrumpf909
    @kenstrumpf909 2 месяца назад +38

    When you fail to plan you plan to fail. And no one plans to fail like Disney.

  • @chrisbullard5901
    @chrisbullard5901 2 месяца назад +13

    It’s the same fundamental problem with every business: the owners of a toxic company culture that can’t make money double down on their bad decisions, because if they admit fault, it breaks their egos.

  • @indistinctchatter3501
    @indistinctchatter3501 2 месяца назад +126

    Disney's "rendition" of comic book movies are nothing short of insulting to fans.

    • @pepita2437
      @pepita2437 2 месяца назад +2

      Agree. T_T

    • @GourSmith
      @GourSmith 2 месяца назад +3

      Only recently … Meaning within the last 4-5 years. It’s a new problem.

    • @terogates1
      @terogates1 2 месяца назад

      I also just wanna say. As a power rangers fan I hated when Disney had control of it. But now adays? I appreciate what they were doing cus the seasons that came after they lost the license SUCKED. Made those Disney seasons look way better afterward

    • @baxatakbaxatak2014
      @baxatakbaxatak2014 2 месяца назад +1

      Disney did with MARVEL what AMC did with Walking Dead. They handed entire power to one person (Kevin Feige vs Greg Nicotero), and that one person is now an unstoppable egomaniac who is doing far more harm than good.

    • @GourSmith
      @GourSmith 2 месяца назад

      @@baxatakbaxatak2014 Don’t make that comparison. TWD is nothing like the trash from Marvel the last few years. And anyway … Greg wasn’t even the sole person in charge … It was that Asian lady for a good few years. And I think Scott Gimple was before her.

  • @DrNiradino
    @DrNiradino 2 месяца назад +64

    I've heard a story from a pilot, that during his first flight he went for a rougher landing that he should, and when his older and more expirienced co-pilot told him that pasadgers wouldn't like that he replied "it's not a big deal, they can endure it".
    Later on, when plane safely landed and pasadgers were on their way to the airport, elder pilot came to the younger one, hit him in a face with enough force to put young guy on the ground and said:
    "remember this, asshole. They're the one who put bread on your table, light in your home, and clothes on your back. They will not endure. Instead, you will tie yourself in a knot, but make them happy".
    Shitting all over your own audience feels so obviously counterproductive, that I can't come up with any rational explanation for this.

    • @ASpooneyBard
      @ASpooneyBard 2 месяца назад +11

      The explanation is that the industry is run by people who are either staunch activists (or pandering to activists, same thing), or narcissists. The former beleive that they are changing the world for the better so anyone who opposes them must be evil. The latter believe that they have their finger on the pulse of the zeitgeist, and anyone who disagrees is just stupid. "We know what you want."
      The problem is that making money and pleasing their audience is not a priority for either of those groups. They have "a higher purpose," which is a real problem in multi-billion dollar entertainment industry.

    • @johnhoran9840
      @johnhoran9840 2 месяца назад

      @@ASpooneyBard The first group are evangelizing the world with "woke".

    • @SWOTHDRA
      @SWOTHDRA 2 месяца назад +2

      Women and feelings

    • @asdfbeau
      @asdfbeau 2 месяца назад +3

      the rational explanation is that the industry doesn't run on your money.
      It runs on financing provided by the banks.
      This is the result of low interest rates: banks throw money at everything, whether it's successful or not, because they need that volume to compensate for the tiny % of interest their making on the other side.
      Your loan is their collateral for the debt they actually want (government) so, again, they throw money at you whether your product is profitable or not.

    • @NinjaFlibble
      @NinjaFlibble 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@ASpooneyBard
      Some people in Hollywood are both types of activist

  • @JWProductions2023
    @JWProductions2023 2 месяца назад +127

    Critical Drinker, Movie Cynic, Nerdrodtic, and your channel are the best channels I've seen for holding Disney and Hollywood accountable for not listening to your own fan base and I guess COVID didn't only make people distance from each other but Disney social distanced themselves from their fanbase which made them to use their fan base for gaslighting us into making it feel like it's our problem that their projects sucks

    • @thejessegrant
      @thejessegrant  2 месяца назад +17

      Thanks for putting me in the same category as such great channels!

    • @williamdistefano5698
      @williamdistefano5698 2 месяца назад

      Never-Ever-EVER believe that rat Iger... Mister "how great are we" is not going to course correct unless there's a flamethrower aimed at his legacy.

    • @markmunroe-hz8rf
      @markmunroe-hz8rf 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@thejessegrantif I was wealthy, I'd support indie productions. We all need to.

    • @StingNicks
      @StingNicks 2 месяца назад +4

      Disparu too.

    • @jeremiahm1413
      @jeremiahm1413 2 месяца назад

      And Nerdrotic.

  • @gouravchakraborty9801
    @gouravchakraborty9801 2 месяца назад +196

    RIP Akira Toriyama (Creator of Dragon Ball) (1945-2024)

  • @darkheartdeath
    @darkheartdeath 2 месяца назад +3

    I hate when a movie tells me about a charcter, instead of showing me. I dont need someone being powerful without an origin story and build up.

  • @Advoc8te4Truth
    @Advoc8te4Truth 2 месяца назад +5

    The MCU is dead, LucasFilm is dead, Pixar is dead, and the Disney Brand is dead. ❤😂 The next decade is going to be the breakup of Disney!

  • @John-lo2wn
    @John-lo2wn 2 месяца назад +21

    South parks episode also seemed a bit of a wake up call.

    • @user-ff8rs7gk6r
      @user-ff8rs7gk6r 2 месяца назад +2

      Which is sad, considering how in your face the bad movies have been about it. We shouldn't need Trey & Matt to tell us what to think, but sooo many "anti-establishment" people absolutely do.

    • @John-lo2wn
      @John-lo2wn 2 месяца назад

      I don’t know how I missed “a woke up call”. Sigh we live and we learn.

  • @IndieGamerMonkey
    @IndieGamerMonkey 2 месяца назад +10

    About your entire "No Leadership" chapter, disney doesn't even need to "know" anything, just follow the damn comics.

  • @christopherwebb3517
    @christopherwebb3517 2 месяца назад +15

    It sounds like Disney MCU suffers from the same problem Disney Star Wars did: They just throw poo at a wall and sees what sticks. They have no coherent idea of where their stories are going. And they can't be bothered to avoid plot holes and story archs that go nowhere because they feel their audience isn't worth the effort (and they probably lack the writing skills even if they did care).

    • @mrb2349
      @mrb2349 2 месяца назад +2

      Yes, the issue is terrible writers. It’s as if it is impossible for them to find writers both passionate about the franchise they are working on, and knowledgeable about structural moviemaking and script writing.

  • @BlazingOwnager
    @BlazingOwnager 2 месяца назад +33

    I hate to say it but it's not movie critics that have gotten them to change direction.
    It's ESG running out of money.

    • @SWOTHDRA
      @SWOTHDRA 2 месяца назад

      Yup

    • @asdfbeau
      @asdfbeau 2 месяца назад

      this is it
      we watched, since '09, while 0% interest rates spawned companies that sat in the red for over a decade...nothing changed.
      1-year after money stops being free, and the CEO of Disney is up flapping his gums promising to do better.
      It's not your wallet they care about, it's the bank's.
      "b-b-but they can't get financing without customers!" - they can, and they have been, for years.

  • @workingZen
    @workingZen 2 месяца назад +69

    I think Nerdrotic was the one for me that realised how all our franchises has just been poluted with this DEI stuff. We just want to be entertained

    • @ComicWriter-ml3qt
      @ComicWriter-ml3qt 2 месяца назад +4

      Yes. The reactionary RUclips channel guy is the one to trust.
      He totally has nothing to gain making rage bait videos about “woke”

    • @RoflcopterLamo
      @RoflcopterLamo 2 месяца назад +2

      @@ComicWriter-ml3qt I mean his only gain is views compared to say Disney with being a piece to the assumed new world order
      A society without history

    • @BlaBla-jj6sh
      @BlaBla-jj6sh 2 месяца назад

      @@ComicWriter-ml3qt Found the lame activist posing as 'comic book writer' that's fully on board with the CRT and DEI propaganda agenda. It's regressives like you that chased audiences out of the cinema causing one potential blockbuster after another to flop. How stupid can you be to screw up Star Wars so bad nobody cares about it anymore? We don't want your politics in our movies, your politics are highly flawed anyway. I trust Drinkers opinion far more than any condescending bs lecture you come up with.

    • @ComicWriter-ml3qt
      @ComicWriter-ml3qt 2 месяца назад

      @@RoflcopterLamo you can’t exactly be a grifter without an audience

    • @eyedunno8462
      @eyedunno8462 2 месяца назад

      DEI

  • @neomilw4703
    @neomilw4703 2 месяца назад +11

    People, you can’t expect the guy that created the mess to fix the mess

  • @Puzzoozoo
    @Puzzoozoo 2 месяца назад +9

    I bet thou that The Acolyte is safe, as that is untouchable, and KK would go ballistic is Bob cancelled it.

    • @BoinkrNanis
      @BoinkrNanis 2 месяца назад +1

      It's gonna fail so hard smh

  • @lumadrive
    @lumadrive 2 месяца назад +4

    One of the top comments on the latest Nerdrotic Video:
    "The destruction of entertainment feels calculated and on purpose"

    • @fakecrusader
      @fakecrusader 2 месяца назад

      As far as I recall, there was no such thing as entertainment in "1984", nor was it even mentioned. It was simply erased from history. Escapism is a dangerous drug, it has to be eradicated.

  • @MrMistakeyeah
    @MrMistakeyeah 2 месяца назад +11

    MARK MY WORDS….MARVEL IS GOING TO END UP BEING THE NEXT STAR WARS

    • @dwavenminer
      @dwavenminer 2 месяца назад +10

      ...wasn't marvel already the next Star Wars like a couple of years ago?

    • @MrMistakeyeah
      @MrMistakeyeah 2 месяца назад +3

      @@dwavenminer lol you right

  • @destruction74
    @destruction74 2 месяца назад +3

    It has gotten to the point where I don't want them to listen to us anymore, now I just want them to disappear completely!

  • @AnthonySforza
    @AnthonySforza 2 месяца назад +3

    To put it in perspective, a friend of mine was telling me that he "finally" saw the newer Indiana Jones, movie. So I was asking him about because I hadnt seen it yet. As he was explaining certain plot points, I had to interject about a thing or two, to which he confirmed. "Actually... I think I've seen that..."
    Only for someone else to say "Yea, you and I watched it like three months ago. Between Christmas and New Years... how do forget seeing an Indiana Jones movie?" How indeed...?

  • @Excard0n
    @Excard0n 2 месяца назад +4

    I read Iger's comments as "We haven't doubled down yet and we need to do that to be successful".
    I think it's only going to get worse.

  • @polluxen8515
    @polluxen8515 2 месяца назад +30

    Drinker sows truth among his humor each time.
    Disney sows social engineering among its "work".
    Guess the bad one

  • @jprules2578
    @jprules2578 2 месяца назад +3

    "You can't expect the audience to care about a character.."
    That they NEVER cared about in the first place...or they don't care for the direction that the character has been "enlightened" to make.
    "The Message"(the propaganda/social manipulation) has been discovered and is actively being attacked...finally.

  • @user-ey4lx7nc6m
    @user-ey4lx7nc6m 2 месяца назад +8

    Time for a permanent separation, MCU and Disney!

  • @JohnCompton1
    @JohnCompton1 2 месяца назад +16

    And channels like your Jesse! Who would ever have thought it would take a movement to force Hollywood to make decent movies for its core audience. We are going to look back on this era in cinema in utter astonishment, as the time Hollywood studios lost their collective minds! Thanks so much for sharing!

    • @thejessegrant
      @thejessegrant  2 месяца назад +2

      Thanks for the support but I’m so glad there seems to be change happening but we’ll have to see how it works out

  • @ConspicuousBuyer3592
    @ConspicuousBuyer3592 2 месяца назад +2

    I will never pay to see another movie. What Disney did, in my opinion, is force this choice. The movies were terrible and made me dislike women after watching them. Disney must go bankrupt.

  • @mickeydean249
    @mickeydean249 2 месяца назад +3

    "Slow paced but interesting" - Interstellar is such a great example

  • @KptnKMan360
    @KptnKMan360 2 месяца назад +7

    HAS EVERYONE FORGOTTEN THAT THERE IS A GIANT CELESTIAL POKING OUT OF THE SEA?!?!?

    • @vmcprojects
      @vmcprojects 2 месяца назад +1

      That's what drives me insane with that plot! The rest of the MCU doesn't even acknowledge that there's a nation sized object sticking out of the Earth, but it's not worth mentioning in other MCU movies and TV shows.

    • @BoinkrNanis
      @BoinkrNanis 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@vmcprojectsI remember sitting in the theater and watching the celestial show up outside the earth and thought "I guarantee these mfs are so bad at their jobs they won't acknowledge this in the next movies" and I looked and the only time it's mentioned I think was briefly in she hulk and once in Spiderman and im like, wow, the quality has fucking jumped off a cliff. Bet they'll chock it up to another timeline or some shit that doesn't make sense. I'll say this, their failures since endgame seem intentional. You can't fail this often without actual course correction unless the failures are intentionally being done. Whether they are trying to social engineer or Bob is intentionally devaluing the stock prices for an outside acquisition, it's apparent that this is intentional.

    • @vmcprojects
      @vmcprojects 2 месяца назад

      ​@@BoinkrNanis We are living in some ass backwards world. In any other time period, Hollywood would have learned its lesson and make an immediate course correction, but no amount of failures is making these idiots learn their lessons. They can crash and burn for all I care, because if they don't care why should I?

    • @mrb2349
      @mrb2349 2 месяца назад

      @@BoinkrNanis it’s as if a giant corporation has suddenly forgotten how to do the one thing they are a giant corporation of.

  • @Beer_Dad1975
    @Beer_Dad1975 2 месяца назад +2

    Disney - "Going to cancel bad movies" - still doesn't understand what a bad movie is...

  • @ianhill8345
    @ianhill8345 28 дней назад +1

    Respect to Drinker for leading the revolution. The Mouse needs fixing

  • @dantesinfernopurgatory7826
    @dantesinfernopurgatory7826 2 месяца назад +15

    The Critical Drinker was actually sober until all those woke movies drove him to drink.😅

  • @oddkhan1251
    @oddkhan1251 2 месяца назад +7

    Whoever did Loki Season 2 (Specifically that season) should just be in charge of the entire MCU from now on.

  • @scottsummers4154
    @scottsummers4154 2 месяца назад +3

    Entertaining the customer is the job. Hire the best people for the job.

    • @wilfredoUbatuba
      @wilfredoUbatuba 2 месяца назад

      what a revolutionary concept !!!

    • @user-ff8rs7gk6r
      @user-ff8rs7gk6r 2 месяца назад

      Thats no longer what their job is. Their job is now to change the culture by preaching nonsense. And they're succeeding.

  • @aidenradcliffe6647
    @aidenradcliffe6647 2 месяца назад +4

    you and critical drinker are my number 1 sources for this stuff and I even watch you more. I honestly thought you had way more subscribers you deserve it

  • @TheGreatSnafoo
    @TheGreatSnafoo 2 месяца назад +3

    They're never gonna change, they are still going ahead with ESG/DEI just changing how they're going to preach it. They're not giving up that Blackrock and Vanguard money.

  • @Darren_Tay
    @Darren_Tay 2 месяца назад +1

    I highly doubt it. If I was betting, I would put money on the stupidity will continue.

  • @rahul6205
    @rahul6205 2 месяца назад +1

    They wanted to make an all female Avengers. Female hulk , female Hawkeye, younger black widow, female Ironman and captain Marvel to replace captain America. Happy to see that's almost ruined

  • @SharpAsRavenClaws
    @SharpAsRavenClaws 2 месяца назад +30

    I know it’s not related to the video, but have you heard about Akira Toryama's death? He was the creator of dragon ball. I wonder if you’ll make a video about it.

    • @bladerunner3314
      @bladerunner3314 2 месяца назад +1

      absolutely overrated

    • @Account2-ng6hr
      @Account2-ng6hr 2 месяца назад +3

      ​@@bladerunner3314 you really desperate for some attention, huh?

    • @bladerunner3314
      @bladerunner3314 2 месяца назад

      @@Account2-ng6hr Awwwwww, found a triggered snowflake, have I?

    • @kiwihero2001
      @kiwihero2001 2 месяца назад

      @@bladerunner3314 He would Kamehameha on your ass for saying that.

    • @SharpAsRavenClaws
      @SharpAsRavenClaws 2 месяца назад

      @@bladerunner3314 why?

  • @danmosley4387
    @danmosley4387 2 месяца назад +6

    In the senate, I vote NO CONFIDENCE.

    • @Danko_Sekulic
      @Danko_Sekulic 2 месяца назад

      I am the Senate, and I approve !

    • @danmosley4387
      @danmosley4387 2 месяца назад

      @@Danko_SekulicSo you believe Bob Iger?

  • @josiah5776
    @josiah5776 2 месяца назад +1

    F Disney. I’ve canceled my subscriptions and won’t buy any of their stuff anymore. Won’t support someone who hates and condemns me just for the traits with which I was born. This is what happens when you hire based on traits and ideology, rather than ability ... starting with Bob Eiger.

  • @swampfaye
    @swampfaye 2 месяца назад

    My husband - a movie fanatic (he can watch anything and find reasons to like it) - said your summary was excellent. High praise.

  • @jesusgaston3457
    @jesusgaston3457 2 месяца назад +13

    Every week I hear that Disney is going to change to make good stories and in those same weeks I also hear from their leadership that they are doubling down on woke stuff while bob iger and Kathleen Kennedy are there that is not going to change they prefer tanking Disney than to change their course

    • @bl8388
      @bl8388 2 месяца назад

      It's very likely the bigoted and blind leaders at Disney can't fix this problem. When their goal is to punish anyone male, and anyone white, they don't have a good foundation to build engaging and edifying films. They want to "empower," women and minorities while telling them they are eternal victims.
      They claim brown people are poor and oppressed when brown people in the USA are among the poorest AND wealthiest. They claim white people with a high school diploma, but no college degree are "uneducated." Then they praise minorities with no college degree. It's divisive and another brand of supremacy that is just as bad as every other kind.

  • @34dent
    @34dent 2 месяца назад +20

    Who wants another Eternals? Content over virtue signaling is what is needed.

    • @SWOTHDRA
      @SWOTHDRA 2 месяца назад

      We need a reboot

  • @buryitdeep
    @buryitdeep 2 месяца назад +1

    Disney will never get a dollar from me.

  • @nimble_doughnut9757
    @nimble_doughnut9757 2 месяца назад +2

    I remember back in the endgame era of the MCU I would watch all kinds of videos about marvel theory’s and where the story might go and I’d get so excited about the upcoming movies. But now… I watch vids about how the mcu and Disney are crumbling and I can’t help but laugh because they brought it upon themselves.

  • @Tracy_LLC
    @Tracy_LLC 2 месяца назад +7

    If they were smart they would drop Woke-Men 97 and the acolyte two of the most embarrassing and unprofitable projects they have in the works I really can't believe they don't see the epic level of hate and backlash coming.

    • @robertowens2022
      @robertowens2022 2 месяца назад

      For live action, we're race swapping wolverine for a obese black woman who don't need no man to be strong.

  • @hussainmemon5139
    @hussainmemon5139 2 месяца назад +4

    Will you be joining the Critical Drinkers podcast?

  • @nerd26373
    @nerd26373 2 месяца назад +2

    We appreciate your insights. You’ll always have our support.

  • @mogamadrifaatabrahams8643
    @mogamadrifaatabrahams8643 2 месяца назад +1

    Cancel any future Captain Marvel movies
    Shes a horrible character
    Literally can jump start a sun but cant beat a D list villain

  • @AdLockhorst-bf8pz
    @AdLockhorst-bf8pz 2 месяца назад +6

    Why does Disney hate redheads? It strives to eliminate several groups, which is dubious enough, but ... well, with redheads it's painfully obvious.
    Confusingly, the Drinker is not a redhead.

    • @Grubnar
      @Grubnar 2 месяца назад +1

      Maybe when Bob Iger was a young man, he asked a beautiful redhead if she would go with him to the prom ... and she laughed at him and said no!

  • @samym1694
    @samym1694 2 месяца назад +12

    The greatest David vs Goliath moment Critical Drinker ever done.
    Small budget RUclipsrs (David) vs Million Buck Hollywood (Goliath) & guess who won?

  • @DainRiffgin89
    @DainRiffgin89 2 месяца назад +1

    Another big issue is that none of the new characters are resonating with audiences, and that is evident from watching dozens of videos about how Marvel and Star Wars merchandise is clogging discount stores. Every video it’s tons of Shang-chi, The Eternals, and Black Panther (nothing from Antman 3 or the Marvels because they were never ordered in the first place), which have been rotting for years. Hasbro is in huge financial trouble because lots of these toy lines aren’t selling, and it’s little wonder why. People don’t want the figures, because they aren’t featuring characters we care about

  • @savidwatkins9014
    @savidwatkins9014 2 месяца назад +1

    When Kathleen Kennedy steps down the Star Wars franchise is saved without a doubt....

  • @Chazmk
    @Chazmk 2 месяца назад +5

    I love watching the grind you put in, its been a while but like damn, nearly daily uploads for MONTHS

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 2 месяца назад

      10/10 material 😊

    • @thejessegrant
      @thejessegrant  2 месяца назад +4

      Thank you! Hasn’t quite been daily as I’ve dropped the upload schedule to take more time to make my videos better but yeah I love what I do for work so why not do it as much as I can

  • @charlestruppi7793
    @charlestruppi7793 2 месяца назад +7

    All these issues stem from one original sin: DEI. This has caused them to hire people based on their physical and genital characteristics and not talent or competency. So obviously you’re not going to got get any big, visionary stuff from directors, writers producers, etc who’ve never even been involved in a big budget movie before. They’re too busy figuring out what the heck to do for the movie at hand to even contemplate where it’s going down the road.

  • @crymsonknight8436
    @crymsonknight8436 2 месяца назад

    It’s difficult to know who their leader is going to be when they’re not even sure who their bad guys are or the big bad going to be!

  • @PH-ks6qg
    @PH-ks6qg 2 месяца назад +1

    People in the future will look back to these times and say “Damn! The world was really f*cked up back then!”

  • @seancooney368
    @seancooney368 2 месяца назад +8

    Toxic fandom isntca real thing its just people with opinions.

    • @sauronthemighty3985
      @sauronthemighty3985 2 месяца назад +1

      It is a real thing, but they are a group distinct from genuine critics.

  • @auldyin8368
    @auldyin8368 2 месяца назад +3

    Let the whole franchise die on the vine for 10 years, sack all the staff and start again..

  • @stefkukla8533
    @stefkukla8533 11 дней назад

    It's almost impossible to overlook the fact that the MCU began to unravel as soon as Stan Lee died.

  • @timpavloff1567
    @timpavloff1567 2 месяца назад +1

    When it comes to trust I think they crap the bed. Trust is earned & they completely blew it. I'll never be a fan again. Only chance they have is getting rid of everyone responsible.

  • @maynotbe
    @maynotbe 2 месяца назад +5

    go back to being a "traditional family" company, get rid of those weirdo writers, management & staff !

  • @bananaforscale1283
    @bananaforscale1283 2 месяца назад +7

    No they did not respond to you or "critical drinker". This was a clickbait and pointless buzzword salad.

  • @leeboy7139
    @leeboy7139 2 месяца назад +1

    I remember seeing Chitty Chitty Bang Bang when I was a kid and there was an intermission. I forget how long it lasted but the restroom had a long line of both kids and adults. And in those days, kids as young as 5 would regularly go to the restrooms by themselves. Kids and many older adults, have difficulty sitting through a 2.5 hour movie. They should bring back the intermission for movies over 2 hours long. A lot of families wait for a movie to come out on Netflix or Amazon prime or other services to watch a movie at home because not everybody can sit through a movie over 2 hours long. Of coarse an intermission will cut into screenings but it will more than make up for it in increased concession sales and maybe more families and older adults will be willing to sit through a long movie.
    Its not attention span that limits how long many people can sit through a movie, its nature.

  • @DanQuirino1985
    @DanQuirino1985 2 месяца назад

    "We'll focus on our strong projects for now. We just don't exactly know what they are... of if they exist."

  • @powerzx
    @powerzx 2 месяца назад +3

    Disney and other woke have to go bankrupt. Forgiving them would be a great mistake.

  • @yaratv2000
    @yaratv2000 2 месяца назад +3

    You always have fake titles Jesse, just stop, this will kill your credibility.

  • @jhetttiernan2623
    @jhetttiernan2623 2 месяца назад +1

    Too little too late unfortunately. They’ve destroyed so many long cherished IPs and they’ve done so with such inexplicable unmitigated contempt that only the most steadfast of apologists bother to support them. They’ve made every possible mistake imaginable and have just kept repeating them. The only way they can even begin to heal is by doing a complete overhaul on their leadership structure and place safety precautions in place to keep the cancer away. As a start

  • @ParkerCS2
    @ParkerCS2 2 месяца назад +2

    Lucasfilm should start a division like DC Elseworlds titled Legends where they hire fans to make non canon stories and give full creative freedom and not interfere, and let them make faithful adaptations of Expanded Universe material. Disney can still make their crap, but give the option for customers to buy and watch other Star Wars content not part of their continuity. I think the same should apply with Marvel by allowing a division to hire fans to make Marvel movies and shows not part of the MCU and tell good stories with any Marvel related characters and properties without interference from Kevin and Disney.

  • @davidrichardson1636
    @davidrichardson1636 2 месяца назад +1

    There are no people left at Disney able to write and execute quality movies. Moreover, Bob Iger cannot be trusted. Just ask Bob Chapek. Disney has had one flop after another, self-inflicted injuries that have made audiences skeptical of Disney's entertainment products (even the parks) and have cost Disney the ability to generate income and stock value. Disney must change, but Disney does not know how to do this effectively.

  • @lokibrux
    @lokibrux 2 месяца назад

    I'm at the point now where I just don't care about movies anymore. To much damage has been done.

  • @TheAsiandramafreak
    @TheAsiandramafreak 2 месяца назад +1

    Their movies are so formulaic and generic, you see one movie. You see them all

  • @budsak7771
    @budsak7771 2 месяца назад

    After the way Disney has shown how manipulative they've been it's surprising see how many people are excited to see what they will come up with next.

  • @StingNicks
    @StingNicks 2 месяца назад +1

    THANK YOU !! I am not alone wishing we could go back 10 yrs to better times. Its bad when the most popular streaming titles are all from 80s and 90s. When movies had story and entertained instead of "the message" and trying to force agendas down our throats.

  • @stephenphillips7699
    @stephenphillips7699 2 месяца назад

    What messed me about was Dr Strange 2, imagine watching the first film and being excited about the 2nd only to discover that you had to watch a TV series firstly to understand the next film.

  • @breesco
    @breesco 2 месяца назад

    Interesting that Iger would make a distinction between "employees" and "creatives."

  • @teekay_1
    @teekay_1 2 месяца назад

    Disney has a weird thing about hiring actresses with eyes that are about an inch too far apart.

  • @francobenevento7598
    @francobenevento7598 2 месяца назад

    Solution: Give Dennis Villanueve a billion dollars and complete control over the MCU.

  • @msd5808
    @msd5808 2 месяца назад

    I wouldn't think there could be good stories and characters in superhero movies. It's about men dressed up in tights, wearing capes, with magical powers. It's little boy's stuff.

  • @BigBazz-Clips
    @BigBazz-Clips 2 месяца назад +1

    disney complains about toxic fans while still hiring the most toxic actors they can find

  • @christophervalentine4474
    @christophervalentine4474 2 месяца назад +1

    Personally I still wouldn’t trust them! It shouldn’t have taken them this much for them to get a clue. If they tried this garbage once, they will do again when they think we have our guard down.

  • @MrSeanmcgall
    @MrSeanmcgall 2 месяца назад +1

    The world is modernizing, we've gotten to the point where the company can't ignore it's customer, Disney is now in a bad place because of their inability to ignore their customers.

  • @sharedfiles8131
    @sharedfiles8131 2 месяца назад

    Six years between the first and second Dr. Strange movies-- and then the second one turned out to be a Scarlet Witch movie...

  • @ez-8238
    @ez-8238 2 месяца назад +1

    Oh look toxic Disney calling people who are not toxic...Toxic.

  • @atsanonwadsanthat166
    @atsanonwadsanthat166 2 месяца назад +1

    If it takes just a few people to topple down those "creative" endeavors, then they're all on shaky foundation to begin with. It's simple as that.

  • @peterblood50
    @peterblood50 2 месяца назад +1

    Disney has lost it's heart and that's where their problems start and finish. Over the last few decades Disney has morphed from being an entertainment company interested in providing solid stories that always had a little tug at your heart in them to a paranoid group of Ivory Tower pinheads with an unlimited bank of lawyers who threatened anyone who so much as whispered the words "Mickey Mouse". They threatened to sue a local daycare that had hung self-made Disney characters on a fence surrounding the play area for kids 5 years and younger. Pretty pathetic really. They looked like a soulless monster attacking a bunch of preschoolers. I have no love for Disney and steer my families youngsters away from their toxicity.