1:53:41 Soul notes that the Pokémon Company promotes Indigo Disk DLC & states "such a troll" bc the Pokémon Company used Kalos starters in their promotion. Dusty then replies, "what if we're going back to Kalos"... this comment is 2 days after Pokémon Day 2024 & the reveal of PLZ-A.
Sylveon is the perfect embodiment of the Fairy type. It’s cute, pink, and “feminine”, but also has horrifying ribbons tentacles made out of flesh. Checks both of the boxes. Perfect design.
41:00 I think I get what Dusty’s saying about Delphox, and I agree. It looks encumbered by its own outfit. The fox itself is so slim compared to all the flowy elements that it looks like it’d get tangled up in its giant ears and sleeves and tail and dress when it tries to walk
Your tier lists are always enjoyable because it's refreshing to hear other fans' opinions! That being said, HARD disagree on Sylveon's placement. One of my top 3 Eeveelutions, up there with Espeon and Umbreon. When they first revealed it along with the Fairy-type back in 2013, I knew that it was instantly going onto my team. It's the textbook image of what a Fairy-type would look like! Super strong too. Just wish it was faster! Keep up the great content, you three! Looking forward to more and hearing Soul just absolutely destroy some of the mons coming up in later gens ROFL
That stung when ya'll was talking that smack about Sylveon. I love it. Dusty brought up an interesting point though. What is the fairy type? I've always thought the type was based around charm, and being enchanting.
Dusty With His "It's so Cute Line” 18:19 Dusty With His “So Cute Line” 19:27 Dusty With His “He's Cute Line” 24:15 Dusty With His “It's Really Cute” Line 46:50 Dusty With His “This is So Cute Line” 46:59 Dusty With His “This is so Cute, Lumi Line” 47:10 Lumi is Crushed Inside - 48:59 The Collective Response of Cute - 49:59 Dusty With His “It's kinda cute, Really Cute Line” 52:48 Lumi Podcast Reminder to Play Pokemon Snap 53:30 Dusty with his “It's Really Cute Line” 53:45 Dusty Calls me out for exactly what I am doing now 54:00 Soul disagrees 54:19 Dusty With His Cute Litleo 54:35 Dusty With His “This is so Cute Line” 55:00 Dusty With His “It's So Cute Line still about Litleo” 55:09 Dusty Converts Lumi into the Cute Cult and Soul disapproves - 57:45 Soul hates face lines - 58:15 Dusty Realizes what he's done with His Cute Lines - 59:15 Lumi is advocating that I approve of violence - 59:20 Don't keep scrolling on Florges - 1:00:00 Dusty Goes Beyond the word Cute - 1:01:35 Dusty Calls Skiddo the Devil's Spawn but then still manages to say the line “It's Kind of Cute” 1:02:00 Espurr is Ben Sharpio - 1:09:00 Dusty With His Line “Cute, Perfect” 1:20:00 Aromatisse is the Waifu Mon - 1:22:00 Dusty with his “That is Kind of Cute Line” 1:23:00 Dusty disturbs the force - 1:25:00 Dusty with his “Inkay is honestly really cute” 1:26:59 Dusty with his “He's Cute line” - 1:27:55 Dusty with his “He's so Cute Line” - 1:36:00 Dusty with his “This is so Cute Line” - 1:40:00 Dusty is just trolling now with his “It's cute lines” - 1:42:59 Dusty repeats his cute line - 1:43:00 The Horror that is Slyveon? - 1:45:00 Soul says his line - 1:48:00 Dusty with his “It's so cute” - 1:50:00 Dusty continues his cute line streak 1:51:59 Lumi disappointed in Soul - 1:56:00 Dusty with his “Goodra is cute line” - 1:56:25 Lumi says his line - 1:57:00 The Goodra Debate - 1:57:45 Dusty Says Goodra Has Mewtwo Hips - 1:58:00 Dusty says Bergmite is Cute - 2:05:00 Epsy JuJu Shoutout - 2:06:00 Noivy Shoutout - 2:07:00 Lumi says his line - 2:09:00 This is Lumi - 2:09:30 Dusty hits us with the “It's cute line” again - 2:16:59 Volcanion is a country boy - 2:20:00 Chef's Kisses - 2:24:00
The Hawlucha & Sylveon slander is real in this one. Other than that though, I found it really funny how Soul was talkin' all that smack at the beginning, but despite his best efforts, I'm pretty sure this is their best performing generation.
I wasn’t a huge Sylveon person until in PLA, I found the smallest Eevee, nicknamed him Tiny, and evolved him into Sylveon. Tiny was so powerful and saved me in the final fight of the game, when all seemed lost (So glad I recorded that gameplay; it’s legit INSANE!). Tiny is on my canon team now, and he forever holds a spot in my heart. 💖
@@CaylasCapsule thank you! I'm going to check this out. I love this battle, & just the image of Tiny standing fearless... reminds me of the best dog I ever had. Dolly was 8lbs thought she was 80lbs.
I think people expect male berserkery looking designs for fire starters and Delphox was a female witch looking design therefore it was hated so much. I love Delphox and deservers same tier as the other 2 starters
Hey boys, I'm enjoying the video and I just got to the bit about how you love all the Vivillon forms 52:51 and guess what! Every area in New Pokemon Snap has a different form to find! That's right this is a plug to get Dusty and Soul to play my favorite game of all time. EDIT: I swear to God I paused the video and wrote the above then I unpaused and Lumi said what I wrote! Now you have to play that's too freaking much!
The very beginning of the video I was laughing so hard about his rant on Quality over Quantity, and how gens 6 & 4 are the worst in his opinion, then by the end of the video everything is in A tier.
I love these ranking videos Only criticism i have is to soulsilverart, he dont even know pokemons names, his criticims of why he doesnt like certain pokemon are lame af, he doesnt seem like a true pokemon fan honeslty but just my opinion.
I more or less disagree with there being no post game in Kalos. There was the Battle Chateau and Hotel Richisimme, and Sushi High Roller. If you're into battling and making money, you could battle and fill out food orders at Hotel Richisimme. And you can grow berries, battle the bugs that come to eat the berries, water and care for the berries, get a bountiful harvest of berries, and start your garden all over again. Or you can spin in a circle for ten hours, being bored and uncreative. I prefer to travel the region at my leisure and explore to my heart's content. ❤️💛🗼🏝️🌱🍃
I genuinely don't understand this whole rule 34 thing with Braixen. It doesn't look tidy enough, it's super dirty, super messy, and it's nowhere near as elegant and beautiful as Gardevoir or even Mewtwo. Just because it's got a fox tail, which we all know where it's stuck into?
I always enjoy how y’all’s personalities always balance out and it makes for entertaining Pokémon discussions because everyone’s so distinct in their approach to the opinions 😭 the Pokémon powerful girls
Why y'all want more new pokemon? You want even more power creep? You want your old favorites to go completely forgotten? I usually want better mechanics in each new generation, not new designs
The problem with Delphox I've always had is it was truly the start of the trend of one Pokemon starter ending up being furry bait which is why I think it's a bad design. That and it's too humanoid in appearance.
I love how Lumi misheard or miscounted Soul‘s points and does math wrong on the first Pokémon immediately after saying their going to be sure to do the math correctly this time! lol. Infinitely entertaining, happy to keep listening, working my way through tier lists from beginning to end. ❤
I have four of your podcasts lined up for watch later but I had to watch this one as soon as it came out. Love the opinions and especially the chaos. Keep it up. More tier lists❤
Oh nice! Glad I caught this early. Gen 6 if we're looking purely at the designs themselves is my no. 1 generation. Shoutout specifically to Aegislash & it's line; maybe not the perfect pokemon, but definitely a flawlessly executed design imo.
Chespin's line os really good to use in the Kalos region. Then you get Charmander to get Charizard and you get a good Water type to fit things in and its a good combo.
(In Usual Fashion): Here's my Top 12 All-Time Fave Gen 6 Pokémon: 1. Noivern Line and Greninja Line 2. Talonflame Line 3. Aegislash Line 4. Gogoat Line 5. Tyrantrum Line 6. Goodra Line 7. Chespin, Sylveon and Pancham 8. Trevenant Line and Clauncher Line 9. Florges Line 10. Pyroar Line 11. Barbaracle Line and Bergmite 12. Meowstic Line (Female Variant), Fennekin and Vivillon Line
I'd always heard that opinion that Kalos gave us few new pokemon, but all the designs are solid, some called it the best generations design-wise. And I had agreed with that statement not being able to remember a single Kalos pokemon that disturbs me. But one day I was playing in the comment section (or maybe it was on then-Twitter) and suddenly decided to count all the fully evolved pokemon I like for each generation. Turned out, in Kalos there were only two: Mega Charizard Y, Mega Mewtwo Y. Than I included pokemon with ok designs that I liked stat- and lore-wise: just Aegislash😂. So, Kalos was pretty bad.
I was the exact opposite. I didn't give Kalos the time of day until last year when I tiered them against every generation just like this. That's when I realized Kalos is fucking baller when you get past the starters.😊
I love that Kalos starters make a Fighting-Psychic-Dark trio, but I hate Greninja cos I don't like both the ninja theme and its overpopularity. Take away one of those two things - and I'll be fine with Greninja
Hello there Bois! Bout to watch this ABSOLutely non-controversial tierlist video! Honest to Arceus, if Helioptile isn't S tier🔫 X was my first mainline game and i had lot's of fun. Before i only had spin-offs, the anime and merch to go off of (and on a veeery rare occasion when i was a wee lil' goblin i yoinked my sisters ds with pearl to test how it feels to play a game like it, (she never willingy allowed me when honestly asking) but i copied her mons onto my My Pokemon Ranch and Pokemon Battle revolution). And although skipping gen 8 for cringe reasons, i've been here now ever since. I got my first i think-full-odds shiny accidetnally bred in it. Ma' baby boy Noibat who's name i can't still decide on. 🦇💚 For some reason, i developed an obsession with frogadier through the anime and i think it's jsut because the german voice actor did a subjectively very cool job. And Amphizel sounds neat in general. - i said this in part because i was excited to see what your opinions gonna be and i'm glad to ehar you like him too ^^ You guys intorducing math to this and it's ONLY 2 and half hours long?! Impressive! C Tier huh? Welp, looks like none of you are gonna be invited to my birthday party!
Some of these takes were actually killing me. Spewpa, Skrelp line & 3rd stage Kalos Starters r too high. Pyroar's in A/B when it's 1 of the most disappointing considering that it's the 1st true lion🦁 design. Couldn't stand Braxien, Goodra & Sylveon slander. So many disagreements (more than usual), but it's all well & good opinions 🙂
@@malmasterson3890 I haven't heard anybody talk about Spewpa so passionately b4. I guess I don't hear ppl talk about it period cuz it's 1 of the more forgettable mid stage. It's not even memorable & standout amongst other cocoons in Pkmn. It just looks like a Scatterbug covered in its silk & confetti to make it appear different when it's not.
@lipika2841 I get where you're coming from, but there's plenty of worse ones imo; a lot of middle stages in gens 5 & 9 are pretty worthless for example. I think pokemon has too many in general, but I always liked Spewpa for it's in game animations & most people I've seen think it's cool.
Great list lads! It's hilarious that you've added the maths to appease listeners. I get a kick out of you trying to justify the balancing. I mean after all, they're you're perspectives at the end of the day. Also, kinda feel like Soul is subtly pushing for a Digimon tier list?
1:39:35 Lumi was just so happy then Dusty just changed his mind about Tyrantrum being in S Tier. Lumi went:😃😕😑🤨 Like he was so disappointed in Dusty but was still ust to him doing this all the time.😂
It is a smaller amount of dex numbers added, but it's not that much of a smaller number of new designs. There's no sense not including Megas when talking about "pokemon added in generation 6"
Delphox is amazing yall are jist hating. Dusty literally has no valid opinion as to why he doesn't like it, also dusty you and your ugly chesnaught are uninspired😂😂. The sugimori art is what honestly ruined her because any other position looks so cool, i love how it functions in unite and i just love everything about it
I've been wanting to play X and Y ever since the games were announced and even more because of Tyrantrum. Never played them because I could never afford a 3DS/DS so 10 years later my brother let me borrow his 3DS that was gifted to him and months after my best friend sent me a copy of X they found for my birthday. The game is so good already and I just got the Tyrantrum the other day I've always wanted for 10 years 😃
...i like the math seriousness, But you could skip the dividing by just typing the ranges of combined rankings next to each tier name, so you only gotta add them lol
I so agree with Dusty on 3D models feeling like how imagine pokemon in my mind. I remember quitting playing Y during my first ever playthrough because of visual overload. It was super weird after getting used to mainly using my imagination and not paying too much attention to the actual graphics. But, gotta be honest, the first time Pokémon felt completely real to me was Scarlet and Violet. Not even Sword and Shield, because of all the dummy cities with like 3 accessable buildings and the rest being just a decoration. And the Wild Area was a little empty. Though I still love it so much.
Not gonna lie I grinded the beginning of this game until I evolved my Fennekin into Braixen before the first gym and then put it down and never touched it again 😂 never even got a badge. All I wanted was Braixen and then I felt fully accomplished. I think it's time I go back and revisit Kalos 🤔
That's how I was with Chespin. Honestly the starters made me think this gen was a lot worse than it was, but then I actually made a tier list last year for all of them and realized how baller this dex is.
Bro yall failed me with the Sylveon placement. Sylveon is the best it's so cute and fierce at the same time i love it so much and you guys just havebbad taste
What if all mega evolution was is it ripping the DNA from past paradox versions and future paradox versions of the Pokemon. That's why it's symbol looks like a DNA strand
I’m so disappointed with your takes on Aromatisse… while I do want a poison/dark variant plague doctor theme for both you have to appreciate them for what they are. Spritzee is a perfume bottle and Aromatisse is a burlesque can-can dancer known for their over use of perfume.
"A lizard dragon?!" 😅🙃 If nothing else amid this awesome episode, allowing me to better learn each of your personalities so much more, that right there nudges me to go and experience more of the tier list episodes, despite I am honestly now a bit nervous to.. lol
@@HiddenPowerPodcast Controversy is kind of a guilty pleasure of mine.. lol It does help stir up conversation, and communication helps create stronger connections. Y'all cannot be cancelled. 🚀🙏🏾
I understand it you guys opinon but come on Sylevon is amazing one of the best eevee evolutions. I don't get why you guys hate it so much. Its better than some of the kalos pokemon you put higher.
I've finally caught up on your excellent tier lists! You guys have been a blast to watch! I can't wait to see what you guys thought about the Alolan and Galarean pokemon!
I like XY. I just feels like it needed more. Like it was unfinished. Every pokemon shouldve had a mega, not just the favorites (and Audino). We needed a Z version to wrap things up. I feel like the Zygarde collection thing in Sun and Moon was remnants of what shouldve been in Z version. Also, to this day, im still not sure about Fairy type. I think i wouldve liked a Light type instead and it kinda upsets me that its not likely we are ever getting a light type because Fairy already fills that role.
@JamieAlexander18 im curious, whats your reasoning? Like i can understand legendaries and psuedo legendaries not needing megas because they are already strong but why not others? Especially those that arent realy viable otherwise. What i liked about dynamax and z moves, was that all pokemon had access to it. What i didnt like about megas, was that only roughly 30ish pokemon could access it. But it made me want to actually use pokemon like Beedrill and Pidgeot on semi competitive teams. How would you fix the mega gimmick? What makes you feel like its bad?
@JamieAlexander18 totally agree with the first two points. I personally liked megas, so i would like to see it expanded. Possibly changed to make it a little less OP, like how Dynamax is only for 3 turns. Something like that. Since pseudos already have megas, i think it would only be fair to just give it to all of them at this point. Kinda the same with legendaries, but be very selective with them. Like no reason Articuno and Suicune couldnt get a mega. Their bases stats are lower then pseudos.
Ok I hate the math thing go back to how you originally were doing it!! chespin and fennekin deserve A!! Also quilladinn is one of the worst designed pokemon ever. Also Braixen is easily one of the best mid stage starters ever, if you watch the anime you would understand how elegant and beautiful it is. Also dusty is a misogynists like no cap
X and y marked the return of ppkemon for me after platinum I dropped pokemon completely missed Gen 5 but x and y was my sophomore year of high school great time. Gen 6 is the best Gen in my opinion
Soul, that's crossing the line talking about barney. Say what you want about the its a man pokemon. But leave barney alone. Lol I'm kidding. Keep up the hot takes
When gen 6 was announced… Chespin and Froakie were my favorite stage 1 starters of all gens… but in my opinion when the evos got leaked Chesnaught took the crown and still holds it for the worst final stage. I think Chesnaught, Intelleon, and Cinderace are the worst looking final stage starters. But that’s just me.
I don't get Aromat...iss? -tice? hate. It's a bad*ss plague doctor, a perfect Halloween pokemon. It's s*xy in a creepy way, like a per*erted old woman like Nastina from the anime.
the way to describe fairy type at best is like the emotion specifically love becuz weirdly enough love is the most prominent emotion and is being used as an elemental the most like the element of love as a whole where its not girlie stuff more so like the emotion itself like hearts and care and the gentleness of it. like how ghost is like the element of spirit like the spiritiual aspects and connection
@@micabryant4513 i mean theres a reason it has the secondary dark type like 2 contrasting types both beautiful and ugly in their own realm. Like love and darkness can be used for good but also be use for evil like grimmsnarl is a good example like its like its possess powers came from good but also is amplified by the darkness or evil type you could say
Seems pretty accurate to me. I think is moreso that everything ends up crammed in the middle a lot cause that's just the nature of opposing positions. This one makes perfect sense to me, I used to be the same as Soul almost where I didn't even really think about Gen 6 as a good dex until I actually made my own tier list for each Gen in one go. That made me realize this dex slaps hard.
@@HiddenPowerPodcast i think I get it. Some pokemon designs lean heavily towards one or another gender. Kind of like MMY looks hella feminine, Rhydon is super masculine, and Alakazam makes NO SENSE as a female.
1:53:41 Soul notes that the Pokémon Company promotes Indigo Disk DLC & states "such a troll" bc the Pokémon Company used Kalos starters in their promotion. Dusty then replies, "what if we're going back to Kalos"... this comment is 2 days after Pokémon Day 2024 & the reveal of PLZ-A.
1:54:18 DustyGogoat predicted the future.
Sylveon is the perfect embodiment of the Fairy type. It’s cute, pink, and “feminine”, but also has horrifying ribbons tentacles made out of flesh. Checks both of the boxes. Perfect design.
Luckily someone has taste unlike these people
41:00 I think I get what Dusty’s saying about Delphox, and I agree. It looks encumbered by its own outfit. The fox itself is so slim compared to all the flowy elements that it looks like it’d get tangled up in its giant ears and sleeves and tail and dress when it tries to walk
Soul you are F tier. Lumi is B and dusty is C. My poor sylveon, luckily majority of the community agrees that it is amazing
Sylveon is my second favorite pokemon, I'm so grateful for the fairy type introduction ❤
Your tier lists are always enjoyable because it's refreshing to hear other fans' opinions! That being said, HARD disagree on Sylveon's placement. One of my top 3 Eeveelutions, up there with Espeon and Umbreon.
When they first revealed it along with the Fairy-type back in 2013, I knew that it was instantly going onto my team. It's the textbook image of what a Fairy-type would look like! Super strong too. Just wish it was faster!
Keep up the great content, you three! Looking forward to more and hearing Soul just absolutely destroy some of the mons coming up in later gens ROFL
That stung when ya'll was talking that smack about Sylveon. I love it. Dusty brought up an interesting point though. What is the fairy type? I've always thought the type was based around charm, and being enchanting.
Dusty With His "It's so Cute Line” 18:19
Dusty With His “So Cute Line” 19:27
Dusty With His “He's Cute Line” 24:15
Dusty With His “It's Really Cute” Line 46:50
Dusty With His “This is So Cute Line” 46:59
Dusty With His “This is so Cute, Lumi Line” 47:10
Lumi is Crushed Inside - 48:59
The Collective Response of Cute - 49:59
Dusty With His “It's kinda cute, Really Cute Line” 52:48
Lumi Podcast Reminder to Play Pokemon Snap 53:30
Dusty with his “It's Really Cute Line” 53:45
Dusty Calls me out for exactly what I am doing now 54:00
Soul disagrees 54:19
Dusty With His Cute Litleo 54:35
Dusty With His “This is so Cute Line” 55:00
Dusty With His “It's So Cute Line still about Litleo” 55:09
Dusty Converts Lumi into the Cute Cult and Soul disapproves - 57:45
Soul hates face lines - 58:15
Dusty Realizes what he's done with His Cute Lines - 59:15
Lumi is advocating that I approve of violence - 59:20
Don't keep scrolling on Florges - 1:00:00
Dusty Goes Beyond the word Cute - 1:01:35
Dusty Calls Skiddo the Devil's Spawn but then still manages to say the line “It's Kind of Cute” 1:02:00
Espurr is Ben Sharpio - 1:09:00
Dusty With His Line “Cute, Perfect” 1:20:00
Aromatisse is the Waifu Mon - 1:22:00
Dusty with his “That is Kind of Cute Line” 1:23:00
Dusty disturbs the force - 1:25:00
Dusty with his “Inkay is honestly really cute” 1:26:59
Dusty with his “He's Cute line” - 1:27:55
Dusty with his “He's so Cute Line” - 1:36:00
Dusty with his “This is so Cute Line” - 1:40:00
Dusty is just trolling now with his “It's cute lines” - 1:42:59
Dusty repeats his cute line - 1:43:00
The Horror that is Slyveon? - 1:45:00
Soul says his line - 1:48:00
Dusty with his “It's so cute” - 1:50:00
Dusty continues his cute line streak 1:51:59
Lumi disappointed in Soul - 1:56:00
Dusty with his “Goodra is cute line” - 1:56:25
Lumi says his line - 1:57:00
The Goodra Debate - 1:57:45
Dusty Says Goodra Has Mewtwo Hips - 1:58:00
Dusty says Bergmite is Cute - 2:05:00
Epsy JuJu Shoutout - 2:06:00
Noivy Shoutout - 2:07:00
Lumi says his line - 2:09:00
This is Lumi - 2:09:30
Dusty hits us with the “It's cute line” again - 2:16:59
Volcanion is a country boy - 2:20:00
Chef's Kisses - 2:24:00
The Hawlucha & Sylveon slander is real in this one. Other than that though, I found it really funny how Soul was talkin' all that smack at the beginning, but despite his best efforts, I'm pretty sure this is their best performing generation.
Omfg, that's the best comment. How did I not see you previously?
@ldmtag I'll be here every episode and I was on one before
This is amazing!
Damn this is a sad comment... Idgaf if it was easy or fun for you...
historian tendency put it to better use lol
I wasn’t a huge Sylveon person until in PLA, I found the smallest Eevee, nicknamed him Tiny, and evolved him into Sylveon. Tiny was so powerful and saved me in the final fight of the game, when all seemed lost (So glad I recorded that gameplay; it’s legit INSANE!). Tiny is on my canon team now, and he forever holds a spot in my heart. 💖
something similar happened to me with a Sylveon while playing Pokémon Sun! ^^
This is awesome. Is the footage uploaded anywhere? I'm intrigued!
@@SEH_ARTGOLD Yup! It’s in my PLA playlist on my channel. The postgame video has Tiny fighting Giratina. 😊
@@CaylasCapsule thank you! I'm going to check this out. I love this battle, & just the image of Tiny standing fearless... reminds me of the best dog I ever had. Dolly was 8lbs thought she was 80lbs.
@@SEH_ARTGOLD Haha reminds me of my cat Powder. She’s the smallest cat I’ve ever seen, but her personality is ginormous! 😁
Who ever suggested numbers on the list please never suggest anything every again. 🤣. Terrible idea
I think people expect male berserkery looking designs for fire starters and Delphox was a female witch looking design therefore it was hated so much. I love Delphox and deservers same tier as the other 2 starters
Have always loved delphox. Its perfect. Never understood the hate 😅
And gen 6 designs were so good when they dropped. Tyrantrum honedge hawlucha>>>
Hey boys, I'm enjoying the video and I just got to the bit about how you love all the Vivillon forms 52:51 and guess what! Every area in New Pokemon Snap has a different form to find! That's right this is a plug to get Dusty and Soul to play my favorite game of all time.
EDIT: I swear to God I paused the video and wrote the above then I unpaused and Lumi said what I wrote! Now you have to play that's too freaking much!
Lumi's opinion was great like always....but Soul... he love to destroy...
The very beginning of the video I was laughing so hard about his rant on Quality over Quantity, and how gens 6 & 4 are the worst in his opinion, then by the end of the video everything is in A tier.
@micabryant4513 It's like a roll of the dice, he'll have one in five hot takes where he's kinda cookin'. Makes the podcast interesting though lol.
I love these ranking videos
Only criticism i have is to soulsilverart, he dont even know pokemons names, his criticims of why he doesnt like certain pokemon are lame af, he doesnt seem like a true pokemon fan honeslty but just my opinion.
Ten years since our last eevee lution is insane. We need a new pair at least in Gen 10.
100%
Greninja original model didnt work right. It didn't properly convey the speedy ninja. It seemed to bulky
The math breakdown is so comical. Its everytime you guys disagree on placement lumi has to explain how he came up with the answer
I more or less disagree with there being no post game in Kalos. There was the Battle Chateau and Hotel Richisimme, and Sushi High Roller. If you're into battling and making money, you could battle and fill out food orders at Hotel Richisimme. And you can grow berries, battle the bugs that come to eat the berries, water and care for the berries, get a bountiful harvest of berries, and start your garden all over again. Or you can spin in a circle for ten hours, being bored and uncreative. I prefer to travel the region at my leisure and explore to my heart's content. ❤️💛🗼🏝️🌱🍃
52:19 hearing Dusty say cannonize Eternal Flower days after Legends Z-A announcement hits different.
Bro we were on to something TELL YOUR FRIENDS
The number system doesn't really work because if you decide something is S you make thing its value is more than just one point above A.
New Gen 7 dex> new Gen 6 dex
Gen 8 and 9 are my favorite rosters
I have been a fan since day one
I genuinely don't understand this whole rule 34 thing with Braixen. It doesn't look tidy enough, it's super dirty, super messy, and it's nowhere near as elegant and beautiful as Gardevoir or even Mewtwo. Just because it's got a fox tail, which we all know where it's stuck into?
I always enjoy how y’all’s personalities always balance out and it makes for entertaining Pokémon discussions because everyone’s so distinct in their approach to the opinions 😭 the Pokémon powerful girls
I feel like this is the most fun I've seen y'all doing a ranking/tier episode 🤣
1:28:34 but does any npc give you a hint about how to evolve it???
Why y'all want more new pokemon? You want even more power creep? You want your old favorites to go completely forgotten? I usually want better mechanics in each new generation, not new designs
The problem with Delphox I've always had is it was truly the start of the trend of one Pokemon starter ending up being furry bait which is why I think it's a bad design. That and it's too humanoid in appearance.
I love how Lumi misheard or miscounted Soul‘s points and does math wrong on the first Pokémon immediately after saying their going to be sure to do the math correctly this time! lol. Infinitely entertaining, happy to keep listening, working my way through tier lists from beginning to end. ❤
Is there like a thing where people can fund New Snap for Dusty yet? With extra goals that would force him to play it on stream or something lol
I have four of your podcasts lined up for watch later but I had to watch this one as soon as it came out. Love the opinions and especially the chaos. Keep it up. More tier lists❤
Oh nice! Glad I caught this early. Gen 6 if we're looking purely at the designs themselves is my no. 1 generation. Shoutout specifically to Aegislash & it's line; maybe not the perfect pokemon, but definitely a flawlessly executed design imo.
Chespin's line os really good to use in the Kalos region. Then you get Charmander to get Charizard and you get a good Water type to fit things in and its a good combo.
(In Usual Fashion):
Here's my Top 12 All-Time Fave Gen 6 Pokémon:
1. Noivern Line and Greninja Line
2. Talonflame Line
3. Aegislash Line
4. Gogoat Line
5. Tyrantrum Line
6. Goodra Line
7. Chespin, Sylveon and Pancham
8. Trevenant Line and Clauncher Line
9. Florges Line
10. Pyroar Line
11. Barbaracle Line and Bergmite
12. Meowstic Line (Female Variant), Fennekin and Vivillon Line
I'd always heard that opinion that Kalos gave us few new pokemon, but all the designs are solid, some called it the best generations design-wise. And I had agreed with that statement not being able to remember a single Kalos pokemon that disturbs me.
But one day I was playing in the comment section (or maybe it was on then-Twitter) and suddenly decided to count all the fully evolved pokemon I like for each generation. Turned out, in Kalos there were only two: Mega Charizard Y, Mega Mewtwo Y. Than I included pokemon with ok designs that I liked stat- and lore-wise: just Aegislash😂. So, Kalos was pretty bad.
Btw, I was wrong. Pangoro disturbs me. That mouth stick is so nasty🤢🤮
I was the exact opposite. I didn't give Kalos the time of day until last year when I tiered them against every generation just like this. That's when I realized Kalos is fucking baller when you get past the starters.😊
I love falling asleep to ur video's.
Barbaracle gets some appreciation, good.
I love that Kalos starters make a Fighting-Psychic-Dark trio, but I hate Greninja cos I don't like both the ninja theme and its overpopularity. Take away one of those two things - and I'll be fine with Greninja
It only got REALLY popular thnx to the anime
I don't remember what I said, but I would never call Soul "the balancing force"😅
Hello there Bois!
Bout to watch this ABSOLutely non-controversial tierlist video!
Honest to Arceus, if Helioptile isn't S tier🔫
X was my first mainline game and i had lot's of fun.
Before i only had spin-offs, the anime and merch to go off of (and on a veeery rare occasion when i was a wee lil' goblin i yoinked my sisters ds with pearl to test how it feels to play a game like it, (she never willingy allowed me when honestly asking) but i copied her mons onto my My Pokemon Ranch and Pokemon Battle revolution). And although skipping gen 8 for cringe reasons, i've been here now ever since.
I got my first i think-full-odds shiny accidetnally bred in it. Ma' baby boy Noibat who's name i can't still decide on. 🦇💚
For some reason, i developed an obsession with frogadier through the anime and i think it's jsut because the german voice actor did a subjectively very cool job. And Amphizel sounds neat in general.
- i said this in part because i was excited to see what your opinions gonna be and i'm glad to ehar you like him too ^^
You guys intorducing math to this and it's ONLY 2 and half hours long?! Impressive!
C Tier huh? Welp, looks like none of you are gonna be invited to my birthday party!
Some of these takes were actually killing me. Spewpa, Skrelp line & 3rd stage Kalos Starters r too high. Pyroar's in A/B when it's 1 of the most disappointing considering that it's the 1st true lion🦁 design. Couldn't stand Braxien, Goodra & Sylveon slander. So many disagreements (more than usual), but it's all well & good opinions 🙂
I don't know about S tier, but Spewpa is really cool for a middle stage, I gave it a high A. Other than that though I getcha.
@@malmasterson3890 I haven't heard anybody talk about Spewpa so passionately b4. I guess I don't hear ppl talk about it period cuz it's 1 of the more forgettable mid stage. It's not even memorable & standout amongst other cocoons in Pkmn. It just looks like a Scatterbug covered in its silk & confetti to make it appear different when it's not.
@lipika2841 I get where you're coming from, but there's plenty of worse ones imo; a lot of middle stages in gens 5 & 9 are pretty worthless for example. I think pokemon has too many in general, but I always liked Spewpa for it's in game animations & most people I've seen think it's cool.
I love the math being added to the tier list. Guaranteed correct placement now.
Great list lads! It's hilarious that you've added the maths to appease listeners. I get a kick out of you trying to justify the balancing. I mean after all, they're you're perspectives at the end of the day.
Also, kinda feel like Soul is subtly pushing for a Digimon tier list?
1:39:35 Lumi was just so happy then Dusty just changed his mind about Tyrantrum being in S Tier.
Lumi went:😃😕😑🤨
Like he was so disappointed in Dusty but was still ust to him doing this all the time.😂
It is a smaller amount of dex numbers added, but it's not that much of a smaller number of new designs.
There's no sense not including Megas when talking about "pokemon added in generation 6"
Quilladin is one of the worst middle stages, mascot man is real.
It's a tear in the tapestry of gen 6. I really hate it lol.
Tyrantrum and Goodra best Pokemon of Kalos!
Delphox is amazing yall are jist hating. Dusty literally has no valid opinion as to why he doesn't like it, also dusty you and your ugly chesnaught are uninspired😂😂. The sugimori art is what honestly ruined her because any other position looks so cool, i love how it functions in unite and i just love everything about it
Dusty: "things are blurry cause it's usually like a leak, so I just click it"
LMAO
Noivern S Let’s GOOOO! Dusty thank for seeing the beauty, Soul i respect liking Noibat more ✨
I've been wanting to play X and Y ever since the games were announced and even more because of Tyrantrum. Never played them because I could never afford a 3DS/DS so 10 years later my brother let me borrow his 3DS that was gifted to him and months after my best friend sent me a copy of X they found for my birthday. The game is so good already and I just got the Tyrantrum the other day I've always wanted for 10 years 😃
...i like the math seriousness,
But you could skip the dividing by just typing the ranges of combined rankings next to each tier name, so you only gotta add them lol
I so agree with Dusty on 3D models feeling like how imagine pokemon in my mind. I remember quitting playing Y during my first ever playthrough because of visual overload. It was super weird after getting used to mainly using my imagination and not paying too much attention to the actual graphics. But, gotta be honest, the first time Pokémon felt completely real to me was Scarlet and Violet. Not even Sword and Shield, because of all the dummy cities with like 3 accessable buildings and the rest being just a decoration. And the Wild Area was a little empty. Though I still love it so much.
Not gonna lie I grinded the beginning of this game until I evolved my Fennekin into Braixen before the first gym and then put it down and never touched it again 😂 never even got a badge. All I wanted was Braixen and then I felt fully accomplished. I think it's time I go back and revisit Kalos 🤔
Oh my god the comparison to the Renamon line is perfect. I dunno how I never connected the two. Edit: that fuckin safe search bit was comical 😂😂😂
COURTNEY NOOOOO. Your homework is to play and FINISH a Kalos game 😂
@@lumiosepost hahahah YES SIR! 🫡 just gotta get a copy of White again... Maybe I'll finish before Dusty gets to snap 🤣
That's how I was with Chespin. Honestly the starters made me think this gen was a lot worse than it was, but then I actually made a tier list last year for all of them and realized how baller this dex is.
Bro yall failed me with the Sylveon placement. Sylveon is the best it's so cute and fierce at the same time i love it so much and you guys just havebbad taste
Sorry! :P
@@HiddenPowerPodcast omg, I actually love you guys so much your takes make me laugh so hard
Can I use "Power Zoid Ranger" in future works?
Soul said Vulpix doesn't have anything there but like...it's totally got that hair curl in almost exactly the same spot
I’m totally with soul on lapras idk why those curly ears don’t look right
Why is one of you missing from the hidden power logo banner from the video and which one is it 😂✨
The dusty miss clicks are crack up
I think this is the most Lumiose and Soul agreed 😂
Gen 6 is the only Gen that I still have a strong dislike to this day that I had for it when it came out.
What if all mega evolution was is it ripping the DNA from past paradox versions and future paradox versions of the Pokemon. That's why it's symbol looks like a DNA strand
Boldest take I’ve seen yet sticking sylveon where you have it and I am here for it
I’m so disappointed with your takes on Aromatisse… while I do want a poison/dark variant plague doctor theme for both you have to appreciate them for what they are. Spritzee is a perfume bottle and Aromatisse is a burlesque can-can dancer known for their over use of perfume.
"A lizard dragon?!" 😅🙃
If nothing else amid this awesome episode, allowing me to better learn each of your personalities so much more, that right there nudges me to go and experience more of the tier list episodes, despite I am honestly now a bit nervous to.. lol
I think this one is our most controversial lol
@@HiddenPowerPodcast Controversy is kind of a guilty pleasure of mine.. lol It does help stir up conversation, and communication helps create stronger connections. Y'all cannot be cancelled. 🚀🙏🏾
Delphox might look immobile as an action figure cuz it’s legs are literally a robe
I understand it you guys opinon but come on Sylevon is amazing one of the best eevee evolutions. I don't get why you guys hate it so much. Its better than some of the kalos pokemon you put higher.
Gen 6 was definitely something. Really hope we get to see king AZ again at some point
I've finally caught up on your excellent tier lists! You guys have been a blast to watch! I can't wait to see what you guys thought about the Alolan and Galarean pokemon!
Guys, Rowlett is a reptile! As a bird it's a dinosaur, as a dinosaur it's archosaur, and as an archosaur it's a reptile. Rowlett is a reptile!
I like XY. I just feels like it needed more. Like it was unfinished.
Every pokemon shouldve had a mega, not just the favorites (and Audino).
We needed a Z version to wrap things up. I feel like the Zygarde collection thing in Sun and Moon was remnants of what shouldve been in Z version.
Also, to this day, im still not sure about Fairy type. I think i wouldve liked a Light type instead and it kinda upsets me that its not likely we are ever getting a light type because Fairy already fills that role.
@JamieAlexander18 im curious, whats your reasoning?
Like i can understand legendaries and psuedo legendaries not needing megas because they are already strong but why not others? Especially those that arent realy viable otherwise.
What i liked about dynamax and z moves, was that all pokemon had access to it.
What i didnt like about megas, was that only roughly 30ish pokemon could access it. But it made me want to actually use pokemon like Beedrill and Pidgeot on semi competitive teams.
How would you fix the mega gimmick? What makes you feel like its bad?
@JamieAlexander18 totally agree with the first two points.
I personally liked megas, so i would like to see it expanded. Possibly changed to make it a little less OP, like how Dynamax is only for 3 turns. Something like that.
Since pseudos already have megas, i think it would only be fair to just give it to all of them at this point. Kinda the same with legendaries, but be very selective with them.
Like no reason Articuno and Suicune couldnt get a mega. Their bases stats are lower then pseudos.
holy shit dusty r u a prophet??? 1:54:17
Ok I hate the math thing go back to how you originally were doing it!! chespin and fennekin deserve A!! Also quilladinn is one of the worst designed pokemon ever. Also Braixen is easily one of the best mid stage starters ever, if you watch the anime you would understand how elegant and beautiful it is. Also dusty is a misogynists like no cap
This was my favorite episode so far!
The taste of Dusty is always tricking😅
X and y marked the return of ppkemon for me after platinum I dropped pokemon completely missed Gen 5 but x and y was my sophomore year of high school great time. Gen 6 is the best Gen in my opinion
Best designs for sure I agree.
Great music too
Soul, that's crossing the line talking about barney. Say what you want about the its a man pokemon. But leave barney alone. Lol I'm kidding. Keep up the hot takes
Goodra S+ TIER
When gen 6 was announced… Chespin and Froakie were my favorite stage 1 starters of all gens… but in my opinion when the evos got leaked Chesnaught took the crown and still holds it for the worst final stage. I think Chesnaught, Intelleon, and Cinderace are the worst looking final stage starters. But that’s just me.
Diggersby not being S tier actually hurts me.
On THANKSGIVING!? fair
1. Florges
Soul: He has man shoes.
😂
Loved the tier list. No, mega's though?😭
For their own video 😉
I don't get Aromat...iss? -tice? hate. It's a bad*ss plague doctor, a perfect Halloween pokemon. It's s*xy in a creepy way, like a per*erted old woman like Nastina from the anime.
I’m noticing little by little that Soul is my spirit podcast member 😂 “which ugly Pokémon do you like?” None.
Espurr is this emoji: 😳
the way to describe fairy type at best is like the emotion specifically love becuz weirdly enough love is the most prominent emotion and is being used as an elemental the most like the element of love as a whole where its not girlie stuff more so like the emotion itself like hearts and care and the gentleness of it. like how ghost is like the element of spirit like the spiritiual aspects and connection
Love this explaination!
@@micabryant4513 i mean theres a reason it has the secondary dark type like 2 contrasting types both beautiful and ugly in their own realm. Like love and darkness can be used for good but also be use for evil like grimmsnarl is a good example like its like its possess powers came from good but also is amplified by the darkness or evil type you could say
Yessir mega evolution the best
With all due respect once you ranked chespin and finekin above froakie this list became invalid.
not putting the fossils in s is insane. if they put boobs and a dress on them soul would of put them in s.
Dusty talk your shit at the end. These tier lists don’t make sense when you don’t compare them as a whole
We’re learning as we go 😆
Seems pretty accurate to me. I think is moreso that everything ends up crammed in the middle a lot cause that's just the nature of opposing positions.
This one makes perfect sense to me, I used to be the same as Soul almost where I didn't even really think about Gen 6 as a good dex until I actually made my own tier list for each Gen in one go. That made me realize this dex slaps hard.
How are they not doin it the right way?
Yeah
Sylveon doesn't have the usual Eeveelution look that I associate the line with
Give us gen 7
It has been recorded! Just a matter of when it’ll come out… 👀
Umbreon S but Sylveon E kills me. Sexism in 2023😴
How is this sexism? Sylveon in Male & Female
What? Sexism how did that have to do with anything? It’s a flipping Pokémon with 50/50 gender 🌶
@@HiddenPowerPodcast i think I get it. Some pokemon designs lean heavily towards one or another gender. Kind of like MMY looks hella feminine, Rhydon is super masculine, and Alakazam makes NO SENSE as a female.
@@ldmtagI don't see how Rhydon is super masculine.
Damn soul is pretentious haha
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