Only a Perfect Man Could Make Atonement for Mankind

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  • Опубликовано: 18 янв 2025

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  • @MichaelTheophilus906
    @MichaelTheophilus906 5 месяцев назад

    John 8.40

  • @westongrayguitar
    @westongrayguitar 5 месяцев назад

    Right! Well said.

  • @eddieyoung2104
    @eddieyoung2104 5 месяцев назад

    That Romans 5:19 quote is very straight to the point on this. And it wouldn't make sense to change it to 'by God's obedience many will be made righteous'. That would just sound ridiculous, as if he needed to be obedient to himself. The Trinitarian, of course, wouldn't describe it in these terms, but their belief does seem to imply it. I guess Trinity doctrine would teach that God in the form of a man became obedient. And because only God can be perfect, then only God could be that man who offered himself. However, though it's true that men cannot be perfect, this doesn't take into account that Jesus had the spirit without measure, and by this spirit power the Father was dwelling in him and doing the works. The son of man who God made strong for himself (Ps 80:17).

    • @LoveAndLiberty02
      @LoveAndLiberty02  5 месяцев назад +1

      Right. God did not obey God unto death. God doesn't obey anyone, and God can't die!

  • @DarikStone
    @DarikStone 5 месяцев назад

    I did not tell you to keep your rudness because you disagreed, I told you to hold it because you were infact rude, when I tried to help correct your misunderstanding of the scripture you quoted.
    We either have sin, or we do not.
    We either serve unrighteousness,
    or we do not.
    If we have sin, we do not get into heaven.
    If we have sin, we go to hell.
    We cannot enter heaven with any amount of sin, and if we have any amount of sin, we are not saved: therefore;
    For God to even indwell in your body, you must be saved, and if you are saved, for God to dwell in you, your flesh must be crucified (put to death with Christ) meaning, you must believe that he died for your sins, and that you are forgiven of them, for him to forgive them and kill your flesh, for God to allow Himself to indwell in you; meaning: God will not indwell a vessel that has sin and is unholy. So if you do not believe, God is not in you. No matter what you oppositionally say about it; God is Holy and sovereign.
    So killing the flesh to have rebirth is number one, in getting to heaven.
    Number 2 is that if God cannot idwell sinful flesh, than neither can sinful flesh indwell Holy Heaven, meaning: your spirit must be Holy, (having the spirit of God) and upon receiving non sinful spirit the next step is having no sin in the flesh.
    So your flesh needs to be temporarily killed for now on earth, but it is only spiritually void of sin until the redemption of the receiving of your Glorified body, which is a promise of God for those who believed, which will be sinless flesh that can dwell in Heaven. Though your flesh on earth is temporally void of sin, it's still corrupt and cannot come to heaven, that is the reasoning.
    If you don't believe, God is not in you, and your flesh is alive and your spirit dead, meaning God sees all of your sins the flesh commits on earth, He has not turned his face from it, nor forgotten it; You aren't forgiven for anything.
    So to be dead in the flesh, is to be alive in Christ.
    So Paul was not talking about serving the flesh as a matter of sinning, he was regarding serving unrighteousness (being in unbelief of the gospel) to being the servant of the devil, and sinning unto death.
    In other words [blaspheming the Holy Ghost]. Taking unbelief to your grave.
    Paul was not preaching about sins of the flesh, because Paul does not believe that people whom are saved have sin.
    Rather: the only sin, is to not believe Paul's Gospel by Grace through faith; and you cannot believe by Grace, if you deny God's Grace in unfaithfuness of the truth of the gospel. (Everything I've just told you)
    Because you don't believe God has given Grace to you, for remission of your sins through faith in it.
    Something you don't deserve (Grace).
    Everything that you have sent me only further spiritually concludes that you are not saved. I do not care about men who write books about the Bible for filthy lucre that are not saved, their very own selves;
    I care about the men who were witnesses to Christ, who wrote the truth, for every man to believe, whom themselves were saved according the the only truth that they preached.
    You have 2 options:
    You can believe and be freed from sin, and the bondage of the flesh thereof, have eternal everlasting life, and be redeemed;
    or you can deny God's truth of His son, and keep reading from false testimonials of writers of religious unfaithfuness (the witness of men) and (serving those whom are the servants of unrighteousness)
    And sin unto death.
    Where there is Law, there is not Grace, and where there is not Grace ,there is sin, and where there is sin, there is unbelief. (Death)
    Those that did not get into the kingdom were unsaved, They were people who obeyed unrighteousness, and disobeyed righteousness.
    Disobeyed the will of the Father (which was to believe and be saved)
    They put faith in their works, and deeds, (which was not the will of the Father). They had unbelief and were never forgiven [self decieved]
    Works don't determine getting into heaven at all.