Ed Kollin explains Aircraft Engine Oil
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Ed Kollin, the inventor of the popular CamGuard oil additive, talks about engine oil in this video - what it does, and what pilots and aircraft owners should know about it. This conversation was recorded during AirVenture 2021 in Oshkosh, WI.
Special thanks to Edward Kollin and John Whitehead for making this conversation and recording possible.
Visit www.aslcamguar... for details on the additive Mr. Kollin invented and mentions during the video.
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What a treasure! Great interview, Martin. I'm glad to see you seeking out experts like Doug Rozendall and Ed Kollin. I could listen to both of those guys for hours, and I like the way you just prime the pump and let them talk.
Thanks for the kind words.
- Martin
Nice to see a real lifetime specialist relentlessly spending his time to educate the interested audience in the these things related to aircraft engines. It is like wealth management: if it is really crucial, do it yourself. And the marketplace has benefits to offer. 😉🧐 Thank you, Martin, useful content as every time!👍
Thank you, Günther. I appreciate the kind feedback.
- Martin
Take the time to watch this. This is a tremendous video and should be mandatory for aircraft owners. The first 10 minutes give Mr. Kollin’s background and extensive knowledge, and the rest of the time is a great question and answer session that helped me greatly. Thank you for a great interview.
Thank you for the kind feedback, Doug.
- Martin
That ain't noise! It was great watching those Bell 47's constantly flying over . A ag helo operation in Pennsylvania when I was a kid had a fleet of them working in State Forest...
Martin, what a nice video...your respect for your guest along with your knack for asking the right questions, is a model for the way it should be done.
Thank you, Rusty.
- Martin
Like 457. The man never plugged his product. Love that. He didn't even talk about it until almost the end of the whole interview! But he tells you how he uses it himself. Speaks volumns! This man is clearly Mr. Aviation Oil. I thought I knew something about oil, but learned lots, much to my horror quite frankly. But the real point of this comment is this:
My hat is tipped to M Pauly, who had the unusual foresight among RUclipsrs to pick this topic and this person. Quite frankly that deserves an award, and I vote Best Choice for Interview in Aviation Maintenance Related for 2021.
Thank you for the kind words and award nomination, though I have to give credit to Mr. John Whitehead here. John is the one who introduced me to Mr. Kollin during AirVenture 2021 and suggested I do an interview with him. I merely jumped on the opportunity as it presented itself to me.
Regards,
Martin
Very good information about oil, it properties, and how to best maintain your engine. I never used Cam Guard prior to watching this video, but I will now.
Glad you found this helpful, Jim.
- Martin
Excellent, Ed is a genius, i am an old gear head also, my dad was a 40 year Air Canada mechanic i and flew on all sorts of aircraft, as he was licensed for piston airplanes also .My favorite was his bosses Twin Comanche PA 39. We would fly from Montreal to Albany New York on some weekends , fantastic memories. Subbed and shared .Great content...love the background sounds , lots of choppers...
Yes, sounded like the old open cockpit Bell 47
Thanks, Andy. I know, to many pilots this "noise" will be music, not an annoyance.
Regards,
Martin
@@martinpauly Hi Martin, went to Hawkesberry Ont this morning. Am member of the Montreal Flying Council.This afternoon i took a flight in a mint vintage Schweizer 2 22 for an incredible 41 minute flight .Was towed by a Fresh Pawnee 235hp. Will get my grandson to post a video soon, as i am not so great with tech lol..Have a great week....
I thoroughly enjoyed the knowledge and experience of Ed. We tend to think of the guys in the lab as some obscure person in a white lab coat playing with their Beakers. It's nice to see a real person who has accumulated years of experience and knowledge. Thanks to Ed and you Martin for sharing this information. If it drove home one thing to me it would be not skimping on oil changes and make sure you have the right oil for the job at hand. Great video!
Thank you, Preston.
- Martin
"Go to the Aviation Dept at Home Depot", LOL.
Martin.
I must commend you on this video. It is the best informative video anyone has ever presented. Everything your guest have mentioned is 100% correct with his information.
I too have been doing research with oils too. My test platform is an automobile (1997 NISSAN SENTRA) So far oil testing with the original engine has reached 635000 miles and getting 40 Mike's to the gallon. It is true about leaving the oil filler cap off and the dipstick. It works to prolong the. Cleannes of the oil.
Good presentation 😃
Thank you for the kind words, I appreciate it.
- Martin
Manor Dee, I started doing this a few years ago on 2 TSIO-360s and an O-470. Get the steam out. The only problem is often the caps stay off for awhile. Especially if its 1100 at night, I'm bushed, and have a serious day the next morning.
Great presentation Martin! I met Ed at OSH & showed him my Blackstone oil report. Wo me stating anything to him, he determined I added the full 16oz bottle of Camguard to my 6qt oil change & didnt ad any more throughout the full oil cycle? WOW! So he discussed that I should ad 10oz to my 6qt oil change, then dump 2oz in 3 full bottles of oil and label them “CG” for my oil cycle. He also stated that he sees that I aggressively lean my engine wo even asking me if I do! It was very enjoyable to have discussions with Ed and his booth partner. I also started using Camguard in my autos. Thanks Martin & Ed for a great discussion.
What a magnificent subject, this is a great knowledge, i've learned a lot from this interview, thanks a lot for sharing this interview, all the best.
How about that! I just came back from changing the oil in my 1966 Beech Debonair. Thanks for being relevant Martin.
31:50 When two pilots hear a helicopter go by...
Great Video, Really loved the content!
We are pilots - we can't help it!
- Martin
One of the best, most informative videos I’ve seen. Just Excellent despite the noise.
Thank you, John.
- Martin
Wow! What a great wealth of knowledge on a critical part of flying piston aircraft. I will certainly endeavor to make use of Ed's recommendations.
Martin. Thanks for having this info presented. It greatly increased my aircraft engine oil knowledge.
You are very welcome, Noel.
- Martin
This is great! Learning in more detail how our engines work and should be maintained, and why. Thank you
Exactly. I will apply to my private plane as well as new TGDI twin turbo F150 4wd truck.
Excellent!!! Thanks Martin and Ed. Very useful information.
We would cover as needed the oil cooler on the clubs PA 28-140 with that tape from Home Depot’s aviation department…
Thanks Martin to you and your quest. Very informative.
Thank you, Dale.
- Martin
Excellent interview. Enjoyed it very much! Love tribology an study of lubricants in general.
Thank you - glad you enjoyed it, David!
- Martin
Great video Martin! Very interesting, informative and use/helpful! Thanks for your time and work!
Thank you, Wolf!
- Martin
Excellent interview! Nice topic to talk about, I’ll use this tips from now!
Thanks, Bruno.
- Martin
Fantastic interview. Is easy to see that he is really an subject matter expert. I learnt more here than reading many Continental manuals!.
Yes. Not just does he know a lot, he is also very good at explaining it in terms many people can understand.
- Martin
Awesome video Martin. Thank you
Thank you, Sir!
- Martin
If you bond a lubricant to the metal you can prevent corrosion.
Wear is also reduced because no metal to metal contact occurs.
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Very good interesting info from a great source! Answers many questions I have. Thanks for sharing Martin!
Glad you found it interesting, Bob.
- Martin
Very informative video. Thanks Martin.
My pleasure!
- Martin
Geez! I was looking for some dope on oldtimer car engines but this was great! Still wonder what would be best to do for old (70 + years) engines that spend a lot of time in garages between joy rides but this video brought up many issues governing internal rust from blow-by etc.....thank you! Now about that ZDDP...
Glad you enjoyed this talk, Andreas, even if it was a bit off topic for what you were looking for.
Greetings from Iowa!
- Martin
I USE OLIVE OIL MIXED WITH CASTOR OIL AND A DASH OF COD LIVER OIL
We aren't talking laxatives here!
Wow I have always been interested in lubricants and technology and details about it all. This interview and explanation was right up my alley!
Glad you enjoyed this talk!
- Martin
Excellent !
Volkswagen incorporated active air flow management system in their engines since the beginning. Interesting that Continental and Lycoming didn't think that necessary.
Outstanding Class !
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Thanks for sharing, great video.
Thank you, Bud!
- Martin
Man, you can tell this guy has signed a lot of NDA's in his day. Great info tho. Another brain that I wish we could download.
Very informative talk. Keep up
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.
Great stuff
Finally someone I can trust about oil! Very nice interview and great choice of subject and expert. Bravo.
Thank you!
- Martin
Top notch content Martin.
Thank you - glad you enjoyed it.
- Martin
Amazing information. Thank you! Reiterates the importance of the right oil and additives.
Enlightening
Thanks, Martin
Thank you for this information on this very important topic. Love the channel.
Can't wait until AVGAS gets this needed update, which as I understand means finally no more leaded fuel. I assume that the lead replacement additive will be more compatible with modern piston engine oil formulas that actually have some detergency, vs just some dispersant in the mix. I am guessing still no full synthetic oils will be recommended unless the engine has a complete tear down and overhaul to get rid of existing deposits that contain leaded compounds?
I wish I could answer your question regarding synthetic oils, but I do not know for sure.
- Martin
Awesome video Martin!
Thanks that was interesting.
Yes I believe getting the lead out of AV gas will be very beneficial for aircraft piston engine longevity and much reduced maintenance. Spark plugs will last and sticky valves will probably be history. Also I think more and better synthetic bases will become popular as the top premium synthetic oils provide fantastic film strength and therefore much better wear protection, keep deposits in check and are much more thermally stabile, meaning they don't thicken at low temps and don't thin at high temps as compared to conventional oils. Jet engines have long relied on true synthetic oils because conventional oils can not do the job. Those jet oils are not even close to the cheap automotive type so called synthetics we see on the shelves at the big retailer's and stuff. I believe jet oils are top tier group V ester based oils and they are rather expensive. It think it would have been interesting if Mr Kollin would have expanded more on issues of the lead not staying in suspension in synthetic oils. He eluded to that when he said the wrong synthetics. So what would be the right synthetics I'm wondering? Or did he mean no synthetics at all. Amsoil & Mobil had synthetic AV oil out for a short time in the 70s but I know Amsoil dropped it because of red tape & costs of certification and possibly the lead issue.
Very interesting talk however. Thanks Martin
Thank you, Dennis. Maybe Mr. Kollin will see this here and chime in with some more information.
- Martin
@@martinpauly you betcha ! I'm probably one of the world's oldest students ha! Never got my ratings When my Pop was around, he was a CFI n stuff. But I am very interested in this stuff hoping to maybe get at least my sport pilot one day here. and I have used Av gas in some of my ground vehicles engines as well because it does last good. 👍
Please correct if i’m wrong but I think the Shell Aeroshell comes with “Camguard” already added.
Shell does not add CamGuard to their oil... Shell has a credible but inferior additive package.
Great video. I understand that he recommends changing oil every 4 months or 35 hours.
Hello Martin from Quarantine house lockdown Sydney Australia.
Oils from an expert 🙂
Well now I know how the contamination in oil occurs.
Hot oil =evaporation of water, and remove filler cap to release some water, also.
It would have been a good question: what is the effect in changing synthetic to mineral oil in the same engine?
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Thanks, John. Maybe Mr. Kollin will see your question and answer it here.
Good luck getting out of the lockdown for all of you down under!
- Martin
@@martinpauly I don't envy the epidemiologist.
I own a IO-360, but my question is, why can’t Lycoming and Continental build in a very strong inspection port on the case to allow viewing of the camshaft and or lubricating of the camshaft while it’s not running? Also meanwhile, auto gas has detergents and no lead which prevents all these problems.
Subscribed..
Thanks!
- Martin
Ik really enjoyed your talk about this oil subject. And thank you so much for sharing this information. What i don't understand is: how does the water get into the engine. Is it because of the Blow out, during compression stroke? Thank you. Kind regards from Brussels
Thanks for your comment. Water is a byproduct of combustion; from there it gets into case with blow-by and through the engine oil. There is also the possibility of introducing water into the engine case through condensation.
- Martin
Great video. Two questions> Does it work with synthetic oil then? Seemed unclear. Also, is there a shelf life of unused Cam Guard?
Did he recommend an oil change interval?
Can I put cam guard in a twin turbo continental engine ?
Martin. I have a 2004 T 206. Lycoming io540 aj1a. Manufacture says do not fly lean of peak. No explanation. If this was your airplane, would you fly it LOP. Only your opinion not asking you to put yourself out there recommending something that goes against manufacturer guidelines
Don, I would first determine how far the engine can be leaned without roughness. If that is far enough lean-of-peak for the power you are making, I would be comfortable flying it LOP. Lots of things to consider, but the manufacturer saying "don't do it" alone may just be a leftover old-wives-tale from the old days. We know better today.
Regards,
Martin
Instrumented properly, almost any normally aspirated, injected engine can be operated LOP given the equalization of intake charge across all cylinders. Cool with fuel or cool with air. Recall the fuel dilution in the oil is because the engine is running ROP and most likely in the worst operating regiment possible without combusting all the fuel. Washes down cylinder walls as well accelerating wear.
I'm kind of a car gear head I love automotive engines but what I'm really interested in is knowing why aircraft craft engine seize up more often than automobile engines even after using what I would consider the best oil
money could buy..
Aircraft engines are fairly low compression compared to automotive engines and they use dual ignition plus low lead fuel 100 octane and run at a fairly low rpm continuous..
Could I be wrong as outsider not understanding how aircraft engines are put together, plus as a side note why aircraft engines so expensive I don't understand why they cost so much.
I think I can answer the cost part of your question, Rafael. It's driven by the very low volume, and by the outrageous liability claims when something does go wrong.
Regarding "seizing up more often"... I don't know if they really do. Most of the in-flight engine failures happen due to... ready for this? fuel exhaustion! Yes, pilots run out of fuel in flight - that is the number one reason for power-off landings.
Regards,
Martin
@@martinpauly
Thanks for your reply,
I just can't imagine flying a plane without being certain there enough fuel ..
Well I'm glad the insurance companies haven't decided driving a car is more risky than flying a plane.
Any after-recording comments or thoughts about how (future) G100UL might impact the contamination problems?
My Cadillac sent me an Email.......It wants an Oil Change!
Dam that helicopter 🚁 interpretations😅
As you know doubt saw what happened to MOBIL1 SID TO PISTON ENGINED AIRCRAFT ENGINES, they said THEY did not know they needed ASH, & something else, so is NOT CERTIFIED for piston engined aircraft, just by chance I did some service work @ EXXON RESEARCH IN LINDEN NJ, BEFORE THE synthetics were out , cheers 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
What's the difference between airplane noise and helicopter noise?
Helicopters don't go away.
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Can I use this stuff in my car that gets little use ? Located in Portland Oregon clime ?
Camguard makes a product for automotive, diesel, air cooled (think small lawn mower, snowblower) and, of course, aircraft engines.
I had a long and somewhat heated discussion with this guy at Oshkosh. Pretty smart guy but very opinionated and not always accurate. Either way love the channel Martin
Sorry find it hard to believe synthetics wouldn't work in aircraft engine
Yet ExxonMobil, Shell and Phillips 66, three companies with a combined half a trillion in annual revenues don't sell synthetic oil for avgas piston engines. Maybe you should let them know you find it hard to believe.
This was not very informative. He is talking about engine oil design for engines from the 1930's. It's 2022, all good modern aircraft engines are liquid cooled. For a professional he barely spoke of zinc. Didn't mention boron, sulphated ash, he is just promoting his additive package which all good oils have from factory.