I have three brands of 2mm holder that I use - these faber castells, staedtler 780c, and Mitsubishi uni holders, and I put different brands of lead in them, koh I noor lead in the staedtler holders. (Because staedtler range is too narrow. Kin goes to 8b) They’re all good but I think the staedtlers are most comfortable.
If you have multiple leads, do you feel that there's a consistency of hardness across brands? Cause I have Staedler HB 0.5mm and KIN 2mm leads, one 2B, 2mm FaberCastell in TK9400 and I feel like that Staedler 0.5mm HB is more soft than others, but It might be pressure on 0.5mm. I'm using mostly KIN stuff, cause it's it's a local company and it's stuff is widespread. And when it comes to stuff, I guess quality is on par with Faber Castell and Staedler is above. TK9400 is better than KIN Versatils only because it's lighter and tip is thinner.
@@pavelperina7629 Japanese brands are darker. For instance 4b uni (the darkest uni) is close to a 6 KIN. And faber castell runs a little lighter than KIN. Iirc so does staedtler. The quality does vary, KIN breaks more easily than the other brands but it goes much darker so it’s moot. KIN is scratchy, uni is smooth. Faber Castell is the best at modulating tone with a light touch.
Great review. Lovely all the pencil in this video. I do love using the Faber-Castel however it doesn’t include a sharpener so my edc would have to be the Rotring 300.
Please,have you tried the Staedtler 780? I wonder why most choose that pencil,instead of the Faber Castell TK 9400/4600 ones. Does anybody know if the Staedtler performs with more precision?
hi there, yes i have used it before. i dont see anything wrong with staetdler, its just ugly, thats all. i have no idea why most people use staedtler than faber castell. ( i mean in my country, people use faber castell more than staedtler…)
@@penpencilpaintseriously?! "ugly"? The Staedtler Mars Technico been around since the 70s, my dad was a draftsman in the late 70s, he used it for over 10 years, this pencil has been used by draftsman, architects, engineers, carpenters, designers, writers etc, it has a long standing history and many professionals have sworn by it because of how durable it is, my dad's staedtler lead holder is still working today, he passed it to me, it's over 35 years old and still writes smoothly.
@@penpencilpaintno problem, I don't mean any offence, both got their pros and cons, I like both, I do prefer the knurled grip section of the Staedtler as it helps with holding my fingers in place, I think that's why people like this particular feature, I wished FC had a knurled grip lead holder as I have sweaty fingers as it can feel slippery. Both lead holder brands got built in sharpeners, so that's a cool and practical feature.
@@TheMrAlgohI can say the same about KIN Versatiles. They are basically indestructible, only paint can wear a little, but it's a thick layer (Plastics used for Versatiles in 70s and 80s was poor quality and got brittle with age). But choosing between TK9400 and KIN5900 is about tip shape and weight - and I understand why people prefer Faber Castell for practical reasons, not for having all-metal pencil). PS: It's interesting that people in this discussion and somewhere else complain about leads sliding back on KIN pencils, I have 5900, 5228 and 5608 and they all seem to hold maybe 3kg pressure when tip starts to crush. 5608 has some issues with using sharpener thou, whole internal part rotates.
Great video. Nice to see I'm not the only one who likes the plastic ones :) I've recently been looking for clutch pencils and I agree that the metal ones are just too heavy. I have the Faber-Castell TK9400 for 2mm, and have ordered a 3.15mm. Can you tell me if 3.2mm leads will fit into yours, and which brands? (Other than FC's own). The reason I ask is that I've read that Japanese Mitsubishi Uni leads glide more smoothly, so it would be better for drawing. The lead that came with my FC 2.0 is a little draggy on paper, compared to my thin Japanese Pentel Ain Stein leads for my thin mechanical pencils, which glide like butter. I'm looking to try a bigger clutch pencil, too. But I have small hands and don't think writing with that big Koh-I-Noor that you have would work for me. I tried a Koh-I-Noor 5356, 3.8mm, which is great for shading. It is well-balanced, not point-heavy at all, since it doesn't have the gnurled metal grip, which irritates my skin. It's about twice as thick as my FC but not as thick as your black plastic Koh_I-Noor, or that red pencil - a Worther Shorty? But unfortunately it is medium-heavy at about 29 grams vs. about 12 grams for the FC TK9400. I'd still keep it if I can't find something better, but like you said, it has an unusual lead size that can be a problem to find refills for. Also, I really don't like how when you hold the pencil perfectly vertical on the page, the lead slides back into the pencil, just with very light pressure. Does your black plastic 5.6mm Koh-I-Noor do that? Now I'm wondering if someone makes narrower 5.6mm that are not made of metal, for all us people with small hands and sensitive skin?
hi Rose, thanks for watching my video, i had to read your comment multiple times to answer your questions correctly : ) 1. about 3.2mm lead fits to fc tk9400 3.15 mm clutch pencil??? to be honest, i haven’t tried (just…. never thought about trying out) but i think it will work? its just only 0.05mm difference, not 0.5mm, i think it will, 2. you said the fc2.0 is draggy in the paper, : your new tk9400 3.15 wont have feedbacks as much as your 2.0, since the lead you will use will be 4b -6b , i use 5b and it is smooth. fc lead is one of the best, japanese are slightly smudgier and fc or staedtler are little bit firm, but if u use over 5b, i dont think the lead will be draggy on any paper. 3. yes, mitsubishi lead will be buttery smooth, but, also slightly waxy, also slightly stickier?? thats how i felt when i used mitsubishi. for me, it was littlebit hard to control since it was too glidy, also, not sure mitsubishi has 3.2 or 3.15mm lead size…. 4. koh-i-noor : i have used this brand few times and in my opinion, i think it really sucks, i dont think i will ever use this brand again, the lead slides back with just a little pressure, and the parts breaks and fall off……. it is just total disaster. 5. 29grams : i think slightly heavy ?? i tried to answer all of your questions, hope my comment will be helpful, if u have more questions, leave a comment, i will try my best to answer ( not that i am saying i know everything : )) thanks again for watching : )
@@penpencilpaint Thank you so much for answering my many questions :) I am grateful for you sharing your experience. I'm pretty sure most 3.2mm leads will fit into a FC TK9400 3.15mm pencil, but I just wondered if you'd ever tried them. I hadn't thought about softer leads being smoother on paper, but that makes sense. I have some Faber-Castell in 2B and some Staedtler Mars Carbon leads in 2mm. I have ordered some Mitsubishi Uni 2mm leads, so I will test them to see if they feel more, or less, draggy/waxy/sticky. If you have not used Pentel Ain Stein leads (0.3-0.9 sizes) I love them because they are so smooth. Even the 2H 0.3 leads are much less scratchy on the paper than my 2H wooden pencils. Maybe I just like more glide-i-ness than you do :) I agree about Koh-I-Noor being bad/disappointing. I do like how easy it is to shade evenly with bigger leads, though. So I think I will return my Koh-I-Noor 5356 (even though it is fairly slim) and try to find a somewhat thin, light 5.6mm, which should make shading large areas even easier. I am curious about the Kaweco. It has a plastic body which is lightweight. But it is very wide, though, and reviewers say it develops cracks near the tip after a while. So the search continues...
@@DreamQuillRose I’ve tried a lot of 5.6 mm lead holders from koh I noor, cretacolor, pacific arc and others and they were all too bulky or heavy. The best one I’ve found is also the cheapest - by boxun. It’s lightweight plastic and has the smallest diameter. It’s pretty comfortable. The barrel grip is slippery though so I tape it with color coded masking tape.
@@reginaldforthright805 Thanks; I'll check it out. Does the boxun grip well even if you point it straight down vertically and press with average firmness? The Koh-I-Noor 5356 had a very weak grip so it would not hold the lead when used vertically.
Can anybody recommend me a lead holder type? I was using a mechanical one from Faber Castell before, but I broke it when trying to dissamble it. I will start learning writing arabic calligraphy and want one for doing some notes while studying. I came here after seeing the TK from Faber Castell in a shop today but wanted to make sure it suits my needs. Any advice will be of great help!
Your channel is one of the best I've found on RUclips!! Keep it up!
thank u so much for saying that, it gives a lot of positive vibe to me. thank u thank u thank u + have a good one : )
Most of the click lead holders will allow you to pull the lead out with the end of the holder depressed. 😊. Thank you for a great video.
I have three brands of 2mm holder that I use - these faber castells, staedtler 780c, and Mitsubishi uni holders, and I put different brands of lead in them, koh I noor lead in the staedtler holders. (Because staedtler range is too narrow. Kin goes to 8b) They’re all good but I think the staedtlers are most comfortable.
I wish Rotring will bring back the ArtPencil.
If you have multiple leads, do you feel that there's a consistency of hardness across brands? Cause I have Staedler HB 0.5mm and KIN 2mm leads, one 2B, 2mm FaberCastell in TK9400 and I feel like that Staedler 0.5mm HB is more soft than others, but It might be pressure on 0.5mm. I'm using mostly KIN stuff, cause it's it's a local company and it's stuff is widespread. And when it comes to stuff, I guess quality is on par with Faber Castell and Staedler is above. TK9400 is better than KIN Versatils only because it's lighter and tip is thinner.
@@pavelperina7629 For the most part. If you get a B HB H3 H2 H9 etc etc its mostly the same no matter what brand you buy. At least that's what I see.
@@pavelperina7629 Japanese brands are darker. For instance 4b uni (the darkest uni) is close to a 6 KIN. And faber castell runs a little lighter than KIN. Iirc so does staedtler. The quality does vary, KIN breaks more easily than the other brands but it goes much darker so it’s moot. KIN is scratchy, uni is smooth. Faber Castell is the best at modulating tone with a light touch.
Great review. Lovely all the pencil in this video. I do love using the Faber-Castel however it doesn’t include a sharpener so my edc would have to be the Rotring 300.
I love the Faber Castell green color, very iconic
Please,have you tried the Staedtler 780? I wonder why most choose that pencil,instead of the Faber Castell TK 9400/4600 ones. Does anybody know if the Staedtler performs with more precision?
hi there, yes i have used it before. i dont see anything wrong with staetdler, its just ugly, thats all.
i have no idea why most people use staedtler than faber castell. ( i mean in my country, people use faber castell more than staedtler…)
@@penpencilpaintseriously?! "ugly"? The Staedtler Mars Technico been around since the 70s, my dad was a draftsman in the late 70s, he used it for over 10 years, this pencil has been used by draftsman, architects, engineers, carpenters, designers, writers etc, it has a long standing history and many professionals have sworn by it because of how durable it is, my dad's staedtler lead holder is still working today, he passed it to me, it's over 35 years old and still writes smoothly.
@@TheMrAlgoh hi there , the performance is good, nothing wrong with it. I dont know…. it just looks ugly? to me 😅😅😅 i like tk series better 😅
@@penpencilpaintno problem, I don't mean any offence, both got their pros and cons, I like both, I do prefer the knurled grip section of the Staedtler as it helps with holding my fingers in place, I think that's why people like this particular feature, I wished FC had a knurled grip lead holder as I have sweaty fingers as it can feel slippery. Both lead holder brands got built in sharpeners, so that's a cool and practical feature.
@@TheMrAlgohI can say the same about KIN Versatiles. They are basically indestructible, only paint can wear a little, but it's a thick layer (Plastics used for Versatiles in 70s and 80s was poor quality and got brittle with age). But choosing between TK9400 and KIN5900 is about tip shape and weight - and I understand why people prefer Faber Castell for practical reasons, not for having all-metal pencil).
PS: It's interesting that people in this discussion and somewhere else complain about leads sliding back on KIN pencils, I have 5900, 5228 and 5608 and they all seem to hold maybe 3kg pressure when tip starts to crush. 5608 has some issues with using sharpener thou, whole internal part rotates.
Great video. Nice to see I'm not the only one who likes the plastic ones :) I've recently been looking for clutch pencils and I agree that the metal ones are just too heavy. I have the Faber-Castell TK9400 for 2mm, and have ordered a 3.15mm. Can you tell me if 3.2mm leads will fit into yours, and which brands? (Other than FC's own). The reason I ask is that I've read that Japanese Mitsubishi Uni leads glide more smoothly, so it would be better for drawing. The lead that came with my FC 2.0 is a little draggy on paper, compared to my thin Japanese Pentel Ain Stein leads for my thin mechanical pencils, which glide like butter.
I'm looking to try a bigger clutch pencil, too. But I have small hands and don't think writing with that big Koh-I-Noor that you have would work for me. I tried a Koh-I-Noor 5356, 3.8mm, which is great for shading. It is well-balanced, not point-heavy at all, since it doesn't have the gnurled metal grip, which irritates my skin. It's about twice as thick as my FC but not as thick as your black plastic Koh_I-Noor, or that red pencil - a Worther Shorty? But unfortunately it is medium-heavy at about 29 grams vs. about 12 grams for the FC TK9400. I'd still keep it if I can't find something better, but like you said, it has an unusual lead size that can be a problem to find refills for. Also, I really don't like how when you hold the pencil perfectly vertical on the page, the lead slides back into the pencil, just with very light pressure. Does your black plastic 5.6mm Koh-I-Noor do that?
Now I'm wondering if someone makes narrower 5.6mm that are not made of metal, for all us people with small hands and sensitive skin?
hi Rose, thanks for watching my video, i had to read your comment multiple times to answer your questions correctly : )
1. about 3.2mm lead fits to fc tk9400 3.15 mm clutch pencil???
to be honest, i haven’t tried (just…. never thought about trying out) but i think it will work? its just only 0.05mm difference, not 0.5mm, i think it will,
2. you said the fc2.0 is draggy in the paper, : your new tk9400 3.15 wont have feedbacks as much as your 2.0, since the lead you will use will be 4b -6b , i use 5b and it is smooth.
fc lead is one of the best, japanese are slightly smudgier and fc or staedtler are little bit firm, but if u use over 5b, i dont think the lead will be draggy on any paper.
3. yes, mitsubishi lead will be buttery smooth, but, also slightly waxy, also slightly stickier?? thats how i felt when i used mitsubishi. for me, it was littlebit hard to control since it was too glidy,
also, not sure mitsubishi has 3.2 or 3.15mm lead size….
4. koh-i-noor : i have used this brand few times and in my opinion, i think it really sucks, i dont think i will ever use this brand again, the lead slides back with just a little pressure, and the parts breaks and fall off……. it is just total disaster.
5. 29grams : i think slightly heavy ??
i tried to answer all of your questions, hope my comment will be helpful, if u have more questions, leave a comment, i will try my best to answer ( not that i am saying i know everything : ))
thanks again for watching : )
@@penpencilpaint Thank you so much for answering my many questions :) I am grateful for you sharing your experience.
I'm pretty sure most 3.2mm leads will fit into a FC TK9400 3.15mm pencil, but I just wondered if you'd ever tried them.
I hadn't thought about softer leads being smoother on paper, but that makes sense. I have some Faber-Castell in 2B and some Staedtler Mars Carbon leads in 2mm. I have ordered some Mitsubishi Uni 2mm leads, so I will test them to see if they feel more, or less, draggy/waxy/sticky. If you have not used Pentel Ain Stein leads (0.3-0.9 sizes) I love them because they are so smooth. Even the 2H 0.3 leads are much less scratchy on the paper than my 2H wooden pencils. Maybe I just like more glide-i-ness than you do :)
I agree about Koh-I-Noor being bad/disappointing. I do like how easy it is to shade evenly with bigger leads, though. So I think I will return my Koh-I-Noor 5356 (even though it is fairly slim) and try to find a somewhat thin, light 5.6mm, which should make shading large areas even easier. I am curious about the Kaweco. It has a plastic body which is lightweight. But it is very wide, though, and reviewers say it develops cracks near the tip after a while. So the search continues...
@@DreamQuillRose I’ve tried a lot of 5.6 mm lead holders from koh I noor, cretacolor, pacific arc and others and they were all too bulky or heavy. The best one I’ve found is also the cheapest - by boxun. It’s lightweight plastic and has the smallest diameter. It’s pretty comfortable. The barrel grip is slippery though so I tape it with color coded masking tape.
@@reginaldforthright805 Thanks; I'll check it out. Does the boxun grip well even if you point it straight down vertically and press with average firmness? The Koh-I-Noor 5356 had a very weak grip so it would not hold the lead when used vertically.
@@DreamQuillRose yes, it has a good, solid grip
Can anybody recommend me a lead holder type? I was using a mechanical one from Faber Castell before, but I broke it when trying to dissamble it. I will start learning writing arabic calligraphy and want one for doing some notes while studying. I came here after seeing the TK from Faber Castell in a shop today but wanted to make sure it suits my needs. Any advice will be of great help!
… tge farber castell tk has a sharpener in its lid…
TK9400 does not, the other model does.
It was a nice thought to add music, but it's way too loud. Your review is lost behind an elevator music
hi there, i am so sorry about the music, i do have that sort of problem 😥😥 i will figure that out in future videos, thanks for watching
Just describe it as a mechanical pencil with a THICC lead