Very welcomed interpretation of colonial history. My only issue is no mention of the Pokanoket People, Massasoit's actual tribe which was located in Rhode Island, present day Bristol. That 's why the meeting you mentioned was even held in Rhode Island at all. . The name Wampanoag did not come into use until after King Philips War when the name Pokanoket was outlawed under penalty of death, his people murdered, enslaved and dispersed, survivors that escaped the area were taken in by local tribes in Massachusetts, Connecticut further North to Abenaki territory, and to Nova Scotia Canada. Verify with Roger Williams University and Sowam's Heritage Area.
Thank you immensely. I live in Plymouth, MA. The resentment garnered from the theft of the land is still palpable here. Tensions rise every Thanksgiving. Amends must be made.
Huh? You aren't responsible for what happened. The modern " Wampanoags" shouldn't get anything. The time for reparations is long past. Yes... learn the history. Thats important. Dont take on the sins of the forefathers. Thats pointless and a waste of time.
Very very sad. Very emotional listening to this. I’m just trying to do research to educate my child on what thanksgiving really is. I pray history doesn’t repeat itself when it comes to this. Thank you for your research. It’s time for everyone to know the truth no matter how gruesome it is!! Ignorance is not an excuse.
I feel the same way. Then I discovered history IS repeating itself, *right now* in a different but same shape. Did you know currently still native Americans all over our country are still being actively abused, r*ped, suppressed at much higher percentage even than African Americans? I feel infuriated that I was taught growing up and in all media as an adult that this was a "past" thing? I didn't find the truth until I went to a sweat lodge with real people who had direct experiences at overwhelming high rates of violence . There is evidence the true numbers of missing and murdered indigenous women are actively being downplayed by our "official" sources .
Wampanoag Here: ** Your audio layer could be easily hacked to change context** I would like to Thank You for your Historical account in which it makes this version more palatable for the immigrants and invaders of this land; of whom I will no longer be educating. I of course have my own feelings about the celebration of my people's ONGOING GENOCIDE as many BIPOC people do. I literally just finished writing this years "Do Not try to put a Pilgrim Hat on my child'" as is required every year. Good Luck with your Book!
The talk does not differentiate between Pilgrims and Puritans and leaves out the migration of Puritans to Boston in 1630(ish) that changed circumstances and attitudes amongst European immigrants. Puritans and Pilgrims were two very different groups even though they shared much of the same beliefs and racist religious feelings of superiority.
Truth needs to reign. However, I wish the author had given all his original references. Wiki is no longer a trusted source, particularly since it has been discovered it is rewriting history.
I would be really shocked if there's any white person in this country who isn't descended from at least one "Pilgrim." I'm watching this because genealogy and Elizabethan England thru Civil War American history is my obsession. I've studied thousands of hours of content. I've also had my DNA tested, and verified over 1,500 people in my family tree. William Bradford is my 10th great grandfather by way of his granddaughter Alice Ripley being my 7th great grandma married to my 7th great grandfather Samuel Edgerton. Myles Standish is also my 10th great grandfather way of him having a son Alexander, who's son Ebenezer had a daughter Hannah, who's daughter Zerviah had a son Abiel, who's daughter Zerviah had a son Franklin, who's daughter Flora had a daughter Eva who had a daughter Flora who had my mom. Also, John Pease is another 10th great grandfather who was in Boston by 1626. He settled on Martha's Vineyard. There are several more than that but I'm not writing a book here. I'm more interested though in my obscure ancestors, like my maiden name Egerton/ Edgerton, or Allen, or, Mullens, or Baker, or White. I think the Pilgrim narrative is just a smoke screen to cover up a whole other history that someone wants us to forget.
I’m white, born raised and reside in SE Massachusetts, and have no Mayflower ancestors. My first ancestors to North America settled in the Canadian Maritimes in the late 1700s. Though I do have a minuscule amount of Mi’kmaq ancestry, a great grandmother 4 generations back. And while I’m proud of all of my heritage I’d never associate myself with Native culture (like many white people do out of some weird fetish).
@VanirTraditionalist So, you're saying you've identified every single one of your 4,096 tenth great grandparents and ruled out all of them as having been on the Mayflower,
@@lindakay9552 I’m saying I can trace each of my great grandparents back to their birthplace in Europe (Azores, Norway, Germany, England, Northern Ireland) and Canada (PEI and Quebec) - and further down the line. Not one of them is a Mayflower descendant or even a New England blue blood.
This land was not stolen we fought a war and the indians lost. Now a better culture won.western christian values are a better way to live. Stop crying about what happened 400 years ago.
They came to a land that already had the Indians living in it, the Indians didn’t want to give up theirs lands. What’s so hard about understanding that? They stole the Indians land
Fuck your western Christian “values”. Are those the “values” that allow a rapist racist felon to take office? Are those the “values” that buried indigenous children in mass graves from “Indian schools”? Are those the “values” that allow priests to molest kids? Your “values” are VALUELESS. Not everyone in this country is Christian and this is not a Christian nation and never has been.
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Very welcomed interpretation of colonial history. My only issue is no mention of the Pokanoket People, Massasoit's actual tribe which was located in Rhode Island, present day Bristol. That 's why the meeting you mentioned was even held in Rhode Island at all. . The name Wampanoag did not come into use until after King Philips War when the name Pokanoket was outlawed under penalty of death, his people murdered, enslaved and dispersed, survivors that escaped the area were taken in by local tribes in Massachusetts, Connecticut further North to Abenaki territory, and to Nova Scotia Canada. Verify with Roger Williams University and Sowam's Heritage Area.
Thank you immensely. I live in Plymouth, MA. The resentment garnered from the theft of the land is still palpable here. Tensions rise every Thanksgiving. Amends must be made.
Then why don't you move to another country...
Huh? You aren't responsible for what happened. The modern " Wampanoags" shouldn't
get anything. The time for reparations is long past.
Yes... learn the history. Thats important.
Dont take on the sins of the forefathers. Thats pointless and a waste of time.
Very very sad. Very emotional listening to this. I’m just trying to do research to educate my child on what thanksgiving really is. I pray history doesn’t repeat itself when it comes to this. Thank you for your research. It’s time for everyone to know the truth no matter how gruesome it is!! Ignorance is not an excuse.
I feel the same way. Then I discovered history IS repeating itself, *right now* in a different but same shape. Did you know currently still native Americans all over our country are still being actively abused, r*ped, suppressed at much higher percentage even than African Americans? I feel infuriated that I was taught growing up and in all media as an adult that this was a "past" thing? I didn't find the truth until I went to a sweat lodge with real people who had direct experiences at overwhelming high rates of violence . There is evidence the true numbers of missing and murdered indigenous women are actively being downplayed by our "official" sources .
My great great grandmother was Wompanoag through Massasoit.
Cj very good information
Wampanoag Here: ** Your audio layer could be easily hacked to change context** I would like to Thank You for your Historical account in which it makes this version more palatable for the immigrants and invaders of this land; of whom I will no longer be educating. I of course have my own feelings about the celebration of my people's ONGOING GENOCIDE as many BIPOC people do. I literally just finished writing this years "Do Not try to put a Pilgrim Hat on my child'" as is required every year. Good Luck with your Book!
The talk does not differentiate between Pilgrims and Puritans and leaves out the migration of Puritans to Boston in 1630(ish) that changed circumstances and attitudes amongst European immigrants. Puritans and Pilgrims were two very different groups even though they shared much of the same beliefs and racist religious feelings of superiority.
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Truth needs to reign. However, I wish the author had given all his original references.
Wiki is no longer a trusted source, particularly since it has been discovered it is rewriting history.
Cj ❣️
People who listen to this can honor the Indians by voting against Israeli genocide of Gaza. Failing that, call yourselves two-faced.
I would be really shocked if there's any white person in this country who isn't descended from at least one "Pilgrim." I'm watching this because genealogy and Elizabethan England thru Civil War American history is my obsession. I've studied thousands of hours of content. I've also had my DNA tested, and verified over 1,500 people in my family tree.
William Bradford is my 10th great grandfather by way of his granddaughter Alice Ripley being my 7th great grandma married to my 7th great grandfather Samuel Edgerton.
Myles Standish is also my 10th great grandfather way of him having a son Alexander, who's son Ebenezer had a daughter Hannah, who's daughter Zerviah had a son Abiel, who's daughter Zerviah had a son Franklin, who's daughter Flora had a daughter Eva who had a daughter Flora who had my mom.
Also, John Pease is another 10th great grandfather who was in Boston by 1626. He settled on Martha's Vineyard.
There are several more than that but I'm not writing a book here.
I'm more interested though in my obscure ancestors, like my maiden name Egerton/ Edgerton, or Allen, or, Mullens, or Baker, or White.
I think the Pilgrim narrative is just a smoke screen to cover up a whole other history that someone wants us to forget.
I’m white, born raised and reside in SE Massachusetts, and have no Mayflower ancestors. My first ancestors to North America settled in the Canadian Maritimes in the late 1700s. Though I do have a minuscule amount of Mi’kmaq ancestry, a great grandmother 4 generations back. And while I’m proud of all of my heritage I’d never associate myself with Native culture (like many white people do out of some weird fetish).
@VanirTraditionalist okay, so I amend my comment to say, "any white person who's ancestors didn't come late in the game. 😋
@VanirTraditionalist So, you're saying you've identified every single one of your 4,096 tenth great grandparents and ruled out all of them as having been on the Mayflower,
@@lindakay9552 I’m saying I can trace each of my great grandparents back to their birthplace in Europe (Azores, Norway, Germany, England, Northern Ireland) and Canada (PEI and Quebec) - and further down the line. Not one of them is a Mayflower descendant or even a New England blue blood.
This land was not stolen we fought a war and the indians lost. Now a better culture won.western christian values are a better way to live. Stop crying about what happened 400 years ago.
They came to a land that already had the Indians living in it, the Indians didn’t want to give up theirs lands. What’s so hard about understanding that? They stole the Indians land
Doesn’t matter if the Pilgrims won the fight or not, they stole the lands.
Fuck your western Christian “values”. Are those the “values” that allow a rapist racist felon to take office? Are those the “values” that buried indigenous children in mass graves from “Indian schools”? Are those the “values” that allow priests to molest kids? Your “values” are VALUELESS. Not everyone in this country is Christian and this is not a Christian nation and never has been.
Cj very good information
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