Can the Petra set be used on Xilonen instead of Instructors for Mavuika ,Bennet , Citlali and Xilonen team ? If yes can u show what is the dmg increase and decrease.Thank you
So I have a question, right now I am using kinich, traveler dendro, Bennett, xiangling, I wanted to pull for mavuika to replace xiangling, I don't want her to be a main dps, is she usefull in that my team, I'm sorry I am new you prob explained in video but I didn't understand it.
Here's the thing, I have all pryo except leyne and Klee. I am still pulling her not for main dps or exploration. No, she directly buffs my Eula and xinyan and zhongli. If you don't know how she does this then you need to start looking at characters actual kits.
@Jrmy_Makaveys just like with Raiden. No one will care about her off-field if it's weaker than her on-field. Raiden only started the off-field praise when you could use it to trigger hyperbloom.
@marcopala5432 you may get diminishing returns tho OwO and even if you didn't, there is only 4 party slots so you would trade other units :'3 while bennett + this hypothetical unit could work together and even be bis in a team or two, in most cases you would rather prefer someone else. For example, in Mavuika's team you would have to choose between xilonen or citlali. Choosing no Citlali means no reactions (melt) so your damage drops a lot, and choosing Bennett over Xilonen (who shreds RES, gives DMG% and Fightning Spirit) when you already have another ATK buffer would feel worse i think :3
I love how y'all figure out the best builds for every situation. I'm the lazy guy tho, who can't be bothered swapping artifacts every outing, and will be looking for the best fit-once-and-forget-it options. 😂
Would be nice to see some team alternatives without Bennet and see the comparison between him and the second best option. I don't think I'm alone in avoiding Circle Impact like the plague.
U are not alone, there's only one Bennett and two sides on the abyss, I will just slap royal ritual on Rosária and call it a day, hopefully I get her weapon to mitigate the lack of circle impact
Dehya mountain King unfinished reverie / mavuika beacon of the reed sea tenacity of the millileth / xinlonen cinder city peak patrol song / Emily deepwood memory
I think you didn't mentioned that Furina's off field damages at C2 are a lot higher than Citlali and very much relevant, as well as the added consistency of vape compaired to melt
true, these 13% advantages easily interrupt the damage of the Furina itself, and if the enemies come out in waves, then the Furina will be even better, also the Furina's c2 is generally a better investment than Citlali's c2
@@cat-em3mjtrue, and there’s only one furina. a lot of other teams in the game need/want her so the likelihood of her being taken by ur other team already is not low 🤷♀️
Thanks for all the team DPS calcs! It gives me a comparison to my off-meta teams which seem to be less than half of those DPS numbers 📉 (yes we're likely making different assumptions, but I doubt I'm off by over 40% from your numbers). If Hoyo raises Abyss HP again to around 4.5 million HP bosses without something they are extremely weak against, a lot of the off-meta showcases will start needing to be carried by mid-refine 5 star weapons or high constellation supports, given a lot of off-meta is in the 40k to 60k DPS range, with slightly off meta still less than 70k DPS like your Wriothesley example, or Alhaitham hyperbloom.
A consideration I didnt hear mentioned- As a c2 Xilo haver I was planning to skip Citlali in favor of Mavuika cons. Later it occured to me.. if I pull Citlali, not only do I have the option to run Mavuika's celestia killer comp.. but also, Citlali frees up Xilonen to help the team on the other side of the abyss which is somewhere I will often want her. Between that, an extra cryo IT char, and just wanting Citlali from a char design perspective, this seems to be the best acct value for me. If I miss Mav c2, can grab that on the rerun.. Citlali only the other hand could get put in the rerun freezer like all the other cryo 5stars >.>
True, and same! Freeing up the two of them makes damn near any team work on their side I think the only time my Xilonen would free up for Mavuika is when I can run Nliou bloom on the other team
Im def getting c1 Mav this round, but does Mav not gain fighting spirit while under the effects of her burst? Here I thought c1 and Citlali would be enough to cap easy
Hyperwebster calc showing c0 mav/citlali @ 148 FS on second rotation(starts at 200 for first) Given that Mav c1 gives her 40 more FS, and 25% increased FS efficiency Im still inclined to believe c1 mav+citlali will FS cap
4:02 Isn't it better to use Archaic Petra on Xilonen instead of Instructor? Weird that TGS didn't even mention it once, because it has higher uptime(10s) and better buff(35% elemental dmg bonus) than Instructor. 8:18 Another suggestion is using Freedom Sworn on Xilonen.
I think if you want to be really optimal about it, for the Xilonen-Bennett-Citlali team, it should be Citlali on cinder city, you keep Xilonen on instructors, but you have Archaic Petra on Bennett. The rotation is still unchanged: Mavuika -> Xilonen -> Bennett (pick up crystallize shard) -> Citlali -> Mavuika
Considering that Mavuika really benefits from EM and already has a lot of Attack in her kit, isn't a good option to play her with Kazuha C2 instead of Bennet, maybe with a C6 Diona? I'm thinking about this rotation: Mavuika skill, Xilonen Skill+Burst, Diona skill+Burst, Kazuha Burst (Cryo swirl), then Mavuika Burst+CA. The Cryo app should be good enough to melt Mavuika Burst and a couple of CA, with a massive +400 EM. Opinions?
As a person who doesn't own xilonen the only good thing abt mavuika seems like the exploration. Might go for granny instead for my arle. Awesome vid regardless
@@jude508.3 I don't have any Natlan characters. Having her as a replacement for xiangling is not worth primos. And using her as DPS without any Natlan characters is clunky
Bro stop letting theory crafters brainwash you. Having less than optimal damage isn't as bad as they like to pretend. The game is not that difficult and those guys just love to complain. When they say you "can't use her" without xilonen, what they actually mean is she is suboptimal without her. That suboptimal damage is still more than enough to clear any content in the game.
@@JPsychesI know you're a drone with the mind of a goldfish but please, just this one time remember what you are saying after she's out. Please learn to remember your mistakes and learn from them. Please gain sentience instead of just mindlessly repeating what zajef says
Great breakdown, TY! Citlali looks to have the best value for anyone looking for account-wide horizontal investment. I personally love that my C2 Xilonen works on almost any team. I'll pull for Citlali, certain that she will work on teams even beyond Mavuika.
Something to notice is that getting Mavuika’s weapon is very much unlikely, and quite cost inefficient, as the odds for the weapon banner are worse. Getting a versatile character like Citlali will provide many more uses than just increasing a single characters damage, besides it always being better, even in its worse scenario.
Sure but Citlali is looking to be a really good and relevant character anyway. This means it will be a banner with two very valuable weapons so even if you lose the 50 50 you may end up with a good option
Thank you for the content, I was really wondering what I should go for since I have enough pulls to reach another pity and this helped a lot. You're the best!
hm, im also not fully excited for the archon ( I was before ) but I know ATLEAST she will have her first rerun early so that I can RE-THINK about her if I don't get her on 1st banner
I think she relies on natlan supports more than Bennett for the most part. If you don't have Citlali or Xilonen she doesn't get as much nightsoul generation.
For real, she really needed a rework in her beta and she would've been sold more if she was this replacement we all asked for ! But Hoyo decided to make us go f*ck ourselves and released Arle powercreep instead ! Guess Genshin is the new HSR now !
If you can only choose 1, go for Citlali. Mavuika will rerun in like 4 patches like every other archon while Citlali may share the same fate as Wriothesley and not have a single rerun after release.
I have saved up 350 wishes to get both Mavuika and Citlali C0 and maybe weapons. I will probably slot Citlali in my Neuvilette - Furina - Kazuha team, so that my Zhongli can finally be free for other teams. Still not sure where to use Mavuika, I skipped all Natlan banners so far.
if you REALLY want to put citlali in that neuv team and you don’t have a specific use for mavuika in mind you’re better off skipping mavuika 😭 if you want both of them though just put citlali in your mavuika team. consider pulling xilonen on her rerun, too… she’s a better zhongli replacement in that team (if you have c1)
Got Xilonen with yer signature, 110 pulls going into this patch and I'm at 70 pity on 50/50. I'm crossing my fingers so I get Mavuika on 50/50, then going for granny, then signature Mavika, and I hope the person that came up with both Mavuika and Citlali come out together gets a stomach infection, and spends a full week on the toilet.
Fr, I can maybe understand Instructors but having to juggle circle impact and proper TTDS -> DPS rotation when I'm too focused on enemy pattern to pay attention to at what point of the rotation I am in is just not fun? Like if people are into that, more power to them but I have not touched TTDS since 2.0 came out and while I do occasionally still use Bennett, whenever there's an option to NOT use him, I will gladly bench him. Shoutout to quicken reactions my beloved, you'll always be my number one for sparing me the pain of circles.
@@purplecosmonautTTDS is the least of the concerns considering there's no reason to swap to Citlali anytime other than right before swapping to Mavuika 😭 if anything, instructor and AP are bigger issues bc while they're the best sets to support her besides scroll, they're terrible to use with relatively low uptime, since they're often triggered early in the rotations of her best teams, then there's also the pain that is to build Citlali with anything other than scroll, bc her ER reqs are rly high and with a 4* set it's even harder to build her
I have a question about C1. It says that Mavuika's max nightsoul points is 120, and she gains fighting spirit 25% more efficiently. Does this mean when she consumes all 120 nightsoul points she gains 150 fighting spirit (120*1.25)?
My issue with mauvuika is that, i have the top three pyro dpses built and levelled up with their best teams, hutao, lyney and arlechinno, she just feels like a slight upgrade yet again, i am not feeling like pulling her besides i dont have her best teammate xilonen, so what is the incentive to pull her. I do like her design but what do i do with the other pyro dpses, she is not bringing anything new to the table, i think i would jsut go citlali
She is also the best Pyro off fielder which Hu Tao, Lyney and Arlechino cant do and gives at minimum 40 and maximum 90 damage bonus to a on field unit + the best movement in the game. She is so much more than just a dps.
I have both of them too and also Dehya and Diluc and still will pull for her because I'm sure she'll be way more pleasant to play just by having an "ignore interruption" stance, synergy with healings and not needing any animation cancel. It's just spin to win... And also because I'm sick of Xiangling
Thank you so much for all the efforts you put into you videos. I really was looking forward to pull for her sig, however as someone who almost never pulls on the weapon banner, I can't help but feel hesitant. Specifically, because they put a niche EM catalyst alongside it... I haven't made my decision yet, but I'll see how events will unfold
I don't have xilonen, I'm kinda feeling forced to pull for citlali here as I won't match the nightsoul blessing quota on mauvika without any natlan supports what's should I do ? (Is kachina an option)
Yea both Kachina and Pyro Traveler will be viable, just obviously not as strong as Xilonin or Citloli but it's still viable since they are Natlan characters and will provide the Nightsoul Mavuika needs.
Kachina and PMC works aswell, not as great as Citlali or Xilonen obviously but enough to clear Abyss with. I don't have either so im going with PMC to support her.
Thanks for your video, we don’t get consistent endgame content in Genshin that need us to mid-max this hard. We still have people clearing abyss with 4 stars. I don’t think people would care what they get first or second once they get mavuika. In my case, I have pretty strong 4 star and 5 star teams. When hoyoverse start giving more endgame content with more rewards or hard to obtain rewards, this would be helpful. Also, a new player pull guide video would be great as well. Ty for your hard work.
I mean if you want your Mavuika dmg goes Bigger its ToTM for the Buff. Golden troupe is for Furina Sub dps thingie. But yea i understand if your Furina artefact have already preffect sub stat its dosent matter i guess ? Furina offield dmg its huge.
What rotation do you propose for her C1 to generate 150 FS on its own? It doesn't sound very realistic from my understanding that she;ll generate that in practice
@@luminous3558 during burst she doesn't consume nightsoul and during E it drains at average of 6.5/s. Unless you are sprinting with her bike to purposely deplete her NS you won't drain 120 is my point
Will a team like rosaria, bennet, mavuika and ganyu work? If so how damage loss would swapping some other cryo applier like ganyu for citalali do? Because i do want to keep my furina for the other side of abyss with neuvilette. So, i can only spare xilonen for the other team
Probably not. Mavuika needs another Natlan character or else she will take ages to do her burst. That team would work but you'd need to replace Ganyu with Citlali
It would be nice to see teams without bennet. How much dps would she loose without him? It seems like she not only dependent on xilonen/citlali but also on bennet which is huge downside for me.
All dps are equally reliant on Bennet unless like Neuvellete they are HP scaling. There is nothing in Mavuikas kit that makes her anymore bennet reliant than lets say Navia or Arlechino, he is just always busted with any Atk scaling unit ever.
As I don't have Xilonem, I will need to pull Citilali, so that my Mavuika can Ultar. Then I will try to get your signature weapon. I just hope I don't lose to the Citlali gun or the backpacker's gun, because although it's not guaranteed, I don't have that many shots to spend on gun banners lol.
Wait lets just say I had a Mavuika and Furina but didn't have either Xilonen or Citlali. Who would be a better 5* to pick up FIRST. (I have Xilonen alr, but I wanna get Mav's Sig and Cons, but if Citlali would be a vastly superior pick instead of cons then I'd do that, but this vid didn't really help me with that question)
Okay i am still confused what should I do?? Should i pull mavuika c1 or her weapon. Even though i hate weapon banner. I am gonna pull citali too if i only get her and i don't have any natlan characters
Not sure if this is covered in this video but I have c2 furina, would citlali still be better. I have xilonen and chaska and mualani so I'm not sure if citlali would have enough value for my other units to where she's still good value for my account
@@kraklos thing is: mavuika is both a DPS and a support. A very good one at that. Think about her like a better xianling who can also buff quite relieablly and dosnt need 260+ er to perform. She is just an excelent support that is also a top notch DPS.
Citlali is just a support in Melt and Freeze teams, both very Niche teams with most Pyro DPS prefering Vape and freeze being really bad for a while now. Mavuika is the only other Pyro off field unit we ever got since 1.0 and she is a good support giving at minimum 40% damage bonus and maximum 90% damage bonus.
Thanks! I was on the fence on whether to get Mav C1, Citlali or signature for her, and this vid helped me to take a decision. I will get Mav C1 then maybe signature, so I can play her with all kinds of teams, even if citlali gives me the higuest DPS possible, I dont want my Mav to be stuck with citlali everytime.
her burst consumes nightsoul points during the animation, so it activates obsidian codex, then she refills 10 NS points and stops her NS consumption, if that's what you meant to ask or in other words, just to make it clear: if her burst is full, you only need her skill if her pyro app is needed during setups or if you need it to trigger Mailed Flower, otherwise you can ignore her skill until you need it to generate FS
i can understand, like there r many player who don't wanna keep changing character sets or simply don't change their sets or even pieces after they r done building, specially if THAT character is versetile
imma just slap totm on citali and call it a day cos i aint bothered to strongbox whole new petra set and its awkward ass playstyle for xilonen who i want on other teams besides mavuika
did u forget about archide petra ( zongli sig set ) its really good in xilonen and easy to use it on her than on zongli as she dashes towards enemies when used her skill, xilo on petra with citlali on cindercity with bene on obless
Ok... im not good with building teams but hypothetically... if you have C2 furina, I could get away from not having xilonen and stick with bennet c5 and citlali right? I dont have funds for xilonen at that time so i dont have her
Its probably STILL Citlali in practice Because the game fundamentally benefiting shorter rotations and larger frontload. The c2 furina teams will end up with higher dpr though. @@rafael285pc
It would be nice to see some 4-star weapon calcs for Mavuika that don't use Mailed Flower -- I get why people use it, but it's an almost 2-year-old event weapon that a lot of players won't have, and since there aren't really other weapons that offer both atk and EM in the same measure, I don't know how to expect the calcs you show to compare to what I might expect with the weapon options I actually have, which unfortunately makes those calcs kinda useless for me
@@peanutbutter3588 that's specifically weapons ranked for *vape* teams with Furina, not *melt*, which are likely Mavuika's highest ceiling teams while Tidal Shadow is likely to perform similarly as long as you have a healer on the team, the sheer amount of attack it gives is kinda devalued by Bennett's presence on most of her best teams, and the EM Mailed Flower gives is even more valuable in melt teams than in vape because the multiplier for forward melt is 2x while the multiplier for reverse vape is only 1.5x and Rainslasher is just not that great an option for melt teams, as to activate the passive the enemy has to be affected by hydro or electro, so it would basically just be an EM statstick, and you should probably just go for an atk weapon (like Tidal Shadow) and use an EM sands at that point Mailed Flower gets used for calcs because it's more universally good across more team archetypes, rather than being situational, and it gets chosen over Serpent Spine R1 because Mavuika already has a lot of sources of crit rate, which I can understand But the fact that Mailed Flower is completely inaccessible if you started playing after March 2023 -- during patch 3.5, when we're getting 5.3 in less than a week at the start of 2025 -- is just kinda shitty if I'm being honest It would be like if Fleuve Cendre Ferryman didn't exist when Furina was released, and TCs only calced with Festering Desire -- the option that most frequently is shown as Mavuika's best "f2p" option, because it's what gets used in all the calcs, is a weapon that's completely inaccessible because I can't go back in time to get it from an event that no longer exists
TGS, I’m considering C2 Citlali to push Arlecchino to her limits and I’d rather get C2 on a support character (Citlali) than C2 on a DPS character (Arlecchino). Is C2 Citlali with C0 Arlecchino roughly the same damage increase as C2 Arlecchino with C0 Citlali? Can you advise me what to get? Thanks a lot
Ohhh, thank you for this video. I must to skip Mavuika. Only Natlan character I have is Kachina. It is sad that she need another Natlan support to work correctly.
[ Mavuika c2 and Serpent Spine r1 + Xilonen c0 and Fav + Furina c2 and Key + Bennett c6 and Fav ] Is Citlali c0 still better than Furina in this situation?
@@UnbelievableLins furina doesn't lock any teams comps even if your healer is single target, nahida C1 is whatever, Raiden never needed C1 to work on any teams, same with zhongli and same with venti Mavuika if you don't have a natlan character on the comp, her ultimate might as well no even reach 50%
@@mahdi2093 aah u don't want to swap artifacts? 😂 Tbh if ur gonna play citlali and xilonen u will prob have to do that quit often cuz both of them can be played on multiple teams. Both their best in slot set is the scroll set but on mavuika teams they can't both use it so 1 of the 2 has to be on a different set. From what i've seen online most people plan to use petra on xilo or instructor. But just see what works out for u
can. But that means they have to omit the one unit with the most optimal result. Which is the purpose of a guide. That is more of a Hoyo problem than the guidemaker problem.
what I’m wondering is that on a vape team, am i better off putting Xilonen on Cinder City and Mavuika on Codex or Xilonen on Petra and Mavuika on Cinder City
I have a question for exploration. Does her C1 actually let you use her motor cycle longer for exploring? Or is the extra night soul only for damage calculation?
If it continues the trend of all Natlan characters' C1 allowing you to use the mobility mechanic longer, it should. You'll want to wait for testing to check: there should be plenty of whale creators uploading side-by-side comparison videos on day 1.
@@GodChaos333it will increase just her ability to "run", 12->18 sec. But her c0 timings on flying (3 sec), swimming (3 sec) and climbing (1 sec) remain the same. To increase those, you need her c6, then it's 3->6, 3->6, 1->2
So I Need 2000 dollars to maximize her DMG for contents that need 1/4 of her DMG. Certainly I'll do that... Really can't explain myself why people still pulling costs for no difficulties in the game. We only have 1 abyss per month, and it's not even that hard
i think fewer people than usual will regret skipping the new archon. She offers 2 things: on-field damage, for which many have Arle, and off-field pyro, for which everyone has Xiangling. Mavuika is just not unique enough, even if she is better at what she offers -> she's much more easily replaced than Furina or Nahida. Personally I'm counting days till I can finally get Mavuika and she will make *my* account much better, but I don't expect many skippers to truly feel like they missed out
@@sof5495 If Abyss 12 becomes that silly (build the team that's designed for it or else !@#$ off), I'm gone. Hopefully Hoyo is less crazy than that, and instead adds in a whale/meta club endgame for that. I like the Abyss 12 to remain "easy" as a lot of posts say (even though well over half of the playerbase likely doesn't even clear Abyss 12-1), so that off-meta like me can still try funny teams if we don't want to skip the challenge by button-mashing the meta team in there. I already dropped other online RPGs and gachas when they made the endgame so predatory that only whale spending or taking the same amount of time as a job grinding is the only way to make progress in any of the endgame modes.
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Can the Petra set be used on Xilonen instead of Instructors for Mavuika ,Bennet , Citlali and Xilonen team ? If yes can u show what is the dmg increase and decrease.Thank you
@demonkilz1518 Yes. Similar Value. Forgot to mention it :X
@@TheGenshinScientist Thank you
So I have a question, right now I am using kinich, traveler dendro, Bennett, xiangling, I wanted to pull for mavuika to replace xiangling, I don't want her to be a main dps, is she usefull in that my team, I'm sorry I am new you prob explained in video but I didn't understand it.
@TheGenshinScientist is it better to go for c1 or c2 rather than r1 signature
Finally a character that can use such a niche support like Bennett
yup he's been waiting since 1.0 to be useful.
About time
Still barely workable.. Even qiqi would be better
C6 fixes all his team problems
I actually just built him today in preparation for Mavuika, been playing since 2023..
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Thanks, this was very helpful
Thank goodness they made Mavuika a Pyro DPS. We really needed one after how long ago Arlecchino, Gaming and Lyney were.
Thank goodness I skipped all of them
Here's the thing, I have all pryo except leyne and Klee. I am still pulling her not for main dps or exploration. No, she directly buffs my Eula and xinyan and zhongli. If you don't know how she does this then you need to start looking at characters actual kits.
Yeah why they cant make her useful as an off fielder... Oh wait she does and you know it but you need to make the complain because its the trend
@Jrmy_Makaveys just like with Raiden. No one will care about her off-field if it's weaker than her on-field. Raiden only started the off-field praise when you could use it to trigger hyperbloom.
Bro is so ignorant, her off field is raining thunder
All they would have to do is copy/paste Bennett but make a 5-star version where you don't have to stand in that stupid circle and I'd whale.
With lower energy requirements and a longer-lasting burst.
Yeah, many of us were hoping for that. Kinda sick of playing circle impact with Bennett.
thankfully mavuika is not that
If it comes out, the best team would be bennet+them so bennett will still be part of the teams
@marcopala5432 you may get diminishing returns tho OwO and even if you didn't, there is only 4 party slots so you would trade other units :'3 while bennett + this hypothetical unit could work together and even be bis in a team or two, in most cases you would rather prefer someone else. For example, in Mavuika's team you would have to choose between xilonen or citlali. Choosing no Citlali means no reactions (melt) so your damage drops a lot, and choosing Bennett over Xilonen (who shreds RES, gives DMG% and Fightning Spirit) when you already have another ATK buffer would feel worse i think :3
Bennett still proving himself to be the true pyro archon to this day
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nah mavuika is a better character
Does that make Xilonen to true Geo Archon? Or does this only aply when agenda pushing is needed?
@@Spacecowboy1997 Even mavuika needs a Bennet for her strongest team Bennet is irreplaceable
Bro is reincarnation of Xbalanque
I love how y'all figure out the best builds for every situation.
I'm the lazy guy tho, who can't be bothered swapping artifacts every outing, and will be looking for the best fit-once-and-forget-it options. 😂
They are nerds
@user-og9nl5mt1b Genshin is an anime fighting and gacha game. we are ALL nerds, buddy 😭
@AlbedoOfMondstat they are nerds with glasses
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@@user-og9nl5mt1b Sounds cooler than nerds playing with one hand
Would be nice to see some team alternatives without Bennet and see the comparison between him and the second best option. I don't think I'm alone in avoiding Circle Impact like the plague.
her burst initial hit doing most of the dmg is a good thing because it's guaranteed to stay in bennett circle
You're not alone, we're together in this pain
U are not alone, there's only one Bennett and two sides on the abyss, I will just slap royal ritual on Rosária and call it a day, hopefully I get her weapon to mitigate the lack of circle impact
Dehya mountain King unfinished reverie / mavuika beacon of the reed sea tenacity of the millileth / xinlonen cinder city peak patrol song / Emily deepwood memory
EULA verdict pale flame / Mika song of days hp Pollard / zongli tenacity hp polarm / mavuika c2 cinder city Makhaira Aquamarine
I think you didn't mentioned that Furina's off field damages at C2 are a lot higher than Citlali and very much relevant, as well as the added consistency of vape compaired to melt
true, these 13% advantages easily interrupt the damage of the Furina itself, and if the enemies come out in waves, then the Furina will be even better, also the Furina's c2 is generally a better investment than Citlali's c2
melt is just a better reaction in general.
@@cat-em3mjtrue, and there’s only one furina. a lot of other teams in the game need/want her so the likelihood of her being taken by ur other team already is not low 🤷♀️
Thanks for all the team DPS calcs!
It gives me a comparison to my off-meta teams which seem to be less than half of those DPS numbers 📉 (yes we're likely making different assumptions, but I doubt I'm off by over 40% from your numbers).
If Hoyo raises Abyss HP again to around 4.5 million HP bosses without something they are extremely weak against, a lot of the off-meta showcases will start needing to be carried by mid-refine 5 star weapons or high constellation supports, given a lot of off-meta is in the 40k to 60k DPS range, with slightly off meta still less than 70k DPS like your Wriothesley example, or Alhaitham hyperbloom.
From beginning to end, every detail in this video answered my exact questions
A consideration I didnt hear mentioned- As a c2 Xilo haver I was planning to skip Citlali in favor of Mavuika cons. Later it occured to me.. if I pull Citlali, not only do I have the option to run Mavuika's celestia killer comp.. but also, Citlali frees up Xilonen to help the team on the other side of the abyss which is somewhere I will often want her. Between that, an extra cryo IT char, and just wanting Citlali from a char design perspective, this seems to be the best acct value for me. If I miss Mav c2, can grab that on the rerun.. Citlali only the other hand could get put in the rerun freezer like all the other cryo 5stars >.>
Same idea - in fact I can free up furina - which is even more important
True, and same! Freeing up the two of them makes damn near any team work on their side
I think the only time my Xilonen would free up for Mavuika is when I can run Nliou bloom on the other team
Mavuika does not wanna give up Xilonen to the other side though. Maybe if you get C1 Mav and are willing to sprint on her bike to consume NS faster
Im def getting c1 Mav this round, but does Mav not gain fighting spirit while under the effects of her burst? Here I thought c1 and Citlali would be enough to cap easy
Hyperwebster calc showing c0 mav/citlali @ 148 FS on second rotation(starts at 200 for first)
Given that Mav c1 gives her 40 more FS, and 25% increased FS efficiency Im still inclined to believe c1 mav+citlali will FS cap
4:02 Isn't it better to use Archaic Petra on Xilonen instead of Instructor? Weird that TGS didn't even mention it once, because it has higher uptime(10s) and better buff(35% elemental dmg bonus) than Instructor.
8:18 Another suggestion is using Freedom Sworn on Xilonen.
mhm, im pretty sure in teams with both Citlali and xilonen you want xilonen on petra and citlali on scroll.
I think if you want to be really optimal about it, for the Xilonen-Bennett-Citlali team, it should be Citlali on cinder city, you keep Xilonen on instructors, but you have Archaic Petra on Bennett. The rotation is still unchanged: Mavuika -> Xilonen -> Bennett (pick up crystallize shard) -> Citlali -> Mavuika
Nah, my Furina is forever stuck with Neuvilette.
NeuvaWHO?
this is a great breakdown on how to build mavuika teams, much appreciated!
Hope you so a similar video for Granny Citlali! Thanks for the in-depth investment guide!
Considering that Mavuika really benefits from EM and already has a lot of Attack in her kit, isn't a good option to play her with Kazuha C2 instead of Bennet, maybe with a C6 Diona? I'm thinking about this rotation: Mavuika skill, Xilonen Skill+Burst, Diona skill+Burst, Kazuha Burst (Cryo swirl), then Mavuika Burst+CA. The Cryo app should be good enough to melt Mavuika Burst and a couple of CA, with a massive +400 EM. Opinions?
Good team
EULA verdict pale flame / Mika song of days hp Pollard / zongli tenacity hp polarm / mavuika c2 cinder city Makhaira Aquamarine
For the rotation, I would swirl pyro then apply cryo and use Kazuha’s burst
Very unlikely that Kazuha's burst infuses with cryo instead of pyro. Replacing a pyro aura with cryo takes 3 consecutive applications.
EDIT: Maybe if you use Kazuha's hold E to remove the pyro aura and the timing is right it is possible.
Keep up the good work brother. I am more hyped and informed thanks to your videos.
Can't wait to try these comps in game!Thanks for this!
As a person who doesn't own xilonen the only good thing abt mavuika seems like the exploration. Might go for granny instead for my arle. Awesome vid regardless
Considering the limitations and restrictions on top of the circle dps rotation. She just seems mid.
DID YOU JUST SAY THAT CUZ IF XILOENE MUVIKA IS USELESS BE YOU HEAR YOUR SELF ??? BRO SHE ISNT RLLY THAT RELIANT ON THE CAT
@@jude508.3 I don't have any Natlan characters. Having her as a replacement for xiangling is not worth primos. And using her as DPS without any Natlan characters is clunky
Bro stop letting theory crafters brainwash you. Having less than optimal damage isn't as bad as they like to pretend. The game is not that difficult and those guys just love to complain.
When they say you "can't use her" without xilonen, what they actually mean is she is suboptimal without her. That suboptimal damage is still more than enough to clear any content in the game.
@@JPsychesI know you're a drone with the mind of a goldfish but please, just this one time remember what you are saying after she's out. Please learn to remember your mistakes and learn from them. Please gain sentience instead of just mindlessly repeating what zajef says
Great breakdown, TY! Citlali looks to have the best value for anyone looking for account-wide horizontal investment. I personally love that my C2 Xilonen works on almost any team. I'll pull for Citlali, certain that she will work on teams even beyond Mavuika.
Something to notice is that getting Mavuika’s weapon is very much unlikely, and quite cost inefficient, as the odds for the weapon banner are worse. Getting a versatile character like Citlali will provide many more uses than just increasing a single characters damage, besides it always being better, even in its worse scenario.
yeah will try to go c2 mauvika c0 citlali and use a 4 star weapon if i get enough primos by the end of the version maybe pull for her weapon
Sure but Citlali is looking to be a really good and relevant character anyway. This means it will be a banner with two very valuable weapons so even if you lose the 50 50 you may end up with a good option
How are the odds for weapon banner worse?
@ 33% chance instead of 50% to get the desired 5* item.
@@TheodoreNoises why is that the case?
Best Mauvika video Ive seen so far
I'll try to go for both characters and Mavuikas Signature. Had some bad luck with my pulls lately, maybe it turns around with the new banner.
Thank you for the content, I was really wondering what I should go for since I have enough pulls to reach another pity and this helped a lot. You're the best!
Mauvika has me 2nd guessing wether I end up pulling for her. I'll have to wait and see if she's worth it for my account I guess.
Thank you for the video, great and clear presentation of priorities in different scenarios.
My mavuika will hold the heroes set and an r5 fav claymore cuz she will be a support for kinich
REAL - using fav for particles for the rest of the team right?
just use pyro mc
@@thatoneweebguy6379 True
Those white particles arent worth losing that much of her personal dmg, the er main stat is completely useless on her too
Triggering the Cinder City effect with burning on the enemy is near impossible. She won't be buffing him most of the time.
That slow-mo is fantastic!
Mavuika may be the first Archon I skip because a character still being dependent on Circle Impact after 5 years is just inexcusable.
If she is c2 she reaches 5500 atk by herself so she doesn't give a damn about Bennet Anymore lol
hm, im also not fully excited for the archon ( I was before ) but I know ATLEAST she will have her first rerun early so that I can RE-THINK about her if I don't get her on 1st banner
I think she relies on natlan supports more than Bennett for the most part. If you don't have Citlali or Xilonen she doesn't get as much nightsoul generation.
For real, she really needed a rework in her beta and she would've been sold more if she was this replacement we all asked for ! But Hoyo decided to make us go f*ck ourselves and released Arle powercreep instead ! Guess Genshin is the new HSR now !
U gonna skip CryoArchon as well xd
Im glad I didn't skip Xilonen. I want Citlali alongside Mavuika but Im f2p so I can only choose one 😔
Then choose wisely. We don't want you blaming Mavuika in the future 😅😅😅
Me too, but I'm getting Mavuika since I don't have a Pyro dps yet.
If u already has pyro dps get citlali n skip mav bc new archon rerun early
If you can only choose 1, go for Citlali. Mavuika will rerun in like 4 patches like every other archon while Citlali may share the same fate as Wriothesley and not have a single rerun after release.
I would halt for citlali. Unless you like her.
Since skirk is confirmed a cryo dps. Citlali may find herself already overshadowed.
I have saved up 350 wishes to get both Mavuika and Citlali C0 and maybe weapons.
I will probably slot Citlali in my Neuvilette - Furina - Kazuha team, so that my Zhongli can finally be free for other teams.
Still not sure where to use Mavuika, I skipped all Natlan banners so far.
Its your best bet to use Citlali with Mavuika until you get other Natlan characters on re run or new ones come out
Bruh just use Citllali with Mavuika, because Citlali won't bring much to Neuvilett's team instead of Zhongli
if you REALLY want to put citlali in that neuv team and you don’t have a specific use for mavuika in mind you’re better off skipping mavuika 😭 if you want both of them though just put citlali in your mavuika team. consider pulling xilonen on her rerun, too… she’s a better zhongli replacement in that team (if you have c1)
WoW that was a particularly great video, very useful and clear, thanks
Got Xilonen with yer signature, 110 pulls going into this patch and I'm at 70 pity on 50/50. I'm crossing my fingers so I get Mavuika on 50/50, then going for granny, then signature Mavika, and I hope the person that came up with both Mavuika and Citlali come out together gets a stomach infection, and spends a full week on the toilet.
With 250 pulls hoping to get mavuika and citlali (already have xilonen and bennet c6) and will probably throw the rest at the weapon banner (gambling)
bros talking about bennet, instructors, and thrilling tales like its 2020.
Fr, I can maybe understand Instructors but having to juggle circle impact and proper TTDS -> DPS rotation when I'm too focused on enemy pattern to pay attention to at what point of the rotation I am in is just not fun? Like if people are into that, more power to them but I have not touched TTDS since 2.0 came out and while I do occasionally still use Bennett, whenever there's an option to NOT use him, I will gladly bench him.
Shoutout to quicken reactions my beloved, you'll always be my number one for sparing me the pain of circles.
@@purplecosmonaut wtf are you talking about ttds has a super easy passive to use
@@purplecosmonautTTDS is the least of the concerns considering there's no reason to swap to Citlali anytime other than right before swapping to Mavuika 😭
if anything, instructor and AP are bigger issues bc while they're the best sets to support her besides scroll, they're terrible to use with relatively low uptime, since they're often triggered early in the rotations of her best teams, then there's also the pain that is to build Citlali with anything other than scroll, bc her ER reqs are rly high and with a 4* set it's even harder to build her
I have a question about C1. It says that Mavuika's max nightsoul points is 120, and she gains fighting spirit 25% more efficiently. Does this mean when she consumes all 120 nightsoul points she gains 150 fighting spirit (120*1.25)?
My issue with mauvuika is that, i have the top three pyro dpses built and levelled up with their best teams, hutao, lyney and arlechinno, she just feels like a slight upgrade yet again, i am not feeling like pulling her besides i dont have her best teammate xilonen, so what is the incentive to pull her. I do like her design but what do i do with the other pyro dpses, she is not bringing anything new to the table, i think i would jsut go citlali
She is also the best Pyro off fielder which Hu Tao, Lyney and Arlechino cant do and gives at minimum 40 and maximum 90 damage bonus to a on field unit + the best movement in the game.
She is so much more than just a dps.
I have both of them too and also Dehya and Diluc and still will pull for her because I'm sure she'll be way more pleasant to play just by having an "ignore interruption" stance, synergy with healings and not needing any animation cancel. It's just spin to win...
And also because I'm sick of Xiangling
She can replace your xiangling as a off field dps which Arle,Hutao and Lynney cannot do.
Thank you TGS, clear and on point as always.
Thank you so much for all the efforts you put into you videos. I really was looking forward to pull for her sig, however as someone who almost never pulls on the weapon banner, I can't help but feel hesitant. Specifically, because they put a niche EM catalyst alongside it... I haven't made my decision yet, but I'll see how events will unfold
What is the best last slot for Mavuika/Bennett/Xilonen archetype? My Furina is glued to my Neuvillette
Citlali, Ganyu can work, Rosaria too, any good source of hydro or cryo
@MrSquishy0 is Rosaria enough for Cryo application by herself
Chiori
Zhongli
@@MrSquishy0 I can't afford Citlali, does Rosario have enough application by herself?
This video is very useful. Thank you tgs❤
I don't have xilonen, I'm kinda feeling forced to pull for citlali here as I won't match the nightsoul blessing quota on mauvika without any natlan supports what's should I do ? (Is kachina an option)
Yea both Kachina and Pyro Traveler will be viable, just obviously not as strong as Xilonin or Citloli but it's still viable since they are Natlan characters and will provide the Nightsoul Mavuika needs.
Ororron would be pretty good in overload if you him and chevruse.
@@Estrio21 thanks man, really appreciate it
C1 also fixes her nightsoul needs which is same pulls as citlali
Kachina and PMC works aswell, not as great as Citlali or Xilonen obviously but enough to clear Abyss with.
I don't have either so im going with PMC to support her.
This video was awesome! Great content
its time to retire hu tao, thank you goat for serving me for 3 years.
3 years??? That's 3 years of suffering
@@feiht5487How dare you! She has been my main since release and will continue to be my main even after Mavuika's release.
@@feiht5487I think she meant Hu Tao is her only pyro main for 3 years now 😅😅😅
@tristanmanalo6252 nah she was my actual main from 3 years lol, one side of the abyss always got destroyed by her, I personally love her playstyle.
Thanks for your video, we don’t get consistent endgame content in Genshin that need us to mid-max this hard. We still have people clearing abyss with 4 stars. I don’t think people would care what they get first or second once they get mavuika. In my case, I have pretty strong 4 star and 5 star teams. When hoyoverse start giving more endgame content with more rewards or hard to obtain rewards, this would be helpful. Also, a new player pull guide video would be great as well. Ty for your hard work.
Forcing C1 to fix her is disgusting, not even Furina is this racist
THANK YOU MAN I NEEDED THIS SO MUCH
Wouldn't using Golden troupe on Furina be better for overall team dmg ?
It’s the ToM. Because it buffs Mavuika who her damage is way higher than Furina. Also it’s still increasing Furina's damage by giving her 20% HP.
I mean if you want your Mavuika dmg goes Bigger its ToTM for the Buff. Golden troupe is for Furina Sub dps thingie. But yea i understand if your Furina artefact have already preffect sub stat its dosent matter i guess ? Furina offield dmg its huge.
Not changing artifacts until they give loadouts.
@manday2267Anyway, I don't think people have a good ToM crit set with good ER, unlike golden troup, so this is basically not a realistic.
@@madyou4210 Oh. Make sense.
Bennett meta is finally real! I can't wait to use him!
What rotation do you propose for her C1 to generate 150 FS on its own? It doesn't sound very realistic from my understanding that she;ll generate that in practice
You press E
120*1.25 = 150
@@luminous3558 during burst she doesn't consume nightsoul and during E it drains at average of 6.5/s. Unless you are sprinting with her bike to purposely deplete her NS you won't drain 120 is my point
If citlali in team, i think xilonen can use petra
Will a team like rosaria, bennet, mavuika and ganyu work? If so how damage loss would swapping some other cryo applier like ganyu for citalali do?
Because i do want to keep my furina for the other side of abyss with neuvilette. So, i can only spare xilonen for the other team
Probably not. Mavuika needs another Natlan character or else she will take ages to do her burst. That team would work but you'd need to replace Ganyu with Citlali
@@robertomartins1329 Xilonen ganyu rosaria mavuika? Xilonen should be enough to get mavuika's 200 fighting spirit right?
@@moinakbhowmik1319swap ganyu out for bennett. as for xilonen being enough for mavuikas burst, maybe? probably just annoying
Kinda awkward that her best team involves both Xilonen and Citlali and both wants Cinder City. Switching artifacts would be a pain.
It would be nice to see teams without bennet. How much dps would she loose without him? It seems like she not only dependent on xilonen/citlali but also on bennet which is huge downside for me.
All dps are equally reliant on Bennet unless like Neuvellete they are HP scaling.
There is nothing in Mavuikas kit that makes her anymore bennet reliant than lets say Navia or Arlechino, he is just always busted with any Atk scaling unit ever.
About 40-60% less damage
imagine C2R1 mavuika, C2R1 xilonen, C6 bennett (for the pyro damage bonus) and C2R1 citlali lmao. Not even the local legends surviving this one
400 wishes saved for her after 8 months…
Pull citlali too and save for xilonen rerun if u want the best of pyro archon
C1 Mavuika C3 Qiqi 😨
@@jothamdockie5172 actually the only primos I spent in the 8 months was on Xilonen cus she was too good not to get lol
Here I'm hoping to get both mavuika and citlali with just 90 pulls lol
As I don't have Xilonem, I will need to pull Citilali, so that my Mavuika can Ultar. Then I will try to get your signature weapon. I just hope I don't lose to the Citlali gun or the backpacker's gun, because although it's not guaranteed, I don't have that many shots to spend on gun banners lol.
Wait lets just say I had a Mavuika and Furina but didn't have either Xilonen or Citlali. Who would be a better 5* to pick up FIRST.
(I have Xilonen alr, but I wanna get Mav's Sig and Cons, but if Citlali would be a vastly superior pick instead of cons then I'd do that, but this vid didn't really help me with that question)
Mavuika C1 and then C2
the flow charts for wish priorities 👏
Thank god spending more money maximises more value
💀💀💀
Okay i am still confused what should I do?? Should i pull mavuika c1 or her weapon. Even though i hate weapon banner. I am gonna pull citali too if i only get her and i don't have any natlan characters
Not sure if this is covered in this video but I have c2 furina, would citlali still be better. I have xilonen and chaska and mualani so I'm not sure if citlali would have enough value for my other units to where she's still good value for my account
Similar value to Citlali C0
@@TheGenshinScientist what about xilonen c2
@@rafael285pc Not quite but overall decent replacement.
The weapon banner really put me on Citlani hands
Bro is milking mavuika so hard and I am all for it
i still remember the good old days (literally january of this year) when 65k dps was more than good enough to clear any abyss
this is the first archon I'm going to willingly skip in favour of another unit, Citlali seems much more useful in general. support > DPS
Mavuika does support, she does off field damage, can provide the cider city buff and a damage bonus to the active character from her burst.
@MrSquishy0 yeah I know, but I already have arle c1r1 and plenty of other dps, anyway I'll try to get her on her rerun (it won't take long)
Nah shes Not More useful In general I think Citlali Have more restrictions Than Mavuika Since she Only Buff melts team
@@kraklos thing is: mavuika is both a DPS and a support. A very good one at that. Think about her like a better xianling who can also buff quite relieablly and dosnt need 260+ er to perform. She is just an excelent support that is also a top notch DPS.
Citlali is just a support in Melt and Freeze teams, both very Niche teams with most Pyro DPS prefering Vape and freeze being really bad for a while now.
Mavuika is the only other Pyro off field unit we ever got since 1.0 and she is a good support giving at minimum 40% damage bonus and maximum 90% damage bonus.
Thanks! I was on the fence on whether to get Mav C1, Citlali or signature for her, and this vid helped me to take a decision. I will get Mav C1 then maybe signature, so I can play her with all kinds of teams, even if citlali gives me the higuest DPS possible, I dont want my Mav to be stuck with citlali everytime.
Thanks to you, I won't be pulling her❤, I'll pull for Arle and chlorinde and weapon banner. Thanks for the advice.
Yeah she's pretty dependant on Natlan characters. although there's substitute it won't be her best. Arle is indeed more F2P friendly.
@Yes-zx4ts yeah, I'll just build Pyro traveller for my Kinich 🌚
Do you E first if her burst is full? Or Q and then E? Idk if either changes anything but just making sure
her burst consumes nightsoul points during the animation, so it activates obsidian codex, then she refills 10 NS points and stops her NS consumption, if that's what you meant to ask
or in other words, just to make it clear: if her burst is full, you only need her skill if her pyro app is needed during setups or if you need it to trigger Mailed Flower, otherwise you can ignore her skill until you need it to generate FS
so basicaly if I want another pyro DPS, pull C0, if I want an actual Xianling substitute, pull C1 or C2.
C2
C2 synergies with Xinyang zhongli EULA
I dont have furina neither a good weapon should i go for weapon or citali
Got it, I will make both Xilonen and Citlali use Cinder City
I don't want to farm outside of Cinder City domain for now
strongbox got ur back tho
you can always use the strongbox ;)
i can understand, like there r many player who don't wanna keep changing character sets or simply don't change their sets or even pieces after they r done building, specially if THAT character is versetile
imma just slap totm on citali and call it a day cos i aint bothered to strongbox whole new petra set and its awkward ass playstyle for xilonen who i want on other teams besides mavuika
Strongbox Petra ! It won't be difficult to get good pieces since she scales off DEF !
I was excited for my burgeon Archon team and now it seems just to be a dream..😂😢
I AM TOO EXCITED SO IM WATCHIN ALL MAVUIKA VIDEOS
Even Mavuika can't escape from the king Bennett, what a shame archon!
did u forget about archide petra ( zongli sig set ) its really good in xilonen and easy to use it on her than on zongli as she dashes towards enemies when used her skill, xilo on petra with citlali on cindercity with bene on obless
Archaic petra is not Zhonglis signature set, Tenacity is.
Ok... im not good with building teams but hypothetically... if you have C2 furina, I could get away from not having xilonen and stick with bennet c5 and citlali right?
I dont have funds for xilonen at that time so i dont have her
Another archon to skip and this is the worst one imo XD
8:39 Would Citlali’s signature be better than TTDS if Citlali is at C1/C2?
Yes but similar overall
@ I see, thank you for letting me know, being forced to play around TTDS is a hellish experience lmao
Who is the best between furina c2 or citlali c0 for Mavuika ?
that is a good question because i have c2 furina
@@rafael285pcprobably C2 furina, if comparing with c0r0 citlali, but with her signature and cons citlali will be better
Its probably STILL Citlali in practice
Because the game fundamentally benefiting shorter rotations and larger frontload.
The c2 furina teams will end up with higher dpr though.
@@rafael285pc
I would like an answer as well, I have a c3 Furina and I kinda don't want to get Citlali.
it's easily furina c2 since half of xilonen vaue is gone by giving cinder cuty to citlali
She will be my Tartaglia team sub-dps
It would be nice to see some 4-star weapon calcs for Mavuika that don't use Mailed Flower -- I get why people use it, but it's an almost 2-year-old event weapon that a lot of players won't have, and since there aren't really other weapons that offer both atk and EM in the same measure, I don't know how to expect the calcs you show to compare to what I might expect with the weapon options I actually have, which unfortunately makes those calcs kinda useless for me
6:31
@@peanutbutter3588 that's specifically weapons ranked for *vape* teams with Furina, not *melt*, which are likely Mavuika's highest ceiling teams
while Tidal Shadow is likely to perform similarly as long as you have a healer on the team, the sheer amount of attack it gives is kinda devalued by Bennett's presence on most of her best teams, and the EM Mailed Flower gives is even more valuable in melt teams than in vape because the multiplier for forward melt is 2x while the multiplier for reverse vape is only 1.5x
and Rainslasher is just not that great an option for melt teams, as to activate the passive the enemy has to be affected by hydro or electro, so it would basically just be an EM statstick, and you should probably just go for an atk weapon (like Tidal Shadow) and use an EM sands at that point
Mailed Flower gets used for calcs because it's more universally good across more team archetypes, rather than being situational, and it gets chosen over Serpent Spine R1 because Mavuika already has a lot of sources of crit rate, which I can understand
But the fact that Mailed Flower is completely inaccessible if you started playing after March 2023 -- during patch 3.5, when we're getting 5.3 in less than a week at the start of 2025 -- is just kinda shitty if I'm being honest
It would be like if Fleuve Cendre Ferryman didn't exist when Furina was released, and TCs only calced with Festering Desire -- the option that most frequently is shown as Mavuika's best "f2p" option, because it's what gets used in all the calcs, is a weapon that's completely inaccessible because I can't go back in time to get it from an event that no longer exists
Rainslasher performs similar in vape unfortunately in melt it falls off due to passive not working
TGS, I’m considering C2 Citlali to push Arlecchino to her limits and I’d rather get C2 on a support character (Citlali) than C2 on a DPS character (Arlecchino).
Is C2 Citlali with C0 Arlecchino roughly the same damage increase as C2 Arlecchino with C0 Citlali?
Can you advise me what to get? Thanks a lot
Roughly yes but Arlecchino's C2 gives her a big frontload nuke that calcs can't quite evaluate
@ Thanks for the answer
I think C2 Arlecchino is more fun.
You'd waste your primos if you don't get arle's C2
Get C2 father it's awesome, the flexibility is insane
Ohhh, thank you for this video. I must to skip Mavuika. Only Natlan character I have is Kachina. It is sad that she need another Natlan support to work correctly.
[ Mavuika c2 and Serpent Spine r1 + Xilonen c0 and Fav + Furina c2 and Key + Bennett c6 and Fav ]
Is Citlali c0 still better than Furina in this situation?
im so happy that her C1 improves her sub dps ability, totalling pulling for that and will just give gravestone to her
C1 to fix a 5 ⭐ character is disgusting
@nexuhs
You are few years late with this, bozo.
@@UnbelievableLins furina doesn't lock any teams comps even if your healer is single target, nahida C1 is whatever, Raiden never needed C1 to work on any teams, same with zhongli and same with venti
Mavuika if you don't have a natlan character on the comp, her ultimate might as well no even reach 50%
@@nexuhs. fix? she's already very good and c1 improves it
My pyro main dpss: mavuika melt, arle overload, hutao vape. Now i have 3 pyro team
But I'm more interested in granny 🌝
then watch a video about her 🌚
Then pull for her 😊
@@deedeesga34 I have watched few videos about her kit and values
@Clumpatious will do. I'm currently in 60 pity with 50-50 😭
@ i hope u win it!!
We can put tenacity to citlali? Because my xilo have the other set🤔
Just test it out. It will prob work but using scroll on citlali and petra on xilo is just better
@ but I just build xilo 😅
@@mahdi2093 aah u don't want to swap artifacts? 😂 Tbh if ur gonna play citlali and xilonen u will prob have to do that quit often cuz both of them can be played on multiple teams. Both their best in slot set is the scroll set but on mavuika teams they can't both use it so 1 of the 2 has to be on a different set.
From what i've seen online most people plan to use petra on xilo or instructor. But just see what works out for u
@@alexsjarif ok thanks 🙏
I've decided to not pull for her due to her forever attachment to Natlan characters because of the nightsouls mechanic.
Trying to attain Mavuikas weapon is difficult indeed. But an investment on the character nonetheless.
I wish guidemakers would exclude Bennett from team building.
can. But that means they have to omit the one unit with the most optimal result. Which is the purpose of a guide. That is more of a Hoyo problem than the guidemaker problem.
It's like watching some cooking tutorial and complaining about the chef turning on stove
@@pyronado4320 Except this is a video game, and not cooking. Not everyone wants to use Bennett.
@@JoyBoyAlter eating salad your whole life is always an option 🤷♂️
@@pyronado4320 That'd be terribly boring. Much like Bennett being used everywhere.
what I’m wondering is that on a vape team, am i better off putting Xilonen on Cinder City and Mavuika on Codex or Xilonen on Petra and Mavuika on Cinder City
GUYS
I have a question for exploration. Does her C1 actually let you use her motor cycle longer for exploring? Or is the extra night soul only for damage calculation?
If it continues the trend of all Natlan characters' C1 allowing you to use the mobility mechanic longer, it should.
You'll want to wait for testing to check: there should be plenty of whale creators uploading side-by-side comparison videos on day 1.
@ I don’t own any other C1 Natland character really. So I didn’t know. Thanks for the info
@@GodChaos333it will increase just her ability to "run", 12->18 sec. But her c0 timings on flying (3 sec), swimming (3 sec) and climbing (1 sec) remain the same. To increase those, you need her c6, then it's 3->6, 3->6, 1->2
So I Need 2000 dollars to maximize her DMG for contents that need 1/4 of her DMG. Certainly I'll do that... Really can't explain myself why people still pulling costs for no difficulties in the game. We only have 1 abyss per month, and it's not even that hard
You don't gotta spend 2k to get Mavuika to c6r5, especially not needed since she is the highest damage c0r1 character already
@ayyjay1575 I was talking about the best "investment" for her
People are just coping hard tbh. If they wanna skip then just skip lol, it's not that big of a deal to miss out on a strong character
@@I.disagree I was talking about the investment guide... Not about mavuika, she is good enough at C0
Well you can pull her for free by saving your pulls as f2p not that hard.
Guys do you know how big the difference between R5 Spine and her signature is?
can’t wait for archon skippers crying 1 month from now waiting for a rerun.
We'll see if abyss become that hard so Mavuika would feel like a necessity to play !
same, people can't really see past their expectations and will miss Mavuika in their accounts lmao
i think fewer people than usual will regret skipping the new archon. She offers 2 things: on-field damage, for which many have Arle, and off-field pyro, for which everyone has Xiangling.
Mavuika is just not unique enough, even if she is better at what she offers -> she's much more easily replaced than Furina or Nahida.
Personally I'm counting days till I can finally get Mavuika and she will make *my* account much better, but I don't expect many skippers to truly feel like they missed out
@@sof5495 If Abyss 12 becomes that silly (build the team that's designed for it or else !@#$ off), I'm gone.
Hopefully Hoyo is less crazy than that, and instead adds in a whale/meta club endgame for that. I like the Abyss 12 to remain "easy" as a lot of posts say (even though well over half of the playerbase likely doesn't even clear Abyss 12-1), so that off-meta like me can still try funny teams if we don't want to skip the challenge by button-mashing the meta team in there.
I already dropped other online RPGs and gachas when they made the endgame so predatory that only whale spending or taking the same amount of time as a job grinding is the only way to make progress in any of the endgame modes.
@@studiesinflux1304 which are the off-meta teams you play ?
5:30 ttds on an 18s rotation?