2:20 Flammarion wasn't an _amateur_ astronomer. He was a _computer_ at the Paris Observatory, i.e. someone who performs mathematical computation of astronomical problems and observations. He also founded the French astronomical society. He was a real astronomer, although not an academically trained one.
That was noble of you. Apologizing for Flamarion, who was not completely guilty, but just a bit. He got more blame than he deserved, too bad! You where quite uncompassionate about it, crossing the t's and dotting the i's. As it should be! Great video! Again.
It was the NYT who told Robert Goddard that his liquid fuelled rockets couldn't work in space as there is no air to push against. They took some 40 years before admitting their mistake.
@@parallaxnick637 Eggsactly. This is why Flat-Earther's, Anti-Vaxxer's and others of their ilk are just so hilarious to listen to, as they propound their farcical arguments. I always need more hot-buttered popcorn before they're finished.
@@soonerarrow Lumping in people who think that the Earth is flat (utter ludicrous), with people who are not altogether sure that pharmaceutical companies act in the most moral of ways (Pfizer, the world's largest drugs company, was hit with the biggest criminal fine in US history of $2.3bn), is in my opinion, more stupid that the average conspiracy theorist.
Journalistic standards have always begun with and ended with: if I write this, is it going to sell? Can I rewrite this easily to sell my writing even more? Ragebait and clickbait have been with us in essence. Ever since the first gossip passed human lips.
Love information like this. It gives history colour. It is a sign of good researcher who updates their commentary with new resources. Also a new video subject "Conspiracies and misunderstandings in science, a history" ( read in the voice of Hermione Granger)
I have a few of Flammarion's books but I didn't know about this aspect. NYT being wrong... noooo... reminds me of in about 1930 when they rubbished Robert Goddard and rockets. They retracted that when Neil and Buzz were on the way to the Moon...
Look up on a movie from 1931 by director Abel Gance called " End of the World" , exact same premise big scare from a comet impact that never happens at the end
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@@parallaxnick637 So they say. But the simplest physics proves otherwise. In fact, spin + orbit = 21 mm/s/s acceleration/deceleration alternating every half revolution or 12 hours, experienced by every object on the surface. But it is not. A simple rock balancing statue disproves your beliefs. ruclips.net/video/AfEbsnOXrX0/видео.html actual physics of the COMBINED EFFECT of just two purported motions of globe earth. Now what, do you get it!
Idk... were you actually wrong? It sounds to me like he kinda brought it on himself. There was absolutely no reason to put all of that fear mongering at the end of his original statement, and then doing it _again_ in his follow up. The media and general public will always latch on to that kind of thing and just ignore the rest. It's always been that way, so I don't know why he would have expected any differently. He may not be _solely_ to blame, but he certainly shares a good portion of it. No apology needed, at least IMO. Love your videos btw. Keep em coming!
I don’t trust anyone that wears* that kind of hat. He’s a sailor on a predreadnaught? What a dumb hat. Keppler knew a good hat. Don’t even start me up on Huygens headwear….
6:48 I dont see any error in his thinking here excepting his (understandable) incomprehension of the age of the Earth, the age of Life on Earth, and the extraordinary abundance of comets. IMO, his error seems to be all-too human, he chose to literally sell solid logical reasoning to a gullible, sensational public, just recently literate as (we are still today), without the context of a modern comprehension of Geologic Time.
To be such a famous science commentator , Mr. Sagan misrepresented a lot of science. “Extraordinary” claims require exactly the same evidence as any other claim.
Someone pointed out that carbonic oxide isn't carbon monoxide, it's carbon dioxide. My bad.
4:55 "... deletrious [sic] gases ..." -- "deleterious"
2:20 Flammarion wasn't an _amateur_ astronomer. He was a _computer_ at the Paris Observatory, i.e. someone who performs mathematical computation of astronomical problems and observations. He also founded the French astronomical society. He was a real astronomer, although not an academically trained one.
That was noble of you. Apologizing for Flamarion, who was not completely guilty, but just a bit. He got more blame than he deserved, too bad! You where quite uncompassionate about it, crossing the t's and dotting the i's. As it should be! Great video! Again.
_It's never too late to do the right thing._
Yep nothing wrong with journalistic integrity today, nosiree.
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❤🎉 love your show man.
Glad to be here early for another video from you, Nick. Thanks for all you do!
Great to hear your voice!
Journalists aren't as bad now as they were in 1910. Now they are much, much worse.
There are no journalists today.
There are shining examples still.
Brian Deer comes to mind .
@@capnmnemo Sharyl Attkisson. Catherine Herridge. Yes, there are a few.
Yes, then it was ignorance. Now it's malice.
@@citizenblue no
Excellent Video! And the Tories out. What a fantastic 24hours.
Love your work. That's why I'm so early.
Mentioning journalistic integrity and The New York Times in the same sentence is quite funny
It was the NYT who told Robert Goddard that his liquid fuelled rockets couldn't work in space as there is no air to push against. They took some 40 years before admitting their mistake.
The debt is paid, the scales are balanced, and the universe, of course, remains indifferent.
"Conspiracy" has a meaning. It does not mean a wide-spread lie or myth.
breathe together ?
Oh, there's a conspiracy element to it. You can't believe something so contrary to reality without assuming someone is covering it up.
@@parallaxnick637 Eggsactly. This is why Flat-Earther's, Anti-Vaxxer's and others of their ilk are just so hilarious to listen to, as they propound their farcical arguments. I always need more hot-buttered popcorn before they're finished.
@@soonerarrow Lumping in people who think that the Earth is flat (utter ludicrous), with people who are not altogether sure that pharmaceutical companies act in the most moral of ways (Pfizer, the world's largest drugs company, was hit with the biggest criminal fine in US history of $2.3bn), is in my opinion, more stupid that the average conspiracy theorist.
Great work, thanks Nick
Hello Nick, So lets see what our new Gov can achieve for as all.....Thankyou for work. Love jeremy xxxx
Fantastic Nick. Thank you for all that you do.
Thanks for the supreme intent
Well said!
Hey. Stop. Don’t be hard on yerself. I’m so psyched there’s a new Nick video I can view from a couple angles. You’re the best Nick.
Journalists misquoting or taking someone's statement out of context? Say it ain't so!
PN! Missed ya dude! Good to know you’re still around…FTA
Love your content.
Journalistic standards have always begun with and ended with: if I write this, is it going to sell? Can I rewrite this easily to sell my writing even more? Ragebait and clickbait have been with us in essence. Ever since the first gossip passed human lips.
As always a riveting listen , I wish you could do a long form presentation a la Horizon
Love information like this. It gives history colour.
It is a sign of good researcher who updates their commentary with new resources. Also a new video subject "Conspiracies and misunderstandings in science, a history" ( read in the voice of Hermione Granger)
@7:30 it looks like Jon Stewart with a Mustache pushing a street cart.... Great Video as always! Thank You!!
also... Was in not Percival Lowell that said the comet's tail would be "so rarified" that it would not be a problem?
@@joethebassplayer Yeah he did. But a lot of other people did too.
Not the first man or scientist whose words were twisted by mass media. Good job correcting. Looks like there might be another book i need to obtain.
Nick is the preeminent astronomy historian on RUclips.
It's a niche that I find fascinating.
I have a few of Flammarion's books but I didn't know about this aspect. NYT being wrong... noooo... reminds me of in about 1930 when they rubbished Robert Goddard and rockets. They retracted that when Neil and Buzz were on the way to the Moon...
lol Papers are still publishing "Asteroid Could Hit the Earth!"
Look up on a movie from 1931 by director Abel Gance called " End of the World" , exact same premise big scare from a comet impact that never happens at the end
Which was based on a book by Camille Flammarion believe it or not.
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The scrupulousness demonstrated by this video being made at all is its own rebuke to the self-indulgence and knavery of its subjects.
earth is motionless, now what?
It falls into the Sun.
@@parallaxnick637 So they say. But the simplest physics proves otherwise. In fact, spin + orbit = 21 mm/s/s acceleration/deceleration alternating every half revolution or 12 hours, experienced by every object on the surface. But it is not. A simple rock balancing statue disproves your beliefs. ruclips.net/video/AfEbsnOXrX0/видео.html actual physics of the COMBINED EFFECT of just two purported motions of globe earth. Now what, do you get it!
Idk... were you actually wrong? It sounds to me like he kinda brought it on himself. There was absolutely no reason to put all of that fear mongering at the end of his original statement, and then doing it _again_ in his follow up. The media and general public will always latch on to that kind of thing and just ignore the rest. It's always been that way, so I don't know why he would have expected any differently. He may not be _solely_ to blame, but he certainly shares a good portion of it. No apology needed, at least IMO.
Love your videos btw. Keep em coming!
"Absence of journalistic standards at the time"? Nothing has really changed.
I don’t trust anyone that wears* that kind of hat. He’s a sailor on a predreadnaught? What a dumb hat. Keppler knew a good hat. Don’t even start me up on Huygens headwear….
6:48
I dont see any error in his thinking here excepting his (understandable) incomprehension of the age of the Earth, the age of Life on Earth, and the extraordinary abundance of comets. IMO, his error seems to be all-too human, he chose to literally sell solid logical reasoning to a gullible, sensational public, just recently literate as (we are still today), without the context of a modern comprehension of Geologic Time.
To be such a famous science commentator , Mr. Sagan misrepresented a lot of science.
“Extraordinary” claims require exactly the same evidence as any other claim.
It killed Mark Twain😊
correlation is causation : )
Hahahaha like the NYT is trustworthy today 😂😂😂
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Sagan was a weak-minded consensus tool. Good riddance.
Our current paradigm is a lie.