Foundations looks honestly the exact same as any other core set I've seen in the past I think people just paid less attention to the amount of legends or commander staples printed in a set because they didn't care.
My main concern with Foundations is how powerful it is. Not that I really have a problem with power creep, but this stuff is going to be around for half a decade - who's going to play any 2-cost mana dorks when Llanowar Elf is always around? I fear they've backed themselves into *even more* power creep with these decisions.
@@kylekonop4801 when elvish mystic was in standard so were two mana manadroks and guess what, they both saw play you clearly dont know what you are talking about if you think this set is "powerful"
Every standard set has always had cards that were probably targeted at commander or modern. I think the difference is they used to be largely corner case cards that didnt wildly alter those formats regularly and people are tired of seeing "eternal formats" being so regularly disrupted.
My thoughts before Vince even got out of the intro: "wait, doesn't every set have big splashy cards better in commander and spells that scale for multiple opponents?"
@whaleofdarkness well now you’re just referring to cards from ye olden days, long before WotC had modern concepts of set design, limited design, etc. Honestly the first 5 years were really a frontier of figuring out what Magic even was and what was balanced. Just look at the best and worst cards from sets during those old days, they were very much still figuring things out.
I don’t know about the public discourse, but I personally am really excited for foundations, the first time I have really been excited for a new set since around 2020. When I look at foundations, its visuals, card design, the way it takes the general vibe of the magic IP seriously without many gags or cheap thrills, it brings me back to the old core sets. It reminds me of opening the packs that came in my intro deck and excitingly slotting the cool new dragon or angel or whatever into my 60 card unsleeved deck held together with a rubber band. It reminds of being a nerd at summer camp playing make-believe with dragons and wizards. It reminds me of everything that got me into magic in the first place. It might be a basic set, but that’s just because it is focusing, for the first time in a long time, on the core of the magic IP (letting the player choose between being angels, or dragons, or wizards, or vampires, etc.) rather than subverting it. It may come across as being for commander, but honestly I think it’s actually for casual players. Kitchen table magic. People forget that platinum angel wasn’t made for commander, it was made to be an exciting and interesting thing for casual players that might pique their interests enough to get them to want to get better. Foundations feels like the first set in a long time that cares about onboarding players to the magic IP, I hope it succeeds.
I think there are definitely cards in it pushed for Commander(Super stoked to build them too), but this set overall has me tempted to get back into Standard. It's been since the last return to Theros since I've played it.
Bolt Wave isn't counterplay to crystal barricade. It ignores it in a really unsatisfying way. Counterplay would be something like abrade. Bolt Wave just makes you feel like an idiot for playing crystal barricade, similar to protection made you feel dumb for playing that color.
The horror. Standard is so diverse and creative that it can be played it multiple formats. Commander was such a welcoming format, I even forget that constructed was just as fun. Jumpstart showed me that 60 card is great in its simplicity. We may need to address the 4 of vs singleton for the formats.
I think the legitimate criticism of design for commander is when that design comes at the cost of the competitive 1 v 1 formats. I'm just not seeing that here, at least nothing close to the contemporary sets being released all the time. Set reads as a reimagined core set for the modern game to me. 🤷 Genuinely cool idea but spiderman standard has me fully tapped out. I was a long standing hanger-onner of magic since the ancient historic era of Nemesis, and long past all my friends tapped out but this just isn't the game I loved anymore. Hope y'all continue to have fun playing in the future.
@@TruBoreDOM bolt weave with both out was more what I was implying. You can't run Obosh as companion though so it's definitely that "everything goes right" situation
To me as a person that prefers 60 card formats over Commander I can barely stomach more than a few commander games every couple of months I primarily play Commander for my boyfriend Scentsy loves Commander so much to me it is only a commander set when it is too week , weird care choices , and I guess it could depend on the themes but politely fuck anyone who thinks of Magic the Gathering foundations is a commander set this feels like a love letter to all of Magic the Gathering
This is the first video I've watched today that isn't about the US election. It's almost eerie to see the world still turning and regular videos in my RUclips feed, but it's a nice change of pace too lol
I think people saw the Muldrotha reprint and freaked out. We should be celebrating this set for being so standard focused and toning down on the commander stuff like making every mildly interesting creature legendary/
I play standard on Arena and commander in paper (there isn't a big standard scene in my area) and this set felt so on theme for standard that it's the first set I considered spending my money just on arena and not paper. This feels very much like a standard set, and it's honestly refreshing.
Foundations reminds me of when I first played Magic with the 2014 core set, and I am pretty hyped for this set recent sets (cowboys & Cluedo) have felt distant from
I’m finally buying into paper magic and dipping my toes into it. What has held me out was the fact that standard was NOT played much and the seeming return of it has me pretty excited. This foundations product really sounds great to me and pretty much was my tipping point for starting to get into the game for real. I have a hard time relating to the negativity around this product. It pretty much hits the nail on the head for what I was looking for.
The fact we have format to complain about is such a positive in itself! what other card game has the luxury to say "i don't like this format, i'll go play one of these 3 other ones i love that are supported instead"
@guildpact2056 I mean, dude is super rich, donated his salary feom his last presidancy back to the country and literally has no time in the day to also run a global realestate enterprise so his family does that for him, so... No?
9:19 But that's the point. I would say those cards were made for commander, but they wind up being strong standard cards. Made for commander cards wind up just increasing the power level of standard magic.
So Im a person who often complains, that cards are designed for commander. My complains started with March of the machines. What swings with the sentence "this is designed for commander..." is "these cards take up slots of cards, that could be refreshing for standart." It let a sour feeling in my mouth, when I looked at a new set and half of the rare+ cards werent usable in standart. However, I too firmly believe that foundation is pretty well designed for standart. Sadly I'll stop playing ince spiderman hits the format.
As a new Player looking to get into MtG, commander was my go to so far. But what I've seen from Foundations recently really makes me want to dip my feet into standard.
Literally the only reason I don't play standard is none of the LGS within a 2 hour drive from me offer standard on weekends it's just all commander. I work until 11pm every day. I can't make anything that's offered on weekdays :(
People saw Blasphemous Edict and immediately said “SEE IT IS JUST COMMANDER!!!” Soyjack pointing and everything. Then they went off and bought the product anyway. Except the people who pretend they play the game but don’t because they like to be included in discourse.
Vince you mentioned something about maybe making a video about how red and white came into their own identity via commander design. Here hoping you make that video. When you mentioned that it got me thinking about how much I'd grown to love red and white recently.
Tbh? When I say this, I mean it as a compliment. It shows off more strategy that I can use in a deck, or maybe I just like a legendary creature. Then again, pauper gets a HUGE boost from this set.
Wait, I know that "every set is for commander", but I actually didn't know that this arguement was going around. I looked Foundations up in EDREC and there is like 10 commanders in the set. I might be wrong, but ain't that low? Also the mythics and rares don't seem spicy to me. Is it a bad set for commander? No. Is it buy, buy, BUY! set for commander? Don't think so. So I am surprised that this is an arguement.
I play just about every format of Magic, the whole point of playing the card game is to enjoy it. If I spend all my life being angry about it, I won't enjoy the fun bits. :>
the only card that sticks out like a sore thumb and screams we just reprinted this for commander is muldrotha specially with the jump-start product coming alongside this why is he in the main set why not a special guest who knows? Looking forward to hearing this again when the spider-man set drops and has more legends then you can shake a stick at.
Boltwave is also templated in a way that doesn’t need players to click a target on Arena. This reduces the amount of slow, ropey play on that platform.
I mean, the line might be (is) a memetic oversimplification, but the number of legends (for instance) really is significantly higher than it would be if Commander were not an omnipresent concern. The number of cards in standard sets that don’t cut it in standard and have to find homes elsewhere hasn’t increased significantly, but it has been shifted heavily towards Commander.
I don't think it's a commander set. I think it is a horizon-esk set thtat will help justify an increase in power level, not to the extent of MH sets, but definitely heavily increase the power level of standard (which is just extended now)
It's funny, as someone who plays exclusively commander I was doing my list of singles I'd want from foundations and it's under 10 with 3-4 of them being staples I already have but hope to snatch a second copy at cheaper if it drops enough so yeah... not that commander-y compared to duckmourn and bloomburrow as far as I'm concerned
I think it'll have the same problem that core sets always do. It'll sell like crazy until people have what they want from it, and then it'll sit on shelves.
@@nkling02 I don't think there's an issue with a core set being always available, but not selling too much. New people should have access to this set. But I doubt Hasbro will agree. I'm betting this will be the only five year set.
@robmitchell3039 yes I agree, hasbro is doing this cash grab, get people In quick thing that NASCAR is also doing with its star wars cross over 23 car . Labeled as a darth vader star wars racecard and promoted by Hayden Christiansen. Fortnite and mortal kombat has been doing it for years
Vis a vis cards like Boltwave: That's not even a "Commander" design per se. It's *multiplayer* design. Commander is certainly the most popular multi-player format at the moment but it isn't, and never has been, the *only* multi-player format in Magic, so I feel like that's a reasonable distinction to make. Even within Commander products they've been trying to revitalize things like Planechase and Archenemy.
While there are some cards in Foundations that may find their way into Commander decks, I'd suggest checking out the LRRMTG Pre-prerelease video. This set feels like old-school Magic, like we played back in the day. Solid flavor, overall I'd call it a good set compared to some from the last 12-18 months. How about we give the set a month to settle into our playgroups before we start sounding the collective butt-trumpet of "It's all Commander, boo-hoo"? This is the first set in years that actually makes me want to buy a box to crack. Haven't done that since Mirage.
This seems way too aggro of a response to criticism that ultimately you know for a fact is 100% right. You know for sure which arguments from a multi-year discourse people are evoking when they roll their eyes and say "oh good standard is getting commander cards shoved into it again." Yes standard is at its best when its design space and set space is used for standard. Indisputable. But the catch is, that's also when commander is at its best. It was always a format for finding creative uses for cards that weren't intended for commander. You can't call people lazy while you're also insisting that every set needs commander cards printed into them that have a big gold foil stamp that says "hey stupid this is your new red staple" on it, that's the laziest thing in magic history, lazier even than netdecking because it cuts out the part where you at least used to look something up for a minute. Not only that but pretty much 100% of design mistakes in the modern era arise from trying to print commander power creep into other formats. And then what happens every single time? It gets banned, commander players throw a fit, now they also send death threats around to everyone. Wizards can't regulate their lust for cash and commander players can't regulate their insane need for every corner of magic to be forcibly converted into their favorite game mode, so yeah people need to step up and bash it, it's a community service and our only path out of the darkness of these wotc-mandated deck lists from the wrong format being crammed into every other format.
While some sets have been heavily commander focused, I don’t personally think Foundations is. It’s a return to core sets which is nice. It’s also all “within universe” even if there is no new lore.
This video is a commander set
Oh shit, they noticed.
Is this comment a commander set?
Your mom is a commander set
your a commander set
So is this comment
I like the Foundations, it feels like an actual magic set and that feeling is way too rare now-days. M20 vibes all around and I’m all for it.
same
Every card in Foundations was originally printed in New Capenna Commander and we all just forgot them. /j
Real talk, though, I have no idea how New Capenna Commander is so forgettable given how many ridiculously good gems are in there.
My favorite set!
haha nice one
Foundations looks honestly the exact same as any other core set I've seen in the past I think people just paid less attention to the amount of legends or commander staples printed in a set because they didn't care.
My main concern with Foundations is how powerful it is. Not that I really have a problem with power creep, but this stuff is going to be around for half a decade - who's going to play any 2-cost mana dorks when Llanowar Elf is always around? I fear they've backed themselves into *even more* power creep with these decisions.
@@kylekonop4801That just means the 2 mana dorks gonna have to tap for multiple colors. Or add additional value.
Lies
@@daltronius Or, and hear me out on this one, let's NOT waste set space on fucking 2 mana dorks and print something actually interesting?
@@kylekonop4801 when elvish mystic was in standard so were two mana manadroks and guess what, they both saw play
you clearly dont know what you are talking about if you think this set is "powerful"
Is Chronicles a commander set? It literally has reprints of the 5 Elder Dragon Legends.
I guess so haha
Every standard set has always had cards that were probably targeted at commander or modern. I think the difference is they used to be largely corner case cards that didnt wildly alter those formats regularly and people are tired of seeing "eternal formats" being so regularly disrupted.
Technically you CAN lava spike yourself, if you ever need that.
In "Rowan, Scion of War", that lava Spike acts as a "colorless Dark Ritual that costs a red mana"
@@marcoottina654 Also notable that it's for more than one spell as well, so a significantly better ritual!
Foundations might be the set that gets me into Standard
Lavaspike isn't getting replaced in burn, one of the conditional ones like Rift Bolt will get cut
That definitely seems to be the general opinion. One mana for three damage with no waiting is definitely better than Rift Bolt.
My thoughts before Vince even got out of the intro: "wait, doesn't every set have big splashy cards better in commander and spells that scale for multiple opponents?"
Every single one. Every time.
What about Fallen Empires ;)?
@@whaleofdarknessDeep Spawn is big and splashy ^^
@whaleofdarkness well now you’re just referring to cards from ye olden days, long before WotC had modern concepts of set design, limited design, etc. Honestly the first 5 years were really a frontier of figuring out what Magic even was and what was balanced. Just look at the best and worst cards from sets during those old days, they were very much still figuring things out.
I don’t know about the public discourse, but I personally am really excited for foundations, the first time I have really been excited for a new set since around 2020. When I look at foundations, its visuals, card design, the way it takes the general vibe of the magic IP seriously without many gags or cheap thrills, it brings me back to the old core sets. It reminds me of opening the packs that came in my intro deck and excitingly slotting the cool new dragon or angel or whatever into my 60 card unsleeved deck held together with a rubber band. It reminds of being a nerd at summer camp playing make-believe with dragons and wizards. It reminds me of everything that got me into magic in the first place. It might be a basic set, but that’s just because it is focusing, for the first time in a long time, on the core of the magic IP (letting the player choose between being angels, or dragons, or wizards, or vampires, etc.) rather than subverting it. It may come across as being for commander, but honestly I think it’s actually for casual players. Kitchen table magic. People forget that platinum angel wasn’t made for commander, it was made to be an exciting and interesting thing for casual players that might pique their interests enough to get them to want to get better. Foundations feels like the first set in a long time that cares about onboarding players to the magic IP, I hope it succeeds.
@@theodorecyngiser2841 agree that Foundations looks pretty good. is the rare land cycle temples or are those just in precon edh?
well then enjoy it while you can the magic vibe will most definitely change
Everything is universes beyond commander
Technically Magic's first non-core set was Universes Beyond (Arabian Nights). That was before Legends so couldn't be commander.
Except the ones that aren't.
But Vince, to viewers, your left hand is your right hand.
PERCEPTION IS TRUTH
Achktually it's on arena so it's a historic brawl set too
Now I’m interested!
Imagine thinking Lava Spike is too strong for Standard when Standard had Nexus of Fate
Rakdos, Lord of Riots probably likes the new Boltwave too
This new Universes Beyond set is wild.
Which property is this again?
The irony is when I read the video title I assumed this would be about product fatigue... So complaining about that is still fair game right?
It's pretty relevant - 6 sets instead of 5 now, all going into Standard. Oh boy.
I think there are definitely cards in it pushed for Commander(Super stoked to build them too), but this set overall has me tempted to get back into Standard. It's been since the last return to Theros since I've played it.
Im going to play standart too with this set again since scars of mirrodin and also for the ff set
Bolt Wave isn't counterplay to crystal barricade. It ignores it in a really unsatisfying way. Counterplay would be something like abrade. Bolt Wave just makes you feel like an idiot for playing crystal barricade, similar to protection made you feel dumb for playing that color.
The horror. Standard is so diverse and creative that it can be played it multiple formats. Commander was such a welcoming format, I even forget that constructed was just as fun. Jumpstart showed me that 60 card is great in its simplicity. We may need to address the 4 of vs singleton for the formats.
Foundations is a hunter weapon.
I think the legitimate criticism of design for commander is when that design comes at the cost of the competitive 1 v 1 formats.
I'm just not seeing that here, at least nothing close to the contemporary sets being released all the time.
Set reads as a reimagined core set for the modern game to me. 🤷
Genuinely cool idea but spiderman standard has me fully tapped out.
I was a long standing hanger-onner of magic since the ancient historic era of Nemesis, and long past all my friends tapped out but this just isn't the game I loved anymore.
Hope y'all continue to have fun playing in the future.
Bolt wave in Obosh…..odd mana cost sooooo….double damage! 1 red mana 6 damage to each opponent? Nice!
Obosh and niv in a grixis pile with boltwave...6 damage to each opponent and draw 18 cards? Magical Christmasland heaven! 😆
@@colyrnesadly niv and obosh dont work with each other since Niv has even Mana cost.
@@TruBoreDOM bolt weave with both out was more what I was implying. You can't run Obosh as companion though so it's definitely that "everything goes right" situation
I've got a bunch of old stuff sitting around. Foundations, the starter set particularly, is a good way for me to get back in to paper again.
The only EDH thing about this set imo is the Command Tower, Sol Ring, & Arcane Signet you get when you buy that starter bundle or whatever.
"Stop pointing out the problem"
Weird thing to say.
herp derp big brain clever make the brain go goody
@@PleasantKenobi your turning into quite the salty bish lately
wrong, the tldr is "there are bigger, more accurate fish to fry"
Vince, didn't you know? This set isn't for you. All of these sets are not for you.
Nah. This is very much for me.
@@PleasantKenobi Well, you wanted me to say something else. So I said The Other Thing (TM)
My favorite quote from The last boy scout. " Water is wet, Sky is blue, Women of secrets, Who gives a fuck?"
To me as a person that prefers 60 card formats over Commander I can barely stomach more than a few commander games every couple of months I primarily play Commander for my boyfriend Scentsy loves Commander so much to me it is only a commander set when it is too week , weird care choices , and I guess it could depend on the themes but politely fuck anyone who thinks of Magic the Gathering foundations is a commander set this feels like a love letter to all of Magic the Gathering
The biggest things for Commander in Foundations are the reprints. Sure, there are a couple of new toys, but the reprints are the biggest part.
Everything is universes beyond
This is the first video I've watched today that isn't about the US election. It's almost eerie to see the world still turning and regular videos in my RUclips feed, but it's a nice change of pace too lol
This whole video is just an allegory for the US election 😔
it was nice until he had to bring up the annoying orange
If I wouldn’t read this comment I won’t know that there was US election recently 😅
And he STILL had to take a jab at Trump 😂 TDS is hilarious
You guys have presidents? I didn't even know an election was going on lol. All sunny down here in Greekistan.
Calling UB a slippery slope was thoughtless and easy too but here we are.
I dont think it was thoughtless. It was a legitimate concern.
Why doesn’t the bigger format simply eat the smaller format?
My favorite type of set is Kenobi Masters
I think people saw the Muldrotha reprint and freaked out. We should be celebrating this set for being so standard focused and toning down on the commander stuff like making every mildly interesting creature legendary/
Honestly, they should have focused on Commander with Universes Beyond and left Standard more pure. But they're doing the opposite lol
Everything exceptional is crushed by common people
Something, something, Commander.
All sets are Commander sets because Commander is the only format that matters anymore.
I play standard on Arena and commander in paper (there isn't a big standard scene in my area) and this set felt so on theme for standard that it's the first set I considered spending my money just on arena and not paper. This feels very much like a standard set, and it's honestly refreshing.
The funniest part is that Foundations is the set that may finally convert this commander player to paper standard
Foundations reminds me of when I first played Magic with the 2014 core set, and I am pretty hyped for this set recent sets (cowboys & Cluedo) have felt distant from
Everything is a commander set… EVERYTHING < Must Comply> 😂
Lava spike still can be better cause you can splice onto arcane with it.
The last time I felt a „motherf**ker“ so hard was in pulp fiction.
Love that positivity, I’m also very happy with the direction of foundation
I’m finally buying into paper magic and dipping my toes into it. What has held me out was the fact that standard was NOT played much and the seeming return of it has me pretty excited. This foundations product really sounds great to me and pretty much was my tipping point for starting to get into the game for real. I have a hard time relating to the negativity around this product. It pretty much hits the nail on the head for what I was looking for.
Every set is a commander set for years already
it is a commander set, what are you smoking.
foundations is the first full non-remastered release since modern horizons 2 to not have a related commander deck
Foundations had me flirting with the idea of trying Standard again, but the UB announcement scrapped that pretty quickly.
'See you all soon ya fuqs'
LMFAO holy shit Prince Kenobi is fuckin hilarious 😂
The fact we have format to complain about is such a positive in itself! what other card game has the luxury to say "i don't like this format, i'll go play one of these 3 other ones i love that are supported instead"
0:42 what is a donald trump?
Eh just some dude who was balmed for sexual assault twice yet acquitted on both charge...
He didn't studder 😂
@@skfot5152 surely thats it.... thats all he has going on right? he isnt moonlighting as a world leader or anything right?
@guildpact2056 I mean, dude is super rich, donated his salary feom his last presidancy back to the country and literally has no time in the day to also run a global realestate enterprise so his family does that for him, so... No?
@@skfot5152 I gotta invent sarcasm soon.
‘Welcome to Another Pleasant Kenobi Rant’ should be slapped on a T-Shirt and be sold as merch.
This video: “I’m going to complain about everything, and nothing at the same time”
Commander is king, don’t like it don’t play
Reaching comprehension is difficult. You will get there one day.
9:19 But that's the point. I would say those cards were made for commander, but they wind up being strong standard cards. Made for commander cards wind up just increasing the power level of standard magic.
So Im a person who often complains, that cards are designed for commander. My complains started with March of the machines. What swings with the sentence "this is designed for commander..." is "these cards take up slots of cards, that could be refreshing for standart." It let a sour feeling in my mouth, when I looked at a new set and half of the rare+ cards werent usable in standart. However, I too firmly believe that foundation is pretty well designed for standart. Sadly I'll stop playing ince spiderman hits the format.
WAIT, you mean there's formats OTHER than Commander?!!
As a new Player looking to get into MtG, commander was my go to so far. But what I've seen from Foundations recently really makes me want to dip my feet into standard.
Hot take: Foundation is a cube set!
Fuck yeah!
I can't wait for it but that for the jump start I love playing jumpstart with my friends
3:03 boltwave dosen't commit crime and isn't an arcane, the only two reedming qualities to lava spike
Oh well... And it's a common 😅
This commander set video dies to doom blade
This is just a 2 headed giant set
tbh lava spike is a crime while bolt wave isn't. No idea how much it matters in modern tho :O
Literally the only reason I don't play standard is none of the LGS within a 2 hour drive from me offer standard on weekends it's just all commander. I work until 11pm every day. I can't make anything that's offered on weekdays :(
People saw Blasphemous Edict and immediately said “SEE IT IS JUST COMMANDER!!!” Soyjack pointing and everything. Then they went off and bought the product anyway. Except the people who pretend they play the game but don’t because they like to be included in discourse.
I love Foundations cus its the closest we will ever get to block standard + coreset formula....well 1/4 of it
Vince you mentioned something about maybe making a video about how red and white came into their own identity via commander design. Here hoping you make that video. When you mentioned that it got me thinking about how much I'd grown to love red and white recently.
Did you have to use that video of me chewing... I thought you said that was for your personal collection?
Tbh? When I say this, I mean it as a compliment. It shows off more strategy that I can use in a deck, or maybe I just like a legendary creature. Then again, pauper gets a HUGE boost from this set.
0:40 water is NOT wet, water makes other things wet.
Nothing is wetter then water.
Wait, I know that "every set is for commander", but I actually didn't know that this arguement was going around. I looked Foundations up in EDREC and there is like 10 commanders in the set. I might be wrong, but ain't that low? Also the mythics and rares don't seem spicy to me. Is it a bad set for commander? No. Is it buy, buy, BUY! set for commander? Don't think so. So I am surprised that this is an arguement.
100 card singleton, in MY card game?😡😡
Magic: The Gathering Foundations is a Tron Killer
I play just about every format of Magic, the whole point of playing the card game is to enjoy it. If I spend all my life being angry about it, I won't enjoy the fun bits. :>
the only card that sticks out like a sore thumb and screams we just reprinted this for commander is muldrotha specially with the jump-start product coming alongside this why is he in the main set why not a special guest who knows?
Looking forward to hearing this again when the spider-man set drops and has more legends then you can shake a stick at.
Foundation Jumpstart and the Base kit? Sure.
The base set, only in part and to the same extent as any other- sans the dedicated Commander sets.
I’ll check it out in 2029
I just got all my cards for a standard deck last week and another set is coming out. Six sets a year is not sustainable and decks rotate constantly.
Boltwave is also templated in a way that doesn’t need players to click a target on Arena. This reduces the amount of slow, ropey play on that platform.
I mean, the line might be (is) a memetic oversimplification, but the number of legends (for instance) really is significantly higher than it would be if Commander were not an omnipresent concern. The number of cards in standard sets that don’t cut it in standard and have to find homes elsewhere hasn’t increased significantly, but it has been shifted heavily towards Commander.
Foundations was the bay harbor butcher
which Foundation cards are you targeting to play in 60 card?
I don't think it's a commander set. I think it is a horizon-esk set thtat will help justify an increase in power level, not to the extent of MH sets, but definitely heavily increase the power level of standard (which is just extended now)
Not me saying it's bad. But how I view the set is going to end up changing magic.
It's funny, as someone who plays exclusively commander I was doing my list of singles I'd want from foundations and it's under 10 with 3-4 of them being staples I already have but hope to snatch a second copy at cheaper if it drops enough so yeah... not that commander-y compared to duckmourn and bloomburrow as far as I'm concerned
Im excited for the limited format of foundations. From what ive seen, its going to feel like old kitchen magic.
This set is gonna fly off the shelf. Wizards is gonna think they hit a gold mine with this set compared to the last five.
I think it'll have the same problem that core sets always do. It'll sell like crazy until people have what they want from it, and then it'll sit on shelves.
@robmitchell3039 as long as they don't ever print it, Guage it a little bit.
They can print it for 5 years, slow down ease it in.
@@nkling02 I don't think there's an issue with a core set being always available, but not selling too much. New people should have access to this set. But I doubt Hasbro will agree. I'm betting this will be the only five year set.
@robmitchell3039 yes I agree, hasbro is doing this cash grab, get people In quick thing that NASCAR is also doing with its star wars cross over 23 car .
Labeled as a darth vader star wars racecard and promoted by Hayden Christiansen. Fortnite and mortal kombat has been doing it for years
So looking forward to Foundations! First set I have been this hyped for since Throne of Eldraine. Let's go!
Love the vid, as always! 😂
Stoked to re-up my commander decks with the new set
If mtg would just make one commander specific set a year. It would be better than what it is now.
This should be a PSA!
Vis a vis cards like Boltwave: That's not even a "Commander" design per se. It's *multiplayer* design. Commander is certainly the most popular multi-player format at the moment but it isn't, and never has been, the *only* multi-player format in Magic, so I feel like that's a reasonable distinction to make. Even within Commander products they've been trying to revitalize things like Planechase and Archenemy.
While there are some cards in Foundations that may find their way into Commander decks, I'd suggest checking out the LRRMTG Pre-prerelease video. This set feels like old-school Magic, like we played back in the day. Solid flavor, overall I'd call it a good set compared to some from the last 12-18 months.
How about we give the set a month to settle into our playgroups before we start sounding the collective butt-trumpet of "It's all Commander, boo-hoo"? This is the first set in years that actually makes me want to buy a box to crack. Haven't done that since Mirage.
U OK hun?
Seriously though, it's a great looking set with lots of bomby limited shenanigans and easy to understand interaction.
This seems way too aggro of a response to criticism that ultimately you know for a fact is 100% right. You know for sure which arguments from a multi-year discourse people are evoking when they roll their eyes and say "oh good standard is getting commander cards shoved into it again."
Yes standard is at its best when its design space and set space is used for standard. Indisputable. But the catch is, that's also when commander is at its best. It was always a format for finding creative uses for cards that weren't intended for commander. You can't call people lazy while you're also insisting that every set needs commander cards printed into them that have a big gold foil stamp that says "hey stupid this is your new red staple" on it, that's the laziest thing in magic history, lazier even than netdecking because it cuts out the part where you at least used to look something up for a minute.
Not only that but pretty much 100% of design mistakes in the modern era arise from trying to print commander power creep into other formats. And then what happens every single time? It gets banned, commander players throw a fit, now they also send death threats around to everyone. Wizards can't regulate their lust for cash and commander players can't regulate their insane need for every corner of magic to be forcibly converted into their favorite game mode, so yeah people need to step up and bash it, it's a community service and our only path out of the darkness of these wotc-mandated deck lists from the wrong format being crammed into every other format.
"explain this 60 card high horse m*****f*****" :D :D :D i will find a way to use that at my lgs
While some sets have been heavily commander focused, I don’t personally think Foundations is. It’s a return to core sets which is nice. It’s also all “within universe” even if there is no new lore.