After 3 months I had to come back & watch this one again. Spring 2020 marathon planning (L.A.) and I’m considering the Rebel. I’ve been training in the NB Propel & oh my what a great trainer. Because of the Propel the Rebel is on my radar for race day.
Philadelphia marathon in November, Sketchers Hyper Elite. A little heavier than I used to race in. Used to use something like Nike zoom LT when I ran 2:22. But at 41 years old I need extra cushion. Also hoping to get a pair of sketchers road max 4 hypers to train in as soon as they come out.
Glad to hear you would run a marathon with these shoes! I've been training a lot with these lately (tempo, long runs, easy runs, for a total of about 520Km), and they have proven to be very good in all scenarios. They still feel springy, and never feel my legs are beat after a session. I used to wear the Adidas Adios 4 for half marathons, and I felt they were a bit harsh. I will be running an IM with the NB Rebel (probably a new pair though). Thanks for the review!
I've tried these shoes, feels very responsive and cushions. Feedback when impact with surface can be handled perfectly. New balance has done a very extraordinary progress with these shoes. Noted that the shoes is a bit narrow and I upsize about 1.1/2 from my size to get comfort felling.
Seth's review is spot on, this shoe is COMFORTABLE. I had the feeling the shoe was glued to my foot during my run. I can feel the pop while running and it does making me wanna go faster. I have tried the NB fuelcell rebel, Beacon, Hoka Rincon, Carbon X. Rebel is the best fitting, most comfortable one of them. It is on the top of my list for my first marathon. The problem of the Carbon X for me is that the heel cup doesn't stick to my heel, combined with the very stiff carbon plate, it separates from my heel on every stride.
Just bought a pair yesterday, thanks to your recommendation. Your review is spot on. Superb upper, nice pop, very light. Handles slow paces well unlike carbon plate shoes, and fast paces better than pure foam shoes (like Epic Reacts). For Ultra distance I still want to try the Carbon X, but I worry the stiffness would become annoying over 6+ hours.
ADT Marathon down here in Colorado Springs. First marathon attempt. Thinking the Clifton 5 will be the shoe of choice. It's been working well so far for that distance for me.
My experience between the Pegasus 35 Turbo (436miles/704km and Rebel (128miles/207km) thus far: Comfort: Rebel wins - it's more squishy underfoot, maybe a bit too much as you can feel every stone you run over. Turbos gives me toe pain as the toe box is narrow. Beacon is still the best in terms of comfort. Speed: Turbo wins hands down. Rebel is fast but the Turbo gives so much more energy return. It's easier to go faster in the Turbos even with 700kms use. Durability: Probably the same. No signs of any chunking from the outsole on either shoe. My running includes on tarmac and off. Overall win: Turbos. I'll choose these everytime over the Rebel. Just a superior shoe in my honest opinion.
Seth, Will you do a vlog on let's say your top 3 shoe recommendations for each type of training run e.g., long, recovery, tempo, threshold & race? Separate road and trail vlogs perhaps.
I’m running my second marathon this Saturday. I’ve opted for the Brooks Glycerin 16. I don’t think it’s considered a real fast racing shoe, but I’ve gone for comfort
love this for long short fast or slow super comfy upper and very cushioned shoes and no issues with comfort.....i use this shoe on light trails and road love this shoe......got second pair for colour and i have 100 miles on mine still pop on these shoes and no SIGN OF WEAR EVEN IN TRAILS LOVE IN RAIN TOO.. PREFER THIS TO THE BEACON AND ALSO NO HEAT SPOT ON THIS SHOE SO I WOULD SAY USE IT FOR RACING HALF OR FULL AND THE PRICE IS EXCELLENT
Hi Nathalie, I am using the Beacons and I have been looking for a faster race shoe. All the shoes I have tested felt uncomfortable as they are too narrow. Do you feel that the fit of the Rebel is similar to the Beacons?
@@ingolfurbirgisson7060 i actually like both beacon shoes and rebel but find the rebel to be a better fit upper then beaon and have a better ground feel then beacon but the rebel is not for everyone in terms of long distance and beacon might be better long ditance runner but the fit isnt perfect to me rebel has not rubbing or hot spot and sock feel upper and good lock down .i dont have wide feet so both shoes work welll...i would recommend maybe hoka clifton 6 for wider and comfy feel
@@nathaliec7330 Thanks for the reply. Going to see if I can fi þnd them in stores here to try them on. Looking for a faster shoe for 10k races. Thanks also for the tip regarding the Cliftons, wouldn't they be similar in application to the Beacons, that is a lightweight but very padded trainer?
Rock n Roll Marathon San Antonio in December... not for time but for distance... I’m currently testing out the Adidas Ultraboost. I have tested the Pegasus 35 and 36, Turbo, Adidas Pureboost so far and working my way through!
Ben Ludbrook I love mine, now it will not give the energy return you get from a carbon plate but I more real feel.. I also just picked up a older pre version 6 which was fly-knit at Ross for $50
Me neither but Ross and marshals both at times carry decent running shoes. My son picked up a Nike free at Marshals. It’s worth a look. These are Nike streak flyknit which was made Prior to the streak six I think
Seth! I can't wait to get this shoe this week. Just a quick question, what causes over pronation? Is it ankle weakness? In the clip of you from 7:13-7:24 you had some pretty bad pronation on your right like you said previously. Are there any exercises to combat this? Thanks for the great content!
Berlin marathon! Used NB Beacon for Stockholm marathon this spring, but the upper has started tearing after only 6 months of being in my rotation... So I will try out Hoka One One Rincon on a few long runs, if that doesn’t feel right I might have to try the Beacon v2! Keep up the good work!!
I'm running my first marathon in October. It's called : Le petit train du nord (Little train of the north) in Mont Tremblant Québec Canada. Shoes : Hoka rincon or Altra escalante!!! or maybe the FuelCell after this review. A bit expensive in Canada.. 165$.
QD: I'm racing a full marathon in the most anticipated marathon event in Indonesia, Borobudur Marathon, in November and planning to use Rincon or Clifton 6.
Hi SJD, just ordered these shoes with POP. These sportfull babies will get me towards my goals. 3:15??? Just covered Egmond Half Marathon (Netherlands) last Sunday. Windy (OMG!!) :)
Love this shoe. Seth, to respond to your outsole durability question, I’m approaching 200 in my pair and I’m only now seeing some wear on the lateral mid foot areas and just under the toes. Just FYI, I have a fall marathon and these shoes will be on my feet. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for thorough review! First HM and full with Boston Half in October and Houston Marathon in January. Planning on Hoka Rincon, but FC Rebel has me curious. I’m heavier at 185, hoping to get to 175 for Houston, and not sure Rebel will be enough cushion for full though?
Planning to run the Chicago Half Marathon in late September on Rebels. Curious to hear from you how they compare with the Razor 3, which I used on my last Half but missed a bit of cushion after the 10th mile... 2019 is being an outstanding year for running shoe lovers... SB,WH&LEO!
QD: nope, just XC. Might try my first actual HM race or race the 10k at St. Jude Memphis after the season. Picked up the Adidas Parley Adizero Prime for $30 at Marshalls recently, hit a 10k PR with them in training.
Amsterdam Marathon! Hope see you around there Seth! Debating between Altra Duo or Hoka CarbonX. And probably ı will have New Balance Fuel Cell alternative after this vlog😉
I’m running Amsterdam in October. Most likely will run it in Wave Rider 22s, I have a low mileage pair set aside. But I was thinking of maybe getting some NB 1080s soon, so if those work for me then I might switch to those.
Indianapolis monumental marathon in November! No clue what shoe ill wear, dont really have racing shoes. Ill probs just stick with my training shoes, altra escalante
Thanks for another great review Seth. I'm currently using Pegasus 36 as my daily trainer but find that the thin tongue isn't comfortable at all. Looking for another pair as part of rotation but ideally lighter and durable shoe. What would you recommend; Rebel, Beacon 2 or Pegasus Turbo 2?
I just returned the Rebel. Right below the laces, it was putting pressure on my metatarsal. Thinking about giving a wide pair a try to see if that alleviates my issue. Was really surprised as I've not had fitment issues with New Balance running shoes before. Was pretty bummed as that FuelCell foam feels amazing on the foot.
@@SethJamesDeMoor it's a weird one. I have a wide foot, but it's not wide enough that I've ever needed wide running shoes. First pair I got was my TTS and I realized it was too short and snug so I hoped going a half size up would fix it. Got a thumbs with in front of my toes with that, but still a little pressure. I'm going to call up a running store this week in hopes they'll have a wide to try out as I really want this shoe to work for me as it felt like it was helping with my landing as an under pronator.
@@SethJamesDeMoor I usually wear a UK 7.5 in my Beacons and have the Rebel's in the same size. However the Rebel's seem a bit smaller. Not sure if it's because they're more of a racing shoe?
I love this shoe. The TPU plate in forefoot is poppy. Interested to try rebel cell v2, but they took out TPU plate and not sure it's gonna feel as poppy. I've been cruisin in v1
I'm running the Chicago Marathon as long as I get myself healthy enough to run a marathon (I'm kind of a mess, but I'm working on it). I'll likely be running in the Saucony Kinvara 9.
Seth, thank you for excelent review, i fully agree with you impressions. Question, for you it's sizing equl size of turbo and next %? In my case, I stick with + half size for rebel
I ran a marathon in april in the New Balance 1500v3, just eneugh cushion and lightweight as well as snappy. Second marathon in this shoe, Also ran 2 in the 1500v2. I use these shoes only for speedwork and intervals approaching race day. Triathletes also use it a lot. Next marathon I'll probably try the Rincon.
I tried on the Rebel a few weeks ago, but went with the Beacon 2 instead. The Rebel felt much more narrow and seemed to hug my foot unlike any other shoe I've used in recent memory. Just didn't feel right for me. Plus, I don't think I'm fast enough yet to enjoy the same Pop response you were getting from it. I'm running the Snohomish River Run Marathon in October and the Klickitat Trail Marathon in November.
I agree. I bought the rebel at my normal size and took them out for a few trial runs. The shoe runs short and narrow in the toe box. My toes felt squashed. A lot of the reviewers on the new balance web site also had that problem. Going up a extra size or width because of the sock type bootie would have affected the lockdown performence of the shoe. I totally agree, the beauty in the shoe is in the softness and responsiveness of the midsole. I also wonder if the dense upper is going to provide enough protection against the cold in the winter months. Can't wear these shoes with thicker socks. I too returned these shoes for the beacon. Maybe not as fast, but definitely more versatile.
Running Chicago!!! My second ever marathon!! I am attempting my inner Seth and trying to vlog my journey. I have know idea what shoe I am going to run in. The shoes I own are, Hoka Clifton 1's, Newton Fate 5's, Altra Torin 3.5, Saucony Everrun Iso 4. I ran my first on in Brooks Ghost 10's.
Great review on an amazing shoe! I will have my marathon debute in Berlin at the end of september. I still not sure what my race shoe will be but I think the New Balance 1080 v9 🏃🏻♂️
Rik, I will have my marathon debut in September in the New Forest marathon, Hampshire, UK and will be in my NB 1080v9 unless the NB Fuelcell Propel I got today provide a better ride!!
ADE HARDCASTLE , nice work! My girlfriend ran the new Forest marathon last year. Really nice area to run and a lot of friendly people and good organisation. A lot of gravel roads (keep this in mind when choosing shoes 🤓). I think the 1080 v9 will do great. Enjoy & good luck!! 🏃🏻♂️
I picked up the Beacon 2 a couple weeks ago. Have maybe 40 miles on them. It took some break in before the uppers got flexible enough to feel comfortable. The only other thing is the insert. Probably Spenco’s since I’ve used those before and are reasonably priced.
Hi Seth! New subscriber here, I really like your content. I started watching your review videos to try to figure out what shoes to get to practice for my 2nd 10k ever after my Brooks Glycerins were done. From your videos I found the Beacons v1 for a good price and I am pretty happy with them (slight achilles rubbing issue). I also recently tried on the Razor 3 shoe and it felt fantastic but it is very expensive here, still thinking it over if I should get them to run sprints in and for the 10K which is in 3 weeks or just run in the Beacons. Do you or maybe someone else here have an opinion if the cushioning on the Razors are enough for heavier guys (I am 90 kg but in decent shape)? From your review videos I also started watching your other vlogs and tips on running etc and it is all very informative!
Thank you so much for being here. I do think the Razor 3!has enough cushion, but I’m not sure if the midsole durability will go past 250 miles. I think the build quality needs to be improved. Thanks again for being here
I'm close to your weight. I can't run in the razor 3 at all without feeling super beat up, especially speed work. Maybe it's good for somone who's lighter? I can run in the beacon all day long. I'm actually planning on retiring the razor 3 from my rotation because I'm super afraid I'm going to injure myself in it. I bought it for a 10k road race day shoe, just not gonna happen, I'll go with another shoe on race day.
@@nickolasscott5513 Thank you for the response, very good to know! Might try to get the Brooks launch for race day, they have a discount day coming up. The Beacons feel nice but my legs and the Beacon don't feel like one unit. I have only ran in them for 20km so this might change :). Also I am a bit tired in my sole after running in them, I tjink this is because they are so flexible so I am flexing my foot more which I guess I am not used to :)
@@SethJamesDeMoor Thank you for the response! I think I will wait with the Razor 3 and see if it will be on discount. I also wanted to check if you have a favourite shoe regarding the grip, as I see there is often snow where you live?
I'm the same as you, overpronate a bit more on one side, and my first pair in D width felt a little too keen to overpronate. I ended up exchanging for 2E and the slight extra width actually feel noticeably stable than the D width. Still rolls and transitions just as well as D. The only downside is the laces end up a little long because I have to tie things down a little tighter.
QOD - Marine Corps Marathon. Might use the 4%, but the possibility of using the Rebel is there. Love the NB FC Rebel for speed runs. I choose them over the PegTurbos.
QD: The Swiss City Marathon in Lucerne at the end of October. I was Tempted for Amsterdam when you announced it! but I'm enjoying to run with elevation finally after living for 7 years in The Netherlands. Be prepared for how ridiculously flat NL is (and humid)!
I'm running the Yorkshire Marathon in October. Will be my first Marathon. Not really sure what shoes to wear for this. Possibly the New Balance Beacon V1? Got the Great North Run Half Marathon on September the 8th which I have a few choices for. Its between the New Balance Beacon V1, New Balance Fuelcell Rebel and Adidas Adizero Boston Boost 6 🤔
After 3 months I had to come back & watch this one again. Spring 2020 marathon planning (L.A.) and I’m considering the Rebel. I’ve been training in the NB Propel & oh my what a great trainer. Because of the Propel the Rebel is on my radar for race day.
This dude is so informative, and for that he gets a new follower.
Philadelphia marathon in November, Sketchers Hyper Elite. A little heavier than I used to race in. Used to use something like Nike zoom LT when I ran 2:22. But at 41 years old I need extra cushion. Also hoping to get a pair of sketchers road max 4 hypers to train in as soon as they come out.
Glad to hear you would run a marathon with these shoes! I've been training a lot with these lately (tempo, long runs, easy runs, for a total of about 520Km), and they have proven to be very good in all scenarios. They still feel springy, and never feel my legs are beat after a session. I used to wear the Adidas Adios 4 for half marathons, and I felt they were a bit harsh. I will be running an IM with the NB Rebel (probably a new pair though). Thanks for the review!
Subscribed today. You are wonderful at what you do bro, keep up the good work.
I appreciate you being here Kenny
Long Beach marathon!! , Nike Pegasus turbo , plus I just purchased these turbos and they are amazing!! No issues I have so far 40 miles in them
I've tried these shoes, feels very responsive and cushions. Feedback when impact with surface can be handled perfectly.
New balance has done a very extraordinary progress with these shoes. Noted that the shoes is a bit narrow and I upsize about 1.1/2 from my size to get comfort felling.
Seth's review is spot on, this shoe is COMFORTABLE. I had the feeling the shoe was glued to my foot during my run. I can feel the pop while running and it does making me wanna go faster. I have tried the NB fuelcell rebel, Beacon, Hoka Rincon, Carbon X. Rebel is the best fitting, most comfortable one of them. It is on the top of my list for my first marathon. The problem of the Carbon X for me is that the heel cup doesn't stick to my heel, combined with the very stiff carbon plate, it separates from my heel on every stride.
Just bought a pair yesterday, thanks to your recommendation.
Your review is spot on. Superb upper, nice pop, very light.
Handles slow paces well unlike carbon plate shoes, and fast paces better than pure foam shoes (like Epic Reacts).
For Ultra distance I still want to try the Carbon X, but I worry the stiffness would become annoying over 6+ hours.
Not sure you'll see a lot of Rebel at the Amsterdam Marathon, but I enjoy running with this shoes !
October in Frankfurt rocking the Adios 4s. All about that ground feel!
Not gonna lie, SJD is faster than Lightning McQueen
My first pair of NB I’m normally a Hoka or Altra guy but these are great!
you're the greatest. im stoked for your race this fall.
ADT Marathon down here in Colorado Springs. First marathon attempt. Thinking the Clifton 5 will be the shoe of choice. It's been working well so far for that distance for me.
Great review. Great shots. Thanks.
Running my first ever marathon in the fall. I’ll be running the Marine Corps Marathon in Washington DC, and will be rocking the NB Fuel Cell Rebels
My experience between the Pegasus 35 Turbo (436miles/704km and Rebel (128miles/207km) thus far:
Comfort: Rebel wins - it's more squishy underfoot, maybe a bit too much as you can feel every stone you run over. Turbos gives me toe pain as the toe box is narrow. Beacon is still the best in terms of comfort.
Speed: Turbo wins hands down. Rebel is fast but the Turbo gives so much more energy return. It's easier to go faster in the Turbos even with 700kms use.
Durability: Probably the same. No signs of any chunking from the outsole on either shoe. My running includes on tarmac and off.
Overall win: Turbos. I'll choose these everytime over the Rebel. Just a superior shoe in my honest opinion.
Seth, Will you do a vlog on let's say your top 3 shoe recommendations for each type of training run e.g., long, recovery, tempo, threshold & race? Separate road and trail vlogs perhaps.
Chicago Marathon. Debating between Hoka rincon & Altra Torin. Just got the FC rebel, so more to consider.
I also have Altra Torins, I also have Hoka cliftons, Im leaning towards Cliftons
This video makes me so happy 😊
I’m running my second marathon this Saturday. I’ve opted for the Brooks Glycerin 16. I don’t think it’s considered a real fast racing shoe, but I’ve gone for comfort
love this for long short fast or slow super comfy upper and very cushioned shoes and no issues with comfort.....i use this shoe on light trails and road love this shoe......got second pair for colour and i have 100 miles on mine still pop on these shoes and no SIGN OF WEAR EVEN IN TRAILS LOVE IN RAIN TOO.. PREFER THIS TO THE BEACON AND ALSO NO HEAT SPOT ON THIS SHOE SO I WOULD SAY USE IT FOR RACING HALF OR FULL AND THE PRICE IS EXCELLENT
Hi Nathalie, I am using the Beacons and I have been looking for a faster race shoe. All the shoes I have tested felt uncomfortable as they are too narrow. Do you feel that the fit of the Rebel is similar to the Beacons?
@@ingolfurbirgisson7060 i actually like both beacon shoes and rebel but find the rebel to be a better fit upper then beaon and have a better ground feel then beacon but the rebel is not for everyone in terms of long distance and beacon might be better long ditance runner but the fit isnt perfect to me rebel has not rubbing or hot spot and sock feel upper and good lock down .i dont have wide feet so both shoes work welll...i would recommend maybe hoka clifton 6 for wider and comfy feel
@@nathaliec7330 Thanks for the reply. Going to see if I can fi þnd them in stores here to try them on. Looking for a faster shoe for 10k races.
Thanks also for the tip regarding the Cliftons, wouldn't they be similar in application to the Beacons, that is a lightweight but very padded trainer?
No problem. The Clifton 5 and beacon 2 is among the fav for long distance right now
Fort Worth marathon...either Clifton 6 or Rincon
I love your channel. i’m hoping to run a marathon sometime soon
Rock n Roll Marathon San Antonio in December... not for time but for distance... I’m currently testing out the Adidas Ultraboost.
I have tested the Pegasus 35 and 36, Turbo, Adidas Pureboost so far and working my way through!
Same here, good luck! I am shooting for 4hr finish. Testing out Rebel and Rincon now.
Chang Liu I should see you at the finish line as I am aiming for 4 hours as well!
Can u please try out a pair of Nike zoom streak 7 and tell us what u think?
Ben Ludbrook I love mine, now it will not give the energy return you get from a carbon plate but I more real feel.. I also just picked up a older pre version 6 which was fly-knit at Ross for $50
Me neither but Ross and marshals both at times carry decent running shoes. My son picked up a Nike free at Marshals. It’s worth a look. These are Nike streak flyknit which was made Prior to the streak six I think
Seth! I can't wait to get this shoe this week. Just a quick question, what causes over pronation? Is it ankle weakness? In the clip of you from 7:13-7:24 you had some pretty bad pronation on your right like you said previously. Are there any exercises to combat this? Thanks for the great content!
Doing my second ever full this year. Doing the Indy Monumental Marathon. Might have to check these out.
Love this shoe very comfortable and makes me want to go fast
Berlin marathon! Used NB Beacon for Stockholm marathon this spring, but the upper has started tearing after only 6 months of being in my rotation... So I will try out Hoka One One Rincon on a few long runs, if that doesn’t feel right I might have to try the Beacon v2! Keep up the good work!!
Just rewatched this vid. On my way to the running store to try on the Rebel. Thinking about a shoe I can race in for my spring marathon.
Thanks sir Seth for giving us a good to better idea about NB fuelcell rebel!!!
I'm running my first marathon in October. It's called : Le petit train du nord (Little train of the north) in Mont Tremblant Québec Canada. Shoes : Hoka rincon or Altra escalante!!! or maybe the FuelCell after this review. A bit expensive in Canada.. 165$.
QD: I'm racing a full marathon in the most anticipated marathon event in Indonesia, Borobudur Marathon, in November and planning to use Rincon or Clifton 6.
Go Rincon!
Great review! How are these shoes for wide footed runners do you think? I know it has a wide mid foot, but what do you think?
Yes I am. Cape cod marathon which will be my first full! Watching this to help decide I'm not sure which shoe to wear.
OLD video.. new comment - what scored HIGHER than this shoe!? I love the rebel. Can’t wait for the 2.0?review!
Richmond Marathon and I’ll be racing in the Peg 35 turbo
QD: I’ll be doing the Richmond VA Marathon in Nov. The shoe of choice will be the Nike Zoom Fly.
BJ Schreib zoom fly 3 or the original
Columbus marathon in October. Zante pursuits! Ran my half in them and can’t wait to see how they’ll do with the full
Great vid thanks. Been planning to get this shoe.
Chicago marathon! Debating: hoka one one carbon x or next %! Which one I have to get Seth??
Me too!! Chicago!
@@RunwithBrad see u there then!!
Hi SJD, just ordered these shoes with POP. These sportfull babies will get me towards my goals. 3:15???
Just covered Egmond Half Marathon (Netherlands) last Sunday. Windy (OMG!!)
:)
CIM in December. Looks like it’ll either be the Rincon or the Clifton 6. TBD. Keep on trucking Seth. 🏎
Hey Seth. Seen reviews saying these run small. What do you think?
AirForce Marathon 2019 Dayton Ohio. I trained in the Brooks Levitate 2 and the Sketchers Ride 7 and I am racing in the Nike Zoom Fly 3.
Planning on running the robin hood half marathon in Nottingham this September... first half marathon, think im going for the hoka rincons
I like it WILLIAM, sounds like a nice race.
Love this shoe. Seth, to respond to your outsole durability question, I’m approaching 200 in my pair and I’m only now seeing some wear on the lateral mid foot areas and just under the toes. Just FYI, I have a fall marathon and these shoes will be on my feet. Keep up the good work!
Any update? How is the durability of the cushion, is it losing energy?
Could you review the zante pursuit
Thanks for thorough review! First HM and full with Boston Half in October and Houston Marathon in January. Planning on Hoka Rincon, but FC Rebel has me curious. I’m heavier at 185, hoping to get to 175 for Houston, and not sure Rebel will be enough cushion for full though?
Do you recommend this shoe for distances like the 2 mile, 5k and 10k?
Valencia Marathon, 1 December. Nike Next %. Marathon #11, PB attempt at age 52.
Long Beach October 13. Either going with the Carbon X or maybe Newton Distance Elite.
Brooklyn in October. I was hoping the Rincon would be the shoe but I'm finding its not working as well as I would like on my long runs.
hey I may run that too im on the fence lol
I'm running the half marathon!
Planning to run the Chicago Half Marathon in late September on Rebels. Curious to hear from you how they compare with the Razor 3, which I used on my last Half but missed a bit of cushion after the 10th mile... 2019 is being an outstanding year for running shoe lovers... SB,WH&LEO!
QD: nope, just XC. Might try my first actual HM race or race the 10k at St. Jude Memphis after the season. Picked up the Adidas Parley Adizero Prime for $30 at Marshalls recently, hit a 10k PR with them in training.
Amsterdam Marathon! Hope see you around there Seth! Debating between Altra Duo or Hoka CarbonX. And probably ı will have New Balance Fuel Cell alternative after this vlog😉
You’ve definitely piqued my interest. Everything you said about the Rebel, I say about the Rincon. But who knows? Maybe the New Balance is better?
I think the difference is at pace, that the plate in the Rebel gives you pop, whereas the Rincon stays soft.
I'm running the Kuala Lumpur Marathon this September with my newly bought Rincon. It'll be my first so wish me luck 😨
Me too and its my 1st full marathon. Good luck and have fun 👍👍
@@danny3335 lets enjoy the experience and good luck to both of us!
I agree that the upper is super comfy. However, the foam was just not responsive and too firm for a full Marathon - for me at least.
I’m running Amsterdam in October. Most likely will run it in Wave Rider 22s, I have a low mileage pair set aside. But I was thinking of maybe getting some NB 1080s soon, so if those work for me then I might switch to those.
Running the last chance BQ.2 marathon in Geneva Illinois this September with the Nike turbos
Sweet!!
Hartford. Today is marathon shoe shopping day. Probably the Brooks Ghost 12 but I'm tying on some lighter options like carbon x or Clifton 6.
Sir if you want better lock down and more rigidity around the collar, you may want to consider the NB fuelcell propel. Super duper great shoe!!!
i am in dilemma to buy between these rebel or propel. what is difference between these two?
Indianapolis monumental marathon in November! No clue what shoe ill wear, dont really have racing shoes. Ill probs just stick with my training shoes, altra escalante
Chicago Marathon. I'm running in the Nike Zoom Elite 9.
Skechers Razor 3 or NB fuelcell rebel? For Tempo runs and long run perspective
I use both happily.
Similar shoes. Would come down to fit mostly I think, the NB is slight wider and better upper. Razor 3 is possibly more bouncy, Rebel more propulsive.
Thanks for another great review Seth. I'm currently using Pegasus 36 as my daily trainer but find that the thin tongue isn't comfortable at all. Looking for another pair as part of rotation but ideally lighter and durable shoe. What would you recommend; Rebel, Beacon 2 or Pegasus Turbo 2?
I just returned the Rebel. Right below the laces, it was putting pressure on my metatarsal. Thinking about giving a wide pair a try to see if that alleviates my issue. Was really surprised as I've not had fitment issues with New Balance running shoes before. Was pretty bummed as that FuelCell foam feels amazing on the foot.
vaxick good to know thanks for sharing!
@@SethJamesDeMoor it's a weird one. I have a wide foot, but it's not wide enough that I've ever needed wide running shoes. First pair I got was my TTS and I realized it was too short and snug so I hoped going a half size up would fix it. Got a thumbs with in front of my toes with that, but still a little pressure. I'm going to call up a running store this week in hopes they'll have a wide to try out as I really want this shoe to work for me as it felt like it was helping with my landing as an under pronator.
Hi Seth,
How have you found the sizing with the Rebel's? How much space do you usually have at the end of your shoes?
True to size for me good question
@@SethJamesDeMoor I usually wear a UK 7.5 in my Beacons and have the Rebel's in the same size. However the Rebel's seem a bit smaller. Not sure if it's because they're more of a racing shoe?
Great review
I love this shoe. The TPU plate in forefoot is poppy. Interested to try rebel cell v2, but they took out TPU plate and not sure it's gonna feel as poppy. I've been cruisin in v1
Love the slides!!!(1:31)
I'm running the Chicago Marathon as long as I get myself healthy enough to run a marathon (I'm kind of a mess, but I'm working on it). I'll likely be running in the Saucony Kinvara 9.
Me too, I'm leaning towards Cliftons
Running Chicago this year, Probably going to run in the Saucony Kinvara 10's.
Are these good for track? Like an all around shoe? Or are these strictly for running
Seth, thank you for excelent review, i fully agree with you impressions. Question, for you it's sizing equl size of turbo and next %? In my case, I stick with + half size for rebel
Hey Seth, have you tried the New Balance Fuel Cell Propel or Echo??
I ran a marathon in april in the New Balance 1500v3, just eneugh cushion and lightweight as well as snappy. Second marathon in this shoe, Also ran 2 in the 1500v2. I use these shoes only for speedwork and intervals approaching race day. Triathletes also use it a lot. Next marathon I'll probably try the Rincon.
I tried on the Rebel a few weeks ago, but went with the Beacon 2 instead. The Rebel felt much more narrow and seemed to hug my foot unlike any other shoe I've used in recent memory. Just didn't feel right for me. Plus, I don't think I'm fast enough yet to enjoy the same Pop response you were getting from it. I'm running the Snohomish River Run Marathon in October and the Klickitat Trail Marathon in November.
I agree. I bought the rebel at my normal size and took them out for a few trial runs. The shoe runs short and narrow in the toe box. My toes felt squashed. A lot of the reviewers on the new balance web site also had that problem. Going up a extra size or width because of the sock type bootie would have affected the lockdown performence of the shoe. I totally agree, the beauty in the shoe is in the softness and responsiveness of the midsole. I also wonder if the dense upper is going to provide enough protection against the cold in the winter months. Can't wear these shoes with thicker socks. I too returned these shoes for the beacon. Maybe not as fast, but definitely more versatile.
I was planning on going Rincon in my november marathon... the next % is just overkill for me imho
Running Chicago!!! My second ever marathon!! I am attempting my inner Seth and trying to vlog my journey. I have know idea what shoe I am going to run in. The shoes I own are, Hoka Clifton 1's, Newton Fate 5's, Altra Torin 3.5, Saucony Everrun Iso 4. I ran my first on in Brooks Ghost 10's.
Great review on an amazing shoe!
I will have my marathon debute in Berlin at the end of september. I still not sure what my race shoe will be but I think the New Balance 1080 v9 🏃🏻♂️
Rik, I will have my marathon debut in September in the New Forest marathon, Hampshire, UK and will be in my NB 1080v9 unless the NB Fuelcell Propel I got today provide a better ride!!
ADE HARDCASTLE , nice work! My girlfriend ran the new Forest marathon last year. Really nice area to run and a lot of friendly people and good organisation. A lot of gravel roads (keep this in mind when choosing shoes 🤓).
I think the 1080 v9 will do great. Enjoy & good luck!! 🏃🏻♂️
I picked up the Beacon 2 a couple weeks ago. Have maybe 40 miles on them. It took some break in before the uppers got flexible enough to feel comfortable. The only other thing is the insert. Probably Spenco’s since I’ve used those before and are reasonably priced.
Hi Seth! New subscriber here, I really like your content. I started watching your review videos to try to figure out what shoes to get to practice for my 2nd 10k ever after my Brooks Glycerins were done. From your videos I found the Beacons v1 for a good price and I am pretty happy with them (slight achilles rubbing issue). I also recently tried on the Razor 3 shoe and it felt fantastic but it is very expensive here, still thinking it over if I should get them to run sprints in and for the 10K which is in 3 weeks or just run in the Beacons. Do you or maybe someone else here have an opinion if the cushioning on the Razors are enough for heavier guys (I am 90 kg but in decent shape)? From your review videos I also started watching your other vlogs and tips on running etc and it is all very informative!
Thank you so much for being here. I do think the Razor 3!has enough cushion, but I’m not sure if the midsole durability will go past 250 miles. I think the build quality needs to be improved. Thanks again for being here
I'm close to your weight. I can't run in the razor 3 at all without feeling super beat up, especially speed work. Maybe it's good for somone who's lighter? I can run in the beacon all day long. I'm actually planning on retiring the razor 3 from my rotation because I'm super afraid I'm going to injure myself in it. I bought it for a 10k road race day shoe, just not gonna happen, I'll go with another shoe on race day.
@@nickolasscott5513 Thank you for the response, very good to know! Might try to get the Brooks launch for race day, they have a discount day coming up. The Beacons feel nice but my legs and the Beacon don't feel like one unit. I have only ran in them for 20km so this might change :). Also I am a bit tired in my sole after running in them, I tjink this is because they are so flexible so I am flexing my foot more which I guess I am not used to :)
@@SethJamesDeMoor Thank you for the response! I think I will wait with the Razor 3 and see if it will be on discount. I also wanted to check if you have a favourite shoe regarding the grip, as I see there is often snow where you live?
Well I tried the Brooks Launch 6 and my foot doesn't like them. I might run in the Beacons for the 10 K :)
Doing AMS with you and I will be in the Altra Torin 4
Auckland marathon, thinking bout the zoom fly 3's
I'm the same as you, overpronate a bit more on one side, and my first pair in D width felt a little too keen to overpronate. I ended up exchanging for 2E and the slight extra width actually feel noticeably stable than the D width. Still rolls and transitions just as well as D. The only downside is the laces end up a little long because I have to tie things down a little tighter.
QOD - Marine Corps Marathon. Might use the 4%, but the possibility of using the Rebel is there. Love the NB FC Rebel for speed runs. I choose them over the PegTurbos.
I have these shoes , the carbon x and Clifton 6 to pick from for my marathon in September don't know what shoe to pick yet.
QoD. Sydney marathon in September, not sure to go with beacon 2s or rincons 🤔
Rincon! more comfortable, lighter, and faster. I've used both.
Why is this shoe not available in new balance store anymore
I have a race coming up soon 😎 full marathon and my shoes will be Hoka Carbon X
think this could be a more cushioned 5k/10k racer?
Yes!! Absolutely
QD: The Swiss City Marathon in Lucerne at the end of October. I was Tempted for Amsterdam when you announced it! but I'm enjoying to run with elevation finally after living for 7 years in The Netherlands. Be prepared for how ridiculously flat NL is (and humid)!
Best running half marathon shoes for supinators / underpronation?
I'll suggest adizero adios
I'm running the Yorkshire Marathon in October. Will be my first Marathon. Not really sure what shoes to wear for this. Possibly the New Balance Beacon V1? Got the Great North Run Half Marathon on September the 8th which I have a few choices for. Its between the New Balance Beacon V1, New Balance Fuelcell Rebel and Adidas Adizero Boston Boost 6 🤔
I use like You US 7,5, is New Balance FuelCell Rebel true to their size ? Thank You for Your great vlog !
No they are not true to size you may want to buy a size bigger
Running the Marine Corp marathon in the Brooks Ghost 12