A Conversation with Yuval Noah Harari (Episode
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- Опубликовано: 3 июн 2020
- In this episode of the podcast Sam Harris speaks with Yuval Noah Harari about the Covid-19 pandemic and its future implications.
They discuss:
- Failures of global leadership
- Widespread distrust of institutions
- Benefits of nationalism and its current unraveling in the U.S.
- Politics as a way of reconciling competing desires
- Consequences of misinformation
- Enduring respect for science
- Future of surveillance
- The changing role of religion
- and other topics
Yuval Noah Harari has a PhD in History from the University of Oxford and lectures at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, specializing in world history. His books have been translated into 50+ languages, with 12+ million copies sold worldwide. Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind looked deep into our past, Homo Deus: A Brief History of Tomorrow considered far-future scenarios, and 21 Lessons for the 21st Century focuses on the biggest questions of the present moment.
Released: May 01, 2020
Website: www.ynharari.com/
Twitter: @harari_yuval
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Two of my most favourite intellectual authors of the modern age - lovely.
Shut up weeb
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@@BattousaiHBr lol
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"The real expertise of religious leaders is finding excuses" lmao
This sort of insight I why I enjoy reading his books. He is completely correct, and it seems obvious when he says it, but I never heard that before. He is such an original thinker, which is rare to find.
I think the real idea is to attach some level of confidence to events outside of human control. In the very least they aren't forgotten about. Rain is not to be taken for granted.
Heard your "old" podcast just lately, great to have Yuval back on the show! Love his books as i love yours, Sam!
I admire the financial independence of people, But you can live better if you work a little more. After watching this I think there are people out there, on the extreme, who plan to die early just to be able to retire early. To each their own but to me, retirement isn't just about not having to work, it's about having the freedom to do whatever you might reasonably want, such as travel, buying things, enjoying life, etc. I don't think I could retire with less than $3m in income-generating investments, maybe $2m at the very minimum. I plan to work until I'm at least 45
Nobody knows anything, you need to create your own process, manage risk and stick to the plan, through thick or thin while also continuously learning from mistakes and improving
@@BrunoLuke Who’s the person guiding you
@@BrunoLuke Thank you, I just checked her out and I have sent her an email. I hope she gets back to me soon.
@@MarcelPhilips This is precisely the right information and I hope it motivates so many. To win big, you just need to think Big. Leading Successful investors didn’t just get rich doing what others did but took their time investing despite all odds to get to the top. Working on my path towards financial independence, I realized that; “the greater the risk, the more the rewards”. Just as personal advice to anyone who wishes to invest, I recommend having a Personal financial planner too.
Please get Yuval Noah Harari on the Joe Rogan Experiences. Joe has read his books.
Viggo Smiles ok I’ll do my best
@@bretellis thanks bro
Joe can try persuading Sam to try dmt for meditative purposes
He might be famous, not so intelligent though.
Who are you talking about?
Big Respect for both Sam and Yuval from Pakistan
😍
Outstanding conversation, thank you guys
I was waiting for a podcast with Yuval! So exciting
I am always in awe of Sam Harris, but now I can really see the genius of Yuval with the two of them speaking together. Yuval is so lucid and intelligent, he seems to even outshine Sam. I'd like to buy one of Yuval's books.
Buy all of them!
Do a favour on you..buy all his books at least.
No one outshines Sam Harris..
Lucky us to get to listen to such a feast.
Great podcast!
Officially, you're one of my favorite RUclipsrs out here!
Why aren't any of these recent uploads showing up in my subscriber feed?? Interesting.
I didn't see this one there either. I'm guessing it's because Sam has pledged to make all podcasts related to the pandemic freely available in their full form.
Sam you are the best!!
Brilliant for sure
Sam - big fan of you, your content, and your outlook and demeanor. If you don't mind a suggestion: I often see Making Sense content come up in my RUclips feed, but i sometimes find myself less than enticed to click a video if I don't happen to be familiar with your guest. A brief note about the subject of the conversation in the title might draw in more viewers like myself! Just a bit of feedback for you. Thanks and keep doing what you're doing. 👍👍
He does give a brief introduction of the guest in the description and there is not enough room in the title for all the subjects, so he actually lists them for you in the description; look for them these, instead.
16:06 - everyone needs to understand the gravity of this.
Is there anywhere I can get this music playing for a couple of hours?
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@@naiitabolsen819 Thank you!
Thanks .
I know this will probably get lost in the comments, but I love each and every one of you that reads this comment. Why? Well, not because you're black, not because you're white, not because you're gay, not because you're straight, not because you are young, not because you're old, not because you're poor, not because you're rich, not because you're an atheist, not because you're a theist, not because you're liberal, not because you're conservative. I love you because you are so much more than any of those things, I love you because you are YOU, I love you because you are my brother/sister, I love you because of our shared humanity. Love is what we need right now, more than ever. I hope you have a great day! ❤
Thank you for this. It wasnt lost. It found someone who needed to see it. I will pass this message on.🌎
Get him back on for this month's epidemic!
love that and insights....good conversations!
We need stuff like coworking spaces with mentors for students of different professions to keep the social dimension of learning and developing a professional identity but move all the learning materials online in all possible formats done by the best lecturers, writers and speakers the world can produce, the idea of having people speaking the same lectures over and over again with different students in the room year after year doesn't make any sense in the 21. century.
Very good ! very good 😌 this is very encouraging
46:55 Does anyone know the title of the film he is referring to here~? The one they both think was a great film~? I couldn't make it out.
The Lives of Others by Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck
Thanks!
So many people are mad when Sam criticizes the dear leader, Trump. FYI, there are countries where criticism against your leader is frowned upon or even illegal. Maybe Trump and his defenders will be more comfortable there? Criticizing and questioning your leader is essential and should be encouraged.
That was not the tune being played during BO’s tenure.
@@solvitasperambulatorum8624 BO was and still is being criticized for what he did and didn't do and that's fine but now there is a group of people surrounding Trump that won't allow any criticism at all and if you even try they call you a 'never-Trumper' or some nonsense like that. It really is an interesting thing to watch. I don't think this is healthy for the discourse.
@@solvitasperambulatorum8624 What about "whataboutism"?
It's not that people are upset that he criticizes Trump, it's that his criticism of Trump is just a way to make you look the other way and not recognise that you live in a capitalist system that does perfectly well under Trump. The sociopathic elite are doing just peachy.
Criticism is one thing. Sticking Trumps face up everywhere for Two Minutes Hate like Emmanuel Goldstein is a whole other thing. We had to put up with that shite for four blinking years and I am talking about here in Ireland. It must have been bloody unbearable to be on the receiving end of that in America.
People need to be held responsible for their actions/words. Facebook, Twitter etc should be governed by the same rules as newspapers.
Dear Sam Harris , I really like your ideas how science can answer moral values in our society. If you make this podcast in video where we can watch both speakers it will be very good and your followers will increase rapidly I believe. Look at Jordan peterson where his videos aren't only audios like you and he have 2 million subscribers in youtube. Good luck.
Couple of hours, is that it.. I choose 24/7 instead..
What did he (Yuval) say in the 01:00 .... May be i heard wrongly
A little sanity during a week of complete lunacy. Thanks.
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@@peterburtscher6467 no idea what that Q means.
I would have liked it if Sam had challenged Yuval on some stuff.
First of all, it seems like the Covid epidemic showed the weakness of globalism and the usefulness of nationalism, not the other way around. Also, the "patriotic vaccine" was as good of an example for a strawman that i can think of.
Secondly, I would have liked Yuval to go into the shift that he described of people getting away from learned helplessness and determinism towards a tendency of thinking everything is die to human intervention. Because that line of thinking is what brought us the "every inequality is due to discrimination" logic... I'd love for them both to talk about that.
Yuval would never see this as he is blind to his desires.
Pretty strong support here for Eric Weinstens idea that the protests aren’t really about race at all- it was just the trigger.. the revolution has been brewing for some time
The ideas aren't scientifically supported, but the protests are very much racially motivated. There is no revolution.
why did it take 35 days to release this in times like these when audio editing is the only job?
I found out the meaning of life after I died 😆
Before the pandemic covid-19 started to affect people, they were busy talking about politics about society, about communalism, and many other issues were addressed, but not the biological body that each one of us possesses.
But now we have started to talk about our immune system, and the need to strengthen our body. Now we have started to understand herbs and the self healing quality of our body.
Now we have started to to understand the divine intervention and blessings that work for our body, and mind but we do not let it take place because our own psychological, mental, spiritual and emotional toxicity.
So among the several pros that were brought into our lives along with the covid-19 situation, one is that we have started to take care of our body and putting in efforts to know how it functions.
Thankfully we have drifted from many undesirable topics and moved towards our own emotional, psychological, and biological betterment.
Mansi Arora (mona) from india
Ed Bernays the original human hacker
Was wondering if Sam has seen James Corbett's (from the corbettreport) doc on 911 & how it really wasn't about religion, but money & who made it that day🤨
Dear Sam: How about Yuval Noah Harari for "Conversations" on "Waking Up App? Then, you can talk about meditation at length!
Don't really agree with the online education comment. I think you could actually expand community online and share ideas way beyond the people you meet in classes.
You will always get the dirty work
One man's sense is another man's nonsense.
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Last Time you didnt know yuval was a meditator and he got disapointed xD
Yes, let Nationalism rise
Yes, coz throughout history that has always ended well haha.
(Definition of insanity = Doing the same thing over and over again and always expecting a different result)
Sam, Regarding Brexit, economics is a lesser consideration than the health of the nation itself. A free people can choose to restrict imports and favour home manufacturing so as to provide work for people who would otherwise be tempted to commit suicide out of despair at being unable to afford marriage. The 'negative' of a lower level of consumption due to higher production costs would not outweigh the positive of national good health. Please consider this and see the absurdity of Dawkins' comment.
The ending of this conversation is very interesting. What is the path forward. I mean after the vaccination. Will we understand the root cause of the epidemics that keep happening? Will we learn how to prevent them? By this I mean.. will we understand that this came from animal farming and that it will keep happening again and again untill we stop this Virus Breeding Grounds that is Animal Farming.
25.10 just saying that the arrogance of the Elite is imo fascinating structures of Decentralised Finance 🤓 I am hoping Yuval is looking at this!
Listening in 2021 checking status on 2020
Something interesting. Pandemics often coincide with solar minimums and we have both now .
It's an interesting topic, but I think you have that backwards. Pandemics have tended to coincide with peak solar activity. See:
www.cambridge.org/core/journals/epidemiology-and-infection/article/sunspot-activity-and-influenza-pandemics-a-statistical-assessment-of-the-purported-association/06DDEE622D8ACFD42B3E1564278BD3FC/core-reader
And the fact that the current pandemic is taking place during a solar minimum contradicts the notion that there is a correlation between the two.
When I read Harari, I often had the feeling that his conclusions are based on obviously wrong assumptions, and usually it was a pain continuing until he completes his set of statements each based on the previous one and all at the end meant nothing but an illusion.
The same feeling again here while listening to his thesis.
Nevertheless he had several very good points.
Thanks Sam Harris for following the world agenda and letting us hear your opinions about the current matters. (Although I recently heard that you never read the comments on RUclips)
What assumptions of Harari's do you think are obviously wrong? If it's easier, you can focus on just one topic/example.
@@synchronium24 Yeah, I'm wondering too. Sure, he makes assumptions, but they're not necessarily wrong in my opinion.
could it be? a beacon in the storm?!
I love how Sam can't seem to bring any non-Jewish guests on his podcast.
I can name 10
So at min 40 Mr Yuval said cause he would like to see Media focus more on Political decisions and how Political decision affects us All, no matter where we live; And not to see a focus on how many Beds at ICU are filled and this prolonged FEAR that is induce in our every aspect of life : So is not Blackdeath this Sars Cov2 and we have the means : but still is been more than an Year since this video and I do guess cause all that can be seen on TV are induce Fears about the Sars Cov2 and no Correct Plan - Political and Economical for how to get us out of this DEBT that is growing.
36:00 "...the terrible things ppl will do just to prevent admitting they made a mistake" (that they are wrong about something). Here he mentions this being a deep seated character flaw in humans throughout the world and history. I agree. But substantial is not the word I would use to describe "the progress we've made over 500 years, or since medieval times." (in trusting science or in being able to admit mistakes). Or maybe it's the word progress ~ whichever, it has taken far too long. It is *a root* problem and these do take the longest to fix directly. The situation becomes circular b/c of people's inability to see where they are wrong, *due* to the flaw. If we are going to fix planetary problems, due to embedded human flaws, we are first going to have to root out the flaws. We do not have another 500 years to do this. Snap, snap, snap. I think the answer lies in communication and education but we must first somehow teach younger children and current adults to learn what indoctrination is and how to usurp it's powerful force in the brain. Yea, I can see that taking another damn 500 years ~ not funny.
42:07 The smartest thing that young activist need to learn and do. Follow the money before it gets out of hands of the populace.
Yes it must of being very difficult 'coming out' at 21...
G.K. Chesterton would certainly have argued forcefully and brilliantly against homosexual marriage, unlike the Catholic hierarchy or Catholic intellectuals today in England. Dale Ahlquist has collected some thoughts of Chesterton's touching on a subject that in his day was not mentionable. I must say Chesterton's words about Oscar Wilde seem shockingly harsh to me, though Wilde himself converted to Catholicism in extremis and so perhaps thereby accepted Catholic teaching.
AS A SPECIES THAT HAS FAR MORE IN COMMON THAN OUR OFTEN SUPERFICIAL IDIOSYNCRATIC DIFFRRENCES @ IT WOULD BE IN OUR COMMON INTERESTS TO REFORM AND REINVENT OUR POLITICAL, ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL ORDER TO ONE THAT CONTRIBTES TO
GLOBAL SOLIDARITY, UNITY, COOPERATION AND PEACE INSTEAD OF SQUANDERING OUR NATURAL, ECONOMICAL AND HUMAN RESOURCES TOWARD OUR POTEMTIAL DEMISE !
Scientists maybe willing to adapt their research, but are the labs that employ them willing to accept failure or results that don't meet their desired outcome?
I don't understand how one can divorce nationalism from tribalism. Hasn't a rise in nationalism always created fertile ground for war and tension between countries? Why would it be any different now? Can people really love their neighbour as well as people of other nations and states?
Ya. Yuval is correct if you accept his definition of nationalism, but it's so watered down as to include nonsense he would object to like "a white nationalist is just a white guy who loves his country". The most charitable I can be to his position is that nation states may have constituted part of the expanding circle when they first formed. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Expanding_Circle
"Can people really love their neighbour as well as people of other nations and states?"
The future of humanity depends on it. I'm not even going to make an empirical claim about whether it's true or false.
I'd like for these two to have this conversation again after all the hypocrisy from the current liberal administrations. Trump was far from perfect, but he was better than what we have now. I never thought I'd be saying this 15 months ago, but here I am.
why you hate trump so much
Because he is a pure narcissistic sociopath that has the emotional maturity of a twelve-year-old. Next question?
@@martinzarathustra8604 What is the opposite of TDS?
That question is like “why is shit disgusting”?
Yuval mentions that we are all humans, we all make mistakes, however, trump never admits that he's wrong, never retracts false statements, he simply piles on with more and more nonsense hoping it all goes away, as it does, this is very frustrating to Sam I feel.
Sam hates trump cos trump Hates everything about the USA
Anyone smart will refuse any untested inoculation .
lol 38:50
Any thought's on wealth inequality?
Well, it's bad and getting worse.
We need to hear a podcast on the protests and how it’s mislead. What Candice Owens has said about this topic is largely correct and I believe the moderate American will see this and this may strengthen trump votes.
I'll grant you we need sewers.
But not police and schools, as currently practiced.
Interesting.
Intellectual or not. Far left.
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Is this interview about everything being Trump's fault, or is it wort listening to?
I would say there has been a radical increase in awareness of zionism but they have overplayed their political hand. There will be pushback and a balance will be restored. God has command over our wise and unwise decisions and knowing how tiny we are on a universal scale, gives us strength and freedom to do whatever we want with trivial consequences.
yuval likes trump, sam keeps baiting lmao
Nationalism is good?
The love of your country sounds OK.
But tribalism, of which Nationalism is a subset, tends to lead to conflict with those outside the tribe and a sense of superiority to those who belong to the tribe.
So, we get American or Israeli, or German or British exceptionalism.
We seem to be happy not because of what we have but because we have what others do NOT have.
Renzo you've made your own definition of Nationalism so that anyone who is nationalistic can be out to be a bad person - exactly what Yuri was trying to explain against.
Sam Harris in conversation with Yuval. A strange set. Who plays who? So opposite one to each other. And what it truly reveals : both too big ego to acknowledge it. No surprise for one of them - disappointment - huge - for the other
Invest in Etherium! My god we need a safe way to transfer value!
Praising the WHO ? Byebye
Throwing the baby out with the bath water..
I doubt that Sam Harris will ever realize that religion is not a four letter word or that science is the current mythology we have adopted.
Imagine thinking this is an insightful conversation
@@emmanuelgarcia619 I subscribe to Sam, and have for a while, but lately his output has been milquetoast. Sam fancies himself Mr. Heterodox, but he's been offering the exact same perspectives on the exact same issues, guest after guest. He can do better. He has done better. He's mailing it in, and people sensitive to that critique, like the other assblasted commentor on here, must have tremendously low expectations.
@@primalchaos7 let me guess...Trump supporter?
@@primalchaos7 While I somewhat agree that this conversation wasn't very insightful (bringing up something new for us to think about). I can't help but feel that this will always happen when a person puts out content every week. You can't find something new to talk about every week, yet he is a content creator and SHOULD put out content consistently, purely based on the business model. Might I suggest that you are spoiled on good conversations good sir?
Jeez man you’re so insightful for calling these guys not insightful. So cool. Much wow.
@@ashtonhicks2514 lol, imagine being this much of a douche over someone else's Internet Opinion. Keep yourself safe, friend.
Same old, same old, from both. BORING.
So you want people to have different views every week? They should say all this again and again until people understand them. If you heard it all then skip the video, someone else might be listening to it for the first time. These people are treasures, and saying they are boring makes you sound greedy
@@YiannisANO1911 I hear exactly the same comments from Yuval on different podcasts, as if he's reading a teleprompter. He's repeating them word for word. He's scripted, that's why I find it boring. Sam has a serious case of TDS. That gets tiresome too.
sam sorry but a lot of stuff you utter about trump is quite irrational... like you kind use words like “obvious” “clearly” it really seems like unconscious emotions slipping through the judgments... yo dont really add any conclusive criticism it seems more like you dislike him and he diesnt fit your vision. no rationality when it comes to trump from your side.
So true. It's very frustrating. Sam is a super bright guy, but when Trump comes up it's like a switch flips, and Sam reverts from rationality to ideology.
@@crane550 Oh come on. If you're a Trump supporter you are about as smart as a paper bag. Tell me one redeemable thing about Trump. Give it a shot Mr. "rational".
Martin Zarathustra but actually i don’t support trump 100% i’m only judging sam on his pattern of reactions... and i noticed it already a wile back. when he stumbled over his own words. and ever since that i notice a conflict whenever he talks about trump. look its ok if u dislike trump. but sam harris shouldnt be a guy who dislikes a person he should be a guy who can accurately break down exactly what how and why, like how it is without using emotional words and kind of saying nothing but expression an emotion. the thing about people who mediate this much i’ve noticed i have no evidence but i’ve noticed this is my view:ego is part of your brain and if you meditate upon it all you’re doing is creating a new ego like Alan watts said you can never catch it as the ego immediately identifies with the newly created observational entity/bubble. people often reach a point that that part believes its the pure consciousness the ego slips through and tricks u. i notice this in sam he got tricked and has blindspots towards his own proclaimed ‘meditative state’ i suffered for 16 tears in my in my bed and i seem to be more resilient then sam as my unconscious learnt to live with constant pain, pain is much more fundamental then consciousness as it was there before. and my body has meditated upon that pain allowed me to deal with everything.
naiita bolsen We share a similar problem. I try to remember that every stab of pain can be seen as clear and fundamental evidence: I am lucky to have such undeniable proof of my continuing existence, such a powerful motivator for beneficial change, and such clear notice of what needs my objective attention.
I don’t think very highly of presidents or prime ministers, or even of judges and generals to begin with, so arguing for one or the other matters little to me. What does matter is how well I can count on those I must depend on to deliver the support I would die without. This makes it easier to see through many of the grand lies we are commonly told by our “fearless leaders” and “trusted advisors”, and to try to use that to try to inform those who make the best difference for our remaining quality of life.
I wish you peace and steadily diminishing pain. Thank you.
@@naiitabolsen819 " i’ve noticed i have no evidence but i’ve noticed" - no wonder you like Trump. "People are saying!! A lot of people are saying!" ...