Rings Of Power: How Activists Destroyed LOTR Forever
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- Опубликовано: 14 май 2024
- The Rings Of Power trailer released to a horrible reception from fans. Which is to be expected when the show actively ignores and goes against the source material that the fans love. It makes zero sense to make a Lord Of The Rings series that goes against the wishes of Lord Of The Rings fans, but that said here we are so might as well have fun making videos on this terrible show.
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"Evil cannot create anything new, it can only spoil and destroy what good forces have invented or created," John R. R. Tolkien.
Well, that's poetic. Unfortunately it relies on multiple undefined terms. The atomic bomb is destructive but it's also a creation. Do we apply this quote by saying that the bomb is not evil or that the bomb is not new?
Love it when people who otherwise know nothing about a public figure go around parroting quotes they’ve read elsewhere as if it’s a point of authority.
You have a chibi Godzilla thumbnail, son.
Ah yes says the literal racist, I'm not defending ring's if power. I know I wouldn't like it if blade all of a sudden turns into a white male but saying Tolkien isn't racist is like saying the new Dr who is the best Dr who!😒
@@alm2187 The atomic bomb is not evil, it is an object. It can be used for evil, but it is not evil for simply existing.
@@Jake_The_Peg Actually the first nuclear reactor was built before the first atomic bomb. Also wind and wave power are much cleaner. Apart from that, spot on.
You ever notice how these networks renew shows that nobody liked, while cancelling shows people do like?
It truly makes zero sense
Yeah, i think is problably because the production of at least this season was started,
People just have to be coherent and not hate watching so it flops and they cancel it
@@SubZero-hs9xcfr😮
Firefly...
It’s called cultural ma ksizm. Pull down the statues of the old culture for the revolution: Luke Indy, Bond, Thor, Peter Pan, Nick Fury, Doctor who, LotR, etc etc etc.
The SJWs and their financial backers could have made any number of original diverse productions. Instead, they chose to revise Tolkien, Doctor Who, Star Trek, Star Wars, Indiana Jones and so on. Aside from the lack of creative talent, there's a spiteful element to it as well. They set out to smear everything that you like with rainbow unicorn poop and jeer while they shove it in your face. It's becoming quite grotesque now with abominations like Velma and Doctor Who. This is the dark ages of entertainment.
Well put. I think they are jealous cos they don't have anything cool, fun, and awesome and they see fans enjoying something and want to ruin it for everyone.
Because they don't want anything but to destroy what everyone else's like, that's why they invade IP call for inclusion but proceed to make everything woke, erase any signs of manliness, spit hate to the fandom until they leave, they are drive by a hateful narcissistic mindset where anything not make on their image must be eliminated.
They’re doing it intentionally to create division.
Yes, agreed. They don’t have the talent or imagination to come up with their own concepts so they destroy established ones, whilst smugly grinning to their freaky friends.
Once you read about Antonio Gramsci's slow march through the institutions, this stuff all makes complete sense
I just wished that Tolkien was alive to cancel this whole show by sueing them
The Hobbit films were also more respectable to Tolkien despite their flaws.
I don't know man Alfred was a little bit too much as was that forced elf - dwarf romance.
hell no!
The Lotr had fails, but it was a nice adaptation.
The hobbit was bad...more bad than good. If instead of "THE HOBBIT" it was a movie called "13 Dwarfs with a guy smaller than them and a mage", it could have been awesome. But as a hobbit adaptation, it sucked.
Rop is a cancer...
@@AlexAlex-zt3hi Yes, but for all its flaws, The Hobbit still had SOME good, even great elements we can remember fondly.
What's depressing about Ring of Power is that there's NOTHING. No moment, no character, no imagery,... not a single thing that strikes emotion in a memorable way. In fact, I just experienced some moments where I thought "hey, not that bad..." and realized I had been in a void of boredom for half an hour before.
@@AlexAlex-zt3hi SORRY, but no! EVEN IF I do not like them at all (I never needed the reason to see them years after their release or once a year like LOTR), THEY still feel like an adaptation of Tolkien... What happens in Rings of Power and how it looks, not more than 2 ounces feels like Tolkien (1 ounce is for Durin character and the other is because of that character Adar), this is just a Fantasy series with Tolkien names glued to it. That's it!!!
@@AlexAlex-zt3hithey weren't perfect, sure, but they are far more faithful and better than Rings of Power, that's what this person is getting at.
I honestly question what makes them think that ATTACKING THE FANS, the people you need to make your show successful, A VALID MARKETING STRATEGY!? It’s beyond baffling…
Think? Making a lot of assumptions there.
My guess is they're hoping to shame people into watching by calling us racist and bigoted, as if we'll watch simply to prove them wrong. The problem with that is they've thrown those words around so liberally that they no longer have the weight they think they do.
The only answer to this is they don't make these shows for the loyal, but racist and bigoted fans, but for "modern audiences".... *shrugs*
They keep assuming that this ''modern audience'' they love to constantly screech about will come on in to replace the old ''bigoted'' fanbase that refuse to go along with their new modern and ''progressive'' world-view they want to push in these brands. But, as we know from countless other examples from Doctor Who, Star Wars, Star Trek, comic books, and numerous video games (like Saints Row), this ''modern audience'' fails to show up each and every time.
It’s lazy and thoughtless to say that people are being “racist” against their crap show, their writing is just as lazy and thoughtless, so what else should we expect from these fools?
The white elves annoyed me much more than the black one tbh, because unlike him they were "ugly" for a lack of better word. Elves are ethereal graceful beings not joe from down the street.
Yes. In fantasy fiction, elves are supposed to be indescribable in beauty.
@@markmunroe-hz8rf Depends on the setting. But as a personnal rule of thumb, if an elf sounds, act and looks like nothing different than a random human with pointy ears, I consider it a total failure.
@@benjaminthibieroz4155 Depend on the setting, but lets be real, why the hell use an elf if you depict them as generic humans anyway? It is just lame, at thet point just use humans.
@@benjaminthibieroz4155they should be ethereal to the point of almost alien.
Especially when they chose to cast Galadriel who was known for being exceptionally tall with an actress who's what? Five feet?
If Amazon wants to continue burning money they should start filming outside in cold cities so they can at least provide warmth for the homeless
Only for non-supremacist homeless you wanna say.
cant tax write off that much money for fuel...wouldn't work with modern fisc. But overpaying for this show? That's an easy money laundering op :P
Stop using Amazon then they can't make this.
Can they please just cancel the show? The first season is not saveable, in my opinion. And where the hell did the wig budget go?
I know right! It makes zero sense for them to make a second season
Don't worry there won't be a third series
I’ve read some rumors that Amazon signed a contract they can’t get out of so that’s why season 2 is here
@@zergslayer69 wouldn't be suprised if they pull a willow and delete it all out of embarassment
they must have written a cast iron contract to give 2 seasons to guarantee the actors would stay...
i can't think of any othr reason....
Guide how Hollywood makes the entertainment in the last years:
1) Purchase beloved IP with great story and great fandom.
2) Change (wokify) and retcon the story beyond recognition and drive the fans away telling them that the new stories are not for them.
3) Blame the fans for the low ratings and call them various -ists and -phobes.
4) Double down on the DIE agenda in the next IP's iterations, repeat step 3)
5) If that doesn't make money, repeat the whole process with next IP.
Africa has its own myths and legends . They are great . Do we have the opportunity to discover 'em in theaters ? No .
"Dumpster fire" is quite accurate when describing both disney and amazon.
I’m French and I have watched the old animated movie « Kirikou and the Witch ». An adaptation of an old African tale. I loved it for characters, imagery and themes.
If a French from the end of 1990s can adapt these kind of tales in big screen. Seeing Hollywood destroy our culture for browny points sickens me.
France has made some absolutely wild movies tbf.
One of my favorite movies of all time is a 1970s French animated movie called “Fantastic Planet”. It’s about humans being pets to an advanced alien species.
I wish we English we would be stronger on protecting our culture. The book and the Anglo-Saxon sagas it's based is an essential part of British culture. I include people like Jesse, as they have British ancestry too. It's our heritage.
Like the Egyptians when Netflix made Cleopatra.
@@nimblecrow sadly we don't have the balls to sue
Me to sadly leftists were allowed to infiltrate just about everything and the weak monarchy let them to and now anti White and anti European guilt/shame fetish is all the rage on top of open borders and LGBT madness.
As a French I understand how you feel, I have the same sort of anger when Netflix or Hollywood destroys our history. I mean Scott's Napoleon is a disgrace, so was "the king" on Netflix, and the worse of it is that some of the viewers who will not bother knowing the reality will end up believing that Napoleon gunned the pyramids. Same with "Dunkirk", where my grandfather fought 1 v 3 for days so the English allies could retreat, he got decorated for it, and all he and his comrades got back is three minutes where they look stupid and disorganized. I mean even Churchill in his memoires wrote that without this fierce hold WWII pretty much would have ended there.
It s all a shame, for everybody, for the respect we must pay to the Russians who won WW2 to the sacrifice of a whole generation in WW1, it goes on and on and globally, and all of this is wiped out, with the cultures, the real actual diversity, for a US joke of so called inclusiveness.
@@GuiR3X I sympathise with you. I think an Englishman doing a biopic on Napoleon was always going to be problematic. We get taught he was a menace and Wellington was a hero. It sadly does not reflect the genius of his battle tactics and how Napoleon coup saved France from the continuing excesses of the revolution and saved France from being invaded by her neighbours and carved up.
Original author, original source material and original fans ARE ALWAYS RIGHT. This is their house, their temple; you dont get into someone else church to disrespect them, even if you're atheist.
Original fans must be, at their youngest, 80 by now. Now I don't know how many Boomers are on here arguing against diversity...
@@MandatoryUserName72 I'm Gen X and you are totally missing the fucking point. We are NOT arguing against Diversity. Diversity has always been around, and celebrated, otherwise people like Eddie Murphy, Denzel Washington, Whoopie Goldberg, Halle Berry, Olivia Munn, etc, etc, etc would never have had careers. This isn't about Diversity; it's about including Black characters in entertainment for DEI reasons when the original work was written about white characters. If they want a Diversity fantasy series, write their own! They aren't including black characters because they are the best people for the job, they are hiring them because of their skin colour, which is discriminatory, and my generation has been fighting against any kind of discrimination for the last 50 years. Discrimination against white people is just as discriminatory as discrimination against black people or anyone else. Why can't you understand this?
@@MandatoryUserName72 ughhh screw diversity :)...it's funny though that they ALWAYS try to hijack the most European fantasy worlds...and Tolkien's Lord of the Rings IS European (so read full of white peoples and cultures based on European cultures, duh) and then complain there is no diversity in it and start to change it....dumber than a bunch of rocks...anyway...if they wanted the Lotr world diversity so badly...all the morons at Amazon needed to do was make a bunch of Haradrim characters, the Haradrim, the canonic/lore people from the far south of Middle-earth...dark skinned peoples:
"Swertings. Said by Sam to be the name in the Shire for the legendary (to hobbits) dark-skinned people of the 'Sunlands' (far south). It may be left unchanged as a special local word (not in the Common Speech); but since it is evidently a derivative of swart, which is still in use (= swarthy), it could be represented by some similar derivative of the word for 'black / dark' in the language of translation. Compare Swarthy Men, the Common Speech equivalent (III 73)." JRRT
In the Second Age the white numenoreans being imperialists and colonialist could have also played into their 'messaging' hahah...one of the Numenorean colonies on the shores of Near Harad, Umbar could have been plot relevant location!!!! Tolkien obvioulsy focused more on the northern western portion of the world becuase it was equivalent of the Od World Europe....hell the entire work of his started as celebration of European cultures!
"I have always with me: the sensibility to linguistic pattern which affects me emotionally like colour or music; and the passionate love of growing things; and the deep response to legends (for lack of a better word) that have what I would call the North-western temper and temperature. In any case if you want to write a tale of this sort you must consult your roots, and a man of the North-west of the Old World will set his heart and the action of his tale in an imaginary world of that air, and that situation: with the Shoreless Sea of his innumerable ancestors to the West, and the endless lands (out of which enemies mostly come) to the East. Though, in addition, his heart may remember, even if he has been cut off from all oral tradition, the rumour all along the coasts of the Men out of the Sea."
--Letter to W.H. Auden, 7 June 1955
Tolkien was exploring Scandinavian and Germanic North--the Norse mythology of the Prose and Poetic Eddas, the Icelandic sagas, the exploration of Viking heritage, and so on. Instead of race swapping they could have simply explored other parts of the world and make it lore accurate...but nope they wanted to simply change it for no reason other than their agenda. Well the Elves were called by Easterlings 'white fiends' heheh:
"The Easterlings came into the land in great numbers, and they dealt cruelly with the people of Hador, and robbed them of all that they possessed and enslaved them. All the people of Húrin's homelands that could work or serve any purpose they took away, even young girls and boys, and the old they killed or drove out to starve. But they dared not yet lay hands on the Lady of Dor-lómin, or thrust her from her house; for the word ran among them that she was perilous, and a witch who had dealings with the white-fiends: for so they named the Elves, hating them, but fearing them more. For this reason they also feared and avoided the mountains, in which many of the Eldar had taken refuge, especially in the south of the land; and after plundering and harrying the Easterlings drew back northwards. ..."
@@MandatoryUserName72 I think he means people who became fans through the books...
As opposed to fans who have only ever experienced LOTR on screens.
They must have forgot where Tolkien got his idea from for Lord of the Rings. Man was in war & the trauma helped him create this incredible saga. He wasn’t being patriarchy he was telling you a story
Tolkien's storytelling is as clean and pure as mother's milk. There is nothing patronizing or condescending about it, unlike SJW propaganda, I mean "stories."
They don’t care for the source material nor the fans.., remember “Didn’t Earn It” thats what DEI means
@@jhammer4919 I like that! DEI = DIDNT EARN IT 🤣
Guyladriel: “ you have not seen what I have seen”!!
Me: well I saw one episode of season one and that was pretty hard to watch, so I think we both have seen some scary things”!!
well, i clicked through all of them, it costed me way too much weed and only thing i found out is that there is also tempest in her :)
Rings of Power is a prime example of wanting to have your cake and eat it too. They wanted to ride the coattails of one of the most beloved authors of the past century, but they didn't want to put in the work of actually following what the man wrote.
Its clear, the "message" and "agenda" is more important... fanbase has no relevance to them anymore
$1B spent on this...truly demoralizing. But I'm here to watch them keep failing
Truly insane!
4 times what was spent on the Peter Jackson trilogy!
They spent that much to attack one race and one gender. Just think about that.
Honestly, it just sounds like a huge money laundering scheme at this point
@@Adamguy2003 Adjusted for inflation?
Tolkien was a devout Catholic, with very strong traditional and personal valves. Of course he and his whole world view are everything that modern progressives despise with a firey passion.
I think the issues with this ludicrous pile of garbage of a show are much more structural than "not catholic enough". And it would be a gross simplification to view Tolkien's literary production as just that of a devout catholic (I'm and atheist and a progressive and I respect his faith but his mythopoeia as well as his personal worldview are much more complex than that).
There's no way to know Tolkien is a christian just by reading his books. He managed to keep his faith out of them pretty well if what you say is true.
@CalebePriester It's very clear that a lot of Tolkien's faith had a major influence upon his work. Gandalf's "death" and later resurrection when he appears before his companions again in Fangorn dressed in white robes is almost identical to that of Jesus's is but one small example.
@@death-king1834This cliché of a character sacrificing himself for his friends and then being ressucted later happens in a lot of stories. I guess Jesus is the most famous case indeed. However, I don't see a relation there because, like I said, it's a cliché at this point so I would never relate it to Jesus because almost everyone who writes stories use this cliché...
While it's true that Tolkien's Catholic beliefs have a pronounced influence on his work, you can also see clear allusions to Norse Mythology, no doubt coming from his experience of translating Beowulf as a student. At this point, we might as well say Tolkien is an excellent writer because he is talented and does what sensible writers would do, rather than sweeping everything under the rug of "atheists cannot write good stories."
It's like the studio heads don't really care at this point
Honestly
@@thejessegrant at least RUclipsrs like you do have a heart and care about us the fans
Meanwhile these companies only care about what money we have in our pockets
It's spite.
Funny thing is I am in South Africa and many of my Zulu and Xhosa friends dislike Black Panther for Americanizing and American washing African culture. Understandably so, they basically put 100s of of African attires and traditions into Wakanda and gave the impression that it's all the same. Worst of all you has funeral garbs mixed with birthday garbs for certain scenes because they looked similar but were from different tribes. So they didn't even include such a mixture accurately in the correct environments.
But hey in American's eyes, Africa is all the same
In America there is a segment of people who think they know everything about Africa and its culture
They are white liberal people in Hollywood
I am a white guy from Germany and I understand you very, very well. Best example is the depiction of Cleopatra.
I know your tales are so interesting and amazing like mine, and I know this show is all about only their own narcissistic needs.
Or take 3 body problem for example. Actually I hate to see white guys there.
It was such a waste of potential! What’s me bother the most is the fact that there are non white characters in lord of the rings like the Haradrim but instead of giving them a more interesting story - we have now black elves and dwarfs without any proper explanation. Just to fulfill some diversity criteria.
Weird crossover: Tolkien’s imaginary England overrun by non-Englanders at the same time real England overrun by non-Englanders.
I'd sooner walk through Fangorn forest with a chainsaw than watch this show.
Well THAT 'S a death sentence
@Lord-Connor And less painful.
@@YellowLantern18 you aree madman!
count me in
@temuulenamartuvshin1204 We will sing the lumberjack song by Monty python.
I bet the Gollum film announcement was another middle finger from WB to Amazon! Lol 💯
It was, sincerly, i think i trust more with them and Andy Serkis,
They also bought back the original team, so there is at least a try
ya no one is asking for this crap. More fans want them to remake the first 3 lotr video games than anything else.
Children of Blood & Bone is a black/African based fantasy novel series
Wait sir? Are actually implying that studio heads should do basic research to find something diverse and unique? What a maniac!
@@SubZero-hs9xc No, that would be too sensible.
As a black man, I do not acknowledge Rings of Poo or any of its virtue signaling actors.
That title sounds metal af
That sounds very goof! Why they not try adapt something new?
@@PaulBrown-fp6ug Man, I'd hate to be used as a pawn in their virtue-signalling money-grabbing ESG nonsense. It's disrespectful to black people, and they don't care about you at all.
I haven't seen Rings of Power, and may never will 🤷🏻♂️
I'm just not interested enough to check it out
Count yourself lucky it’s rubbish
You’re missing nothing of quality
3:01 - Amazon did not need to add diverity to Tolkiens universe by changing his existing lore. The Southrons were described as being black skinned and representational of africans and the Easterlings were described as brown people representing the middle eastern peoples.
The compendiums and silmarilon that Amazon purchased does not tell stories in these regions, so talented writers EASILY could have written strong female characters that were diverse and stay faithful to Tolkiens vision
but that would require some creativity .. and creativity does not exactly grow on trees
i kept saying the same thing! set a series in harad or rhun and how they struggle against gondor or the corruption of sauron and it can be as diverse as they want!
They easily could have written diverse characters even into the existing story - Númenor at its height was a colonial superpower, there could have been merchants, sailors, ambassadors, tribal chiefs, practically whoever and whatever. But that would require the creators to actually, you know, _care_ about the lore to incorporate diverse characters in a way that made sense.
Yeah...all the morons at Amazon needed to do was make a bunch of Haradrim characters, the Haradrim, the canonic/lore people from the far south of Middle-earth...dark skinned peoples and they would have their diversity quota:
"Swertings. Said by Sam to be the name in the Shire for the legendary (to hobbits) dark-skinned people of the 'Sunlands' (far south). It may be left unchanged as a special local word (not in the Common Speech); but since it is evidently a derivative of swart, which is still in use (= swarthy), it could be represented by some similar derivative of the word for 'black / dark' in the language of translation. Compare Swarthy Men, the Common Speech equivalent (III 73)." JRRT
In the Second Age the white numenoreans being imperialists and colonialist could have also played into their 'messaging' hahah...one of the Numenorean colonies on the shores of Near Harad, Umbar could have been plot relevant location!!!! In truth though the Second Age would be ideal to show the complexity of Tolkien's world, depicting both sides, the natives of the Harad and other lands being both evil and good, and Numenoreans being both evil and good, with myriads of motivations, some actual genuine grudges between the peoples etc.
"'More Men going to Mordor,' he [Gollum] said in a low voice. 'Dark faces. We have not seen Men like these before... They are fierce. They have black eyes, and long black hair, and gold rings in their ears... lots of beautiful gold. And some have red paint on their cheeks, and red cloaks and their flags are red, and the tips of their spears; and they have round shields, yellow and black with big spikes. Not nice; very cruel wicked Men they look. Almost as bad as Orcs, and much bigger. Sméagol thinks they have come out of the South beyond the Great River's end..."
...
"For a moment he caught a glimpse of swarthy men in red running down the slope some way off with green-clad warriors leaping after them... a man fell, crashing through the slender trees, nearly on top of them. He came to rest in the fern a few feet away, face downward, green arrow-feathers sticking from his neck below a golden collar. His scarlet robes were tattered, his corslet of overlapping brazen plates was rent and hewn, his black plaits of hair braided with gold were drenched with blood. His brown hand still clutched the hilt of a broken sword."
We are offered a glimpse of the human side of the Haradrim by Sam's thought on the dead man:
"He wondered what the man's name was and where he came from; and if he was really evil of heart, or what lies or threats had led him on the long march from his home; and if he would not really rather have stayed there in peace..."
Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers Book 4 Ch. 3 "Of Herbs and Stewed Rabbit"
BlackRock, Vanguard, JP Morgan, and State Street are some of the top shareholders and they invest based on ESG and DEI. That is the problem, plain and simple!!!
Jesse don't forget Rush Hour Trilogy, it depicted Detectives both African & Asian
Love Rush hour! I’d say 2 is my favourite
Yeah man. There was a time when diversity was presented in a way that wasn't the focal point and people could enjoy a project for what it was regardless. I think of Lethal Weapon for example, where I can't see another duo as good as Gibson and Glover were in the buddy cop genre. I never even thought back then that Glover was black if you know what I mean. I think also of Coming to America, which gotta be one of the most celebrated comedies of all time (and all black cast on top of that). People loved Wesley Snipes as Blade and Kate Beckinsale as Selene...I mean the list goes one. When done right....no one cares. At all. That what's Hollywood forgot.
@@benjamingirard1984or we think of Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves
I mean it's pretty obvious also due to the setting in the 'modern world' but any sort of movie that happens in other worldly other time needs to conform to it's worldbuilding and that's what they cannot comprehend in their stupidity! :) I mean seriously there has been black and asian actors since time immemorial since golden age of Hollywood in the 20s/30s till 50s/60s and so on, there were plenty of diverse characters in ficiton already! It's not like entirely new concept :)...but all depends on the work, how it's implemented...I mean seriously who goes to watch a Kung Fu movie made by Asian and expects some wild diversity...of course it will be full of asians :). The Northman was focusing on the vikings the Norse cuture and so on..and so it had white actors etc.
Hey, It's the guy from Pitch Meeting... Love Ryan Georges reaction style to bad and 'good' movies. 🙂
Your weekly reminder to not hate watch so as not to artificially inflate viewership numbers!
I mean is not "artificially"
They still haven't posted viewership numbers😂
Evil cannot create, it can only corrupt.
I remember "Warcaft 3" and its expansion, "The Frozen Throne".
They made fan maps about Tolkiens universe better adapted than "the hobbit"...and infinite better than "ring of karen"
As I have pointed out before the forced unnatural Multiculturalism of the Rings of Power was prefigured roughly 15 ago with the British TV Show, Merlin. That show had actors that were obviously of African and Indian and Pakistani descent playing Knights of the Round table and other prominent native English characters. In addition to that, I noticed the nearly complete absence of any Christian imagery or references in that show, even when the knights were attending a wedding or funeral service "in the Chapel" of the Castle. As a Christian I found that trend most annoying, because in any Arthurian movie that is part of the official established setting just as it was in Medieval England.
I find what is going on in the created community, insane,this labeling of a movie or play or any kind of art, by saying this is sexist, or gay,or trans,or heterosexual, is destroying the created arts,we are getting generic films,that have no soul, and in general boring content, please check out what kind of films, we had in the 6o,s and 70,s that made you think.this duming down😮
I haven't commented one of your videos and it's about time I did. Brilliant, extremely well done, thank you for your hard work and entertaining channel
You’ve made some really good points here. I am more entertained by reviews of these shows on RUclips than by the shows themselves anymore.
When if was a kid, I've always asked my parents with their money to buy tickets to Cinemas & Movie Disk to watch my favourite films, now that I'm an adult who had a job to earn money for this reason, it's all a waste now
Making a show is super easy, barely an inconvenience; just make it all about THE MESSAGE
Put a chick in it, make her gay
They could've written a subplot about Sauron corrupting the East and South, having organically black and eastern characters in the story
They could've watched Eowyin's arc in the original movies and drawn inspiration to write an actual feminist character that feels real and grounded
Hell, they could've written queer Celebrimbor being seduced by Annatar/Sauron and the fandom would've probably gone "yeah, makes sense"
Yet they chose to crap all over their worldbuilding, screenwriting and casting in this half assed, condescending way that's as bigoted as the ideas it supposedly fights
Sometimes I wonder...do writers, directors or the people who pay them have their heads in the clouds, do they have bad advisors and listen to the wrong people, or do they create something divise by choice because it's free publicity?
If they'd focus more on Tolkiens storytelling, and less on politics and blackrocks money, they would have gotten fans behind their show!
Not if no one watches it. Honestly I'm more excited for Random Film Talk's reviews of the show rather than the show itself.
Only thing it will smash is any goodwill between the studio and the fans
As Asian men, ring of powers is not for Yellow men also just cant swallow that shit, but LoTR is my childhood.
They can't destroy what we already have. We may never get anything to match the Lord of the rings trilogy, and that's ok. This awful show doesn't even exist if we don't give it attention and views. Absolutely disgusting, and I haven't seen a minute of it.
Message for the show writers:
One show to delude them all,
One show to blind them,
One show confirms to us,
Success will never find them.
Something something definition of insanity.
Can you imagine if people cancelled amazon. Even just for 1 month.
What the hell was up with the old elves? That pissed me off beyond anything.
It's the death of imagination and creativity. Everything is made from spite and it's clearly one sided. It's no coincidence that the franchises being destroyed nowadays were once successful works of art that brought people together. There is a clear and present effort to divide people and to corrupt what makes us happy. Remember, the cause will always betrays you.
Me: turned TV off, sold it, and am touching Grass. Not getting indoctrinated by Ncuti Gatwa or the rest of the cast and crew of Dr. Who.
Did they really "destroyed" The Legendarium? Are you really sure? Us, Tolkienlingas, are still singing those stories to anybody willing to endure our our voices, and many a soul decides to join us in our love to His writings. We have won long ago.
Praised be Eru-ilúvatar for we shall hold the line as many times the need arises.
There's a definite element of mean-spiritedness about a lot of it. As if they know what they're doing will not be popular, or even objectively good, but that if it infuriates the kind of people they don't like, it's all worth it. That RTD and Disney have finished Doctor Who off doesn't bother them. The British audience was dwindling anyway, the US audience they hope for won't materialize (there's no sign of the show in the streaming charts), and the Tolkien Estate has ceased being run by someone who actually knew the author and cared for his vision (see also The Christie Estate, which is greenlighting abysmal adaptions of Agatha Christie's work now) and just care about money now.
And I think that mean-spiritedness seeps into the show, and turns people off.
I am looking forward to Ryan George's Pitch Meeting for it
I see my video titles continuing to get recycled on this channel over and over. Why?
I have been watching you since the Jenna Ortega videos, I wonder will there be any more videos about her in the near future regarding Wednesday Season 2?
Crazy Rich Asians is an amazing movie. I met the cast in Los Angeles, my son has pictures with them. I was in China way back in 2007, I’m from Puerto Rico. I love Asian culture, Chinese, Japanese, Korean etc
Ahahah no way! Such a great film
Tolkien gave Fantasy to the world. You dare castrate these nefarious notions upon his Eru-Iluvutar opulent proclamation. As a fantasy writer myself, these so called actors and their vitriolic boodler is abysmal and quite embarrassing.
Once all the franchises of old are grinded down by "the message" to rot in peace it will be over.
Because they can´t do sh.t on their own.
Oh it isnt? My bad. I should of told a young 12yo me when my dad gave me his old copy back in the 90's it isnt for us.
Amazon. LOTR is for everyone.
You know someone should really sue those emoji people. “🌚” this is clearly the moon doing blak fayce.
Rey isn’t a Skywalker, she is Rey Palpatine.
Cancer, it should be a literal crime to fuck up a work this bad and use it to fulfill some dumb agenda.
Using Velma as an example, their contract was for 2 seasons.
The second season was already a certainty before the production of the first.
It's also the reason why nobody, not even the authors tried to advertise the second season of Velma, not even a single tweet when the season was released.
"how do you know without watching?" .. well I don't need to shoot myself in the head to know that I won't like it
Wokesters in entertainment specifically target things like Tolkien to purposefully destroy them. They do this maliciously out of hatred for nerdom
As one who’s never watched a single second of the rings of power, I still quite enjoy Tolkien’s original work
If Hollywood wanna discard the fans, then do us all the favor and DON'T WATCH OR BUY STUFF FROM THEM
As long as they get money for ESG points, they don't need to be liked. They don't need to invest money on quality, good actors, writers, directors.
You know, more and more there seems parallels between those who call for the removal of monuments and statues and such, and the people who keep making these sort of things that wear pre-existing concepts and works skins.
It's a dismantling of the fabric and context of history, which is a very disturbing thing. An agenda of ignorance, anger and fear.
Honestly, if Hollywood wants more diversity in their Tolkien adaptations, try to do what Shadow Of Mordor did, the DLC there featured a dark skinned Haradrim as the protagonist and focused on the middle-eastern-inspired areas of Harad. Why not explore those parts of Tolkiens writings that were never really shown that much, if at all, in the books. Yes some die hard purists will call that "fanfiction" aswell but honestly with that mindset that really narrows the options for any new stories in the Tolkien universe since he left so much of it unexplained and mysterious (the Blue Wizards journeys in the East for example). And also there is no reason that people from different parts of Arda/Middle Earth would'nt mingle and have children together or adopt someone of a different skin color or even different species. Like an Easterling that is shown to be good and actually critical of Saurons influence and maybe a half elf half brown skinned human from Umbar? Either that or just tell some small stories in those areas with some more focus on those parts of the LOTR world. But I am not that bothered either way, since I fully accept that the world of Tolkien is, and always will be, western. And that's ok. Not everything has to be multicultural. Just as I have no need to see a white English person playing Sun Wukong in a Chinese epic or to see a Germanic person playing Aladdin in an Arabian folktale. People have their perspectives, and there is nothing wrong with telling a story just focusing on one group of people. If you can't connect or empathize with someone because they don't share your skin color, honestly that's a real shallow way to view the world.
Oh boy! Can't wait for Lord of the shills to come out and defend it.
Was the same with witcher. Why change what is not broken?
F em! Let them make their mistakes, let them loose money 😂
Insanity
"It's not for you, go touch grass !"
OK bye 👋😂
As a Dr who fan there is a positive : after this new doctor fails just like Doctor 13 did at least they will bring back David Tennant and Russel T Davis AGAIN to create decent stories and save whatever mess they are doing
don't lose all hope .. it's always darkest before the dawn
Sound like money laundering, but it would imply someone with an actual brain come up with it.
They could have focused on the story of the two blue wizards. It took place in the east where there were plenty people of color.
That would require knowledge of who the two blue wizards are, which "they" do not have, because "they" do not care. Peons obey the agenda of their masters, everything else is irrelevant.
As a Tolkien novice, would the content of the two blue wizards be part of the rights that Amazon paid for in the beginning?
I keep hearing the same response or at least understanding from these creators. They say they are making it for the creator to express their view or interpretation of the source material while making it for the "modern audiences." So in the end, it's not about making money. It's about making people feel seen and heard. Don't get me wrong, but there is a time and place for everything.
Why are so many movie and show producers adamant on ruining intellectual properties, and then blaming fans for not embracing their bullshit? I enjoy watching so many movies and shows flop that continue to do this. Just tell good stories with believable characters.
Why would they make something everyone hates? Because they are trying to force a way of thinking to shape a new age. This is going nowhere, and will only get worse. Unless people actually step up before it’s too late. Which it almost is actually.
Success requires following two principles that Hollywood has failed to grasp:
(a) Build IP
(b) The customer is always right.
Bob Iger said last year that Disney was focussed in "Mining its IP". Enuff said.
For whatever reason, this made me think of a book called Sirens of Titan by Kurt Vonnegut. In the book, society was in trouble as it is today. So a very rich and smart man started kidnapping people and shipping them to Mars. While building a very poorly equipped army on Mars, he created a popular mythology centered around the second coming and end times that involved a man falling to earth. So when the time was right, he had his poorly equipped army attack in a suicide mission. Every guy with a shotgun was taking them down out of the sky. It was an absolute slaughter. But from that, one of the “martians” fell to earth at the appointed time and location. And the people were renewed by the fulfilling of the prophecy. And it renewed the world. Though it was manufactured. That’s a very simplified version but it just makes me think how the woke look a lot like the martians. They aren’t the majority and they aren’t welcome by many. So maybe they are manufactured. The concept of a scapegoat is a very powerful tool in civilization, and it just makes me wonder if one day, the world is going to cleanse and renew itself in an ugly and violent release of pent up emotion and fear.
No spoiler alert?
Excellent point on story choices. And do you notice why the RT critic score always differs so much from Audience score?
They're more concerned about forcing fans to love their agendas, that's why they're constantly renewing their bad shows and making movies that feature disliked characters; they remove the stuff, liked by fans, in the hope that fans will only watch what THEY want fans to see agenda driven, non entertaining material.
"How do you know the second season is gonna fail?"
Lol seriously? Where were you since this shitshow began? It's Rings of Power for crying out loud
When five of her hand-picked warriors could not defeat an ice troll but she killed it in ten seconds, alone, I suspected. When Numenorean sailors had to hold the ship's lines taut by hand at all times, I knew.
Only the names are the same. Tolkien's breadth of knowledge of people and the world is missing. His poetic prose. His humanitarian spirit. His belief that cooperation is better than competition. It's not to be found here.
Also look at Cobra Kai, and what the creators have said about that show, they talk also about how much they love the original movies.
Dude, they aren't losing their place in pop culture, they are destroying it! I'm a black guy and I hate this stuff!!! LOL
i cant believe they want to pander to the people who dont watch their show at the expense of those who actually want to watch the show
I blame the Tolkien estate for letting Amazon do this show... twice! and Peter Jackson with the Tolkien estate for The Hobbit.
Only problem I had with crazy rich Asians was that the phrase to it was often framed as having a diverse cast. By their own supposed standards of diversity, it was anything but diverse, being all Asian, do the consistency of that virtue becomes incoherent and meaningless.
The best way to fight back is not to complain to them. Go scorched earth, leave these former beloved franchises behind, make new stories that capture people's hearts and imaginations and hold those stories tight and protect them with all your might.
The old era of storytelling is crumbling, build a new era of stories that defy this trend in Hollywood
Yeah, they shoulda made a high budget series of “100 Years of Solitude” by Gabriel Garcia-Marquez. That would be super sick, and they could make everyone Hispanic, Native, and Mestizo
I never had a problem with the show existing, its more like the 1 BILLION that have been sunk into this agressivly below average mess...
If you want to put diverse actors in a classic fantasy you can write them as travelerers from somewhere outside the middle earth. During the roman empire and the middle ages Italy and the orient were connected for economic reasons so it wasn't strange, even then, to see people from the orient in (for example) Venezia cause it was a very important commercial port