Fern has a plan... And Lindsay already knows what it is. (Frieren Ep 24 REACTION!)

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  • Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024

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  • @TheLorax787
    @TheLorax787 7 месяцев назад +150

    Theory I heard as to why Wirbel and co beat their clones. Übel and Land established the clones can’t talk. They can’t communicate and work together so each one acts independently. That’s why clone Erhe went off on her own which allowed Wirbel to kill her as clone Sharf wasn’t there to defend her with his physical shield which would have held up against such an attack.

  • @patbracken
    @patbracken 7 месяцев назад +170

    Sense: I will neither interfere nor assist.
    Dark Sense: *stabs a test-taker*

    • @humourlessjester3584
      @humourlessjester3584 7 месяцев назад +6

      Given how the other first class mage knew the kind of monster inside the labyrinth I wonder if Sense knew that her being there is enough to influence the test.

    • @Bayard1503
      @Bayard1503 7 месяцев назад +19

      @@humourlessjester3584 Obviously she knew. But if you want to be a first-class mage shouldn't you be able to face another one? And even if she's stronger they have the option to work together which is the exact point of the test.

    • @grainnmertens
      @grainnmertens 7 месяцев назад +8

      ​​@@Bayard1503and defeating sense isnt the goal anyway, if they want to and can, they could just speedrun until the last chamber and focus their strength on fighting the last boss.
      It is up to the test takers to be wise and decide what to do based on their abilities and work together eventually.
      If they great at evading attacks and runaway, just do that, they aint warriors anyway lol.
      Basically, arrogance and bravado is first class mage greatest enemy in my opinion, just like the first mage in green outfit that refuse to work together.
      Idk what his fate though and i think i missed it in the manga too, not surprised if he died.

    • @Bayard1503
      @Bayard1503 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@grainnmertens He might be that stain on the floor last episode

    • @soumyajitmandal6028
      @soumyajitmandal6028 7 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@Bayard1503 wasn't he shown in this episode? After they showed a glimpse of ubel, land exploring and lawine, kanne sneaking around, they showed the arrogant guy sitting alone in a room with his face planted on his knees.

  • @TheDefectiveAI
    @TheDefectiveAI 7 месяцев назад +62

    The whole explanation scene with hypnosis girl is largely to highlight their groups thought process, while also highlighting how dangerous Sense is. There are two ways to get around a magical defense, overwhelming force, and slipping through the cracks. Whelp Sense can slip through the cracks with overwhelming force.

    • @kailynchen
      @kailynchen 7 месяцев назад +5

      The whole explanation scene is to get Kurosawa Tomoyo to talk enough to justify her pay /s

    • @UFOinDisguise
      @UFOinDisguise 7 месяцев назад

      she'll have her time in the manga@@kailynchen

  • @JSuperstar20
    @JSuperstar20 7 месяцев назад +70

    If you look at the mural again, the figure next to the king is an elf with angelic wings, which is evocative of the Goddess. This is interesting because it links the Unified Dynasty to the Goddess, and also to Ewig who supposedly knew spells for resurrection and immortality.
    What even is the Unified Dynasty? On speculation alone we might think it's a great kingdom that encompassed the entire continent, likely before the era of the demon king, or during the so-called "mythical era" that Kraft talked about.

    • @jchavs0212
      @jchavs0212 7 месяцев назад +11

      Probably Kraft's prime era huh.
      If this was before the demon king era then what calamity happened for it to not exist anymore.

    • @Bayard1503
      @Bayard1503 7 месяцев назад +5

      @@jchavs0212 Kingdoms break apart all the time.

  • @Ray-rz8hb
    @Ray-rz8hb 7 месяцев назад +57

    16:19 I am Japanese and even the way she talks Japanese is for elderly. There are some loli characters in anime talk in this way. Like Shinobu from monogatari series and Frederica from 86. It’s called “Noja-Loli”

    • @reruarikushiteru
      @reruarikushiteru 7 месяцев назад +11

      Yeah, that is definitely getting lost in translation
      I heard her talk and was like "wait, how old is she supposed to be?" xD

    • @juanthegreat3954
      @juanthegreat3954 7 месяцев назад +13

      That is why her accent kinda reminds me of Ryuzu from Re Zero

    • @kirimanagi1013
      @kirimanagi1013 7 месяцев назад +7

      Lolibaba

    • @bubbletea7029
      @bubbletea7029 7 месяцев назад +5

      Reminds me of Power from Chainsaw Man

    • @Cathart1c
      @Cathart1c 6 месяцев назад +1

      Well Frederica is princess after all, so she talks like royalty 😁

  • @Ray-rz8hb
    @Ray-rz8hb 7 месяцев назад +43

    17:50 they created whole fighting scenes with Wirbel and this scene wasn’t in the manga. But since the beginning of the show, they mostly adapt 2 manga chapters per episode so they just followed the way manga is written.

    • @_Lumiere_
      @_Lumiere_ 7 месяцев назад +1

      It was a really good scene imo

  • @Ozai75
    @Ozai75 7 месяцев назад +14

    Fern's straight up "MY FRIEREN. MINE." *HUUUUUUUGS*

  • @megumi1802
    @megumi1802 7 месяцев назад +29

    16:24 You said about Edel "She talks like 80-years-old woman", she actually talks like that in Japanese. This is interesting to me, you sensed it, even though your native language isn't Japanese. (Japanese has the way of speaking characteristic of elderly people, and for some reason she uses those).

    • @Phantom-un2ox
      @Phantom-un2ox 7 месяцев назад +4

      No wonder her voice was so cute and "wisdomy"

  • @billybob-uz6wz
    @billybob-uz6wz 7 месяцев назад +17

    For the 3x3 team battle, I think the difference is that real people can verbally communicate with each other, but the clones cannot communicate other than general battle/situational IQ, so teamwork will be worse for clones.

    • @shadederek17
      @shadederek17 7 месяцев назад +3

      So that‘s why Sense set the target of test like that. Not prohibiting test takers to form a party as they wish.

    • @MohamedAshraf-fv8jk
      @MohamedAshraf-fv8jk 7 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@shadederek17
      yes .. this is the only way team work and team strategy (not everyone fight their own clone)

  • @pyrious6836
    @pyrious6836 7 месяцев назад +11

    The clones have the memories but dont have a personality or mind. It's the reason why despite being a pacifist the clone of Sense still attacks them. So the Frieren clone wouldnt care about grimoires or hesitate out of care for Fern.

  • @Green-3c34y65vrbu
    @Green-3c34y65vrbu 7 месяцев назад +36

    I was surprised when they mentioned Ewig again. perhaps he's more significant to the story than I thought he was gonna be???

    • @teguhlg
      @teguhlg 7 месяцев назад +9

      Ewig most likely on the same level of Flamme, in their power and/or their achievement.

    • @1idd0kun
      @1idd0kun 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@teguhlg
      He's from an earlier era than Flamme's time though. Ewig is always linked to the mythical era. The only other character that is also linked to the mythical era is Serie.

    • @aymen1773
      @aymen1773 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@1idd0kun and kraft is he linked to it or not

  • @Despotic_Waffle
    @Despotic_Waffle 7 месяцев назад +9

    Based on what I gather, the 'Unified Dynasty Era' they keep referring to in the show refers to the greco-roman era of the world when Flamme was around. So it's possible Frieren DID know that ancient King, or was close to the tine period when he was alive at the very least.

  • @Scharrer23
    @Scharrer23 7 месяцев назад +31

    beside the possibility that clone frieren might hesitates against fern, it was established earlyer in the season that fern has a faster reaction time than frieren. that could be another angle to fight the clone.

    • @Bayard1503
      @Bayard1503 7 месяцев назад +9

      Didn't they just establish they have no humanity in them?? why would it hesitate?

    • @soumyajitmandal6028
      @soumyajitmandal6028 7 месяцев назад +2

      The clones definitely won't hesitate, pacifist sense just stabbed edel after all. Normally fern doesn't stand a chance against frieren despite having faster spellcasting ability because she lacks the raw power to actually damage frieren or defend against her (also significantly less experience and mana). But if powerful mages can defend her, she can overwhelm the clone with rapid fire offensive magic.

    • @1idd0kun
      @1idd0kun 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@soumyajitmandal6028
      You're missing something. Edel just explained there are two methods to overcome a strong defense. You can overwhelm it with greater power or you can slip through it with technique.
      Besides, the title for next episode suggests Frieren has a vulnerability. If so, Fern's probably the only one who knows about it and can exploit it.

    • @soumyajitmandal6028
      @soumyajitmandal6028 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@1idd0kun it's difficult to use sophisticated techniques when you're getting blasted by spells that can't instantly kill you. Frieren has so much more raw power compared to fern that she can tank her attacks despite being slower, while one good hit can end fern. We already saw how techniques fall apart in front of raw power when Denken's powerful spells couldn't penetrate frieren's basic defensive magic. Fern can't take on frieren in a 1v1, she needs support.

    • @1idd0kun
      @1idd0kun 7 месяцев назад

      @@soumyajitmandal6028
      No one said she doesn't need support. But I don't think you have an idea of what she's gonna do. Why don't you just wait and see?
      And don't compare Fern to Denken. Fern can do things Denken can't even dream of. You'll see.

  • @erwindavid2859
    @erwindavid2859 7 месяцев назад +9

    1 backlash of using a mimic, you will have a round 2 but now a Frieren clone with ringlets hair. You dont want to mess with those ringlets hair. 😂

  • @cody5089
    @cody5089 7 месяцев назад +10

    Edel's conversation about Sense's replica is more of a setup for something that happens later on this arc.

  • @alexandersveryown4760
    @alexandersveryown4760 7 месяцев назад +8

    I like Frierens reacting towards Fern saying she might know a way to kill her, lmao.
    It's like she's interested and happy upon hearing that😂

    • @1idd0kun
      @1idd0kun 7 месяцев назад +2

      Why wouldn't she? She must be proud her student is gaining more self-confidence. Right before the exam Fern didn't think she was good enough to become a first class mage. Now she knows she's more than good enough.

  • @cw_hyuk
    @cw_hyuk 7 месяцев назад +5

    There's a reason why they introduced edel and sense's clone which will come to make sense much later! :D They also are keeping up with the pace with the adaptation aka the cliffhangers are roughly the same in the anime and manga.

  • @j.c.5245
    @j.c.5245 7 месяцев назад +9

    I don't read the manga, but i think Fern's plan has to be related to what she said about Fern spellcasting being faster.... If they can make it a spped contest instead of a mana pool one, they can win

  • @ardawen
    @ardawen 7 месяцев назад +4

    I just imagine Fern pouting at the Frieren clone, then saying "I am very disappointed in you miss Frieren", then she sits in a corner pouting not saying anything. The perfect way to mentally kill the Frieren clone

  • @MazGun
    @MazGun 7 месяцев назад +30

    I know everyone want to use the mimic plan, but since the clone didn't have minds, it won't work at all. 100% guaranteed

    • @regobing5435
      @regobing5435 7 месяцев назад +3

      They have the same behavour.
      It might actually work. They dont have a mind but they behave just like the characters.

    • @b-lotus5145
      @b-lotus5145 7 месяцев назад +9

      @ng5435 It won't, the clones have the only order to kill everyone there and I don't think Frieren is dumb enough to open a mimic knowing the enemies are there waiting for her.

    • @kenjyollethibanez6599
      @kenjyollethibanez6599 7 месяцев назад +8

      @@regobing5435 Still won't work if it truly copies Frieren's behavior. Despite having a rare grimoire back at the episode of Frieren and Fern met a Solar Dragon, she did not went directly to the nest to get the grimoire. She planned to fight it first before snatching it. If there's an enemy, she'll fight it first before indulging herself.

    • @kappikarlsefni
      @kappikarlsefni 7 месяцев назад +4

      Even if they trap clone Frieren with a mimic, it has already been established that original Frieren can get out on her own by blasting the inside of the mimic, so the clone would probably just do the same, assuming that clone Frieren even has a mind or would be drawn by a prospect in obtaining treasure inside a chest.

    • @regobing5435
      @regobing5435 7 месяцев назад

      @@kappikarlsefni Frieren doesnt usually do that or at least hesitates because of her hair

  • @Shinius
    @Shinius 7 месяцев назад +36

    "Nah, I'd win" - Fern

    • @Green-3c34y65vrbu
      @Green-3c34y65vrbu 7 месяцев назад +16

      are you Sousou no because you're Frieren, or are you Frieren because you're Sousou no?

    • @jchavs0212
      @jchavs0212 7 месяцев назад +15

      Fern gets donuted on her stomach by clone Frieren
      Frieren: Ah, that was my superfast donut technique that I have not used since the mhytical era

  • @waynewilliams1726
    @waynewilliams1726 7 месяцев назад +9

    Let me say this, If Fern was the mimic, everyone would die. Think about it.

  • @-quoreo-7196
    @-quoreo-7196 7 месяцев назад +3

    I'm thinking that the guy who went alone is going against Land so he's just hunched down there because there's numerous Land roaming around lol

  • @artygs1
    @artygs1 7 месяцев назад +2

    17:16 since it is a mimic and we know for a fact that it dont have a mind and cant talk, we can assume that each mimic would not communicate with each other to come up with a new plan but simply use the plan that already are known by themself before the mimic triggered, which would be safe to say thst the strat the real trio come up with is probably newly created according to the situation

  • @Mugen3
    @Mugen3 7 месяцев назад +1

    Mimic strategy is so awesome! You are super genuius! LOL

  • @jchavs0212
    @jchavs0212 7 месяцев назад +10

    2 key skills that Fern is better at than Frieren. Firing speed and mana concealing.
    I'm guessing Frieren and the others will agro clone Frieren and Fern will have to wait for the timing when clone Frieren is about to launch a big attack then Fern will Zoltraak the clone.

    • @RJSouza2
      @RJSouza2 7 месяцев назад +3

      I don't think it's ever stated Fern has better mana concealing. She's just exceptional at it for her age and for a human.

    • @mbpoblet
      @mbpoblet 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@RJSouza2 It doesn't need to be better, just good enough to get past Frieren's copy's mana sensing while it's distracted murdering everyone else.

    • @symawi312
      @symawi312 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@RJSouza2I think it is confirmed at some point later on, but here in the story it's already heavily implied during the first exam I think. Frieren ran into 3 stille but had to settle on a roundabout tactic to get it in close enough range while sitting still so mana wouldn't leak out. Meanwhile it's not show but very much implied in the little flashback that fern just walked up to the first stille they saw and used the bird catching spell

    • @nirolf12
      @nirolf12 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@RJSouza2 Frieren had problems detecting her since she was a child, so she can pull it off. But yeah, I also don't think it was ever directly stated

  • @Vatsu03
    @Vatsu03 7 месяцев назад +4

    Even Sense copy is a pacifist (she only immobilized Edel when she could pierce her heart or brain)

  • @amoghyadav7840
    @amoghyadav7840 7 месяцев назад +5

    Edel is an important character... very important 😂 you will know

    • @bubbletea7029
      @bubbletea7029 7 месяцев назад +1

      Sadly she's very underrated she's not even in the top 20 characters popularity poll 😢

  • @Green-3c34y65vrbu
    @Green-3c34y65vrbu 7 месяцев назад +22

    6:27 guess what, Solo Leveling?? you CAN use video game-esque concepts without it feeling out of place. as long as you don't lean into it it and use your creativity, lol. (referring to the mini-map touch-screen menu, of course)

    • @Deer8616
      @Deer8616 7 месяцев назад +17

      Bro this comment would get dunked on in a solo leveling comment section. It's crazy how it feels like all the manwha readers will defend genuine criticism against solo leveling. It has been a very annoying fan base so far because of that fact

    • @Yewtewba
      @Yewtewba 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​​@@Deer8616the funny thing is, it can kind of be explained in-universe why the system in Solo Leveling is shitty.

    • @ninestar_
      @ninestar_ 7 месяцев назад +1

      I don't agree with your point. The whole idea of the system in solo leveling is for it to be an out of place power. You haven't been paying attention. It's clear that the game-esque concepts in frieren is done seamlessly because it is magic, in a world with magic, where mages exist and study magic. Also, I'm being kind enough not to spoil you on what the system even is in solo leveling. I do encourage you to give the web novel or manwhua a try if you are not convinced. And before you say I'm a solo leveling dickrider, I'll just say I'm not and save you some time there. I don't really think solo leveling has a good story because it is too focused on a single character however I think you're objectively wrong on this.

    • @lordfifth4520
      @lordfifth4520 7 месяцев назад

      They arent referencing the mini map, they are referencing the secret room

    • @Green-3c34y65vrbu
      @Green-3c34y65vrbu 7 месяцев назад +5

      @@lordfifth4520 wtf does what they're referencing have to do with what I'm referencing?

  • @NitroOfficiel
    @NitroOfficiel 7 месяцев назад +1

    "Is that serie?" No this is probably Ewig the Sage, look a lot like Fern strangely enough.

  • @gustavomartinez9729
    @gustavomartinez9729 7 месяцев назад +1

    By reading the manga, ofc they want to end at certain points sometimes but, they do not stretch at all of that is in the manga as it was presented in this episode haha. They basically do a 1-1 adaptation. Great reaction as always!

  • @sorakirisaki5330
    @sorakirisaki5330 7 месяцев назад +2

    problem with the mimic is that the clone has no mind, just like how sense's clone is not a pacifist

  • @fam3at762
    @fam3at762 7 месяцев назад +1

    10:51 funny you say that bc the particles she uses are exactly how an old person would speak. She even uses "washi" as first person pronouns which is typically only used by the elderly.

  • @bernardszymanski6358
    @bernardszymanski6358 7 месяцев назад +1

    Amazing hair, Lindsay

  • @skjorta1984
    @skjorta1984 7 месяцев назад +1

    all of Edel's yapping 😂 is in the manga

  • @squaremage
    @squaremage 7 месяцев назад +1

    If it's me I'll go back to get some Mimics and throw inside the boss chamber. wait a few min and ez win.

  • @sweet-nessu
    @sweet-nessu 7 месяцев назад

    I also felt like they jipped us out of the fern v frieren fight but at the same time I love Wirbel’s character so I didn’t mind seeing the other fights too much. Better now rather than later when everything’s calmed down.

  • @skycladobserver9246
    @skycladobserver9246 7 месяцев назад +2

    She was hit to the left of her heart otherwise she would have been dead at that moment of impact much less incapable of acting/talking.

  • @darkangel8192
    @darkangel8192 7 месяцев назад +1

    Fake Frieren: "This is now a bullet-hell game."

  • @lexarmatt4058
    @lexarmatt4058 7 месяцев назад +1

    First come to my mind is mimic 😂

  • @Regenmacher175
    @Regenmacher175 7 месяцев назад

    It is my headcannon now that Frieren and her group narrowly missed Marcille and her group in this dungeon. Ah dungeons.

  • @teguhlg
    @teguhlg 7 месяцев назад +1

    Fern one of the fastest mage, faster than Frieren.
    Fern one of the best at concealing manna, better than Frieren.
    I think thats the formula for Fern to beat Frieren's copy.

  • @LadyShoko101
    @LadyShoko101 7 месяцев назад +1

    Lindsey your hair looks lovely

  • @SmilingMatthew
    @SmilingMatthew 6 месяцев назад

    Mommy Methode ❤

  • @Dan_Jado
    @Dan_Jado 7 месяцев назад +1

    Fern is faster, simple as that. As long as the other make an opening, she could shot faster.
    I think that clone has Frieren mana strength, but only the visible strength. If an old demon like aura can't see her full mana, maybe this demon/monster also can't see/copy it