Qiqi is FUN, but NOT important for Clorinde! (Update)
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- Опубликовано: 18 авг 2024
- Although this team is not a meta team for DPS, the main idea is creating a unique team that utilises unpopular things such as skyward blade, qiqi, and physical in general. And you create a team thats pretty good! It's quite cool to be thinking outside the box rather than the same tried and tested team archtypes.
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0:00 main strengths of the team
0:37 its fun and original, but not super meta!
2:08 is the flute a good replacement?
3:02 skyward blade refinements are strong
3:39 furina is kinda needed
4:52 can you use other electro dps?
5:28 you can just play other teams
5:57 qiqi's role
7:10 mika's issues
8:30 a cryo healer isn't needed, just for fun
9:08 n2e spam isn't much of an improvement
9:47 having fun is important
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Just wanted to clarify this since there's people on both sides misunderstanding the purpose of the team. It's neither a meme team that isn't actually good, nor is it a super strong Clorinde team that made Qiqi meta for DPS! Instead, It's a creative and original team that let's people have fun with "unlucky 50/50 5 stars", whilst being an easy to play team that you can't really die with. For most players, the game is about having fun after all.
what artifact sets you reccomend for clorinde and qiqi here? Love your content bro
At least can work for Imaginarium theatre of it's electro-cryo-Geo limited
These are the kind of teams that I really want. Fun teams especially with Qiqi in it
@@seankenneally6369for Clorinde, you can just use your typical build. Be it TF or Wimsy. On Qiqi, you have a couple options. Maiden's is alright, Clam is a bit better, and Noblesse is always a great option for any support.
@@TheTroklokaeh. Without Furina, the team is kinda ass.
"This game is about having fun after all" Most controversial comment jamie has ever said
FUN IS NOT ALLOWED
@@whisperwalkfulthats what my friends say when I tell them I'm a diluc,yanfei,razor,cyno, wriothesly main
grass is green take
it's still a real team and maybe even qiqi's best use case.
that's a W in my book
I think Qiqi/Furina/Raiden/Nahida is the best
@@MokipokiBeautiful that's just a hyperbloom + cryo(fridge bloom) team template. Qiqi just there for healing so I wouldn't really call it a qiqi team honestly
@@izzme5204 But there aren't many teams where Qiqi can be used normally
I'mma say try this team but use Baizhu instead of Zhongli..
Baizhu's Teamwide heal to mitigate Furina's teamwide HP..
His ult gives shield which she needs mostly for the knock back resist..
His ult gives heal as well, making the stacking much faster for her bond of life..
And this team looks more aesthetically pleasing as it has
- Furina & Clorinde as ex Archon & Soldier
- Baizhu & Qiqi as doctor & assistant / immortal patient
@@GReyn don't have neither Baizhu nor Zhongli.
i'm just using Layla
As a speedrunner, you deserve to call this a non-meta team, but for most, this will be an excellent, no-reset and comfortable team that will clear faster in single runs than their usual teams. Few will admit it though :)
Im sorry but if this team clears faster than your normal teams maybe your normal teams just suck ass
Im sorry but if this team clears faster than your normal teams maybe your normal teams just suck ass
Yeah its kinda sad that people have take the sides of either "this team is META any team thats not meta isnt a team" or "its a FUN team anyone who uses meta dont know how to have fun", when in reality there are team like this that doesn't do Meta lvl dmg but still doing funny number and very much clear the abyss easily/consistently.
Totally agreed with all of this! Even though it's a meme team I appreciate you making it because I love this type of "hidden synergy" team that uses parts of every character's kit to come together. It is part of what makes Genshin such a fascinating game.
I have been trying to make Qiqi work for so long, just to 36* with her continuously (without resetting or changing teams) in a team where she feels impactful (e.g. not Qiqi Hyperbloom), and thanks to this I was finally able to do it. (And yes, I did try Pyro Plunge Qiqi, it made me cry)
My experience with this Clorinde team:
- Extremely comfy, pretty easy to clear with, just not as fast
- Doesn't use most of my in-demand units, freeing up the other side (I usually use fischl with Navia and I want to run them on either side)
- Really fun to watch, but can be confusing to play because I'm not used to the fast attack speed and dashy playstyle
- Qiqi's energy requirements are so high when using her off field
- Faced issue of losing Cryo aura/being unable to SC especially in a 2nd rotation because of Qiqi's absurd CD but ultimately could still clear so it's fine
I couldn't do it nearly as fast as most other showcases I saw, but my Clorinde is missing investment and everyone important is C0R0: ruclips.net/video/gNu-GrqulBM/видео.html
Overall, purely because of the units involved and because it's funny, I'll probably be returning to this team in the future, even though it won't replace my "main" Clorinde build. Thanks again for sharing the team info and showcase with us!
Ive been trying to make qiqi work too. Imo her best team out of clorinde is with furina beidou and fischl, and in singletarget replace beidou for yelan or xingqiu
And imo shes the best at this team, since her cryo element is needed for superconduct.
@@skyflakes145 Taser is definitely a classic I've slept on for too long. I attempted it before Furina came out, but I'll definitely have to try that variant since she actually makes sense to use there.
The point where u said u wanna play Navia-Clorinde on each sides is so sweet.
We love Clorivia
I just love this quote which applies perfectly here: “if my grandmother had wheels, she would have been a bike”.
"Stop it 👩🏼"
C4 Layla is potentially a sleeper pick here, has decent amounts of cryo application via the shooting star things and then she also buffs normal atk damage. I wish I had a skyward sword to test this team, seems like it would be fun.
My thoughts abt this: what for are u changing zhongli tho? Fischl? Then u would want a lot more anemo character in slot of layla for vv
Layla replaces zhongli, qiqi is important to the team with her healing ticks on attacks. You also get cryo resonance this way.@@ferend4038
You need healing for clorinde faster BoL accumulation.. so no.
@@JohnCivor Well he says in the video that boosting it to N2E spam with more BOL generation is not a significant improvement, so no.. you don't need faster BOL accumulation.
I hope hoyoverse pushes this type of playstyle for certain future electro and cryo characters. Fast attacks that can deal both elemental and physical damage. It also inherently solves the issue with physical teams which is breaking elemental shields.
they have being doing it since 1.0, with Fischl, they even supported the idea, there's a craftable bow that support it, they even relessed s bow that complement the strat
physical teams issues arent breaking shields
@ascreamingarcticfox5395 it's definitely one of the main issues. Current physical teams are unable to deal with the lectors and waste a lot of time dealing with the abyss mages and such.
@@XDark8SlayerX not in actuality because they have 3 different elements to break shields usually, all conisting of team members that do a very good job at that. the only disadvantaged phys dps is eula, but again its not a big deal because she'll almost always have a second cryo + be able to spam skill and itll be enough
@ascreamingarcticfox5395 Eula's best teams normally use raiden and mika, which have terrible elemental application. Rosaria isn't great either in this department, to be honest. The only good teammates that have very good aplication are yelan and fischl, but their use case is limited.
instructions unclear, should i pull qiqi or save for furina?
C6 qiqi
qiqi 100%
Pull furina, you'll get qiqi. Simple solution
@@lordsushi5356 most relatable comment I’ve seen.
Get furina first, qiqi come to you one way or another
I got Clorinde because of this team and having Skyward Sword R5 and Qiqi C6 lol. I dont really care if it's not super broken. Comfy teams are fun!
Having fun is what matters unless ….
Having fun seems to be a foreign concept to some
It's just fun to make the most chaotic things work. I wouldn't call it a meme team, just a chaotic cook that actually works. It's always been the strength of Genshin to be the ONLY Hoyo game that allows for this amount of cooking.
I've been playing around with Qiqi. I've been running beidou for the interruption resist (and some shielding and res reduction as well at C6) and it works pretty well, and I slotted furina in the last slot and it feels extremely strong. Sadly I agree that anything that isn't furina is a huge downgrade. I tried C2 Yelan and it was actually kind of painful. That being said, I am loving including Qiqi for the change to N2E, I appreciate any more ways to play with Clorinde teambuilding!
Imagine if they increased the party to 5 zhongli would never leave my team and maybe I wouldn’t suck
It's a wonderful team for a more casual abyss run
"Not super meta" = clear abyss as easily as Alhaitham, Arlecchino and Neuvillette and is quite easy and fun to play.
There is a big difference between “clearing easily” and “clearing fast”
You shouldn’t be dying with a zhongli anyways
@@ChAnTAxR Sure but I put Clorinde/Qiqi/Furina/Zhongli on one side, Yae/Fischl/Nahida/Baizhu on the other, it's going smoothly, no pression, no stress, quite easy and fast
@@ChAnTAxR Sort of, but the way I see it, if it takes me a few resets without a sustain to clear 10 seconds faster vs. I clear with a sustain on my team in 1 easygoing attempt, I've actually lost more time in my life rather than gaining 10 seconds on a clear playing a meta higher DPS Clorinde team with no sustain.
@@fredxu99 like I said, “you shouldn’t be dying with a zhongli”
If you need TWO sustains to clear comfortable with one of them being Zhongli, than your character builds is probably on wack and you would save more time getting good gear before attempting abyss, but you do you.
@@gillesnotard69 A Clorinde team with just Zhongli and three actual units would clear faster with barely any difference in comfort unless you have a bad zhongli build. So it don’t really see the point of a QQ unless you just like QQ which is valid.
If you don't have skyward blade just don't try this, it's passive is the whole purpose of the team
Since this team has Furina, Clorinde can use Vermillion to buff the ATK for her electro and physical dmg and since the Skyward sword gives you ER her bursting every rotation wouldn't be much of a problem
Love this team because I've never given Qiqi the love I wanted to give her, I'm def gonna try it, although I kinda feel bad at having Clorinde's sig and not using it.
I wonder if you can replace Zhongli with someone else to get a resonance, maybe Layla w/ Millelith for the extra crit rate from double cryo.
I was thinking that! I'm gonna try it at some point
What about switching out zhongli for Layla and keeping Mika, Furina. You are only downgrading your shield a bit but u are getting Cryo Resonance + Mikas attack speed, healing and physical buff while having super conduct (with less sustained healing)
I found Clorinde, xingqiu, venti and Mika as fun as quickbloom nahida, furina, baizhu. Its hilarious watching the samurai from inazuma getting dragged by venti'a burst just to get quick shot to death by clorinde because of +13 E skill mika and the swords raining down on the enemy by xingqiu.
Its honestly bullshit how quick things die the moment the gun goes off because they are all gathered together LOL
You got the key component of this build wrong from my understanding. Clorinde’s bond of life and healing have a unique interaction. Furina and qiqi are the only characters that give healing bonus to other characters allowing clorinde to n2 e rather than n3 e. Qiqi is not replace able cause then you go back to n3 e.
What about n1e? I've realized that if you replace zhongli with diona, you'll fix qiqi problem of her lack of energy and healed enough to n1e like he said around the end of the video
@@04cassiusphanthanhbinhjake the theory behind this is healing percent not healing value. You would want to to increase healing percent on clorinde without neutering her damage. If hoyo release a healing sword and you use a healing circlet possibly.
I would like to say isn't agv the best team for clorinde
Does the Skyward Blade passive count as normal attack damage, so it would be buffed by Marechaussee 2pc and Thoma C6? As a Zhongli-not-haver, what are the alternatives for him in this team? I saw someone mention C2 Nahida which I do have. Would you recommend C2 Nahida for an offensive replacement and C6 Thoma as a different defensive option? Or maybe Layla for her C4 buff?
I believe it only counts as physical atk dmg. and you can test nahida out and see if its still comfortable without the shield. if not, layla works!
I have Zhongli but tested with other Shielders anyway. The most reliable clears I got was using Kirara. I also tried using Diona and she did ok-ish. I can see Layla and Thoma or even a C4 Yanfei working but I dont have them built to test. What is great about Zhongli in this particular team is his 20% elemental and Physical res shred.
@@hlonghi Yeah the res shred on both is nice. I just tried C6 Thoma and C4 Layla. Looked like neither of their buffs apply to the skyward blade damage. Also, seemed like Clorinde applied too much electro to get much use out of cryo resonance when I tried Layla as a 2nd cryo.
whats qiqi best build for this team? noblesse? OHC? maidens?
ohc
Wouldn't Ocean-Hued Clam be even better on Qiqi than Maiden Beloved?
Maiden is better in terms of healing but yeah, Clam set is overall much better. Her healing is so high she basically sends mini nukes every few seconds.
Also I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure Clam damage can be buffed by superconduct, which would work well in this team
@@Renetiger000 yeah it can be buffed by superconduct. Unfortunately it also means it can be reduced by phys resistance. Honestly I would like it to be constant, or at least the real 29k ticks without buffs always(in practice u get 24.5k at max)
Hi! i really wanna try out this team so bad but unfortunately i dont have skyward blade with me, what could be any substitute for this team, can i use R3 Aquila for this team comp? thanks!!
No sorry as I mention in this video if you don’t use skyward it kinda defeats the purpose of the team
I see everyone is having fun here. But I have serious question. Will this team even be playable without current abyss blessing? It seems almost too strong boosting both electro and phys(furina's dmg too) dmg% by 48%.
This makes me wonder if you could pull of N1E with Pneuma Furina or with Diona as the shielder.
Qiqi is cute but she's so not fun to play (at least if she's used as a healer support like in Chlorinde team).
Her cryo application is non existent, her healing with skill takes too long (4.5s iirc), her cooldown for skill and burst are long, her energy generation is shit so we can't even fill that burst of 80 energy cost, on top of that we try to use her as an off field support healer, and even if we could use her burst everytime, whenever we do use it, the enemies get killed quickly cuz of Chlorinde and Qiqi no longer has skill or burst to use for next wave of enemies... Making her useless and more importantly very boring and frustrating to play.
So, I don't think I can agree with your video title "Qiqi is fun".
I'll be honest, I find having Zhongli/Nahida/Fischl along with Clorinde gives good survivability, decent reactions, and decent damage. Clorinde's E really can handle her own healing, and no one else is out on the field to take much (if any damage).
It's not "meta" either, but I think it does the job.
wdym "not meta", nahida and fischl are the two best teammates for clorinde and a core for clorinde teams...
@@constellation5534exactly. Tf lol. What is this dude talking about haha
@@constellation5534 The "meta" would have a second dendro rather than Zhongli for "big pp damage."
If Barbara's E do not apply hydro on the character, that would be fun as well with qiqi (for people with furina)
Honestly, hear me out here. With no Zhongli I just decided to use Dehya instead to functionally accomplish a similar synergy, Dehya's E field provides a DR and Interrupt Resist which means you can just spam without much worry unless you get sustained hits or a boss does a big attack. You miss out on the ele shred of Zhongli but from my testing the damage fall off isn't actually that significant and Dehya provides some nice off-field damage (This totally isn't cope just let me use Dehya in a team that isnt Hypercarry or burgeon PLEASE)
Hear me out part 2: C4 Layla. She buffs normal atk damage, can run millileth, and her shield is pretty beefy, viable for use if no Zhongli.
@@fredxu99 now I just have to get 5 Laylas, ty for this info
wouldn't baizhu (aggravate) instead of Zhongli be better? (from a min maxing position) then maybe a rosaria? just trying to get the most out of skyward blade lmao
super cool team! would it possible to do clorinde, rosaria, lisa, qiqi?
i have every piece of the puzzle except furina sadge
After several experimenting of team comps, I'm settled with Furina, Nahida, and Qiqi. No idea if where it stands in "meta" point tho.
Hey, unrelated, if my Nilou has over 66k hp from dochand, would she benefit a lot or little from her signature weapon?
may i know why qiqi but not someone like charlotte, or diona?
The biggest tragedy of all this is that I yearn for a non-cope team to play my cute lil Qiqi, but I do not plan on ever getting Chlorinde 😭
You have found your answer then. You k what to do next
@@KFCG427 Get stuck in a loop of despair over knowing there is a team for her that I'll never play lol
What F2P weapon would you recommend for Qiqi in this team?
Sacrificial is best or go for favonius otherwise any er sword is alright
Flute or Fav.
Sac makes your rotations really flexible
The big part of reason people want to play this team is because of Qiqi, stop saying you dont need her😂 people want to play QIQI
I dont want play Qiqi too
The team looks fun and I want to try it eventually. Though I don't have skyward blade(R3 Lost Prayer and R2 Skyward Pride though...) yet so it's on the shelf for me.
all we care about is a team with qiqi
wait. could you do n1e if you had mika instead of zhongli?
has anyone tried this with mika instead of qiqi and chongyun (with broken pines) instead of zhongli? I wanna go for an atk speed version of this team
Should be enough the cristilize to replace Zhongli for Yun Jin?
is zhongli replacable tho? i think he's doing the least in the team
Meta doesn't exist in a game without content
For this team to speedrun you need Clorinde c2 and have Zhongli replaced with Nahida.
Also Qiqi needs ocean clam and heal 9k per tick to deal 140k AOE damage per rotation, which is not a negligible amount and it does take good artifacts to achieve (to have enough ATK and ER) not just scrapes.
I mean if you're talking about speedrun then you shouldn't've consider this team in the first place
I want to give this team a try but despite being a day 1 player I don't have a Skyward Blade....everything else yes even a c2 Furina! But no Skyward Blade
Probably a good team to build because the Consecrated beast will be back very soon.
this team is as much of a "physical team" as my freminet furina kuki nahida team being called physical mate
Has anyone tried swapping zhongli for another healer to achieve n1 e?
damage bonuses effect wp passives? really? thought it was just resistance down and def down
Btw one of clorinde best teams in hyperbloom with fischl furina and nahida with prototype amber R5 , this is her best single target team by far at C0
I don't think i believe that
Not fischl, baizhu. Interuption resist, more dendro application and dendro buff thanks to baizhu. It's quickbloom.
at lower investment that's a possibility, but at higher investment hyperbloom tends to be more of a comfort team and plateaus in dmg
Ok spreadsheet warrior
Is charlotte viable in this team? Her C1 provides sustained team healing.
charlotte is viable yes!
It's Qiqi's best team and she's still replacable in it 😭 at least she is the best cryo healer in the slot
no worries, just use her and clear 36* easily whilst having fun!
theres plenty of teams that are best for a character but they are replaceable, also it kinda depends on what you need and for a casual who doesnt wanna die but also have a solid team shes much less replaceable if thats their criteria
Too bad Genshin doesn't have a way to get specific 5 star standard weapons like HSR/WW. I'd totally go for S5 skyward for the meme potential with extra resources overtime, but would never purposely pull for it on a specific banner.
I'm not playing hsr and wuwa but is it different than chronicled wish?
@@chuckguy120 Wuwa let's you choose the reward for the standard banner so you can target specific 5 star standard weapons. HSR let's you use 30 wishes worth of starglitter to purchase a 5 star standard weapon of your choosing.
darn i have everything BUT furina (yet🙏)
This is not really Clorinde-Qiqi synergy. This is actually mostly Furina-Qiqi-M.Hunter synergy.
Not really. It's mostly the fact that clorinde can effectively use skyward blade whilst being buffed by furina. Like jamie said, the core is clorinde and furina, cryo healer isn't needed
@@chuckguy120 try searching "Qiqi Furina" and see videos from 6-8 months ago.
@chuckguy120 actually, a cryo healer helps since qiqi increase your incoming healing
Guys just put Beidou instead of Zhongli and enjoy your easy clears
Nah, hoyo is just tired of buffing xiangling so they decided to buff fischl now.
😂
People just want the best team to play. Casual especially will look up a guide and use the most recommended team and it is mainly the Meta team
i'd argue that casual don't want to play the best team, as in Arlecchino case for example her best teams doesn't offer much in the confort and survivability side of the things, and probably they're would rather use Zhongli instead of Kazuha in that team.
Having to explain to people what fun is blows my mind 😂y’all need to do better.
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Crazy how genshin players get excited about using qiqi. Must be the usual garbage patch.
Why playing random garbage unit = fun? And playing a strong "meta" team is not?
Have you tried this team? It's very fun. Way more fun than any team I have ever played with Nahida. 😅
you're misunderstanding. people playing what they want = fun. whether its weak or strong.
It’s a game. You play a game to have fun. People have fun in different ways. No way is better, it’s all about fun. That’s all my friend
@@jamiekb9v the assumption is that a lot of people want to play Qiqi? Or is it just playing on the fact that audience loves a "good comeback story" - in this case the "perceived worst 5* character and one of the worst 5* weapons" have a "viable" use case? Anyway great play of RUclips meta Jamie. Clap
@@darkslayer3838 Bro the video has been out for only an hour and do you see how many people in these comments have already asked questions about artifacts and other weapons to use on Qiqi? Clearly people want to play Qiqi
this team is unique, still strong enough to clear abyss and one of the only teams that use superconduct reaction