How "Star Wars: Tales of The Empire" Should Have Ended
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Hello there! Star Wars Tales of The Empire wasn't perfect, but did give us a new look at Clone Wars General Grievous, Rukh, and Admiral Thrawn. But what if Barriss Offee faced off against Darth Vader for her betrayal of Ahsoka? Find out now!
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I skipped over a few episodes here and there. Honestly the Morgan ones weren't that interesting to me...
Yeah they felt like filler.
But the Barriss episodes were more worth it
i never watch the Mandalorian, so I don't bother the Morgan episodes. But Barriss however, still bugs me that she didn't meet Ahsoka in anyway, if fought, Ahsoka would have used Barriss' lightsaber and purify the crystal should Barriss wants revenge.
who is morgan?
They made it to where Morgan was the one who created the TIE defender project and not Thrawn. Which makes no sense
@@Lucasfan375She has been a ship builder for Thrawn so what is the reason that it does not make sense to you?
While some argue over whether Barriss should've stay an Inquisitor or not, I think we can all at least agree that her Inquisitor armor was cool and should've had more than one short.
I never pictured her as willfully joining them, so personally, I like that she did…basically by force (no pun intended), then left when she saw what it was really about.
What fools are arguing that? Just because she disagreed with the Jedi, doesn't mean she's going to automatically side with the Sith lmao. Her entire problem was the fact that the Jedi were forcing them to go to war instead of being peacekeepers.
@@tronovonflidder775 I think your missing the point. Barris is an ideal candidate for being an inquisitor. She dipped into the DS. She wouldve been conditioned and more before she went on her first mission. Ask how fun it was for 2nd & 9th sister lol
Barriss should have stayed villainous. Give the story much needed antagonist with some history and one that hasn't been repeatedly clowned.
The Visier could be red
Theres 2 logical explanations for the last one:
1) Lyn’s species age well or live for a long time.
2) As a healer who puts much of her life into others Barriss is loosing a lot of her life and it shows physically. Combined that with stress from being on the run.
Hmm, I didn't think of that. Good point
@@nchldmn
Theres a bit of mirroring here
The deeper into the dark side you go the more deformed you become and the more your body takes a toll. You horde and cling to hate to survive. Its selfishness to a degree. You can overcome this temporary like Sidious (who mastered all 10 forms of lightsaber combat and is insanely fast) by putting all your energy into that. The Grand Inquisitor said Barriss was still fighting like a Jedi so shes predictable. This is the same guy who was at her trial and loosing faith in the Jedi so he’s deep.
Barriss rejected the darkside and returned to the light and shes not bothered about loosing her life because shes a healer and being selfless. This deforms her but not in a bad way. Shes not old so shes still physically capable but not without any problems. So she would be putting her energy into movement and into predicting Lyn. She did say anger makes her predictable. And look how fast and fluid her movement is. Its almost like they used motion capture for that part. On top of that Barriss was acting like a true jedi. She was using the force for defence not attack. Compare that to The Grand Inquisitor who did the same thing but physically attacked Barriss. And she was like Ezra in Ahsoka to a degree. He used the force to attack but he was still defending himself and others. “The force is my ally.” Also Yoda was old and he needed a cain but like Sidious he mastered all 10 forms and when he has to he diverts energy into his fighting. He’s selfless as well and he said the force is my ally in 5.
Thats why I love these 3 episodes so much. You really see how the 2 sides mirror. Barriss fell out of the Jedi line but unlike the other Inquisitors like the 10th brother she never truly lost her away and became a true Jedi. 11 years of waiting payed off. Props to Dave and the writers of these episodes. Cant wait to see what they do next with Barriss.
@@nchldmn maybe Imperial skin care is a whole other level of awesome
I think its more likely the animators were lazy/ran out of money and they made an old looking model for Barriss because thats what they needed. It could also be allegorical to show through physical appearance that Bariss has grown up and matured while Lyn is immature while also being trapped in a state of stasis. It could be displaying that Lyn is dominated by fear thus she uses the Imperial cosmetics and plastic surgery facilities to stay young and sexy because she is ruled by her fears as Bariss points out, she is afraid of being replaced by younger Inquisitors thus she retains her youthful appearance to avoid appearing weak.
@@krel3358
“were lazy/ran out of money”
🙄 Of course you say that. These episodes are not cheap and lazily made anyone can tell you that. I gave you a perfectly logical explanations.
that grievous animation was so good🤣
Thank you :)
All throughout Barriss' redemption arc I kept thinking: "This is the same person that bombed the Jedi Temple, killing a lot of innocents, and was totally willing to get her friend executed for it." (Side note, why didn't the republic kill Barriss, for a crime which they sentenced Ahsoka to well death)
2:27
Grand Inquisitor: "It's time to meet your new Master."
5th Brother: "Hey, where are the rest of the Inquisitors, shouldn't we have more?"
Grand Inquistor: "Eh... they're busy with something else right now."
Cue to Jedi Fallen Order with Cal on the run and fighting off the Inquisitors.
I get the joke, but the events of Fallen Order happened 5 years afterwards.
@@jlev1028for some reason the rest of inquisitors such as seventh sister and reva doesnt have design or redesign so they go with all some inquisitors that is avaibles
Vader: you mean to tell me you and second sister have been hunting a mere child and you lost ANOTHER limb?
Ninth sister: Pretty much
Vader:…. You are so fired if she fails
“Well this sucks!”
I understood that reference.
*Barris heads to Scarif*
"Now this is more like it."
Everyone loves Madagascar
The look on Morgan's face when Grievous crawled on the ground was priceless 🤣🤣
1:24 I’m picturing that trooper now, laying in the medical bay, weakly repeating, “It was Barriss. Not Ahsoka. It was Barriss.”
No one hears to him, and when they finally do, all they can make out is the Ahsoka part.
“Don’t worry. We’ll track Ahsoka down.”
“No, not…” *Passed out.*
Bro that was Battlefront 2 Greivous
Two things in the show REALLY bothered me.
The retcon that Morgan came up with the TIE Defender
Barriss becoming an Inquisitor for like 2 seconds before deciding it was bad and becoming some weird guru healer (and then someone in Disney SW surviving a stomach stab wound for the umpteenth time).
0:18 best part 😂
The small scenes of Grievous were the only scenes I enjoyed in the whole show. Well maybe that and the shot of the 4 Venator Star Destroyers Escorting the Imperial 1 Star Destroyer. And of course all scenes with clones are greatly appreciated but it was such a missed opportunity to show Fox Getting Gutted by Vader as Justice for how he treated Ahsoka not to mention revenge for Fives.
Fox already died in a comic
@@nonamer3597 So did Caleb's master in the comic but Bad Batch show retconned it.
Why would Vader kill him for that? Tarkin tried to get ahsoka executed and Vader doesn’t hate him in fact I think he might even respect him
@@TheWarmachine375 Well, not exactly, just some details about it
@@jacktheflash8478 Tarkin believed she was responsible. Barriss knew she wasn't, she framed her.
1:23
Well, too, be fair, Trooper, Commander Fox didn't give Ahsoka a chance. The second he saw her, he pulled the alarm and started blasting 😅
0:20 Well, that was unexpected
I was hoping Barriss would come for revenge against Ahsoka. But the moment she gave up the inquisitorius, this won't bode well for Darth Vader, he'll know who fails and dies just like how he managed to keep the Grand Inquisitor alive to become an eternal ghost guarding Sith artifacts.
Why come revenge against Ahsoka when Barriss felt a regret of doing that to Ahsoka the moment she lost with Palpatine in trails? Eh, you people do not watched carefully the whole arc.
And Vader is known for his tactic of letting his enemies go to track down bigger targets, we know it since New Hope. Vader felt Barriss is in conflict, he knows she will leave Inquisitorious, and he hopes to track her down to find Ahsoka and kill both of them.
This was very good, but most of these have simple explanations that you probably missed. Thrawn obviously did not design the TIE defenders. He is an admiral, not an aerospace engineer. Barriss wasn’t targeted by Order 66 for the same reason Anakin wasn’t targeted. In the Clone Wars, Jesse said that they were given special orders from Palpatine to execute Ahsoka and Maul. Barriss got old quickly because she was draining her life force to heal others.
In the original canon, Thrawn DID design them, because he’s a man of many talents.
Retconning that it was Morgan’s idea is just a cheap way to make her feel more important than she actually is.
The problem comes when in rebels it is said explicitely that thrawn DID designed them, so now we have an incongruency.
@@borjab.when was this said in rebels?
@@borjab. This didn’t happen. Thrawn doesn’t have the skills to design them. It was his project that he promoted and oversaw, but obviously someone else designed them.
@@Gojirawars03 There is no retcon here. Thrawn has no experience or education in designing ships or fighters.
Vader stuff aside, if Barriss’ arc had one extra episode where she is found by Ahsoka and they both cleared the air, then I think it would’ve been better.
It won't be bad for us to Barrissoka fans ( I ship Barriss with ahsoka and idc what the 5th Fifth Season says about it and they are a Canon couple in my AU)
@@agent4ww191 kind of gay…
These are awesome man, great work
Honestly, this was better then what we got
Yeah,ı always think that. How clones did not exucute Barris? They try to kill both Maul and Ahsoka,despite the fact that both are not Jedi. So they should atleast try to kill her or something.
Honestly, i still hope we see in Some Recent Show
Like maybe if they make Ahsoka season 2 they'll introduce Lyn and Barriss cause the ending introduced more questions then answers
I still don't understand why people wanted Darth Vader wanted to have any sort of reaction to seeing Barriss though
That's honestly why I think Dave Filoni made this series.
@@nchldmn like excluding Morgan, Barriss here was also kinda a surprise
Like no offense but i would replace Barriss too with someone else, like Pryce or Yularen
@@riley-dv8eu I would have gone with Yularen and Thrawn
Thank you so much more making this!!! I was waiting for Vader to do that! And thank you so much for giving our favorite Grand Admiral all the credit he deserves! ❤️
There was something like that in my head when I was watching this series. Ty for your job!
0:19 Grievous jumpscare
Tales of the Empire was great and I hope next year they make a Tales of the Droids or Clones.
No, it wasn't. It was probably the weakest Star Wars Day gift ever.
Thrawn saw his former HISHE episodes and trolled them back
"Leave us". That one line was better than the entire Bariss arc smh
Honestly I agree, Barriss should have just gotten what she deserved after what she put Ahsoka through (just like Fox did).
This had only a 6 epsodes wtf
Yes?
Yes?
@@Valken985 that is stupid becouse I was ready for more
@@ILWOX1337it’s a mini series. Like tales of the Jedi. It’s not meant to last long
Clone Wars told way more and better stories in just one episode. This is just lazy filler.
I haven’t watched tales of the Empire, but I got all the information I needed to know from this 😂
I don’t think Vader would’ve had any beef with Barriss since, after Padme’s death, Vader did everything he could to bury any connections and feelings related to Anakin Skywalker as a coping mechanism to deal with his trauma. He literally saw Vader and Skywalker as 2 different people; it wasn’t just some bit he was doing to try to hide his identity from the rest of the galaxy.
I think he would've still had beef but wouldn't have done anything about it until she gave him an excuse to.
He had beef with Tarkan, and It had to do with his past life as Anakin Skywalker, it also just so happened to be the Ahsoka incident
@@Blizzards_holocron - Yeah, but his beef with Tarkin had more to do with how he acted around Vader and how much preferential treatment Tarkin got from the Emperor. To Vader, Tarkin was just another slightly higher ranked grunt, but he believed and acted like he was somehow the equal of or superior to a Sith Lord. And the Emperor never corrected him because he knew that it enraged Vader.
While the Barriss episodes weren't what many expected or hoped for, her story post TCW season 5 was no doubt something people wanted to see. Can't say many were excited to see Morgan's story.
Other imperials I think would've been better to see more of would be Kallus, the Grand Inquisitor, or one of the Imperial clones like Cody(find out more about his offscreen defection), Fox before Vader killed him, or Wolffe on how he's supposed to join Rex.
A shock trooper can be seen shooting a red lazer from his dc15 carbine
I loved this, how did you get this put so fast? Also, could you give me some insight on how you animate like this?
General grievous is hot.
So uncivilised.
🤨
Where the F was this Grevious during Clone Wars?! Closest we got to the 2D. Not only with fighting style, but toying with his victims who he was hunting.
I’d say he did a fair bit of toying in TCW
I was kinda hoping to see Captain Enoch’s pre night trooper armor in the show tbh, also yeah Vader should’ve been the one to kill Barriss
Why should he?
@@jacktheflash8478 Barris blaming Ahsoka For her acts, Vader being a hate Beast?
2:17 One of the blaster bolts turned red.
Good job
Broooooo 🤣🤣🤣🤣 That Grievous and Morgan intro was cool
TotE brought the non-Nighsister Dathomirians back into cannon, that's something...
2:16 Why was one of his shots red?
Bro why is Barriss Offee Green? 💀 1:11
Because he mistake yellow with green
Art style, animation program and design choice.
She always was.
she was in the 2003 clone wars series i think
@@Fortitudeeshe wasn’t
Actually, the TIE Defender was the brainchild of Grand Admiral Demetrius Zaarin. Dude betrayed the Emperor and attempted to seize the throne; when he was killed, the Defender idea was mothballed.
3:42 lol, the design flaw and honestly, not surprised SW Isn’t doing properly aging for some characters we know like Kenobi
What’s wrong with obi-wans age? He’s only 5 years younger than his actor in ANH
@@jacktheflash8478 Just Ewan McGregor and Alec Guinness age differently.
0:18 all battlefront players on this moment💀
This is an amazing animation.
Although I have one little suggestion, whenevr you do something relating to the Empire during 19 BBY and onward, Captain Rex should be referred to as Commander Rex because they do not know that he was demoted to a Captain.
Poor barriss at least she has her new animal friend to keep her company
Well done general grievous 0:19 😈😈
What they did with Barriss was the best thing in that series. She became what a truly Jedi should be.
Everyone except this but when it is something unexpected and great then it's far better.
Well the fact that Vader actually just sat there and said nothing probably means that he either didn't care about Bariss or was expecting for her to make her move like he did for Reva
But then again, wouldn't be surprised if Vader actually just kept her as an inquisitor if she'd stayed
it's giving 2008 RUclips and I love it
I was over the moon to see Grievous one step closer to returning to his former glory!
My man, where are the voice actors that you had?
*What if Vader sent the Inquisitors after different targets*
Grand Inquisitor: Lord Vader, we received a tip of a Jedi hiding amongst farmers on Raada. I am deploying the Sixth Brother to intercept.
Vader: No. His is needed elsewhere. Send the Fourth and Thirteenth Sisters( I don't know what Barriss' number was if she had one)
Grand Inquisitor: Yes, my lord.
*Raada. On a farm reduced to flames*
Barriss: What did all of this accomplish?
Fourth Sister: A message. A reminder to NEVER prank call the Empire.
Farmer: No! I'm telling the truth! The jedi is here. She'll be back.
Fourth Sister: Then you should've given us a precise location.
Ahsoka: How's this for precise?
*The Inquisitors turn around to see Ahsoka*
Barriss: Ahsoka? You're alive?
Ahsoka: I could say the same about you. Given that I was going to be executed for YOUR crimes. You've become what you said the jedi were becoming. An army fighting for the dark side.
Fourth Sister: And now I shall carry out the sentence you escaped from.
Barriss: She is unarmed, sister. She should be taken into custody first.
Fourth Sister: She is a traitor and will be dealt with as such!
Ahsoka: That's ironic coming from you.... Lyn.
*Fourth Sister angerily charges at Ahsoka*
Barriss: Sister, wait!
*Ahsoka easily counters and kills the Fourth Sister with her own lightsaber*
Ahsoka: Do you intend to finish what she started?
Barriss: No. I've caused too much death. I do not wish to inflict anymore.
Ahsoka: And you think that makes up for the innocent lives you took in the bombing and the prison.
Barriss: Nothing can.
Ahsoka: I can't forgive you, but I won't seek revenge either.
Barriss: What now?
Ahsoka: I intend to fight the empire. As fighting is all I know. You?
Barriss: I will do what I should've done. Heal instead of harm.
Ahsoka: I may never be able to call you a friend again, I can wish you best of luck.
Barriss: Goodbye, Ahsoka.
Ahsoka: Goodbye, Barriss.
Hello there
General Kenobi
@@Nathan74357you are a bold one.
The Barris episodes were a huge swing and miss. The writers had it made, especially drawing from Barris and Vader alone. Her perhaps realizing who he is/and or sensing a familiarity to him.
Her Inquisitor training was skipped. Inquisitors go thru hell and worse for those spots. Fallen Order elaborates a bit on that. Wouldve made for powerful storytelling for Barris to survive the mental anguish, isolation, and training to an Inquisitor..all the while having to walk a tightrope with Vader. Vader wasnt a fan of the Inquisitors...but he definetey didnt like her. Those episodes coulve served as Barris' karma for her crimes in TCW S5.
Don't mind me asking
But in your Bad Batch video, how come you showed so much scenes of Rampart getting shot, yet only one scene of Hemlock getting Shot
Hemlock is ten times worse then Rampart
Yeah dude Barris went from being like 17(if her and ahsoka are the same age) to like 50 in about 10 years
2:15 Still BETTER death than one in Legends ( being blasted by AT-TE during Order 66 )!!!
I think the reason Barris had aged so harshly was due to her years and abilities as a healer. Using her own life and energy to preserve others’.
I agree with commandor fox on this, why didn´t they execute barris? she was a jedi, like Ahsoka. Don't tell me they execute Ahsoka just because she had lightsabers :/
commander
My guess is that Sidious had plans for her, he probably saw that she was great at manipulating and tricking, much like him, and she’s also very powerful and went toe to toe with Anakin.
We got a HISHI Tales of the Jedi before GTA6
Grevious and the droids pretty much carried that Morgan episode
Why did you draw marrok as 8th brother? They are different characters
MAKES PERFECT SENSE!
kingfisher is actually the king of the fisher
Once again, this was better than the actual show.
They coulda added in Iden Versio’s squad in Tales of the empire that would’ve been interesting g
Ok, but why Barris Offee is more green here, than in actual Tales of the Empire?
Tbh tho there is no reason why Vader would want to kill Ahsoka if he literally tried to kill Ahsoka on Malacore, even if you call Vader Anakin he’s kill you, he don’t want to connections including Barris, obviously it’s a coincidence that she becomes and inquisitor and Vader aka Anakin is her master but it makes no sense😂
Is Merrin there?
Morgan's arc is literally about nothing. Everything that was shown to us, we already knew from the trailer. (Morgan from Dathomir, survived Grievous' attack, joined the Empire out of revenge against the Separatists, became Corvis's viceroy on Thrawn's recommendation, did not join the New Republic). They did not show why she is outwardly human, although her mother is Dathomirian, nor how she reacted to the end of the Clone Wars, nor how she first joined the Empire, nor her reaction to the disappearance of Thrawn and the fall of the Empire, nor the connection with the red grandmothers from another galaxy and the discovery of the ancient maps, not what she actually did on this planet, what she mined and produced... oh, and WHY THE FUCK BURN THE FOREST? WE KNOW YOU ARE EVIL!
Way better than the show itself
I still don't think what Marrok is 8 brother!
Finally he did it.
i do really like that part of darth vader and her they should of done that on the show ! 👍
2:30
Definitely a much better ending to Barriss than what actually happened.
If I’m being honest the Barriss episodes should have had her capture Luminara as a test to prove her loyalty we get a confrontation between the two and leads to her spot in rebels.
And if I’m being honest the Barriss arc should have ended with both Barriss and Darth Vader face to face leading to her death.
Let's be honest, Thrawn trying to get approve for mass production start of Perspective Fighter over around 14 years was the most realistic part of this series
3:47 Technically, it should also cut her arm
For the empire!
I’m coming for you💀💀💀
Tales of the empire felt mostly like an excuse to shoehorn in filoni’s ahsoka themed characters, after ahsoka was such a mid tv show. Must admit, I’m not a fan of Dave’s recent directions, with Mando S3 and most of Bad Batch
I don’t think he was that involved in the bad batch except for writing the first episode and what’s wrong with the bad batch?
Mando season 3 was mostly Favreau. He wrote all the episodes.
@jacktheflash8478 1. A lot of Bad Batch episodes are silly side quests that don't contribute to the plot and 2. The plot involving rescuing Omega became circular and repetitive by the third season.
The aging thing really bothered me
Also somehow a psychopath named lyn returned
Apparently you CAN survive falls!
That's what rex said to Jesse.
nice video aslo i never seen Tales of The Empire
Asoka rematch
Thank you for this !!! They are trying to make barriss the NEW Rey
Morgan's first episode was the only episode of hers I liked the most since it at least told about her early life and how the massacre on Dathomir changed her forever. Also, Morgan was a milf in animation in her episodes as a mid-aged woman and imperial loyalist. Just saying 🤷♂️
"Design flaw"
They couldnt kill morgan elsbeth she was alive in the ashoka show which takes place in the new republic era
That's the joke. Also, no one cares about Morgan, she's an irrelevant character artificially raised up by Filoni.
@@jlev1028how so?
@jacktheflash8478 By reading popular reception, duh. Morgan doesn't have a personal fandom, no one remembers a single line she has, and every episode in the live action shows she appears in are considered the weakest.
@@jlev1028 based
Canon Barriss kinda disrupts timeline for revenge of the sith movie she suppose to die in ordered 66 deleted scenes and it was later adapted for movies comic
Let's be honest: After that Clone Wars episode, there was no way she would be allowed to fight on Republic battle lines again.
@@jlev1028no what I’m saying’s I didn’t like filoni change her character in s5 clone wars despite timeline disruptions started back in 2008 and retcons
0:22
Remember when Bariss blew up the temple using an innocent person as a bomb, executed her co-conspirator, slaughtered clones, framed her best friend without remorse and held onto incriminating evidence as a trophy purely out of self indulgence? Well she's sorry and wants to protect people now.
cool
When ratchet deadlock 😂😅
Soon :)
1:24 But did they know it was Barriss who attacked them? Did they see her or was Barriss all stealthy? Otherwise they would've told Fox or Anakin the moment they woke up.
@hellstrom4209 good question, I have no idea either
I still don’t understand why they didn’t let Vader speak
James Earl Jones is retired from voice acting. They used ai for the Kenobi show
@@nchldmn, they could’ve done the same here. Or they could’ve grabbed Matt Sloan or Scott Lawrence
I guess they didn’t want to for whatever reason
@@jacktheflash8478, you can’t not have Darth freaking Vader talk
@@jacktheflash8478, besides, Vader made a cameo in the Phineas and Ferb Star Wars special and he spoke a sentence there. I would not be surprised if Dan and Swampy planned on giving Vader a bigger role but since James Earl Jones is likely expensive, they cut down his role into a cameo. That special came out in 2014 so Jones was still in the role as Rogue One came out two years later and Rebels began that year too
The whole “they” bs was extremely confusing and kind of pissed me off