Love watching a master professional diesel professor tuning a vintage Detroit diesel. Watching you is like watching a piano tuner tuning a Steinway. Scott you’re the best ever sir!!
@@heartland96a Looks like oil but he was running it pretty hard up the hill and could have been excess built up in the air boxes that it purged. Just my guess. Maybe Scott can elaborate more. I hate to see what ours does the first time on the road after setting 50 years.
I was a mechanic all my life, never got to work on a bus. Retired as an industrial hydraulics man after q6 yrs with the company. Although it wasn't my field I did get to work on a 453 I think it was. It was an old motor bought from a salvage supplier, boys in the shop rebuilt it but did not run it or test it. Used it to power a Skaggit 3 drum waterfall winch, old friction drive unit. Took me a bit but It became a purring good little detroit motor, I ended up getting consistant 32,000 lb pulls on a bare drum. Well with in spec.... I did get to set the rack on a 671V also. It powered a group of hydraulic pumps, self contained hydraulic power unit. Detroit is used a lot in the offshore oil industry....I think the 671 is most popular as a service motor as they use alot of them....
@@billmoran3812 I started out working on lawn mowers and moved up to tractors, cars, etc. Always said if its put together with bolts, I can fix it, lol. Ended my ladt 16 years as an industrial hydraulics 'tech', just another title, lol... I built machinery for the offshore oil/gas industry. Enjoyed the work immensley but 9/2/14, the doctors said lung cancer and it was on. They gave me 'about 90 days', that was 6 years ago, beat the cancer and as of 2 months back still cancer free. The chemo and radiation did a number on me. No longer able to work, just not the guy I used to be. Not 100% and probably never will be but I'm alive and for that I'm very thankful. My life was very rewarding as a mechanic. Loved the hydraulic work the most.
Thank you for helping to keep these old rides on the road. Once their gone, there gone for good, this is a heritage of our grandparents. I like Seeing old iron out there on the road. It's good to find people that still have the art to work on them. I truly enjoy your videos. My 1st was the MCI 1968, I have a previous 1988 now 8V92 .😁😎🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Man, does that sound bring back memories! Running the rack and adjusting the governor. Initially spooked when the oil pressure on my first 6v53 at idle was 7 pounds, but it ran that way for 10 years 🥰🏴☠️😎
I love how so many of these old Detroits are still going strong, they just need some love from time to time to keep them that way. If my retirement plans pan out in the next 5-10 years I plan on doing an RV conversion on one of these old buses and begin touring the country. I'll make sure to have $3000-$5000 set aside yearly for maintenance. Thank you for all of these wonderful videos showing us how to do it and maybe I'll get lucky to have my bus looked at by the Amazing monkey one day. Wishing you safety and good health!
hello scott great job on fixing the 1947 silversides bus with detroit diesel 671 governor/fuel linkage issues and loose fly wheel bearing and the more that you did and wow was there ever a doubt the the silversides would make it up that long driveway hill i say never ever just like lenny and larry did wow what a sight let me tell ya great video so thankyou scott until next video i say so long for now from Randy from ontario,canada take care p.s stay safe out there and i bet your guest the owner of this beautiful silversides was very happy you fixed their bus alot.
Was on vacation in San Francisco back in 75 and was told by a couple of local streetcar buffs about a hill route that normal operation was the driver would start up the residential hill until the bus stopped then apply the brakes open both doors and shout everybody out! And while all the passengers slogged up the hill the bus was alongside at full throttle creeping up the hill at about 2- 3 mph. One morning all the passengers got up ready to disembark but the bus didn't stop! The passengers started yelling at the driver who simply smiled And asked, hear a diesel? They hadn't noticed the bus had gone to trolleybus over the weekend. Same horsepower 250 but 600 volt D.C. Which could more than double the horsepower going up the hill with a full load of passengers. The passengers finally realized the days of climbing the hill were over and could enjoy the ride up the hill.
Man.. that is cool.. glad you got it tuned up and safer for the rest of the trip. Every time I see another bus go up that hill I want to be there.. I am trying to figure out a plan to get back up there again soon..
I'm so happy to see you back to work on buses again, and getting a steady flow of projects! Hopefully this is helping you guys to move forward on the property. It's crazy just how many rain storms you've gotten this Summer, but I'm glad that you've also gotten some nice days to work too. Thanks for another great video!
Hey Scott Kevin here from Australia. What a sight Sage Coach coming out from the trees under full throttle. Anyhoo thankyou so much for sharing stay safe and stay well. ✌ Peace guys. 🌻
These old buses are cool. I dont have a detroit but I have a converted 1990 chevy school bus. It has permanently parked 3 years ago and we have built a building around it at our campground we bought into. 17 members in there and we all go a huge lot. Its a 15min ride up a dirt road in a 4x4 to get to it. We got sewer and a great power grid. Im working on my channel but been busy with home repairs this year. I update soon.
Those trees will filter the smoke, lol. I like the governor/fuel linkage and 1940's air steering in particular here. Reminds me of not-bus things I fix.
Scott, you need to ask him what weight oil he is using, that it appeared around the rockers so fast, and his oil pressure statements lead me to believe that it might be lighter than straight 40.
You are a better mechanic than a guy used to work with he went to school to be a mechanic and the biggest part of stuff he has sent it somewhere else get it fixed he can't even fix it and he went to school to be a mechanic and it's time to start somewhere else get it back
There used to be a process of knurling the inside diameter of bushings to tighten them up on the shaft by raising some of the material. It be a trick to use when a bushing is not available or shaft cant be replaced.
The oil comment reminds me of the 60’s when the state of North Carolina used to spay oil on dirt roads to keep the dust down, those dirt roads were packed down like asphalt
I used to haul concert tours. I worked with drivers from Florida Custom Coach, Sheridan, Curley Jones, and Senator's. There was some guy, I think in Okie City, who was a walking anthology of dinosaur coach parts. He even knew where some hidden relays and circuit breakers were. I preferred the trucks, the freight doesn't talk back.
HOLA escuche ese hermoso motor y senti una gran emocion yo tenia uno igual y cuando me fallaba era 1. altura de los inyectores 2 aire en la linea del diesel 3 calibracion de la barra de cremalleras 4 calibracion del gobernador thats all , I love thise engine. have a nice day ...
...yeah, a wheel bearing that loose could be especially bad on this type of vehicle (larger, heavier); glad that issue was caught before it got any worse
Here are a few tips on Airo-Matic Steering: The assist cylinder needs to be mounted and adjusted so the center line is parallel to the tie rod as much as possible. It should never roll the tie rod thru its travel range. The control valve should have equal travel or actuation movement from left center/right center and if the steering linkage is not against the stop, the valve should be able to spring to the center position. When replacing those lines, use 250 psi rated push-lock hose. Don't waste your money on custom fitted hose. Its not necessary.
I have been thinking about a work site power solution for you. Make up a small electrical panel with a short plug that will plug into rv plug. You could run a couple of boxes with plugs.
Hey im looking at a 1970s gm buffalo bus the guy only wants 400 for it but its rough hasn't run in a while, the suspension is missing some parts and its had a half ass RV conversion done on it. The bus has a 8v71 i believe, are those bad buses to resurrect and where can you find parts for it?
A single-ended cylinder will always expand with more Force than it can retract we see this with hydraulic cylinders that's why it's easier to steer one way than the other
I noticed when he went back down the hill from the top of the hill he had it in neutral or so it sounded. When I was taught to drive truck I was told countless times to never do that as you lose the braking power of the engine plus it would pump air faster due to the higher engine rpm otherwise he might find himself in a bad situation not enough air pressure and unable to get the transmission in a lower gear. I've seen many an 18 wheeler off the road from that precise cause crashed usually with the driver deceased. Not worth it.
Is that the second bus you have done a video on with that custom cartoon map in the back bedroom? I could of sworn you showed one in the last 6 months like that. Was it the one with the western motif?
How about drive to Tennessee and help him.. I am sure he would appreciate the help! He does not need help with making a list of projects.. believe me he has plenty!
Hey Scott is there a need for "drop in" wiring harnesses for these old buses almost every bus ive seen you work on the wiring is really jenky most of the time and i guess if its not broke dont fix it it just looks bad
I mentioned this a long time ago when I saw the spaghetti hanging off Lenny's engine. . The amount of dodgy wiring i repair on vintage cars is amazing and it all means they are "breakdowns or fires waiting to happen". Tidying up wiring can be satisfying and the rewards are peace of mind when a long way from home.
@@BusGreaseMonkey I believe that those were called "Airmatic". The installation was rather a bit of a "Bodge". Those hoses are a disaster looking for a place to happen. 'Axe
Love watching a master professional diesel professor tuning a vintage Detroit diesel. Watching you is like watching a piano tuner tuning a Steinway. Scott you’re the best ever sir!!
No matter how good my bus seems like it's running, having Scott go through my bus is the best thing I can do.
It's a runner.Went up the hill like a champ.
Sage is this a new used moter or the same one that was in it when Tyler was helping you before? Did you sell it?
@@jimmyturner3715 Go to "Texas Bus Rescue" we replaced the blower.
Was the blower the cause of the oil trail going up the hill?
Looks like that was a nail in the rack arm. Sage Coach is just marking his territory. Glad to hear it running better. Thanks for the video!!
Nail is what I thought too. Not hardened at all
@@BusGreaseMonkey Maybe a "field expedient" repair that became permanent?
@@jim874 Maybe when the control rod got broken and welded too. That may be part of the issue if it wasn't the correct length anymore
That is a lot of fluid ! What was it ?
@@heartland96a Looks like oil but he was running it pretty hard up the hill and could have been excess built up in the air boxes that it purged. Just my guess. Maybe Scott can elaborate more. I hate to see what ours does the first time on the road after setting 50 years.
I was a mechanic all my life, never got to work on a bus. Retired as an industrial hydraulics man after q6 yrs with the company. Although it wasn't my field I did get to work on a 453 I think it was. It was an old motor bought from a salvage supplier, boys in the shop rebuilt it but did not run it or test it. Used it to power a Skaggit 3 drum waterfall winch, old friction drive unit. Took me a bit but It became a purring good little detroit motor, I ended up getting consistant 32,000 lb pulls on a bare drum. Well with in spec.... I did get to set the rack on a 671V also. It powered a group of hydraulic pumps, self contained hydraulic power unit. Detroit is used a lot in the offshore oil industry....I think the 671 is most popular as a service motor as they use alot of them....
james moore I’ve never worked on a bus either, but I’ve converted several bus engines (old look transit buses) to marine engines.
@@billmoran3812 I started out working on lawn mowers and moved up to tractors, cars, etc. Always said if its put together with bolts, I can fix it, lol. Ended my ladt 16 years as an industrial hydraulics 'tech', just another title, lol... I built machinery for the offshore oil/gas industry. Enjoyed the work immensley but 9/2/14, the doctors said lung cancer and it was on. They gave me 'about 90 days', that was 6 years ago, beat the cancer and as of 2 months back still cancer free. The chemo and radiation did a number on me. No longer able to work, just not the guy I used to be. Not 100% and probably never will be but I'm alive and for that I'm very thankful. My life was very rewarding as a mechanic. Loved the hydraulic work the most.
Thank you for helping to keep these old rides on the road. Once their gone, there gone for good, this is a heritage of our grandparents. I like Seeing old iron out there on the road. It's good to find people that still have the art to work on them. I truly enjoy your videos. My 1st was the MCI 1968, I have a previous 1988 now 8V92 .😁😎🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Sage had her tach'd up.
I would say Sage has set the new time record for going up the hill .
Haha I was driving. :)
In a cloud of dust, with a streak of oil, and a hearty “Hi Ho Silver!”
@@notajp you forgot "away"
Man, does that sound bring back memories! Running the rack and adjusting the governor. Initially spooked when the oil pressure on my first 6v53 at idle was 7 pounds, but it ran that way for 10 years 🥰🏴☠️😎
I love how so many of these old Detroits are still going strong, they just need some love from time to time to keep them that way. If my retirement plans pan out in the next 5-10 years I plan on doing an RV conversion on one of these old buses and begin touring the country. I'll make sure to have $3000-$5000 set aside yearly for maintenance. Thank you for all of these wonderful videos showing us how to do it and maybe I'll get lucky to have my bus looked at by the Amazing monkey one day. Wishing you safety and good health!
Wide open, charging the hill, now that is a sound, can't wait for the next Detroit to climb the hill.
hello scott great job on fixing the 1947 silversides bus with detroit diesel 671 governor/fuel linkage issues and loose fly wheel bearing and the more that you did and wow was there ever a doubt the the silversides would make it up that long driveway hill i say never ever just like lenny and larry did wow what a sight let me tell ya great video so thankyou scott until next video i say so long for now from Randy from ontario,canada take care p.s stay safe out there and i bet your guest the owner of this beautiful silversides was very happy you fixed their bus alot.
two brother side by side look great
Was on vacation in San Francisco back in 75 and was told by a couple of local streetcar buffs about a hill route that normal operation was the driver would start up the residential hill until the bus stopped then apply the brakes open both doors and shout everybody out! And while all the passengers slogged up the hill the bus was alongside at full throttle creeping up the hill at about 2- 3 mph. One morning all the passengers got up ready to disembark but the bus didn't stop! The passengers started yelling at the driver who simply smiled And asked, hear a diesel? They hadn't noticed the bus had gone to trolleybus over the weekend. Same horsepower 250 but 600 volt D.C. Which could more than double the horsepower going up the hill with a full load of passengers. The passengers finally realized the days of climbing the hill were over and could enjoy the ride up the hill.
I am glad you provided a bit of the earlier video to provide context for the repairs and adjustments being made in this video.
Glad to see these guys made to your place🇨🇦
Yes youtube auto generated captions that detroit driving away was "[Music]"
I checked and mine said music and applause.
@Videx Sicarii Maybe the server machine was once part of a Detroit.
Man.. that is cool.. glad you got it tuned up and safer for the rest of the trip. Every time I see another bus go up that hill I want to be there.. I am trying to figure out a plan to get back up there again soon..
I'm so happy to see you back to work on buses again, and getting a steady flow of projects! Hopefully this is helping you guys to move forward on the property. It's crazy just how many rain storms you've gotten this Summer, but I'm glad that you've also gotten some nice days to work too. Thanks for another great video!
That thing is a beaut. Will look really sharp painted and polished
Hey Scott Kevin here from Australia.
What a sight Sage Coach coming out from the trees under full throttle.
Anyhoo thankyou so much for sharing stay safe and stay well.
✌ Peace guys. 🌻
Man I love the sound of Detroit diesels!
didn't know I could get so into these engines and buses amazing work
Great job Scott....I will hopefully come visit you someday for some fine tuning and ideas for our bus once we get it on the road...
These old buses are cool. I dont have a detroit but I have a converted 1990 chevy school bus. It has permanently parked 3 years ago and we have built a building around it at our campground we bought into. 17 members in there and we all go a huge lot. Its a 15min ride up a dirt road in a 4x4 to get to it. We got sewer and a great power grid. Im working on my channel but been busy with home repairs this year. I update soon.
"You picked a fine time to leave me loose wheel".
groan
Those trees will filter the smoke, lol. I like the governor/fuel linkage and 1940's air steering in particular here. Reminds me of not-bus things I fix.
Wow.... these beauties needs to be fully restored in their original glory.
I love that Detroit rattle when it throttles up
You need to issue a special certificate for buses that have climbed the hill!
There so should be a "Bus Monkey Hill Test Certificate"
Scott, you need to ask him what weight oil he is using, that it appeared around the rockers so fast, and his oil pressure statements lead me to believe that it might be lighter than straight 40.
Straight 40. CF2
The Texas rescue on the hill - worth waiting for the big smile you put on my face!
Those are such nice looking buses.
16:38 Detroit Diesels don't leak oil... they just like to mark their territory.
WOW! That Governor return spring is so IMPRESSIVE!
The guy though the old starter was good. Lol. Right after the new starter was put in, it cranked like crazy.
You are a better mechanic than a guy used to work with he went to school to be a mechanic and the biggest part of stuff he has sent it somewhere else get it fixed he can't even fix it and he went to school to be a mechanic and it's time to start somewhere else get it back
You should have a top gear style bus up our hill time challenge board. Keep up the great work and content.
There used to be a process of knurling the inside diameter of bushings to tighten them up on the shaft by raising some of the material. It be a trick to use when a bushing is not available or shaft cant be replaced.
The oil comment reminds me of the 60’s when the state of North Carolina used to spay oil on dirt roads to keep the dust down, those dirt roads were packed down like asphalt
I used to haul concert tours. I worked with drivers from Florida Custom Coach, Sheridan, Curley Jones, and Senator's. There was some guy, I think in Okie City, who was a walking anthology of dinosaur coach parts. He even knew where some hidden relays and circuit breakers were. I preferred the trucks, the freight doesn't talk back.
HOLA escuche ese hermoso motor y senti una gran emocion yo tenia uno igual y cuando me fallaba era 1. altura de los inyectores 2 aire en la linea del diesel 3 calibracion de la barra de cremalleras 4 calibracion del gobernador thats all , I love thise engine. have a nice day ...
Very interesting.......thank you for sharing....
The bus whisperer...
...yeah, a wheel bearing that loose could be especially bad on this type of vehicle (larger, heavier); glad that issue was caught before it got any worse
Holy cow! The power steering uses air. I have never seen that before.
Man that was cool when he went up the hill
Runs well now, nice work.:)
Here are a few tips on Airo-Matic Steering: The assist cylinder needs to be mounted and adjusted so the center line is parallel to the tie rod as much as possible. It should never roll the tie rod thru its travel range.
The control valve should have equal travel or actuation movement from left center/right center and if the steering linkage is not against the stop, the valve should be able to spring to the center position.
When replacing those lines, use 250 psi rated push-lock hose. Don't waste your money on custom fitted hose. Its not necessary.
The repair, set up and parts manuals are available on the Military Technical manual for the M35A2 Deuce and a half. It was a add on some trucks got.
I have been thinking about a work site power solution for you. Make up a small electrical panel with a short plug that will plug into rv plug. You could run a couple of boxes with plugs.
Got up that hill way quicker than the 7 cylinder scenic cruiser (I know there’s a massive weight difference) sounded pretty sweet though
Congratulations very good
Man I need to get me a bus with some Detroit power. Would be a fun rv conversion.
Who are you, magic bus guy
I'm in the UK and I love it 😎
That ole Sage is a "Hoot"!
After plodding up and down that mountain , you should be able to deliver mail for the city of San Francisco!
Lovely sound
Sounds a lot better than it did - nice tuneup. Smoking like a son of a gun, and what is with that oil pouring out?
Tomorrow’s video. Stay tuned
@@BusGreaseMonkey COOL !
That time showing sagcoach start down hill showers the real steep of the hill
It’s a steep one ;)
Man he was ripping up the hill!
Hey im looking at a 1970s gm buffalo bus the guy only wants 400 for it but its rough hasn't run in a while, the suspension is missing some parts and its had a half ass RV conversion done on it. The bus has a 8v71 i believe, are those bad buses to resurrect and where can you find parts for it?
Sage driving it like he stole it. What do the neighbors think of your Detroit diesel test track?
The lenses is not as grease as the drive way
Was there any oil left in the engine after the hill climb 👍👍
Sage's bus took that hill, like Grant took Richmond!
A single-ended cylinder will always expand with more Force than it can retract we see this with hydraulic cylinders that's why it's easier to steer one way than the other
Im surprised at how many outside adjustments and tightenings can be done on these engines
I am wondering about the people with these Bus's that do not have safety checks.
65 mph down the highway
Wow it charged up that hill with power to spare! Looks like it's had fuel work done with the little bit of smoke under full throttle?
I noticed when he went back down the hill from the top of the hill he had it in neutral or so it sounded. When I was taught to drive truck I was told countless times to never do that as you lose the braking power of the engine plus it would pump air faster due to the higher engine rpm otherwise he might find himself in a bad situation not enough air pressure and unable to get the transmission in a lower gear. I've seen many an 18 wheeler off the road from that precise cause crashed usually with the driver deceased. Not worth it.
It was in 1st. Not neutral and it was in gear
Is that the second bus you have done a video on with that custom cartoon map in the back bedroom? I could of sworn you showed one in the last 6 months like that. Was it the one with the western motif?
Yes that’s the 4104 with the propped up engine door from our theme song
മലയാളി കാണുന്നുണ്ടോ🇮🇳
I think Lenny needs brake lights like those.
Ooh, metal rattle knock at 20:47, it sounds like something engaged?
the camera doesn't show the grade very well. is that a 20 degree incline?
Ate that hill up
Yes it did! And marked his territory
You need to build a nice big circle driveway
Don’t start with the “you needs”
@@BusGreaseMonkey Ha!
Ok, how about this way? A big circle drive would really be a great improvement on the property.
How about drive to Tennessee and help him.. I am sure he would appreciate the help! He does not need help with making a list of projects.. believe me he has plenty!
@@GinosGarageUSA if I could I would, love running a chainsaw. Golly gee, guys it was just a suggestion. Sorry
Muito bom..... Estou vendo do Brasil...!
Cool Scott.
That was awesome!!! 👍😂
Nice buses
Do you normally set the idle a little higher or did you leave it low on purpose for this one?
Pikes Peak for Buses
Was that the compressor rattling drumsticks going down the hill at the end?
Yes the air compressors clank
Sou do Brasil. Sou apaixonado por ônibus.
Interessante o motor transversal
So,what was the source of the ‘blood’ trail??
Future snapper reef
Hey Scott is there a need for "drop in" wiring harnesses for these old buses almost every bus ive seen you work on the wiring is really jenky most of the time and i guess if its not broke dont fix it it just looks bad
I mentioned this a long time ago when I saw the spaghetti hanging off Lenny's engine. . The amount of dodgy wiring i repair on vintage cars is amazing and it all means they are "breakdowns or fires waiting to happen". Tidying up wiring can be satisfying and the rewards are peace of mind when a long way from home.
sound is like all new leayland viking
6:03 I am assuming that scar is from being a mechanic
Put some lucuseoil in it it will bring the oil press up 5 10 pounds plus good for the engine
Is the steering air assist?
Yea
And what is that red crap on the engine? Don't they know its a Detroit?!
@@BusGreaseMonkey I believe that those were called "Airmatic". The installation was rather a bit of a "Bodge". Those hoses are a disaster looking for a place to happen. 'Axe
@@jeremyd9826 the engine came out of an International truck they're painted red
well thats 1 way to change your oil i suppose
Good condition not rusty
Why would you let the canaben Drive
What was the streak of oil from ?
A detroit diesel ;) watch tomorrow’s video
@@BusGreaseMonkey Marking it's territory! 'Axe
Smmmmmokey up the hill
And a touch leaky...
Replace bearing on governor to fix hunting on engine
I see a doraemon face at back of the bus😄
Hay plata ahí.. Cuanto por ese bus... 🚃🎧💲💰💲💰💵💵💼
That oil on the road"ll help keep the dust down...lol
I want a bus.
As long as you have, space, time, and money.
Lindo el sonido de ese motor