21. The tires wear when we drive it. 22. If you slide a hard object down the side, the paint will scratch. 23. If I close the hood and I leave my hand resting on the radiator, my hand gets smashed.
24. Whenever I stick my hand in between the door while it's closing it will open back up. 25. Whenever I run a red light people will start honking at me. 26. Whenever I use my phone while driving the car won't start driving to the destination by itself. 27. My car doesn't read my mind and automatically know where I want to go. 28. When I'm trying to find my car it won't automatically come to me.
29. If I'm immature and impatient, nothing seems to go my way. 30. If I complain too much, everyone tends to ignore me, but please subscribe to my channel and watch more of my rants.
i always take a quick peak at the comments before starting the video, i thought this was an odd comment, now half way in, i get it haha. though that #2 should have been a recall (assuming it wasn't).
@@troyn936 that’s where it’s located in 2011-2017 I drive a 2017 located in the 2nd row floor storage and I had flat tire so I had to get the spare tire and put it on and drive it to Mavis. Then they had to put a whole new tire on. But yet the odyssey still running.
Thanks for taking the time to post....and willingness to endure the criticism of providing constructive criticism. Some many things we don't realized or think about until we have lived with them for a while. I am considering trading for a 2020 or 2021. So this was very helpful.
Normally I don't criticize, but if you are going to run a vacuum plugged into your vehicle, it is ADVISABLE to keep your car running. A battery is a battery is a battery! The vacuum has a motor for crying out loud. Even in your home it sucks current like nobody's business.
The auto shut off, very bad for the "new" starters and costly to fix as well. Wife and I made it a habit, it's the second button after starting car we press! It's a gimmick for these companies to pass the emission laws our politicians think of, which cost the consumer in the long run...
Thanks for posting, i don’t like the cup holders in the 2016! You basically have two usable ones up front and the rest are too shallow or so tucked into the doors you can’t get your drink out unless you open the door. Small inconvenience but not well thought out!?
The adaptive cruise, backseat camera and automatic wipers have been my favorite features on ours. Odd criticism of the wireless charging - if it works for you anywhere, it works here.
I own a 2019 Honda Odyssey and it breaks every other year. I WILL NOT buy a HONDA vehicle in my life again!! Honda vehicles are made to fail after the 2nd or 3rd year. Lot of issues, timing belt, induction system, transmission sensors etc, etc! DO NOT BUY A HONDA ODYSSEY EX look for other options from the competition instead.
For #7 with the MPG, I find that to be an issue with pretty much every car today. You can’t expect wonderful mpg with a heavy vehicle with a large 3.5L V6 engine.
Well, sadly Honda did make lots more improvements on the 2021 Odyssey, but those improvements are not available to the USA. In Japan, Honda offers the Odyssey Hybrid. I own a Honda Accord Hybrid and it has the best mileage of its class. Since the USA gave Honda a hard time selling hybrids and hybrid plugins, Honda has opted to not offer their best technology to us. Search for the RUclips video of the 2021 Honda Odyssey Hybrid! We're still going to lease the Odyssey without the Hybrid and hope that Honda can and will offer the hybrid version in the USA soon.
I love my Honda Odyssey I go camping with beds on the back for 2 and lots of storage drives smooth its what you pay for that you get kids love the entertainment center I bought a custom built fully loaded limited edition of Odyssey lots of room mine seats 8 when family want to go out in 1 car its fun. Not a race car you cannot expect mini van to save a lot of gas. Lol. Any mini van is good. Just bought my wife a Mercedes EQS for Christmas she loved it not getting a divorce haha.
Can you use voice commands to enter Navi details while driving? Btw, it’s great seeing owner feedback because if a “reviewer” said these things, they would never be invited back to a vehicle launch.
LOL, that was funny to hear. Yeah most reviews are people just reading a list of options or reading Canned PR scripts created by Honda. I bought this vehicle and I regret doing so, had I known these annoyances, I would have bought something else. Thanks for watching! I’m not sure about the voice command on the navigation
Myks Garage thanks for the reply. The Sienna also has a screen lock out while driving feature but you can use your voice. To be honest I’m not a fan of the touch screen. Try selecting a radio station while on a pothole laden road. Scroll wheels, track pads and voice is preferred. Thanks again.
I have same model got 50k on it as i drive alot. So far no complain still original breaks. Couple recalls but caused no problems just took it in and they update. Just normal oil changes and tire rotation. Love this vehicle, i think it is best family vehicle that you can buy in the market right now. Not sure why you are having so many problems. I will say next time take it to a different honda dealership, maybe it will help. Good luck
@@alinavanessajimenez2392 rear camera may get condensation inside the housing. Rear 12 volt power source wire may rub against the sheet metal and short out. Those were the two recalls I had on my 2019 Elite. Minor issues and easily fixed.
Haha buys a black minivan and complains about the AC not being effective. Yeah it was lame to get rid of the rear AC but the problem is the vans color. And putting vents in the ceiling wont help the air would be hot by the time it came out the vents. My 07 w dual AC has roof vents they are never very cold.
@@Myksgarage Im sure the AC on a black odyssey has the same btu output as on their white ones. Without meaning to be insulting, common sense tells us you shouldnt buy black in a vehicle with so much sheet metal. Its why in states like AZ, NM, etc, most of the cars you see are white. Dont expect to see a disclaimer on the one black car on a Phoenix lot. Its expected you should know. My 07 EX-L is nimbus gray, and a little hotter than I thought. The white one next to it looked hideous. I may buy a 2022 soon, it will for sure be white or lt silver.
I haven’t had the problem with the vac causing the low battery like you have. I’ve run it for 10-15 minutes and I don’t remember it giving me an issue. I’m sorry to hear yours has been a pain. Definitely agree that running the engine is not desirable because of the exhaust
Yikes... I can't imagine being this negative. I love my Honda! No navigation let's you enter addresses when driving.... android auto doesn't allow movies when driving. Is he blaming Honda?
Some valid complaints here, and some bs. Brakes are fine on mine, 65k and no pad changes or shaky brakes. I don't think there is a pad/rotor quality issue, at least not for all vans. Maybe you got a bad set? The vacuum is gimmicky, not real strong suction, by mine has run for 10-15 mintues with no battery warnings. You might want to check your battery. My lift gate doesn't get hung up either, but the foot wave thing doesn't work great. You missed the two biggest issues with these vans: 1. - can't unlock or lock doors or open/close doors with the remote at all when the vehicle is running. 2. - the radio/infotainment system has had numerous bugs and hangs up and won't reset without a keyboard or yanking the battery terminal off for a minute. Overall I like our van, but I'm definitely disappointed in the usability of some of the features. That being said, Chrysler products are pieces of junk, so there was no way we were buying a Pacifica.
It's AMERICAN HONDA built in AMERICA. It's just made that way for american customers. 70-80% is american developed parts with less than 15% is added with japan parts. Because Japan will never make you a V6 van and throw in VCM to save gas and make you pay for all these unnecessary electronics that can sabotage your feelings. Japan Honda will make you the car that will keep you from coming back to their dealership but American Honda wants to see your lovely face again, and again, and again, and so on as long as you still have their cars. I do own a 2012 Oddy exl and kept up my maintence. Runs like a champ because of me doing my research. Only problems I got caught up with were the VCM(now muzzled) and replaced my coils and sparkplugs. Ofc I have to replace my cat because I let the crappy VCM to that point BUT its not at its worse that its a repeatable problem at the moment. And so I do not have any major issues going on with my oddy since i keep up with my maintence by myself doing the work. And I was thinkn about a 2019 oddy but maybe by chance I'll have to move out of the oddy gang and look towards the new sienna. But i would love me a actual JDM oddy, 4cyl, manual tranny, and more open optional works to do cosmetically and internally.
@@Myksgarage I'm not trying to bash. You given me a good highlight on what to understand from these year models. Thank you for the touch on what needs to been known. Ofc, there's lots of unnecessaries and necessaries to a vehicle but we can't get what should be needed and not needed in a particular car. We're the buyers and they are the engineers.
I've heard a lot of complaints about the elite and touring models. We own a 2018 exl with nav / res (maybe a 1,000 less than you) and we love it. We have no issues with it. The remote start issue is interesting because I can start it in my house, in my work building (I have a window on the 2nd floor and the car is ground level but it starts), even when I'm at the store I can be at the beginning of the isle and the van at the end and she will start for me. I 100% agree with you on the apps. I wish we could download more. Since I have the exl, I have to use my mobile Hotspot to get our fire stick to work. It's a pain and we just use movies 99% of the time. I can say the rear vents concerned me because when we bought the van my daughter was a newborn. However even with it set to 70 degrees, she was cool to the touch. (We live in South FL so we get some serious heat) The remote start really helps cool the car off so by the time we got in, everything was cool off. Hopefully whatever time you have left with the Odyssey, you enjoy it. As of now, our plan is to keep it until the wheels fall off.
Thanks for your positive comment. I wish we would have bought a lower trim like the ex-l, but we will use this until the kids are grown, and hopefully it will be reliable
That's honestly my biggest concern. Growing up my family had a 2002 Odyssey. That thing had almost 300,000 miles on it. (A lot of cross country trips) She was in an accident 6 years ago and they totaled her. If this Odyssey can last as long as that with just basic maintenance, I'll be happy.
When you get a flat be ready to see what the really issue is it doesn’t matter exl or top . Your worst nightmare is when have a tirer flat in middle of a bad storm . Try get spear tirer out. Remove kids , baby, seat before you can get it out.
@@troyn936yeah they started that with the 4th gen (putting it in the floor behind the drivers row). I carry a plug kit and inflator, can fix about 90% of flats on the spot.
Thanks for making this video! I have a 2020 I just bought new, A/C vents not in ceiling-I AGREE! Good to hear other things that may go wrong. ALSO, my 2003 Ford Windstar showed me what headlights, taillights were out-I’ve just had the vehicle a week & I had a break light go out AND now a headlight & fog light. I also hate that the seat moves back every time I get out of the vehicle. 🤦🏻♀️
I’ve read it a recall issues with several years and trim models. I bought ours 2 days ago from Vacaville Honda and it’s a 2018. Had it one day and paint chipping off front bumper as it was wrecked but not reported to Carfax. The underside is gouged and muffler crushed. Missing plastic push pin screws to hold bumper to trim and overspray on headlights, side marker lights and overspray on bottom of car. I traded in my car with ALL3 keys and remotes and this came with one. Didn’t tell me until deal was done and signed. Plus it was NOT certified pre owned as it’s been abused. Took one day at my house to figure this out. They lied and said 70,000 miles is cutoff but every Honda website states 80,000 is cutoff for certified pre owned. I was passed around like a slut in a whore house from one salesman to another then to another just to distract me from looking at vehicle closely. I have my salesperson license but can’t do it as I have morals and integrity. They are called stealerships not dealerships. I could continue as the lane departure changes lanes and I’m pulling hard on the wheel to correct this. Even though I’m 100% in the middle of my lane. I have Class B and motorcycle license for close to 40 years now.
Are you sure the rain-sensing "sensitivity" adjustment you are mentioning is not the intermittent wiper adjustment? That escalating bar that rolls from thin to thick is usually how you adjust the delay on the wipers when in "intermittent" mode (INT). I am not familiar with a rain-sensing sensitivity adjustment.
Wait.. since when transmission grinding is a Mickey Mouse move? Right there those gears are compromised and that transmission is NOT at its full lifespan. Doah!
This is what a helpful review looks like. It's not nit-picking. It's showing exactly how well or how poorly executed the features are. I've had the same issues with '14 Odyssey brakes. 2008 Sienna had Poor execution of the adaptive cruise control making it unusable -- why did I pay for it?
@@Myksgarage did they address that in a recall? I saw that there are at least four recalls on the 2018-2019s I think. Anyway, great review, we have a 2014 Sienna we love but absolutely hate how the front grills look on the 2018-2020s and we’re not excited about the all hybrid for the 2021s. We honestly may wait for the 2022 Kia Carnival. But I’ve been really looking at the Odyssey’s the last couple of years.
Glad that I came across your video. Thank you for the information. I was actually about to go out and buy an Elite 2022 model. You have a lot of valid points. I don't think that I'd like the placement of the vents for the 2nd and 3rd row seats either. I personally wouldn't find the vacuum very useful. Glad that they got rid of it for the 2022 model. Now I am rethinking if I even should get the Elite trim after all. I wished that there was a "hotline" or a place (website) where actual users, customers or potential customers can leave our feedback for the manufacturer.
I bought the 2022EXL.. it’s $15,000 less than the elite,I gave up the entertainment system which I have replaced with a small TV behind the headrest with a tuner building and PlayStation hook up.. i don’t care for the vacuum,I use the one at the car wash for free..the only thing I would like is 115 V outlet,but I have a pure sine wave inverter installed..so it’s worth it for me to save $15,000..and get the EXL, I think it’s the best value for the money.some of his complaints are petty some are valid.. deceit remove ability and arrangement don’t bother me..the seat coming out!!or heavy doesn’t bother me,at least it’s removable the Toyota sienna they don’t come out at all.And I don’t care for hybrids just yet.
These issues make it seem like your vehicle is a lemon... we’re thinking of trading our 2016 touring for a 2021 EX-L/Touring on lease (to save money, almost $300 a month!) I hope you get these issues figured out/compensation from Honda!
we have a 19 and just put over 20k on it, only valid complaint to me is the 2nd row vents with a backwards facing car seat, but we do pilot seats and take the center out, and slide the seats in 2 clicks for the air to make it to the 1 yr old, never been an issue, no electrical problems, and if you go down 2 trim levels you lose the 10 spd transmission, and having to use a loaner van of the same model for an oil change........it makes a huge difference on driving experience from the 8 speed.
Thank you for this video. You have made some great points to aware potential buyers like myself. I am disappointed to see how much consumers pay for the technology which makes driving unsafe and unpleasant. Were those electrical issues (point # 2) resolved? How much did it cost to have them repaired?
Does you year give an alert on the dash which headlight, taillight is out until you replace it? My 2003 Ford Windstar had this feature and I’m really missing it. I just bought a 2020 & 2 lights have gone out & I haven’t noticed & I have no family, just a blind special needs brother. 🤷🏻♀️
You nailed it.I leased 12 of these between 2000 and 2021. The brake and tranny issue is on all except 2000 and 2021. The new GLOSSY screen looks terrible with finger prints. The second row seat back on all except 2021, could be folded flat unto the seat.This allows for a sheet of 4 x 8 stored in an angle. Now it does not allow. My lease is up soon and am sorry to say , I may do the Toyota.The only thing going for the Honda,is the handling. My 2000 reached 575000 km before I gave it away.
Informational, good video. Some of the qualities are good. Some of the bad. Sometimes it's not the car a lemon sometime. S the lemon is the people that make it or the mechanics but. So far, the video is very informational. I would like to buy a meeting at myself. And unfortunately depends on where they come from. Regards to the manufacturer, I try not to knock the product. Combined, it's just a product that's a victim of where it came from or who built it. Someone's mechanic should be take care of things. After 2 times after that fourth time he mentioned something about wiring and stuff need to find something that's more certified or can understand cars and not really care about his pay. Check and fixings cause what if I was an airplane. People need to take care of the prop. Pride of the job and fix, cause you're noise. Take me to the theater and the best option.There's always other people out there.Are not a dealership that could do better jobut.Unfortunately, if you just bought the car, you don't have that many options.There are good dealerships and bad dealerships
There is something also over the engine battery if one needs to utilize jumper cables like in winter not easy to acces the part he did not mention would make 19 issues. The exhaust could be rerouted with a custom to the side to avoid the exhaust of CO into the cabin but why purchase problems to begin with. I agree don't like the auto switch off button so close as one could even accidently push it also but seems it goes on at will that is dangerous with family in mind. The single screen dispaly being over cluttered with uselss info some of no use. They would have learned from older generation of cars and Honda seem better without the distractions and gimmicks. What is the point of brake sensors if brakes are faulty or don't work there seems hardly any mileage on the new vehicle. I like Honda alot but this seems like a lemon for the price.So glad to someone posted an honest review. So much push for electric cars but seems they are alot of things need to be rethought in design.
The going to park at 45mph is very scary. And the locking of the steering wheel makes it worse, I'd be very disappointed with Honda if this happened to my Odyssey. Our 2020 Odyssey has had it's fair share of electrical issues, including a now broken RES Screen. However, that seems to be the extent of what's wrong with our odyssey, nothing mechanically luckily.
3. Wireless Charging pad doesn't charge through a case. That's a issue with the case not the pad. There are cases that specifically advertise they work with wireless charging, I have a civic with that same charging unit and it charges my phone fine with a case.
Sometimes, our phones don't charge wirelessly if the phone is not flushed against the charger. Whether we had a case on the phone or not, but having a case on it requires better placement on the charger.
@@Myksgarage this comment is from a year ago, why are u commenting now, you had the option to check out the features before you bought, so can't really complain after you bought it.
The EXL is too noisy the Elite Trip is a lot quieter! I have had mine since 2018 and love it! my 2018 has 177K miles on it now and still running amazing.
You overheated the front brakes and thus ended up with warped rotors, too bad. Yes, there are electrical problems with even faulty warning indications which at times come & go. There are problems with the sliding door on the drivers side. The rear a/c is ridiculously poor and a crime at the price for this vehicle. Yes, the infotainment system is far from perfect and the adaptive cruise control lacks speed in the response needed to accelerate to the set speed after a slow down when encountering slower traffic ahead. The GPS is far from perfect - google map far outshine the Honda system as well the lack of needed updates on new roads. System failures on the hands free phone function is another problem. My 2011 & 2016 Odyssey’s have been far more enjoyable and so much less complicated. Definitely the middle seats are a big pain if you are trying to not use them for any reason with that sliding hump being just a big pain in the neck - hate that feature Also useless is the cap-less fuel filler - dislike it with a passion. May need to take a serious look at Toyota for a replacement. The range with a full tank is another negative surprise - surely Honda could have installed a tank with a larger fuel capacity.
#2... If you're seriously locking up going 45 mph then this vehicle is a complete and total safety hazard on the road for yourself and people around you. You should not be driving this vehicle if this is happening. I would be getting a new vehicle from Honda, and getting an attorney if they are not agreeing. No way I put my life or my families' life at risk with that problem.
I think the adaptive cruise control having farther distance is a good thing because some of us drive way too close. This is a family vehicle so staying far away from the person ahead of us only keeps us and our family safer.
Defensive driving courses teach 3 second rule. Pick out some stationary object on side of road beside car ahead of you. Count 3 seconds. If you are past that object by 3. You are too close. Really has helped and become a normal habit. Can pretty much judge that distance without counting as habit develops. Saved my bacon couple times in the last 20 years.
I was considering buying the elite but a voice inside me kept saying you’re paying $10,000 for a DVD player and should really get the EX or the EXL trim and your video has confirmed my suspicions. Thank you for posting.
I'm sorry, but I've had a 2018 Elite for 2 months now, and I disagree with almost everything in this video. The electrical issues you experienced seem scary, but nothing for us so far. Perhaps you got a lemon? We had a 2012 Odyssey for about 5 years, which was a great van, and this one is leaps and bounds better than even that! Perhaps with time, I will change my tune.
My complaints to add to yours: It doesn't have enough ambient lighting at night so the kids can't see in the dark (our Chrysler T&C had awesome interior lighting). I hate the button to open/close the door for the sliding door (Instead of having to hit the top of the button or the bottom of the button, you should just have one button to hit to open/close the door instead of having to look at the button every time and read it to see if you mash the top of it or the bottom of it). Also, I hate that the sliding doors stop for like 5 seconds if you accidentally hit the button twice or hit it in the middle of it closing/opening (It makes you wait the whole 5 seconds before you can hit the button again to close/open it which is very difficult during school drop off). It doesn't have an option for 2nd row heated seats like the Chrysler. ...These are just off the top of my head. I know I have more.
I love my van and don't have a problem with most the things that here listed. The vacuum doesn't have enough power but really that's the only think I don't love.
I think our Honda Odyssey elite we have one of the 2021 is just fine. Why are you so complaining about this? It’s like who cares if the exhaust gets in the cabin or not 😅
Seem like Honda Odyssey has the brake problem like you said. I had 2009 Hondao Odyssey, changed the brake rotor several time, but still got this problem from the first few years until now. I just bought 2024 Honda Odyssey, I hope I don't have the Electrical problem like you said...They should RECALL this problem.
-The brakes in general are weak on this car -for the wireless charger, you should have a wireless charging capable phone case, it's not the car's fault. wife's phone charges fine with a case on the phone. -most people don't know the "int" wipers have two modes, Rain sensing or timed, it's in the settings. -Honda's adaptive cruise control is really bad compared to German cars. lane keep is OK you are right, the adaptive revs and then brakes hard often. very weird you really got unlucky with that power/transmission issue. that was going on for a while; they could not figure it out. I did not experience that, but my car was part of the recalled ones. >>the recall did two things, check the power cables to make sure they are not loose, update transmission software to go into N instead of P; if power is lost and restored to transmission I pointed out to them, they created a new problem; but dealer did not think it's a problem. now, if your transmission loses power it will reset to N, thus rolling away while parked (if parking brake was also not set)... :)
Wow, I really wanted the elite when we got our 2019, but seems like every thing I wanted in it was worth less! We settled on ex-l so all the things you mentioned weren't a problem. Nice video
Honda (and Acura) is resting on their laurels IMO. Their cars are not as good as before. I bought a new Acura and the AC is a big disappointment. My old Honda AC was much better. That's why I hesitate to replace my 2007 Odyssey EX-L with the new Odyssey though I feel like it's time for a newer van. I can't stand how they come up with the placement of the new Odyssey's AC vents and other things you mentioned.
Opposite to what you felt, I used the LKA and ACC all the time and it’s very helpful especially during road trips. I did got a similar feeling that if other drivers invade your right of way and safe distance, the ACC’s reactions are a bit abrupt. But that’s to keep you safe. And, it’s other driver’s fault because they are not making a safe lane change
We had a 2008 EX-L, it was great until a red light runner totaled it in 2014. We replaced it with a 2014 EX-L. It was great until it also was totaled by another red light runner just recently. It had 100k miles and was great. Replacing it with a 2023 EX-L. The Odyssey gets equal or better mileage than any other similar vehicle not a hybrid, but drives much better. We never used the cool box so not worried about that. Rear entertainment is a waste in any vehicle, get a couple iPads for far less that will be much more versatile. I don’t understand why anyone pays for Rear entertainment post the introduction of the iPad a decade or so ago. The only App needed in the car is Apple CarPlay. How many USB ports do you really need in the back seats. If you really need more than two just buy a cheap portable battery. I never found the seats hard to take out. Just lift up and out to the side in the garage. How often do you go to Home Depot to by ply wood and that decision took you off guard? The vacuum is pretty silly, not sure why anyone would want one in their car. I do agree that the rear vents were better overhead though and the EX-L is a better buy than the Elite or Touring.
2023 EX-L is a great van. We bought in 2019 and avoided the lower trims only because they had the problematic German ZF 9 speed transmission. Honda finally stopped using it and all Odyssey trims get the Honda built 10 speed transmission.
I don't have elite have exL and have a delay when pressing the gas at low speeds like when in turning lane waiting to turn or coming out of parking lot I hit the gas and it doesn't go for like a few seconds. Have had mine just stop on frwy and couldn't drive couldn't even put in neutral for tow truck. Have had them look into it 3 or 4 times. At what point is this a lemon haha
Some time after you uploaded this video but do you still have this car? (checked out your channel and I see content for other cars so I'm guessing no?) Curious just to see if you still have it or got rid of it for one of the other cars. Recently got a 2023 and since I live outside the US, we only get 2 trims, and the "touring" trim is the lowest one and it comes with most of these features except for: HondaVac (discontinued due to ShopVac closing during pandemic), Blindspot monitoring (chip shortage), auto wipers and heated (but still ventilated) seats, a plus though is that Auto stop/start is abscent (Mexican units don't get it....I see not having it as a feature lol). LKAS and adaptive cruise do work better, we just went on a roadtrip not 2 weeks ago and if anything I wanted the car to be a bit more decisive when pulling out from following a slow car, I was not in eco mode, so current system heard your complaints and the closest setting to follow was closer than what you showed here. Fuel economy was around 25mpg, and this still with waiting in line for some 30-40 mins. We have mixed feelings regarding the "are we there yet" feature our young kids do get a kick out of it, but it would sure be nice if it was also available via using Google/Apple maps from carplay. We live in the desert so we are a bit curious as to how it's going to fare with summertime heat, and whatever car we where going to get a must have for us is some nice ceramic tint on all windows, so hoping that helps, we usually don't run it under 70°F though purely because that's what we're used to. Appreciate this video. I think each of the few remaining minivans have their own thing going for it and if you really value one you'll end up choosing it and having to deal with compromises: Sienna: MPG and or AWD, Gas Pacifica: Stow and go (and also AWD), PHEV Pacifica: Better MPG but still have a v6, Carnival: Latest tech, Honda: only choice if you want the upper trim with seating for 8/trying to be Goldilocks and or Jack of all trades feature wise. We where originally going to get the Sienna, but those are just impossible to find right now.
Concur with everything listed, but you forgot a big one. When the middle seat is left folded forward (common with kids) - the seat slides back and forth until it's physically locked back in place. This is super annoying when you are driving the van alone and can't reach all the way back to manually push it back into place. Ugh.
We purchased a 2019 Honda Odyssey elite (used), I've owned it for 45 days and I can't stand it. I'm so disappointed because I did a ton of research before buying; the air will not circulate well, esp. for rear facing car seats. I purchased a fan for the rear facing seat. We pay for wifi , and it constantly cuts off, I've called ATT and they said its Honda. I hate the breaks as well, I am looking to trade it it, and get something that would work better for our family.
hi hows your Honda odyssey ? do you still have a transmission problem ? like driving 45 mph then going to complete stop? im looking to buy honda odyssey this week EXL 2021 , sense Sienna overpriced (((( or kia carnival limited stock
I sold mine back in 2021, thankfully Covid drove prices up so I could get out of it, it only had like 20k miles and after dealer fixed the electrical issue it was fine after that
The rain sensing wipers and wireless charges are a few of the features Honda is charging for upgrading the the Touring trim (here in Canada), an almost $7000 premium over the next lower trim. That these don't work as intended is a real bummer. The electrical issues are especially troubling and echoes similar complaints from Consumers Reports on this car.
My comments will not be to critize but to try to help. I’ve had a 2018 Odyssey and currently have a 2021, both Elite Touring. Concerning auto wipers, the 2018 had problems from the day I got i. You could see something out of place behind the rear view mirror, as if it had not been assembled properly. the dealer worked on it several times but was only able to improve it not completely fix it. The 2021 has no problems and works as expected - so I don’t feel it’s a design problem. Regarding the cruise control, it works flawlessly on mine. Regarding the start/stop problem I find that when the engine stops (I occasionally forget to turn it off) just releasing the brake or the slightest tug to turn the steering wheel will immediately restart the engine. I keep it turned off to reduce starter wear. I have never experienced an engine stop while moving. Maybe your problems are holdovers from your battery cable problem? Concerning the tailgate hands free I learned to wave my foot from one one side to the other (about 1 foot) under the sensor. Works every time and operates no slower than using the key fob or the dot button. I have had zero brake problems and have been impressed with how quickly it can stop for such a heavy vehicle. Concerning the vac - that’s a gimmic feature. I’ve used it a couple of times in emergencies. Usually I get my big shop vac out or use the one at the carwash. Regarding th fold down seats, I simply fold them down for long items. They are heavy though. My DIY days are behind me so I don’t haul a lot these days. Hope some of this helps you. I have also owned a 2915 which didn’t’ t have the auto/stop or adaptive cruise or the automatic wipers. No problems with it - my daughter still driving it. The only issue I’ve had with them is the wipers on the 2918. Great cars for my family.
im glad i watched ur video, i have a ,2012 elite, offwhite, and I feel likes it looks better and I love/my kids the dual screen in the middle. I though about upgrading but with less than 100k , not even worth thinking about it
We went on a big road trip with our 2020 honda odyssey an we got 32 MPG with the A/C on. The worst fuel economy we got with the van is 28mpg the best is 36 mpg. We did notice the same thing that the back didn't have good air flow with the Vents.
Oh yeah the gas mileage does suck!!19 city 26 highway is terrible in 2022 however it’s a proven V6 that powers a lot of Acura products the only issue was the transmission and this is a new 10 speed unit hope it holds up..I only use odyssey when I need the room I drive my other car to run short trips alone,it burns gas like crazy
Yeah I believe 2022 Elite trim still has those same issues. It’s the highest trim level and it’s very disappointing to see a Honda that is 50k have terrible specs like this.
We live in Florida and we wish the a/c vents were better positioned. It takes a long time to cool the car down in the summer. a/c worked much better in our 2006 Odyssey.
Ah yes, thank your government for this...just like the stupid auto stop/start. They require R1234YF instead of R134a. It's an inferior refrigerant...oh, and bonus- it's corrosive. You should see all the Civics with A/C issues. It's nuts.
I have the 2019 Odyssey EX and I haven't had issues with the brakes or transmission yet. This video does make me concerned about the brakes since I have only put less than 10K miles on mine's. I do want to also point out that the Odyssey uses a GDI (Gasoline Direct Injection) engine with VCM (cylinder deactivation). I've read that older Honda VCM engines had issues. Also, I heard that GDI engines are susceptible to carbon buildup on intake valves. I may need to look into installing an oil catch can but I'm not sure yet if this would void any warranties or be detrimental in any other way. If anyone knows about this, please reply. As for the transmission shifting to park unexpectedly, there has been a recall issued for the 10 speed which the Elite trim does have. The recall fix is to have the transmission shift to neutral rather than park if TCU reboots. NHTSA RECALL NUMBER:19V-299. As for the EX trim in the one I have, the 9 speed ZF transmission is used instead. I personally don't like how it shifts and reviewers have noted this. I'm glad I didn't waste money on the higher trims with the useless features. In fact, for the rear seat entertainment setup for my rear passengers, I just bought tablet holders (tinyurl.com/yaxkoavy) and attached them to the headrests of the front seats. I agree with point on the bad placement of the AC vents, I believe it would be better on the ceiling. I also feel that the rear AC vents are not that strong. Personally, I don't regret my purchase decision since safety was the priority. The IIHS gives the current gen Odyssey a Top Safety Pick rating. On the other hand, the current gen Toyota Sienna is still on a decade old platform. I believe the upcoming Sienna might be worth considering since I believe it's likely to do well in IIHS testing. Also, Toyota didn't offer Android Auto at the time and driver assist features came at a higher price premium than on the Odyssey. Though in Toyota's favor, their Sienna is probably more reliable especially with their dual injector PFI GDI engine design that is resistant to intake valve buildup.
Thanks for watching and for the well thought out and detailed comment. I think the odyssey is still a good choice and a better value in the lower trims, the Elite trim is a waste. Thanks
I have Honda Accord V6 2012 with VCM which will switch from 6 to 3 cylinders. After 10K, I have to replace both catalytic converters as they were fouled up. Usually they last forever. The issue is the cylinder rings of the back three cylinder leaks and allow engine oil burns thru the exhaust pipe and you will lose the engine oil 1 qt after 2K miles. Honda knows that and had a recall. After the fix, no oil consumption but I still paid 2K to replace the catalytic converter.
We have a 2020 less 1900 miles and radio already crackles, Bluetooth is intermittent, DVD player doesn't want to play no more, and even better.... the radio literally just went out black screen in the front smdh.... and some of the complaints from this video are very valid. These companies are getting over with sloppy products that are not cheap
I have a 2021 odyssey touring. . . and it's been nothing but trouble. Mine shifts into neutral and sport, and it started itself in the service drive at Honda and they aren't admitting there's any trouble. Shifting into Park while driving at 45???? I would have lemon lawed that thing fast. That's a huge safety concern! Problem is, getting American Honda to care and actually take responsibility.
I'm glad I didn't get an Elite. I wrote a very bad evaluation on Edmonds last year about my 2019 EX. I had a 2016 which I loved, I thought the 2019 would be better with the 9spd transmission. Mileage is great features suck. You must be short. My 2016 EX I could open the rear door and walk under it, the 2019 I hit my head and have to duck to walk under the tailgate. Great video. Honda is losing ground.
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21. The tires wear when we drive it.
22. If you slide a hard object down the side, the paint will scratch.
23. If I close the hood and I leave my hand resting on the radiator, my hand gets smashed.
Good observations, I’ll have to add those to my next video.
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24. Whenever I stick my hand in between the door while it's closing it will open back up. 25. Whenever I run a red light people will start honking at me. 26. Whenever I use my phone while driving the car won't start driving to the destination by itself. 27. My car doesn't read my mind and automatically know where I want to go. 28. When I'm trying to find my car it won't automatically come to me.
29. If I'm immature and impatient, nothing seems to go my way.
30. If I complain too much, everyone tends to ignore me, but please subscribe to my channel and watch more of my rants.
i always take a quick peak at the comments before starting the video, i thought this was an odd comment, now half way in, i get it haha. though that #2 should have been a recall (assuming it wasn't).
Our family has owned 7 Odysseys from 2000 -2019 and they have all been awesome vehicles,
Thanks for watching
SEVEN?! I have a 2006 sienna and we are just now planning on getting a new one!
@ResistanceofNWO hahahahahahha right!? What a clown 🤡
The worst issue is the spear tirer location where you remove all kid or baby & seat before get out in middle of highway & bad wheather!!!
@@troyn936 that’s where it’s located in 2011-2017 I drive a 2017 located in the 2nd row floor storage and I had flat tire so I had to get the spare tire and put it on and drive it to Mavis. Then they had to put a whole new tire on. But yet the odyssey still running.
You a very wierd dude man an have very high expectations for a $50,000 minivan all the stuff you want you need a Mercedes minivan that cost $100,000
No, a Chrysler would have been better than this Honda
@@Myksgarage Wrong! Chryslers are garbage.
This car sucks!!! The black one looks like a hearse (sorry). I'm leaning towards buying a Sienna...but it has its own issues.
Yeah I agree! There is not a perfect vehicle out there, so you just have to out way the negatives
Ha ha. Looks like a hearse. I have been saying the same thing. Glad someone agrees. It’s that curvy trim line
Thanks for taking the time to post....and willingness to endure the criticism of providing constructive criticism.
Some many things we don't realized or think about until we have lived with them for a while.
I am considering trading for a 2020 or 2021. So this was very helpful.
Thanks for the positive comment!
Normally I don't criticize, but if you are going to run a vacuum plugged into your vehicle, it is ADVISABLE to keep your car running. A battery is a battery is a battery! The vacuum has a motor for crying out loud. Even in your home it sucks current like nobody's business.
The auto shut off, very bad for the "new" starters and costly to fix as well. Wife and I made it a habit, it's the second button after starting car we press! It's a gimmick for these companies to pass the emission laws our politicians think of, which cost the consumer in the long run...
Yeah it seems I necessary!
Thanks for posting, i don’t like the cup holders in the 2016! You basically have two usable ones up front and the rest are too shallow or so tucked into the doors you can’t get your drink out unless you open the door. Small inconvenience but not well thought out!?
Thanks for sharing
The adaptive cruise, backseat camera and automatic wipers have been my favorite features on ours. Odd criticism of the wireless charging - if it works for you anywhere, it works here.
Thanks for watching
Same for us. I have a new 13 max in a case and it works just fine for me.
I own a 2019 Honda Odyssey and it breaks every other year. I WILL NOT buy a HONDA vehicle in my life again!! Honda vehicles are made to fail after the 2nd or 3rd year. Lot of issues, timing belt, induction system, transmission sensors etc, etc! DO NOT BUY A HONDA ODYSSEY EX look for other options from the competition instead.
Thanks for sharing your experience
For #7 with the MPG, I find that to be an issue with pretty much every car today. You can’t expect wonderful mpg with a heavy vehicle with a large 3.5L V6 engine.
Yes I expect an improvement over the previous generation, which this did not
Well, sadly Honda did make lots more improvements on the 2021 Odyssey, but those improvements are not available to the USA. In Japan, Honda offers the Odyssey Hybrid. I own a Honda Accord Hybrid and it has the best mileage of its class. Since the USA gave Honda a hard time selling hybrids and hybrid plugins, Honda has opted to not offer their best technology to us. Search for the RUclips video of the 2021 Honda Odyssey Hybrid! We're still going to lease the Odyssey without the Hybrid and hope that Honda can and will offer the hybrid version in the USA soon.
I love my Honda Odyssey I go camping with beds on the back for 2 and lots of storage drives smooth its what you pay for that you get kids love the entertainment center I bought a custom built fully loaded limited edition of Odyssey lots of room mine seats 8 when family want to go out in 1 car its fun. Not a race car you cannot expect mini van to save a lot of gas. Lol. Any mini van is good. Just bought my wife a Mercedes EQS for Christmas she loved it not getting a divorce haha.
Toyota sienna is heading towards right direction.No car is perfect every vehicle has some flaws you just gotta evolve your way around it.
Can you use voice commands to enter Navi details while driving? Btw, it’s great seeing owner feedback because if a “reviewer” said these things, they would never be invited back to a vehicle launch.
LOL, that was funny to hear. Yeah most reviews are people just reading a list of options or reading Canned PR scripts created by Honda. I bought this vehicle and I regret doing so, had I known these annoyances, I would have bought something else. Thanks for watching! I’m not sure about the voice command on the navigation
Myks Garage thanks for the reply. The Sienna also has a screen lock out while driving feature but you can use your voice.
To be honest I’m not a fan of the touch screen. Try selecting a radio station while on a pothole laden road. Scroll wheels, track pads and voice is preferred. Thanks again.
I have same model got 50k on it as i drive alot. So far no complain still original breaks. Couple recalls but caused no problems just took it in and they update. Just normal oil changes and tire rotation. Love this vehicle, i think it is best family vehicle that you can buy in the market right now. Not sure why you are having so many problems. I will say next time take it to a different honda dealership, maybe it will help. Good luck
Thanks for watching!
what type of recalls did you have? I am seriously considering this car.
@@alinavanessajimenez2392 rear camera may get condensation inside the housing.
Rear 12 volt power source wire may rub against the sheet metal and short out.
Those were the two recalls I had on my 2019 Elite. Minor issues and easily fixed.
I think it's the shop that's lacking. They couldn't fix it the first two times. I would question their credentials.
Yeah they were a big part of the problem. This has eventually turned into a recall....
@@Myksgarage recall of your car or all cars are being updated now?
Good video. We have a 2018 Elite; however, we are very happy with it. NOTE: We previously had a Dodge Caravan, so anything else is a big step up.
Thanks for watching!!
Haha buys a black minivan and complains about the AC not being effective. Yeah it was lame to get rid of the rear AC but the problem is the vans color. And putting vents in the ceiling wont help the air would be hot by the time it came out the vents. My 07 w dual AC has roof vents they are never very cold.
Then Honda should have a warning on their darker colors that the A/C will not work as well…
@@Myksgarage Im sure the AC on a black odyssey has the same btu output as on their white ones. Without meaning to be insulting, common sense tells us you shouldnt buy black in a vehicle with so much sheet metal. Its why in states like AZ, NM, etc, most of the cars you see are white. Dont expect to see a disclaimer on the one black car on a Phoenix lot. Its expected you should know. My 07 EX-L is nimbus gray, and a little hotter than I thought. The white one next to it looked hideous. I may buy a 2022 soon, it will for sure be white or lt silver.
I haven’t had the problem with the vac causing the low battery like you have. I’ve run it for 10-15 minutes and I don’t remember it giving me an issue. I’m sorry to hear yours has been a pain. Definitely agree that running the engine is not desirable because of the exhaust
Thanks for watching, I appreciate your comment!
Yikes... I can't imagine being this negative. I love my Honda! No navigation let's you enter addresses when driving.... android auto doesn't allow movies when driving. Is he blaming Honda?
Yes I'm blaming Honda
Some valid complaints here, and some bs. Brakes are fine on mine, 65k and no pad changes or shaky brakes. I don't think there is a pad/rotor quality issue, at least not for all vans. Maybe you got a bad set? The vacuum is gimmicky, not real strong suction, by mine has run for 10-15 mintues with no battery warnings. You might want to check your battery. My lift gate doesn't get hung up either, but the foot wave thing doesn't work great. You missed the two biggest issues with these vans: 1. - can't unlock or lock doors or open/close doors with the remote at all when the vehicle is running. 2. - the radio/infotainment system has had numerous bugs and hangs up and won't reset without a keyboard or yanking the battery terminal off for a minute. Overall I like our van, but I'm definitely disappointed in the usability of some of the features. That being said, Chrysler products are pieces of junk, so there was no way we were buying a Pacifica.
Yeah I agree with your comments. I was lucky enough to sell this month. I won’t buy another Honda
It's AMERICAN HONDA built in AMERICA. It's just made that way for american customers. 70-80% is american developed parts with less than 15% is added with japan parts. Because Japan will never make you a V6 van and throw in VCM to save gas and make you pay for all these unnecessary electronics that can sabotage your feelings. Japan Honda will make you the car that will keep you from coming back to their dealership but American Honda wants to see your lovely face again, and again, and again, and so on as long as you still have their cars. I do own a 2012 Oddy exl and kept up my maintence. Runs like a champ because of me doing my research. Only problems I got caught up with were the VCM(now muzzled) and replaced my coils and sparkplugs. Ofc I have to replace my cat because I let the crappy VCM to that point BUT its not at its worse that its a repeatable problem at the moment. And so I do not have any major issues going on with my oddy since i keep up with my maintence by myself doing the work. And I was thinkn about a 2019 oddy but maybe by chance I'll have to move out of the oddy gang and look towards the new sienna. But i would love me a actual JDM oddy, 4cyl, manual tranny, and more open optional works to do cosmetically and internally.
Thanks for sharing your experience
@@Myksgarage I'm not trying to bash. You given me a good highlight on what to understand from these year models. Thank you for the touch on what needs to been known. Ofc, there's lots of unnecessaries and necessaries to a vehicle but we can't get what should be needed and not needed in a particular car. We're the buyers and they are the engineers.
Well all the technical issues you have with the 2019 Honda Odyssey is so messed up especially when it is brand new.😮
I know, it's been frustrating
I've heard a lot of complaints about the elite and touring models. We own a 2018 exl with nav / res (maybe a 1,000 less than you) and we love it. We have no issues with it. The remote start issue is interesting because I can start it in my house, in my work building (I have a window on the 2nd floor and the car is ground level but it starts), even when I'm at the store I can be at the beginning of the isle and the van at the end and she will start for me.
I 100% agree with you on the apps. I wish we could download more. Since I have the exl, I have to use my mobile Hotspot to get our fire stick to work. It's a pain and we just use movies 99% of the time.
I can say the rear vents concerned me because when we bought the van my daughter was a newborn. However even with it set to 70 degrees, she was cool to the touch. (We live in South FL so we get some serious heat) The remote start really helps cool the car off so by the time we got in, everything was cool off.
Hopefully whatever time you have left with the Odyssey, you enjoy it. As of now, our plan is to keep it until the wheels fall off.
Thanks for your positive comment. I wish we would have bought a lower trim like the ex-l, but we will use this until the kids are grown, and hopefully it will be reliable
That's honestly my biggest concern. Growing up my family had a 2002 Odyssey. That thing had almost 300,000 miles on it. (A lot of cross country trips) She was in an accident 6 years ago and they totaled her. If this Odyssey can last as long as that with just basic maintenance, I'll be happy.
When you get a flat be ready to see what the really issue is it doesn’t matter exl or top . Your worst nightmare is when have a tirer flat in middle of a bad storm . Try get spear tirer out. Remove kids , baby, seat before you can get it out.
@@troyn936yeah they started that with the 4th gen (putting it in the floor behind the drivers row). I carry a plug kit and inflator, can fix about 90% of flats on the spot.
Thanks for making this video! I have a 2020 I just bought new, A/C vents not in ceiling-I AGREE! Good to hear other things that may go wrong. ALSO, my 2003 Ford Windstar showed me what headlights, taillights were out-I’ve just had the vehicle a week & I had a break light go out AND now a headlight & fog light. I also hate that the seat moves back every time I get out of the vehicle. 🤦🏻♀️
Good feedback!
man this just sounds like a dude crying. we love our honda
Nope not crying, just complaining. Luckily I was was able to sell it 3 months ago….
@@Myksgarage people hate the truth. Thank you for your truth. What make did you buy?
Your car went from Drive to Park at 45mph 20 times??? Holy gear grind!
Yeah about 20 times, and it lost power when it did that!!
I’ve read it a recall issues with several years and trim models. I bought ours 2 days ago from Vacaville Honda and it’s a 2018. Had it one day and paint chipping off front bumper as it was wrecked but not reported to Carfax. The underside is gouged and muffler crushed. Missing plastic push pin screws to hold bumper to trim and overspray on headlights, side marker lights and overspray on bottom of car. I traded in my car with ALL3 keys and remotes and this came with one. Didn’t tell me until deal was done and signed. Plus it was NOT certified pre owned as it’s been abused. Took one day at my house to figure this out. They lied and said 70,000 miles is cutoff but every Honda website states 80,000 is cutoff for certified pre owned. I was passed around like a slut in a whore house from one salesman to another then to another just to distract me from looking at vehicle closely. I have my salesperson license but can’t do it as I have morals and integrity. They are called stealerships not dealerships. I could continue as the lane departure changes lanes and I’m pulling hard on the wheel to correct this. Even though I’m 100% in the middle of my lane. I have Class B and motorcycle license for close to 40 years now.
Are you sure the rain-sensing "sensitivity" adjustment you are mentioning is not the intermittent wiper adjustment? That escalating bar that rolls from thin to thick is usually how you adjust the delay on the wipers when in "intermittent" mode (INT). I am not familiar with a rain-sensing sensitivity adjustment.
I’m sure
dud stop wining .next time buy chipper car with
less options
Yes, I will!
I still have a 2011 ex-l and been debating upgrading but I think I’ll stick it out. I love my big cup holders in the door, the cool box, etc.
Yeah I think that’s the right move.
I'll never own another Honda again
Me too
Alot of this video is nit-picking by a Mickey Mouse RUclipsr with a iPhone
No frills, just a real raw review.
Wait.. since when transmission grinding is a Mickey Mouse move? Right there those gears are compromised and that transmission is NOT at its full lifespan. Doah!
For real!!!
lol this guy will never be happy with anything
You’re right, I won’t ☹️
This is what a helpful review looks like. It's not nit-picking. It's showing exactly how well or how poorly executed the features are. I've had the same issues with '14 Odyssey brakes. 2008 Sienna had Poor execution of the adaptive cruise control making it unusable -- why did I pay for it?
Thank you! I’m glad you appreciate an owners perspective!
This video is the definition of nit-picking. He complained that the rear seat monitor camera was too grainy and that there wasn't a fridge.
Holy Crap, shifted into Park and locked the steering wheel on its own while driving down the road...WTHeck Man..!!!
I know crazy right?!
@@Myksgarage did they address that in a recall? I saw that there are at least four recalls on the 2018-2019s I think. Anyway, great review, we have a 2014 Sienna we love but absolutely hate how the front grills look on the 2018-2020s and we’re not excited about the all hybrid for the 2021s. We honestly may wait for the 2022 Kia Carnival. But I’ve been really looking at the Odyssey’s the last couple of years.
Clearly you haven’t own a fiat Chrysler product you will run back to Toyota or Honda
Your car is just broken
Yeah, I wish I could just return it to Honda
Glad that I came across your video. Thank you for the information. I was actually about to go out and buy an Elite 2022 model. You have a lot of valid points. I don't think that I'd like the placement of the vents for the 2nd and 3rd row seats either. I personally wouldn't find the vacuum very useful. Glad that they got rid of it for the 2022 model. Now I am rethinking if I even should get the Elite trim after all. I wished that there was a "hotline" or a place (website) where actual users, customers or potential customers can leave our feedback for the manufacturer.
Glad you found this helpful. Thanks for watching
I bought the 2022EXL.. it’s $15,000 less than the elite,I gave up the entertainment system which I have replaced with a small TV behind the headrest with a tuner building and PlayStation hook up.. i don’t care for the vacuum,I use the one at the car wash for free..the only thing I would like is 115 V outlet,but I have a pure sine wave inverter installed..so it’s worth it for me to save $15,000..and get the EXL, I think it’s the best value for the money.some of his complaints are petty some are valid.. deceit remove ability and arrangement don’t bother me..the seat coming out!!or heavy doesn’t bother me,at least it’s removable the Toyota sienna they don’t come out at all.And I don’t care for hybrids just yet.
@@Eelgnotsa wonder if you can retrofit the ventilated seats to an ex-l.
POV: biggest complainer of all time lol
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@@Myksgarage My bad man didn't mean it just a big honda fan
Damn and stop crying It's not like your buying a Porsche or lamborghini or Bentley
Yeah I know right!! 😂😂
These issues make it seem like your vehicle is a lemon... we’re thinking of trading our 2016 touring for a 2021 EX-L/Touring on lease (to save money, almost $300 a month!) I hope you get these issues figured out/compensation from Honda!
Thanks for watching, it sounds like that lease deal is pretty good.
we have a 19 and just put over 20k on it, only valid complaint to me is the 2nd row vents with a backwards facing car seat, but we do pilot seats and take the center out, and slide the seats in 2 clicks for the air to make it to the 1 yr old, never been an issue, no electrical problems, and if you go down 2 trim levels you lose the 10 spd transmission, and having to use a loaner van of the same model for an oil change........it makes a huge difference on driving experience from the 8 speed.
Thanks for sharing your experience
Thank you for this video.
You have made some great points to aware potential buyers like myself. I am disappointed to see how much consumers pay for the technology which makes driving unsafe and unpleasant.
Were those electrical issues (point # 2) resolved? How much did it cost to have them repaired?
I didn’t have to pay, the car was only 6 months old with 4,000 miles so it was under warranty. Thanks for watching
Love my 2022 model....so far no complaints!
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Does you year give an alert on the dash which headlight, taillight is out until you replace it? My 2003 Ford Windstar had this feature and I’m really missing it. I just bought a 2020 & 2 lights have gone out & I haven’t noticed & I have no family, just a blind special needs brother. 🤷🏻♀️
2019 Honda Odyssey Elite, 18,541 miles
Have you had issues with yours?
HONDA IS REALLY CUTTING COSTS THE LAST FEW YEARS, SUCH A SHAME AS THEY WERE SUCH GOOD VEHICLES.
Yeah I agree
You nailed it.I leased 12 of these between 2000 and 2021. The brake and tranny issue is on all except 2000 and 2021. The new GLOSSY screen looks terrible with finger prints. The second row seat back on all except 2021, could be folded flat unto the seat.This allows for a sheet of 4 x 8 stored in an angle. Now it does not allow. My lease is up soon and am sorry to say , I may do the Toyota.The only thing going for the Honda,is the handling. My 2000 reached 575000 km before I gave it away.
Thanks for your comment! Best of luck to you!
I have the same issues. I just came out the dealership for a recall on the 3rd row outlet that had to be replaced.
Interesting
Thank you for a great review very informative and non-biased as you said you must vehicle thank you
Thank you for the positive comment!
Thank you for a great review very informative and non-biased as you said you must vehicle thank you
Thank you for the positive comment!!
Informational, good video. Some of the qualities are good. Some of the bad. Sometimes it's not the car a lemon sometime. S the lemon is the people that make it or the mechanics but. So far, the video is very informational. I would like to buy a meeting at myself. And unfortunately depends on where they come from. Regards to the manufacturer, I try not to knock the product. Combined, it's just a product that's a victim of where it came from or who built it. Someone's mechanic should be take care of things. After 2 times after that fourth time he mentioned something about wiring and stuff need to find something that's more certified or can understand cars and not really care about his pay. Check and fixings cause what if I was an airplane. People need to take care of the prop. Pride of the job and fix, cause you're noise. Take me to the theater and the best option.There's always other people out there.Are not a dealership that could do better jobut.Unfortunately, if you just bought the car, you don't have that many options.There are good dealerships and bad dealerships
Thanks for the comment
There is something also over the engine battery if one needs to utilize jumper cables like in winter not easy to acces the part he did not mention would make 19 issues.
The exhaust could be rerouted with a custom to the side to avoid the exhaust of CO into the cabin but why purchase problems to begin with.
I agree don't like the auto switch off button so close as one could even accidently push it also but seems it goes on at will that is dangerous with family in mind.
The single screen dispaly being over cluttered with uselss info some of no use.
They would have learned from older generation of cars and Honda seem better without the distractions and gimmicks. What is the point of brake sensors if brakes are faulty or don't work there seems hardly any mileage on the new vehicle. I like Honda alot but this seems like a lemon for the price.So glad to someone posted an honest review. So much push for electric cars but seems they are alot of things need to be rethought in design.
Thanks for your comment! You make some great points
The going to park at 45mph is very scary. And the locking of the steering wheel makes it worse, I'd be very disappointed with Honda if this happened to my Odyssey. Our 2020 Odyssey has had it's fair share of electrical issues, including a now broken RES Screen. However, that seems to be the extent of what's wrong with our odyssey, nothing mechanically luckily.
Yeah it was very scary!
3. Wireless Charging pad doesn't charge through a case. That's a issue with the case not the pad. There are cases that specifically advertise they work with wireless charging, I have a civic with that same charging unit and it charges my phone fine with a case.
Sometimes, our phones don't charge wirelessly if the phone is not flushed against the charger. Whether we had a case on the phone or not, but having a case on it requires better placement on the charger.
Good point, but if the wireless charger doesn’t work for my situation, it provides no value and therefore a useless feature
@@Myksgarage this comment is from a year ago, why are u commenting now, you had the option to check out the features before you bought, so can't really complain after you bought it.
The EXL is too noisy the Elite Trip is a lot quieter! I have had mine since 2018 and love it! my 2018 has 177K miles on it now and still running amazing.
Good to hear
So all this fever about Honda reliability is just BS. Why should I pay so much more for a Honda? I will just go with a Kia Carnival instead.
Yeah that would be my recommendation
You overheated the front brakes and thus ended up with warped rotors, too bad. Yes, there are electrical problems with even faulty warning indications which at times come & go. There are problems with the sliding door on the drivers side. The rear a/c is ridiculously poor and a crime at the price for this vehicle. Yes, the infotainment system is far from perfect and the adaptive cruise control lacks speed in the response needed to accelerate to the set speed after a slow down when encountering slower traffic ahead. The GPS is far from perfect - google map far outshine the Honda system as well the lack of needed updates on new roads. System failures on the hands free phone function is another problem. My 2011 & 2016 Odyssey’s have been far more enjoyable and so much less complicated. Definitely the middle seats are a big pain if you are trying to not use them for any reason with that sliding hump being just a big pain in the neck - hate that feature Also useless is the cap-less fuel filler - dislike it with a passion. May need to take a serious look at Toyota for a replacement. The range with a full tank is another negative surprise - surely Honda could have installed a tank with a larger fuel capacity.
Thanks for sharing your feedback, potential buyers need to hear from actual owners!!
#2... If you're seriously locking up going 45 mph then this vehicle is a complete and total safety hazard on the road for yourself and people around you. You should not be driving this vehicle if this is happening. I would be getting a new vehicle from Honda, and getting an attorney if they are not agreeing. No way I put my life or my families' life at risk with that problem.
Yeah it was a crazy experience
Have a 2021 Touring model and it’s a scary electrical nightmare. Opens doors on its own, loses all power out of nowhere. Beware of this vehicle
Unfortunately, I can relate
I think the adaptive cruise control having farther distance is a good thing because some of us drive way too close. This is a family vehicle so staying far away from the person ahead of us only keeps us and our family safer.
Good point
Defensive driving courses teach 3 second rule. Pick out some stationary object on side of road beside car ahead of you. Count 3 seconds. If you are past that object by 3. You are too close. Really has helped and become a normal habit. Can pretty much judge that distance without counting as habit develops. Saved my bacon couple times in the last 20 years.
My biggest complaint is road noise. I'm considering selling my 2020 for that reason only, though it could be a wee bit more comfortable.
Yeah I recall having some road noise aswell
I was considering buying the elite but a voice inside me kept saying you’re paying $10,000 for a DVD player and should really get the EX or the EXL trim and your video has confirmed my suspicions. Thank you for posting.
I think you're on the right track! Elite is a waste
I'm sorry, but I've had a 2018 Elite for 2 months now, and I disagree with almost everything in this video. The electrical issues you experienced seem scary, but nothing for us so far. Perhaps you got a lemon? We had a 2012 Odyssey for about 5 years, which was a great van, and this one is leaps and bounds better than even that! Perhaps with time, I will change my tune.
Well thanks for watching my review.
My complaints to add to yours: It doesn't have enough ambient lighting at night so the kids can't see in the dark (our Chrysler T&C had awesome interior lighting). I hate the button to open/close the door for the sliding door (Instead of having to hit the top of the button or the bottom of the button, you should just have one button to hit to open/close the door instead of having to look at the button every time and read it to see if you mash the top of it or the bottom of it). Also, I hate that the sliding doors stop for like 5 seconds if you accidentally hit the button twice or hit it in the middle of it closing/opening (It makes you wait the whole 5 seconds before you can hit the button again to close/open it which is very difficult during school drop off). It doesn't have an option for 2nd row heated seats like the Chrysler. ...These are just off the top of my head. I know I have more.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
I wish there were mor reviews like this
Thank you!
The van just goes into park at 45mph and the steering wheel locks??? 20 times? AND you still drive it? I call BS!
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Window lockout- same on my 2021 crv- that gets on my nerves
Definitely!
I love my van and don't have a problem with most the things that here listed. The vacuum doesn't have enough power but really that's the only think I don't love.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
I think our Honda Odyssey elite we have one of the 2021 is just fine. Why are you so complaining about this? It’s like who cares if the exhaust gets in the cabin or not
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I know right!
Seem like Honda Odyssey has the brake problem like you said. I had 2009 Hondao Odyssey, changed the brake rotor several time, but still got this problem from the first few years until now. I just bought 2024 Honda Odyssey, I hope I don't have the Electrical problem like you said...They should RECALL this problem.
Yeah this should be a recall, thanks for watching!
-The brakes in general are weak on this car
-for the wireless charger, you should have a wireless charging capable phone case, it's not the car's fault. wife's phone charges fine with a case on the phone.
-most people don't know the "int" wipers have two modes, Rain sensing or timed, it's in the settings.
-Honda's adaptive cruise control is really bad compared to German cars. lane keep is OK
you are right, the adaptive revs and then brakes hard often. very weird
you really got unlucky with that power/transmission issue. that was going on for a while; they could not figure it out.
I did not experience that, but my car was part of the recalled ones.
>>the recall did two things, check the power cables to make sure they are not loose, update transmission software to go into N instead of P; if power is lost and restored to transmission
I pointed out to them, they created a new problem; but dealer did not think it's a problem.
now, if your transmission loses power it will reset to N, thus rolling away while parked (if parking brake was also not set)... :)
Thanks for yours comment
Wow, I really wanted the elite when we got our 2019, but seems like every thing I wanted in it was worth less! We settled on ex-l so all the things you mentioned weren't a problem. Nice video
Thanks for watching. You made a better purchase than I did. I wish I would have bought the ex-l trim and then put the elite 19” wheels on it.
@@Myksgarage I have a question, other than the looks, is there any benefit to the 19” rims?
@Myksgarage Yeah then you wouldnt get the bluray player, only the exl with res/nav
Honda (and Acura) is resting on their laurels IMO. Their cars are not as good as before. I bought a new Acura and the AC is a big disappointment. My old Honda AC was much better. That's why I hesitate to replace my 2007 Odyssey EX-L with the new Odyssey though I feel like it's time for a newer van. I can't stand how they come up with the placement of the new Odyssey's AC vents and other things you mentioned.
Good points!
Opposite to what you felt, I used the LKA and ACC all the time and it’s very helpful especially during road trips. I did got a similar feeling that if other drivers invade your right of way and safe distance, the ACC’s reactions are a bit abrupt. But that’s to keep you safe. And, it’s other driver’s fault because they are not making a safe lane change
Thanks for watching my video!
This review might be a hoax.
We had a 2008 EX-L, it was great until a red light runner totaled it in 2014. We replaced it with a 2014 EX-L. It was great until it also was totaled by another red light runner just recently. It had 100k miles and was great. Replacing it with a 2023 EX-L. The Odyssey gets equal or better mileage than any other similar vehicle not a hybrid, but drives much better. We never used the cool box so not worried about that. Rear entertainment is a waste in any vehicle, get a couple iPads for far less that will be much more versatile. I don’t understand why anyone pays for Rear entertainment post the introduction of the iPad a decade or so ago. The only App needed in the car is Apple CarPlay. How many USB ports do you really need in the back seats. If you really need more than two just buy a cheap portable battery. I never found the seats hard to take out. Just lift up and out to the side in the garage. How often do you go to Home Depot to by ply wood and that decision took you off guard? The vacuum is pretty silly, not sure why anyone would want one in their car. I do agree that the rear vents were better overhead though and the EX-L is a better buy than the Elite or Touring.
Thanks for sharing your experience
2023 EX-L is a great van. We bought in 2019 and avoided the lower trims only because they had the problematic German ZF 9 speed transmission. Honda finally stopped using it and all Odyssey trims get the Honda built 10 speed transmission.
How is the odyssey thus far? Im looking at a 23/24 model as well.
I don't have elite have exL and have a delay when pressing the gas at low speeds like when in turning lane waiting to turn or coming out of parking lot I hit the gas and it doesn't go for like a few seconds. Have had mine just stop on frwy and couldn't drive couldn't even put in neutral for tow truck. Have had them look into it 3 or 4 times. At what point is this a lemon haha
That's strange!
Thanx for helping us make decision !!
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I complain a lot...but dang you take the cake, for the petty complainer. 😂
Complaining makes for good RUclips videos!
Most auto manufacturers will cut corners to cut cost by eliminating features.
Yeah that's evident here
Some time after you uploaded this video but do you still have this car? (checked out your channel and I see content for other cars so I'm guessing no?) Curious just to see if you still have it or got rid of it for one of the other cars.
Recently got a 2023 and since I live outside the US, we only get 2 trims, and the "touring" trim is the lowest one and it comes with most of these features except for: HondaVac (discontinued due to ShopVac closing during pandemic), Blindspot monitoring (chip shortage), auto wipers and heated (but still ventilated) seats, a plus though is that Auto stop/start is abscent (Mexican units don't get it....I see not having it as a feature lol).
LKAS and adaptive cruise do work better, we just went on a roadtrip not 2 weeks ago and if anything I wanted the car to be a bit more decisive when pulling out from following a slow car, I was not in eco mode, so current system heard your complaints and the closest setting to follow was closer than what you showed here. Fuel economy was around 25mpg, and this still with waiting in line for some 30-40 mins.
We have mixed feelings regarding the "are we there yet" feature our young kids do get a kick out of it, but it would sure be nice if it was also available via using Google/Apple maps from carplay. We live in the desert so we are a bit curious as to how it's going to fare with summertime heat, and whatever car we where going to get a must have for us is some nice ceramic tint on all windows, so hoping that helps, we usually don't run it under 70°F though purely because that's what we're used to.
Appreciate this video. I think each of the few remaining minivans have their own thing going for it and if you really value one you'll end up choosing it and having to deal with compromises: Sienna: MPG and or AWD, Gas Pacifica: Stow and go (and also AWD), PHEV Pacifica: Better MPG but still have a v6, Carnival: Latest tech, Honda: only choice if you want the upper trim with seating for 8/trying to be Goldilocks and or Jack of all trades feature wise. We where originally going to get the Sienna, but those are just impossible to find right now.
I sold it as soon as the pandemic hit, and I was able to get my money out of it thankfully
@@Myksgarage Cool, yeah that was a heck of a time for selling cars/houses.
Sometimes my sliding door doesn't open all the way. Anyone else have that problem?
That sucks!
Wow ken boy having a bad day here. Sorry for your losses my guy.
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Concur with everything listed, but you forgot a big one. When the middle seat is left folded forward (common with kids) - the seat slides back and forth until it's physically locked back in place. This is super annoying when you are driving the van alone and can't reach all the way back to manually push it back into place. Ugh.
Yeah that is annoying, I totally forgot about that
He complain to much, car got everything u need just asking?
It needed to be said
We purchased a 2019 Honda Odyssey elite (used), I've owned it for 45 days and I can't stand it. I'm so disappointed because I did a ton of research before buying; the air will not circulate well, esp. for rear facing car seats. I purchased a fan for the rear facing seat. We pay for wifi , and it constantly cuts off, I've called ATT and they said its Honda. I hate the breaks as well, I am looking to trade it it, and get something that would work better for our family.
I totally know how you feel. We just picked up this vehicle and we love it: ruclips.net/video/-DeHc7XGYKs/видео.html
I’m sticking with our 2016 Elite
I think that is a wise choice
i still have the 2012 version :) it has a hge tv though-
Is a 2015 ex-l a good choice?
hi hows your Honda odyssey ? do you still have a transmission problem ? like driving 45 mph then going to complete stop? im looking to buy honda odyssey this week EXL 2021 , sense Sienna overpriced (((( or kia carnival limited stock
I sold mine back in 2021, thankfully Covid drove prices up so I could get out of it, it only had like 20k miles and after dealer fixed the electrical issue it was fine after that
The rain sensing wipers and wireless charges are a few of the features Honda is charging for upgrading the the Touring trim (here in Canada), an almost $7000 premium over the next lower trim. That these don't work as intended is a real bummer. The electrical issues are especially troubling and echoes similar complaints from Consumers Reports on this car.
Yeah it’s not worth the upgrade cost. Stick with the lower trim levels.
My comments will not be to critize but to try to help. I’ve had a 2018 Odyssey and currently have a 2021, both Elite Touring. Concerning auto wipers, the 2018 had problems from the day I got i. You could see something out of place behind the rear view mirror, as if it had not been assembled properly. the dealer worked on it several times but was only able to improve it not completely fix it. The 2021 has no problems and works as expected - so I don’t feel it’s a design problem. Regarding the cruise control, it works flawlessly on mine. Regarding the start/stop problem I find that when the engine stops (I occasionally forget to turn it off) just releasing the brake or the slightest tug to turn the steering wheel will immediately restart the engine. I keep it turned off to reduce starter wear. I have never experienced an engine stop while moving. Maybe your problems are holdovers from your battery cable problem? Concerning the tailgate hands free I learned to wave my foot from one one side to the other (about 1 foot) under the sensor. Works every time and operates no slower than using the key fob or the dot button. I have had zero brake problems and have been impressed with how quickly it can stop for such a heavy vehicle. Concerning the vac - that’s a gimmic feature. I’ve used it a couple of times in emergencies. Usually I get my big shop vac out or use the one at the carwash. Regarding th fold down seats, I simply fold them down for long items. They are heavy though. My DIY days are behind me so I don’t haul a lot these days. Hope some of this helps you. I have also owned a 2915 which didn’t’ t have the auto/stop or adaptive cruise or the automatic wipers. No problems with it - my daughter still driving it. The only issue I’ve had with them is the wipers on the 2918. Great cars for my family.
Thanks for sharing!
im glad i watched ur video, i have a ,2012 elite, offwhite, and I feel likes it looks better and I love/my kids the dual screen in the middle. I though about upgrading but with less than 100k , not even worth thinking about it
Exactly, I wished I would have kept my 2014 instead!
We went on a big road trip with our 2020 honda odyssey an we got 32 MPG with the A/C on. The worst fuel economy we got with the van is 28mpg the best is 36 mpg. We did notice the same thing that the back didn't have good air flow with the Vents.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
AC is the worst
The AC does struggle and does not cool our van in Texas. Unfortunately we’re stuck with it unless we want to pay 1000 a month for something else.
Yeah that was a big problem for us as well
Oh yeah the gas mileage does suck!!19 city 26 highway is terrible in 2022 however it’s a proven V6 that powers a lot of Acura products the only issue was the transmission and this is a new 10 speed unit hope it holds up..I only use odyssey when I need the room I drive my other car to run short trips alone,it burns gas like crazy
Yeah that new transmission gave us problems when it shifted from drive to park while driving multiple times
Pretty biased review. Not a great review man.
Yeah I am biased towards my money, and this Honda was not a good purchase
Yeah I believe 2022 Elite trim still has those same issues. It’s the highest trim level and it’s very disappointing to see a Honda that is 50k have terrible specs like this.
Yes it is! They are slow to make changes
We live in Florida and we wish the a/c vents were better positioned. It takes a long time to cool the car down in the summer. a/c worked much better in our 2006 Odyssey.
Yeah that’s a big short coming of this Van....
Ah yes, thank your government for this...just like the stupid auto stop/start. They require R1234YF instead of R134a. It's an inferior refrigerant...oh, and bonus- it's corrosive. You should see all the Civics with A/C issues. It's nuts.
thank you for your honest and practical review.
Thanks
I have the 2019 Odyssey EX and I haven't had issues with the brakes or transmission yet. This video does make me concerned about the brakes since I have only put less than 10K miles on mine's. I do want to also point out that the Odyssey uses a GDI (Gasoline Direct Injection) engine with VCM (cylinder deactivation). I've read that older Honda VCM engines had issues. Also, I heard that GDI engines are susceptible to carbon buildup on intake valves. I may need to look into installing an oil catch can but I'm not sure yet if this would void any warranties or be detrimental in any other way. If anyone knows about this, please reply.
As for the transmission shifting to park unexpectedly, there has been a recall issued for the 10 speed which the Elite trim does have. The recall fix is to have the transmission shift to neutral rather than park if TCU reboots. NHTSA RECALL NUMBER:19V-299. As for the EX trim in the one I have, the 9 speed ZF transmission is used instead. I personally don't like how it shifts and reviewers have noted this.
I'm glad I didn't waste money on the higher trims with the useless features. In fact, for the rear seat entertainment setup for my rear passengers, I just bought tablet holders (tinyurl.com/yaxkoavy) and attached them to the headrests of the front seats. I agree with point on the bad placement of the AC vents, I believe it would be better on the ceiling. I also feel that the rear AC vents are not that strong.
Personally, I don't regret my purchase decision since safety was the priority. The IIHS gives the current gen Odyssey a Top Safety Pick rating. On the other hand, the current gen Toyota Sienna is still on a decade old platform. I believe the upcoming Sienna might be worth considering since I believe it's likely to do well in IIHS testing. Also, Toyota didn't offer Android Auto at the time and driver assist features came at a higher price premium than on the Odyssey. Though in Toyota's favor, their Sienna is probably more reliable especially with their dual injector PFI GDI engine design that is resistant to intake valve buildup.
Thanks for watching and for the well thought out and detailed comment. I think the odyssey is still a good choice and a better value in the lower trims, the Elite trim is a waste. Thanks
I have Honda Accord V6 2012 with VCM which will switch from 6 to 3 cylinders. After 10K, I have to replace both catalytic converters as they were fouled up. Usually they last forever. The issue is the cylinder rings of the back three cylinder leaks and allow engine oil burns thru the exhaust pipe and you will lose the engine oil 1 qt after 2K miles. Honda knows that and had a recall. After the fix, no oil consumption but I still paid 2K to replace the catalytic converter.
We have a 2020 less 1900 miles and radio already crackles, Bluetooth is intermittent, DVD player doesn't want to play no more, and even better.... the radio literally just went out black screen in the front smdh.... and some of the complaints from this video are very valid. These companies are getting over with sloppy products that are not cheap
Yeah the quality is not there!
I have a 2021 odyssey touring. . . and it's been nothing but trouble. Mine shifts into neutral and sport, and it started itself in the service drive at Honda and they aren't admitting there's any trouble. Shifting into Park while driving at 45???? I would have lemon lawed that thing fast. That's a huge safety concern! Problem is, getting American Honda to care and actually take responsibility.
Yeah it has been crazy dealing with this, Honda NA hasn’t been much help either! I’m glad I was able to sell it a few months ago
The v6 hasn’t changed since 94 lol and they put it in a 5000lb vehicle we just bought a 2021 odyssey touring we love it
Yeah the engine needs to be updated
Damn. I just bought the elite 2022 today. Will keep these things in mind.
It will probably be a good vehicle for you.
I'm glad I didn't get an Elite. I wrote a very bad evaluation on Edmonds last year about my 2019 EX.
I had a 2016 which I loved, I thought the 2019 would be better with the 9spd transmission. Mileage is great features suck. You must be short. My 2016 EX I could open the rear door and walk under it, the 2019 I hit my head and have to duck to walk under the tailgate.
Great video. Honda is losing ground.
Thanks for sharing your experience.