This is honestly not only one of Chopin’s greatest works but one of the most incredibly well written compositions of all time. It perfectly embodies the exciting ferocity of classical/ romantic harmony and traditional form.
@@tchibou25 Chopin's favorite composers were Bach and Mozart, in that order. An avid student of Bach, he emulated his contrapuntal and harmonic style, and coupled it with Mozart's lyricism. Most people don't seem to know this, but Chopin was also an avid fan of the guitar and the African drum and incorporated those, as well.
@@3YZ-TS191 oh i definitely didn't know about the guitar and drums one !!! That's some interesting information right there knowing such details can definitely help with interpretation of his music
@@tchibou25 Chopin is reputed to have said that no instrument was as beautiful as a guitar, save possibly two. He never composed directly for the guitar or the drum, but he did include elements of their sounds in his piano music, such as in the più lento section of his 4th scherzo (guitar), and the repeated opening left-hand arpeggios in his 1st scherzo (drum). Understanding these, and correctly incorporating them in the music, would certainly help with correctly interpreting his music.
its funny how as soon as i start learning a new difficult song, i think gosh it would be nice to see this slow so i look it up on your page and youve uploaded it like a week before i start the piece
I just realized I can become a famous pianist by playing everything at half speed and then doubling the playback. Sounds great at 2x speed BachScholar 👏
This sounds stellar! It is an etiude, so a piece made primarily to practice and there is a lot of close notes sequences to be played faster and faster. But when you actually take it slow like this you can really distinguish the melody and emotion in it, and it stops being merely just a drill, and becomes a masterpiece
This is really good. It may not look that impressive, but you're keeping your tempo very well, amd I dont think you missed a single note. This is the proper way to practice - slow, even, and precise. You should only practice it full speed maybe 1 out of every ten times you play it. Great job!!
And to think that Chopin did all of his work in a span of only about 20 years. He was a young 39 when he passed and was in poor health the last several years of his life, so he didn't write a lot after the age of 30. Chopin was definitely a musical genius!!
If there is one thing this piece taught me it’s that playing it slowly will not lead to the ability to play it quickly. That would teach you the notes, however, which is very useful, obviously. You will quickly find that something that works fine at quarter=88 doesn’t work at quarter=176. For example, at high tempo some sections required me to alternate between playing very deep into the black keys and then abruptly changing position to play far out on the whites. Took me a long time to figure it out. Don’t know if others would have same issue. My advise. Learn E major scale through 4 octaves with both hand up to 160bpm, preferably higher. Then start on piece by breaking it up into small chucks and bring each section up to tempo separately. Start with hardest sections first and rest will seem easier (in my opinion hardest sections are LH-bars19-20, RH-25-28, Both hands 31-32, 41-46) bring those up to around 144-160. Then learn the last page and then the rest. Practice each section with metronome hands separate and then together to bring it up to as close to 200 as you can in sections. Then practice joining each section. Good luck.
For functionality, I'd love to have a reach like that. But that would make me look scary. I can barely, not comfortably reach a ninth. Even octaves get smudgy if I don't have my hands positioned just right.
@@robertoacevedo9140 I would have that that, this being a study as opposed to a piece, Chopin would have played this to train his fingers and so would greatly increase the tempo so as to improve. But I could expect that he would want his students to play around this tempo.
Thanks for sharing this video Cory, very useful. Actually, I’m planning to record an even slower version. I think that slow practice is essential for this etude. Cheers.
Thank you so much for uploading these series of slow and comprehensive performances, Cory! Although I haven't started to study this étude yet, I'm sure this video and the other ones to come will be very helpful for me and many other people :) . And by the way, I like this camera angle very much. Keep up the good work! Cheers!
Soooooo magical but I want to know the truth behind it.Does Chopin compose it that way ? or the fast version is the original one , and what drives me insane that both slow and fast versions are two incredibly masterpieces.totally extraordinary musician.
Great video! I noticed you sped up in the end bravura closing section, but aside from that this really helps me (I have small hands since I am 14). Also I REALLY love your piano, one of the best steinway models.
I play this SO much different than any recording I have ever heard. Much slower like yours. It sucks for the purists out there but I feel this etude can be played as a prelude as there are too many melodic lines burried under the torment (lol!) that deserve more attention.
Bar 33-34 left hand (and bar 37-38) starting at 1:59 : Can You really play it ii tempo with that fingering? 2132 2132. Instead of 2143 2143 (which is also very difficult by the way)
I don't understand why so many people says they prefer it slower, I don't, and I think when a song is made to be played quickly, it's not melodical when played slower (sorry if bad english)
This is so . Piano Tiles made this piece my favourite like 6 years ago and LOOK I am NOT a pianist. In fact, the first time I held a piano for a real purpose was yesterday, but you know what? I will get up this weekend and I will start learning this portion of prehistorical ear canal massager even if it takes me DECADES. Nobody can stop me.
@@ARISTO_Music bruh, you've got to hear it to feel it. It honestly sounds better when played slower because it somehow adds traction to the piece and allows a person to follow through with the melody and feel what the piece was intended to make you feel. In other places it's played so fast that it doesn't sound melodious, makes it sound somehow randomly pressed piano keys imo.
Very sorry everyone, but I think the song is way better at this speed. I can’t understand why anyone would like to listen to this song at a speed where it just.. doesn’t sound as good as at this speed 😶 (Also: Amazing work!! 😍)
Also, you have to remember it’s an etude, a piece to be used like an exercise. Hense the repetition and equal work between the hands. God damn Chopin is good. I agree though, some famous performers should take pieces and slow them down and change interpretations. 🤷♂️
Simone Mao If you follow whole bear theory, then the speed that Chopin wrote is "precisely half". It is really no wonder that soooo many people are commenting here that they prefer it at this speed instead. It makes sense.
In the bar 19 the third 16th of the L.H. is F#, not F. In the bar 43 the tenth 16th of the R.H. is C#, not C. Otherwise your student will learn wrong notes. ;-)
+Fabrizio Soprano In bar 19 it is actually E# (same as F), although some editions might be different than the one I'm using (Friedheim). You are right about bar 43 though, since I accidentally play a C instead of C#.
i am surprised, the ending arpegio you used 2 hands instead of one. You have a big hand where as mine is smaller but only using rh only. Yes, slowplaying is a must for the faster playing.
Whats really funny, is you think this is half speed, but this is actually around the speed that Chopin would have originally played at. Maybe a hair slower. Chopin marked the first edition with 88 to the half note. To properly interpret that metronome marking you have to have two ticks for every beat, not one. One evidence of this can be found in funeral marches where if you use our modern way of interpreting tempo, they are way to fast for a funeral march. Chopin made etudes for his piano students, and he would not have put an insane tempo. Furthermore Chopin was not a show off. He would not have cared to play as fast as valentina lesitsa played.
@Lemon Grass con fuoco isnt a speed, it's a feeling. Chopin played completly different than the other composers of the time and had no desire to copy liszt and others. I do think this would have been a bit faster than this video. Musicologists have ignored tempo research or never thought there could be another option. I even read a dissertation that mentioned a problem with metrenome and then swiftly moved on. Valentina speeds are simply not the speeds the music was intendid and you can tell when the music loses its meaning and harmonics.
I tested a pianist who has a doctorate of piano pedagogy and he/she couldnt even play the fast runs in beethovens. Sonata op10 no1 mvmt 2. The pianos of the day were incapable of these speeds.
One of the problems I have with the half beat theory is that it would mean that all of the classical pieces would be played so slowly. The pieces using using presto or vivace would sound fairly normal paced but the grave and the largo pieces would just be so dragged out to the point a melody is not clear. Additionally, wouldn’t a classical composer ever think to compose a fast piece? If the half beat theory is true, then everyone back then must have loved listening to almost hour long sonatas and operas lasting half a day. It logically doesn’t make any sense.
No, no, no. There were multitudes of pianists in the nineteenth century who heard Chopin play and who left records of his playing style and taught students who lived to record their playing. Nowhere, absolutely nowhere in that whole tradition of pianism is there any suggestion that Chopin played his pieces at half speed. The idea is insane, sorry.
Always think this is played too fast, would like it played somewhat faster than this but still enough to hear every note. The ending is really striking.
This is honestly not only one of Chopin’s greatest works but one of the most incredibly well written compositions of all time. It perfectly embodies the exciting ferocity of classical/ romantic harmony and traditional form.
Actually seems easier this way. Now I have motivation to learn 😀
Vidarshana Prasad teach me also plz:)
good i recomend it
Rover, did you finish it?
Hey its been 5 years, not sure if u will ever reply to this but have u finished it?
Did you learn it
Chopin was pure genius. The baroquish sublimity of this piece cannot be overstated. Thank you for slow-playing and posting this absolute masterpiece.
I heard chopin was a big fan of bach
@@tchibou25 Chopin's favorite composers were Bach and Mozart, in that order. An avid student of Bach, he emulated his contrapuntal and harmonic style, and coupled it with Mozart's lyricism. Most people don't seem to know this, but Chopin was also an avid fan of the guitar and the African drum and incorporated those, as well.
@@3YZ-TS191 oh i definitely didn't know about the guitar and drums one !!! That's some interesting information right there knowing such details can definitely help with interpretation of his music
@@tchibou25 Chopin is reputed to have said that no instrument was as beautiful as a guitar, save possibly two. He never composed directly for the guitar or the drum, but he did include elements of their sounds in his piano music, such as in the più lento section of his 4th scherzo (guitar), and the repeated opening left-hand arpeggios in his 1st scherzo (drum). Understanding these, and correctly incorporating them in the music, would certainly help with correctly interpreting his music.
@@3YZ-TS191 thank you i have learned alot with you !
I prefer the slower version like this, because then I can fully listen to the beautiful melody and harmony which is the trademark of Chopin's music
ok, maybe you should go see a doctor, maybe something with you ears
Nice I like it cause the notes and the same reason like urs😊 but I also like fast😊
Yeah me too
Check out Paul barton's cover of this piece, he plays it at full speed with the same clarity as 50%
0:15
for all you lazy people this is when it starts
Lol it's not even that late
thanks i couldn't wait more it was long, glad i came down in the comments
@@MaxGr12 lol ikr
its funny how as soon as i start learning a new difficult song, i think gosh it would be nice to see this slow so i look it up on your page and youve uploaded it like a week before i start the piece
I read your name and for a moment thought your last name was Schumann
I just realized I can become a famous pianist by playing everything at half speed and then doubling the playback. Sounds great at 2x speed BachScholar 👏
Thank you!!!! It's so hard to know if i'm playing it correctly when i'm practicing since the slow rhythm makes it sound so different.
Exactly
That is so true!
^..^~~
Can you play it now days? I mean its been 6 years...
This sounds stellar! It is an etiude, so a piece made primarily to practice and there is a lot of close notes sequences to be played faster and faster. But when you actually take it slow like this you can really distinguish the melody and emotion in it, and it stops being merely just a drill, and becomes a masterpiece
Speed this up 2x on RUclips and you have yourself a concert performance.
more like ragtime
yayysssssssssssssssss
Still a bit slow imo
It is a tiny bit slower than usual at 2x speed
His playing is slower than half tempo though
This is really good. It may not look that impressive, but you're keeping your tempo very well, amd I dont think you missed a single note. This is the proper way to practice - slow, even, and precise. You should only practice it full speed maybe 1 out of every ten times you play it. Great job!!
Oof the dude literally made the video for his student
This is very great playing. Being able to play this piece at a slow tempo is still hard in my opinion. I think you’ve accomplished a lot.
This is so beautiful
beautiful? this is the least musical etude
Agamaz it's because of his terrible playing
@@agamaz5650 opinions
2:55 my best 2 se seconds
@foxlimacharlie I mean this 5 notes :V this notes match and dont so perfectly :V
if you can play it slowly you can play it quickly
Only 2setviolin people Will understand
Practice 40hours a day
If u can play it wrongly you can play it rightly
@@saakethmanepalli1185 if u play it with hands you can play it with feet
If I can get F- I can get an A+
And to think that Chopin did all of his work in a span of only about 20 years. He was a young 39 when he passed and was in poor health the last several years of his life, so he didn't write a lot after the age of 30. Chopin was definitely a musical genius!!
It's just as good slower than regular speed.
If there is one thing this piece taught me it’s that playing it slowly will not lead to the ability to play it quickly. That would teach you the notes, however, which is very useful, obviously. You will quickly find that something that works fine at quarter=88 doesn’t work at quarter=176. For example, at high tempo some sections required me to alternate between playing very deep into the black keys and then abruptly changing position to play far out on the whites. Took me a long time to figure it out. Don’t know if others would have same issue. My advise. Learn E major scale through 4 octaves with both hand up to 160bpm, preferably higher. Then start on piece by breaking it up into small chucks and bring each section up to tempo separately. Start with hardest sections first and rest will seem easier (in my opinion hardest sections are LH-bars19-20, RH-25-28, Both hands 31-32, 41-46) bring those up to around 144-160. Then learn the last page and then the rest. Practice each section with metronome hands separate and then together to bring it up to as close to 200 as you can in sections. Then practice joining each section. Good luck.
Also never practice will pedal until you have learned up to speed, you must be able to hear your mistakes to fix them
Incredible, as usual! Lovely performance Cory, really. Could you play Chopin's Op. 10 No. 1, please? I'd love to listen to you play that étude!
In 2x it's like a synth followed by a bass guitar
It sounds horrible on 2x speed. It only sounds good on normal speed.
this guy can easily stretch a 10th with that hand size. So jealous ..
For functionality, I'd love to have a reach like that. But that would make me look scary. I can barely, not comfortably reach a ninth. Even octaves get smudgy if I don't have my hands positioned just right.
cj7ification I can barely reach an octave with my small hands and fingers :'(
@cj7ification Stretching your hand in this etude at high speed is exactly what you should NOT do.
Me too. I can barely play the 4 nite chords in chopins prelude in E minor because my hands are not big enough.
i can barely reach a 9th
funny story...i like it better played slowly. it has a darker feeling to it.
exactly!
Like watching a horror movie in slow motion - especially at the disturbing climax and run down to the end.
This is the Original way Chopin played It. The Metronome was used differently in those days than how we use It today. This is its original tempo.
@@robertoacevedo9140 I would have that that, this being a study as opposed to a piece, Chopin would have played this to train his fingers and so would greatly increase the tempo so as to improve. But I could expect that he would want his students to play around this tempo.
Roberto Acevedo I’m assuming you got this from wim winters and I’m gonna tell you right now that everything he says is false
If you preferred this tempo to the usual fast interpretation you should try setting playback to 1.25x speed. Sounds just right.
if you are watching at double speed everything looks normal until he turns the page 1:32 xD
Nice
LOL!
XD
I'm not liking this comment cause it already has 69 likes it will stay this way
LOL
I like the fact that his video is exactly 2 times longer than Rousseau's even considering their respective intros and outros.
Thanks for posting this it reminds me of me playing Fantaisie Impromptu by Chopin
Vincenzo Carbone what
Thanks for sharing this video Cory, very useful. Actually, I’m planning to record an even slower version. I think that slow practice is essential for this etude. Cheers.
I've watched this so many times
Thank you so much for uploading these series of slow and comprehensive performances, Cory! Although I haven't started to study this étude yet, I'm sure this video and the other ones to come will be very helpful for me and many other people :) .
And by the way, I like this camera angle very much. Keep up the good work!
Cheers!
Soooooo magical but I want to know the truth behind it.Does Chopin compose it that way ? or the fast version is the original one , and what drives me insane that both slow and fast versions are two incredibly masterpieces.totally extraordinary musician.
Great video! I noticed you sped up in the end bravura closing section, but aside from that this really helps me (I have small hands since I am 14).
Also I REALLY love your piano, one of the best steinway models.
I play this video alongside cuz I don’t know how to time the metronome properly. Thanks for being a human metronome
thank you so much.....i learn a lot of thing...
Wow. Even at a slow speed it still seems insanely difficult.
My favorite part is 4:02
Me too
Same
I play this SO much different than any recording I have ever heard. Much slower like yours. It sucks for the purists out there but I feel this etude can be played as a prelude as there are too many melodic lines burried under the torment (lol!) that deserve more attention.
Wow, even 1/2 speed is too fast for me! I’ve been practicing this. I’ll have to go down to 1/4 speed
0:14 0:14
0:14 0:14
Very helpful for learners! Thank you.
좋은 렛슨영상이네요~~~^^👍👍👍👍👍
Came here after the 20% speed from another channel, Torrent is surprisingly nice in slow versions ❤
Bar 33-34 left hand (and bar 37-38) starting at 1:59 : Can You really play it ii tempo with that fingering? 2132 2132. Instead of 2143 2143 (which is also very difficult by the way)
I don't understand why so many people says they prefer it slower, I don't, and I think when a song is made to be played quickly, it's not melodical when played slower (sorry if bad english)
It’s so cool even in slow 👏
It sounds like Bach’s 😍😍😍
This is so . Piano Tiles made this piece my favourite like 6 years ago and LOOK I am NOT a pianist. In fact, the first time I held a piano for a real purpose was yesterday, but you know what? I will get up this weekend and I will start learning this portion of prehistorical ear canal massager even if it takes me DECADES. Nobody can stop me.
Do you recommend any fingering for the part when it returns in C# minor from Ab ? 1:32
THANKS this is SO helpful!
2:55 That bassssss😫😫
Slow sounds nicer to me. All notes are clearly heard.
u have no sense of *feeling* the music then.. and u hearing it clearly just cause it sounds nice to you and not cause u get connected to it (:
@@ARISTO_Music questa è una grande stronzata che ti sei inventato e non c'è scritto da nessuna parte
@@ARISTO_Music bruh, you've got to hear it to feel it. It honestly sounds better when played slower because it somehow adds traction to the piece and allows a person to follow through with the melody and feel what the piece was intended to make you feel. In other places it's played so fast that it doesn't sound melodious, makes it sound somehow randomly pressed piano keys imo.
This is beautiful
Thank you!
Beautiful~
Very sorry everyone, but I think the song is way better at this speed. I can’t understand why anyone would like to listen to this song at a speed where it just.. doesn’t sound as good as at this speed 😶
(Also: Amazing work!! 😍)
It's not a song. A song is sung, and has words.
Because Chopin put himself the speed on the score and it's really faster than this.
Also, you have to remember it’s an etude, a piece to be used like an exercise. Hense the repetition and equal work between the hands. God damn Chopin is good. I agree though, some famous performers should take pieces and slow them down and change interpretations. 🤷♂️
@@mrjoeomspach Well... I wish pianists mixed their "covers" with some original pieces from time to time...
Simone Mao If you follow whole bear theory, then the speed that Chopin wrote is "precisely half". It is really no wonder that soooo many people are commenting here that they prefer it at this speed instead. It makes sense.
Time to tune the piano!
Can I know the name of the Piano Method you use?
has a castlevania feel, mi love dis.
spongycaluni Actually no, Castlevania has a little of a Baroque style and a little feel of the darkness of Chopin's music.
In the bar 19 the third 16th of the L.H. is F#, not F. In the bar 43 the tenth 16th of the R.H. is C#, not C.
Otherwise your student will learn wrong notes. ;-)
+Fabrizio Soprano In bar 19 it is actually E# (same as F), although some editions might be different than the one I'm using (Friedheim). You are right about bar 43 though, since I accidentally play a C instead of C#.
Ok. I just wanted to be useful.
@@fabriziosoprano4668 You weren't
Haizz
Amazing how he managed to point it out though
책 빠르게 쇽 넘기는거 귀여워ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
0:28 RIP my right hand
Verrrrry nice ❤️❤️ good job keep going !
Can you do black keys etude at the same speed, would be very useful!
oh now I could hear the notes
Chopin, chill.
I like this video:) not too fast!
4:01 already got this much hope i can finish this piece
Finishh...
1:45-1:52 Bach ?
At 0:28 in that chord is the thumb playing both C# and D# at the same time?
yup
0:14 0:50
YOU GREAT!!
Hey, what book contains all the Chopin Etudes?
+Solomon Yoon The Chopin Etudes contains all of the Chopin etudes. sold by many publishers
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!!!
if you put the speed on 2.0 its almost as fast the original
MafiaShadowZ maybe because the tempo is slower by half in the first place ? You state the obvious bro
*NO SHIT*
How are your hands so huge man
Superb bravo
No! this is good I think.slow is better I heard this played fast and it sounds muddy. Thanks for this speed.
I wish you were my teacher!
X2 = real version by the way good job dude
Fantastic!
Like op10 no1, I like the tempo around quarter note = 90 better than its intended tempo
i am surprised, the ending arpegio you used 2 hands instead of one. You have a big hand where as mine is smaller but only using rh only. Yes, slowplaying is a must for the faster playing.
more slow video!
Beautiful..
00:19 for all those learning the piece concider 1-3-2-5 instead of 1-2-1-5 as fingering for this bar
And all the ones similar to this
That page turn tho
much much so much better version than the fast one
very very very good😍😍
fantastic
Whats really funny, is you think this is half speed, but this is actually around the speed that Chopin would have originally played at. Maybe a hair slower. Chopin marked the first edition with 88 to the half note. To properly interpret that metronome marking you have to have two ticks for every beat, not one. One evidence of this can be found in funeral marches where if you use our modern way of interpreting tempo, they are way to fast for a funeral march. Chopin made etudes for his piano students, and he would not have put an insane tempo. Furthermore Chopin was not a show off. He would not have cared to play as fast as valentina lesitsa played.
@Lemon Grass con fuoco isnt a speed, it's a feeling. Chopin played completly different than the other composers of the time and had no desire to copy liszt and others. I do think this would have been a bit faster than this video. Musicologists have ignored tempo research or never thought there could be another option. I even read a dissertation that mentioned a problem with metrenome and then swiftly moved on. Valentina speeds are simply not the speeds the music was intendid and you can tell when the music loses its meaning and harmonics.
I tested a pianist who has a doctorate of piano pedagogy and he/she couldnt even play the fast runs in beethovens. Sonata op10 no1 mvmt 2. The pianos of the day were incapable of these speeds.
One of the problems I have with the half beat theory is that it would mean that all of the classical pieces would be played so slowly. The pieces using using presto or vivace would sound fairly normal paced but the grave and the largo pieces would just be so dragged out to the point a melody is not clear. Additionally, wouldn’t a classical composer ever think to compose a fast piece? If the half beat theory is true, then everyone back then must have loved listening to almost hour long sonatas and operas lasting half a day. It logically doesn’t make any sense.
100% agree.Its around the historic tempo.
No, no, no. There were multitudes of pianists in the nineteenth century who heard Chopin play and who left records of his playing style and taught students who lived to record their playing. Nowhere, absolutely nowhere in that whole tradition of pianism is there any suggestion that Chopin played his pieces at half speed. The idea is insane, sorry.
Thank you
Use the 1.05x speed can compare to Piano Tiles 2 speed.
my right finger cant reach the notes at 0:28 what should i do):
Nikita Lourdey Get a hands transplant
Play both C# and D# with the thumb
lmao this is the version in piano tiles
Ayano Kazuko should've been the fastest song in piano tiles. I want them to remake it. Full song and realistic speed
0:14
手が大きいんじゃ
2倍速にするとちょうどいいぐらいで見れるゾ
thank you so much :)
#How to read sheet music
very Bach
Always think this is played too fast, would like it played somewhat faster than this but still enough to hear every note. The ending is really striking.