Thanks for the focused comparison. I liked the way you presented the considerations for chopping, amplification, wood vs carbon. This is a good model for sorting through the options for any gear decision.
Thank you so much! I appreciate the feedback! I'm definitely not a "pro" RUclipsr, I just wanted to share my personal experience with the two instruments. Us string players gotta help each other out 😌
I LOVE my Jay Haide! ☺ I would say, definitely try out the Glasser (and really any carbon fiber cello brand) before purchasing. It's not cheap, it's about the same price as the Mezzo, and I personally didn't enjoy the sound, at least the one I tested. If you don't mind sharing, what is it about the Glasser that is appealing to you?
@@StephanieJaimes Hi Stephanie! Thanks for the input. I’m renting the JH from Ifshin’s for now. I do like it a lot. I haven’t tried a wooden cello that I like better yet. The main reason for my interest in CF is durability. I take my cello on the bus a lot and I also want to take it with me and maybe play outside when I reach that stage. There are some places around here that have sessions where anyone can join and I’m afraid a wooden instrument would get damaged. The Glasser is more visually appealing than the others. Honestly, when I listen to the RUclips demos I really can’t tell much difference. I can’t tell the wood ones apart either. The part I’m missing is the feel and feeling the sound in my body. Not just my ears. That’s why I love the cello in the first place. Lastly, for the money. I can get a top of the line Glasser for about the same price as an intermediate level wood cello. I’m still in the hunt so I haven’t made any decisions. For now I’ll keep renting. Thanks again. 🎻🎻🎻
Hi Stephanie! I went to Ifshin’s and played the entire upper line of Jay Haide’s. I really liked the Statue Montagnana and the Vuillaume. They were my top favorites in that order. The Montagnana really has a nice sound.
I have a MF design line cello and I must say the proper soundpost setup is key to extracting the capabilities of this instrument. I also use ConCarbo tailpiece and Larsen strings and cello sounds very good and is quite powerful. Haven't tried the L&C cello yet but I would love to!
Wow! This video is super helpful. Do you feel the tone is the same for the two instruments, especially when playing high on the A string? What strings would you recommend? Thanks Stephanie. I am looking to buy carbon fiber as I play a lot of outdoor gigs and have a good wood cello that is being abused by the elements.
That’s a great suggestion! Both cellos were actually loaned to me, but I will try to get my hands on another L&C cello so I can see if changing the strings dramatically makes a difference. Due to Covid shipping delays it’s hard to get an L&C cello at the moment, at least in my area 🥲
Thanks for the video! I wish you had played a sample of both instruments in thumb position so I could hear their upper range and you could tell us how comfortable they are to play up there in terms of the action etc. But still this was helpful. I don’t use an end pin, so that would not be an issue with the MF, and I prefer its tone - kind of reminds me of a Baroque instrument. You say there are no fine tuners, but I assume it’s still possible to install one’s own? Does either instrument comes with those machine pegs up top that look like wooden pegs? The cello I purchase will be used for playing on a cruise ship. The L&C does seem like it’s more heavy duty and sturdily crafted, and it would certainly help to have a real dynamic range. Do you think its tone can be improved with better strings? Anyway thanks again- you have done me a huge favor by posting this!
Thanks for the feedback! Thumb position is an excellent suggestion, I’ll keep that in mind for future videos 😇 You can definitely alter any cello you get and later change out the endpin, fine tuners, or pegs, so it’s not a deal breaker if it doesn’t come with the features you like. But if I’m already spending a good amount of money on an instrument, I don’t want to spend more money on changing out the endpin and tailpiece. I think some minor adjustments can be done to help improve the tone of the L&C (like new strings, sound post adjustment, new bridge) but in the end I think with Carbon fiber instruments, you pretty much get what you get, which my luthier told me. So whichever instrument you choose to get, just be very sure you’re able to try out the instrument before buying and that you actually like the tone because I don’t think the sound will change much. At least that’s just my opinion 😅 Thanks so much for watching and for your feedback! I greatly appreciate hearing your perspective. Good luck with your cruise ship gig! 🚢 🎶
Thank you for this review. My 15 yr old niece is becoming a very good player, and did not know of the existence of CF cellos. I've sent her a couple of emails with links just to introduce her to the CF cellos so she'll know what she's seeing when she encounters another cellist playing one. Your review of these instruments will help her decide whether she'll need one in addition to her wooden cello in the coming years. I'm sure that the Netflix TV show "Wednesday" is going to boost the popularity of these instruments also. Thanks again.
Thanks for this awesome review! I just would like to mention that the Larsen standard strings on the DesignLine are NOT strings for solist use, but for chamber music and studying. Its the new Larsen Aurora set which offers a smooth and noble sound but not the power you might need when you want to play professionally. I this case we recommend our regular strings upgrade, which is either Pirastro Perpetual Edition or Thomastik Spirocore Tungsten (G+C) + Versum Solo (A+D). You will have a much more powerful cello using these strings.
Amazing!! Thank you for the information, and so honored to hear directly from the source! I will definitely try your string recommendation :) Thank you for taking the time to watch my video and offer feedback, truly appreciated!
I play guitar, including Classical, and enjoy playing the Bach Cello and Violin Sonatas and Partitas. I've spent a good amount of time listening to these pieces played on outstanding vintage wooden instruments. I have an interest in Carbon Fiber instruments, and I think it sounds best on Cellos. A bit of raspiness doesn't really bother me, as I liked the way Rostropovich played and sounded. 😁
I'm not a professional, but I just don't get the wood instrument bias. If it were me, I'd never buy a wood instrument over carbon fiber. I'd only buy wood if I were a full time professional player and the job I was doing required it. I've seen several blind tests with people trying to pick carbon fiber from wood, and most of the time, no one can tell the difference.
Thank you for the great comparison. I borrowed a L&C cello and installed my piezo (Fishman C100) pickup on it. It sounded lousy through the amp, far worse than my wood cello. I could not mold the sound at all. What pickup would you use with a carbon fiber if not piezo? Also, I use a Cecilio 500 as my primary cello. The body itself is actually not bad and quite resistant to South Florida weather (I play Miami/Key West). That having been said, I spent $500 to have my luthier craft a proper bridge and soundpost, make some small modifications to the body, and another $500 for excellent strings (Spirocire Tungstens on the bottom, Jargar forte on top). Having tried a million-dollar Galiano last year in Chicago, I'd say my cello is not bad at all.
I'm still carbon fiber shopping :) After trying the Mezzo-Forte, the Lewis & Clark, and the Klang, I'm leaning towards the Mezzo-Forte brand just because I really appreciate it's smooth tone.
I wondered about the fingerboard on both cellos. I have played both and on the Mezzo-forte, (not sure if your playing the one with the composite fingerboard or ebony?) I found the fingerboard to be horrid. I have large fingers and they stick really nicely to an ebony board, but on the weird mezzo forte board, they stuck way too much. I could do easy slide at all. The Luis and Clark also did that too, like my fingers could not glide over it. But the absolute worst was the "tick/slap" sound every time I played Bach with strong fingers. That drove me nuts. If your a strong finger type of player like me you hammer your fingers down quite strongly. On an ebony board this is not an issue but on the Carbon/epoxy board it makes a loud sound when the steel string hits the board. I wonder how Gut with silver windings would be like on the L&C? would it get that percussive tap sound on every note? thanks. P..S what did you think of the one you demo'd for fiddlershop? i believe they are 15k not cheap. how would it compare to these? IDK I love a wood cello. I used to think Cf was great, but I could never get the beautiful rich sound of a wood instrument.
Really nice, thanks for the review and demos! They are a tad expensive though to be honest, but cold/humidity etc are definitely a very valid reason to want to get one. Have you thought about trying electric celli like the Yamaha and NS Design?
Thank you! Truly appreciate the feedback 🤗 I actually have both the Yamaha and Ns design (yes I have too many cellos🥵) It’s true that the electric cellos are more affordable than the carbon fiber and wood instruments, but it truly depends on the context of your performance. Personally I feel wood and carbon fiber cellos are good for chamber music and generally playing with other stringed instruments. Carbon fibers are better for gigging, because they’re not as fragile. Electric is great for solo string players who play in a band/or with a dj, and for loud venues/stages. Also, great for traveling since it’s so compact. But I wouldn’t use an electric for practicing, and if you’re playing on a gig with other electric string players, you’d want to make sure your electric instruments aren’t mismatched (different brands & colors). So definitely I think context is important 😇 I hope this was helpful!
@@StephanieJaimes Thanks for that! Would be a great subject for a video then if you have both :) I have a NS Design CR4, and agree 100% with your thoughts. I do practice on it as well though late or when I can't be loud, and the dots are great to check intonation, at least for more beginners :)
Can you give me a review for Carbon-Klang cello? I am considering upgrade my instrument and i really like carbon fiber cello. Carbon-Klang is much more expansive than mezzo-forte and luis clark. Is the extra cost worthy? Is it on-par with a wooden cello that cost 12000$?
Dear Stephanie; Thank you very much for your kind Information!🙏 I'm a "Tenor,Opera Tenor,I sang 13 years on Opera Houses where I come from 🇪🇺🇩🇪 and 🇨🇭 until Corona came, and during Lockdown I started after 17 years Viola,actually wanted to become a Violist,so studied first au Conservatoire Supérieur Major Viola in Luxembourg,but destiny decided to become an Opera-Tenor,cause I knew,so many "Violonists" are switching during study to "Viola" of might getting a Job in one of the huge amount of Orchestras in 🇩🇪,I know,we are spoiled,but they are coming from all over the World,of getting a Job in Orchestra. But I knew my talent ist more in Singing,so now a deeply bad Viola stupid Joke of me,so being a bad third Violonist 🙃,I know it is silly for the Professional Violists,if I see me as an quite ok Amateur-Violist,but at least had the chance to study major before switching major voice in Conservatoire. I do my own Composings à la Alternative Music with Voice,Viola and Panpipeflute. So I bought a Carbon-E-Viola, of "Mezzo Forte",it is for us in 🇪🇺🇩🇪 "way less expensive" by us in Central Europe,cause of shipping and of customs from the UK,there is the Europe Base of "L&C",because since "Brexit"to the EU,is "Lewis and Clarke" way more expensive,and my husbund and I drove up to Mr.Kleinalstede,the owner of "mf" in Wether,Westfalia,Germany, cause I do many things in Nature,and Mr Kleinalstede said ,"wood" is absoloutly "NOT GOOD IN HUMID!!" Which someone,can logiqual understand. I've got a Wooden-Viola,from a french Luthierd'Art, "Joseph Vautrin", was his Name, 1875-1937, Viola" Anno 1909,who was a Luthier d'Art in Chaumont,Haute Marne,in France 🇫🇷,near to "the Cremona of Franc City called", "Mirecourt". Unfortunatly, Carbon Fiber is "not that" popular as in 🏴🏴🏴 UK, or in the 🇨🇮 Republic of Ireland,or by you guys in the 🇺🇸,or in 🇨🇦, here by us in Central Europe 🇪🇺,including 🇨🇭, it is "unfortunatly " still not that popular. 🤷♂️ Again dear Stephanie, All the best to you 🍀🍀🍀,and for your Performances and your path 🎻 and once again,thank you very much🙏🎻= a Cello for you,and for me a Viola😊 Kind regards from Europe 🇪🇺, German French Swiss Border Area 🇪🇺🇩🇪🇫🇷🇨🇭 ,Lörrach,Germany 🇩🇪 to the 🇺🇸 ?,or 🇨🇦 ? Yours, Joscha 🙋♂️ PS: I apologize, my English is not that good anymore 🙏
Thanks for making this video, the carbon cellos look amazing but I’m disappointed they don’t sound as good as a traditional boring looking cello. Do you think maintenance will be substantially cheaper on a a carbon cello? Assuming it only needs new strings and a bridge from time to time
Hey, thanks for you comment! 😊 I definitely think maintenance will be substantially cheaper on a carbon cello. I was talking with my luthier and he said when you get a Carbon Cello you basically “get what you get.” You won’t have to worry about fixing open seams, raising or lowering the fingerboard/neck, etc. Since I’ve been playing outside in Miami a lot the humidity really does a number on my wooden cello which is expensive to keep repairing every year 🥵 I hope that was helpful!
I actually haven't tried the Evoline but I'm very curious! I know it's a more affordable version of the Design-line and I'm not sure how that ultimately affects its sound and playability. How's your experience with it?
Hey! I have the Strad L'Ancienne model and I’ve been using it professionally for 6 years. I’m super content with it! I use it for both classical and non classical performances; in orchestras, solo concerts, rock shows, wedding gigs, etc. It’s perfect for a versatile cellist on a budget 😎
@@StephanieJaimes thanks! That’s the same cello I just bought my daughter :) she’s tiny so it was hard to find a 7/8 cello. So far we’re enjoying it. I actually wanted to get her a carbon fiber cello but none of them came in 7/8.
@@StephanieJaimes Hi. What strings do you recommend for the jay haide? Looking for replacement strings for my daughter's cello and didn't realize how expensive they are! Thanks!
Trying to compare sounds of any instrument over the internet is not exactly ideal but you can hear the differences. I agree that the Luis & Clark is a little to harsh, hard to separate tones while the MF is softer more pleasing, it sounds more in tune. Over the internet I like the MF but in person it may be a different outcome. Thats my two cents.
Its not the cellos fault that you have any missing sounds on the cello. ITS HOW YOU PLAY IT. The mezzo forte is an infringement on the luis and clark and they do have a patent on it. The company has decided that they wouldnt be embroiled of the legal issues of patent infringement because of all the expense and grief that comes with it. This Luis and clark cello was invented by a Boston Symphony cellist ( now retired ) from being a boat enthusiast he noticed how the water hitting against the boat would resonate and he made 3 prototypes. Working with boat maker who uses carbon fiber - they teamed up to make a company making stringed instruments. The cello is owned by world class cellists like Yo yo Ma and 2cellos to name just a couple. The cello player in Brooklyn Duo owns one.
Yes… it is how YOU play it BUT some instruments are just easier to play than others, aka less effort to get a “good” sound. Based on your perspective, Yo-yo Ma should be playing on a student cello, but he’s not, he’s playing on a Stradivarius 😂 and with good reason! He’s an amazing player AND has an amazing instrument, it’s a win-win. That being said, I’m sure he could rock out hard on a student cello. Knowing the history of a company is great and all, but that doesn’t change my experience with the instrument’s playability…? I’m pretty sure I said in my video that this review was just based on the experience I had with THIS particular L&C, not saying all of them are as rough as this one. And at the end of the day picking your instrument to perform on is subjective and a personal choice, there is no right or wrong. The answer is whatever instrument makes you feel good and supports you when you’re playing 😇
Your comment does not help the cello community as we have our own preference, playing ability, budget and "choice." Should we all run to the Sotherby to buy the "real" Strad and the real "Tourte" since all other copies in the history are INFRINGEMENT? Please refrain this kind of statement and put out YOUR videos for comparisons like Stephanie's who gave her very objective opinions. Thank you Stepahnie for putting out many helpful videos - I particularly love your CodaBow review!
If cellists had (somehow?) always played carbon fiber instruments and only recently played wooden cellos, they would say: nothing can beat the sound of a carbon fiber instrument. Still, a great presentation and comparison.
Hehe thank you! And that’s a really fresh perspective! It’s hard to say, because we don’t know what we don’t know… but I feel like the natural resonance of a wooden cello is so organic and beautiful, it’s hard to beat 🙌 But it’s always fascinating to think “what if..”
First review with chopping included. :) that's awesome. 💯
Yes!!! I love that Chopping is seeping into mainstream playing 😌
@@StephanieJaimes yes. I made alot of videos on it and added an album "8Phoenix8" where I use it (song name Everything Will Be Alright)
Thanks for the focused comparison. I liked the way you presented the considerations for chopping, amplification, wood vs carbon. This is a good model for sorting through the options for any gear decision.
Thank you so much! I appreciate the feedback! I'm definitely not a "pro" RUclipsr, I just wanted to share my personal experience with the two instruments. Us string players gotta help each other out 😌
I have a Jay Haide L’Ancienne. I’m interested in a carbon cello. Looking hard at Glasser.
I LOVE my Jay Haide! ☺ I would say, definitely try out the Glasser (and really any carbon fiber cello brand) before purchasing. It's not cheap, it's about the same price as the Mezzo, and I personally didn't enjoy the sound, at least the one I tested. If you don't mind sharing, what is it about the Glasser that is appealing to you?
@@StephanieJaimes Hi Stephanie! Thanks for the input. I’m renting the JH from Ifshin’s for now. I do like it a lot. I haven’t tried a wooden cello that I like better yet. The main reason for my interest in CF is durability. I take my cello on the bus a lot and I also want to take it with me and maybe play outside when I reach that stage. There are some places around here that have sessions where anyone can join and I’m afraid a wooden instrument would get damaged. The Glasser is more visually appealing than the others. Honestly, when I listen to the RUclips demos I really can’t tell much difference. I can’t tell the wood ones apart either. The part I’m missing is the feel and feeling the sound in my body. Not just my ears. That’s why I love the cello in the first place.
Lastly, for the money. I can get a top of the line Glasser for about the same price as an intermediate level wood cello.
I’m still in the hunt so I haven’t made any decisions. For now I’ll keep renting. Thanks again. 🎻🎻🎻
Hi Stephanie! I went to Ifshin’s and played the entire upper line of Jay Haide’s. I really liked the Statue Montagnana and the Vuillaume. They were my top favorites in that order. The Montagnana really has a nice sound.
Very nice review Stephanie! (:
Thank you!
Thank you for watching! 😌
that popper book in the bakcground was staring at me the whole 11mins saying PRACTICE
hahaha 🤣 It's always watching and waiting...
Awesome review Stephanie! 🙌
Thank you! 🫶
I like the Luis and Clark better visually as it looks more like an acoustic cello, and the Mezzo Forte cello sounds much better to me.
100%, couldn’t agree more! 🙌
Indeed!
Great video!
I have a MF design line cello and I must say the proper soundpost setup is key to extracting the capabilities of this instrument. I also use ConCarbo tailpiece and Larsen strings and cello sounds very good and is quite powerful. Haven't tried the L&C cello yet but I would love to!
YES thank you for this! Your feedback is super helpful. And thank you for the tailpiece recommendation. If you ever try the L&C, let me know!
Wow! This video is super helpful. Do you feel the tone is the same for the two instruments, especially when playing high on the A string? What strings would you recommend? Thanks Stephanie. I am looking to buy carbon fiber as I play a lot of outdoor gigs and have a good wood cello that is being abused by the elements.
There are reviews that Jargar strings make the L&C to sound less harsh. Will you try making comparison of Jargar and your current setup?
That’s a great suggestion!
Both cellos were actually loaned to me, but I will try to get my hands on another L&C cello so I can see if changing the strings dramatically makes a difference.
Due to Covid shipping delays it’s hard to get an L&C cello at the moment, at least in my area 🥲
Thanks for the video! I wish you had played a sample of both instruments in thumb position so I could hear their upper range and you could tell us how comfortable they are to play up there in terms of the action etc. But still this was helpful.
I don’t use an end pin, so that would not be an issue with the MF, and I prefer its tone - kind of reminds me of a Baroque instrument. You say there are no fine tuners, but I assume it’s still possible to install one’s own? Does either instrument comes with those machine pegs up top that look like wooden pegs?
The cello I purchase will be used for playing on a cruise ship. The L&C does seem like it’s more heavy duty and sturdily crafted, and it would certainly help to have a real dynamic range. Do you think its tone can be improved with better strings?
Anyway thanks again- you have done me a huge favor by posting this!
Thanks for the feedback!
Thumb position is an excellent suggestion, I’ll keep that in mind for future videos 😇
You can definitely alter any cello you get and later change out the endpin, fine tuners, or pegs, so it’s not a deal breaker if it doesn’t come with the features you like.
But if I’m already spending a good amount of money on an instrument, I don’t want to spend more money on changing out the endpin and tailpiece.
I think some minor adjustments can be done to help improve the tone of the L&C (like new strings, sound post adjustment, new bridge) but in the end I think with Carbon fiber instruments, you pretty much get what you get, which my luthier told me.
So whichever instrument you choose to get, just be very sure you’re able to try out the instrument before buying and that you actually like the tone because I don’t think the sound will change much. At least that’s just my opinion 😅
Thanks so much for watching and for your feedback!
I greatly appreciate hearing your perspective.
Good luck with your cruise ship gig! 🚢 🎶
I just came here randomly, but stayed for the the groove you played on "Stand by me"!
Hell Yea!! Thank you so much 🤘
Thank you for this review. My 15 yr old niece is becoming a very good player, and did not know of the existence of CF cellos. I've sent her a couple of emails with links just to introduce her to the CF cellos so she'll know what she's seeing when she encounters another cellist playing one. Your review of these instruments will help her decide whether she'll need one in addition to her wooden cello in the coming years. I'm sure that the Netflix TV show "Wednesday" is going to boost the popularity of these instruments also. Thanks again.
Thanks for this awesome review! I just would like to mention that the Larsen standard strings on the DesignLine are NOT strings for solist use, but for chamber music and studying. Its the new Larsen Aurora set which offers a smooth and noble sound but not the power you might need when you want to play professionally. I this case we recommend our regular strings upgrade, which is either Pirastro Perpetual Edition or Thomastik Spirocore Tungsten (G+C) + Versum Solo (A+D). You will have a much more powerful cello using these strings.
Amazing!!
Thank you for the information, and so honored to hear directly from the source!
I will definitely try your string recommendation :)
Thank you for taking the time to watch my video and offer feedback, truly appreciated!
I play guitar, including Classical, and enjoy playing the Bach Cello and Violin Sonatas and Partitas. I've spent a good amount of time listening to these pieces played on outstanding vintage wooden instruments. I have an interest in Carbon Fiber instruments, and I think it sounds best on Cellos. A bit of raspiness doesn't really bother me, as I liked the way Rostropovich played and sounded. 😁
I'm not a professional, but I just don't get the wood instrument bias. If it were me, I'd never buy a wood instrument over carbon fiber. I'd only buy wood if I were a full time professional player and the job I was doing required it. I've seen several blind tests with people trying to pick carbon fiber from wood, and most of the time, no one can tell the difference.
Thank you for the great comparison. I borrowed a L&C cello and installed my piezo (Fishman C100) pickup on it. It sounded lousy through the amp, far worse than my wood cello. I could not mold the sound at all. What pickup would you use with a carbon fiber if not piezo? Also, I use a Cecilio 500 as my primary cello. The body itself is actually not bad and quite resistant to South Florida weather (I play Miami/Key West). That having been said, I spent $500 to have my luthier craft a proper bridge and soundpost, make some small modifications to the body, and another $500 for excellent strings (Spirocire Tungstens on the bottom, Jargar forte on top). Having tried a million-dollar Galiano last year in Chicago, I'd say my cello is not bad at all.
Thanks for the vid. Did you buy the Carbon-Klang btw?
I'm still carbon fiber shopping :) After trying the Mezzo-Forte, the Lewis & Clark, and the Klang, I'm leaning towards the Mezzo-Forte brand just because I really appreciate it's smooth tone.
@@StephanieJaimes can you PLEASE try out the Forte 3D cello? It is new and there are NO videos of it on RUclips.
@@HeidiSilliman Yes! It’s on my list!! 🥰
it totally depends on the quality of your wood cello as to whether they are 'better'.
I wondered about the fingerboard on both cellos. I have played both and on the Mezzo-forte, (not sure if your playing the one with the composite fingerboard or ebony?) I found the fingerboard to be horrid. I have large fingers and they stick really nicely to an ebony board, but on the weird mezzo forte board, they stuck way too much. I could do easy slide at all. The Luis and Clark also did that too, like my fingers could not glide over it. But the absolute worst was the "tick/slap" sound every time I played Bach with strong fingers. That drove me nuts. If your a strong finger type of player like me you hammer your fingers down quite strongly. On an ebony board this is not an issue but on the Carbon/epoxy board it makes a loud sound when the steel string hits the board. I wonder how Gut with silver windings would be like on the L&C? would it get that percussive tap sound on every note? thanks. P..S what did you think of the one you demo'd for fiddlershop? i believe they are 15k not cheap. how would it compare to these? IDK I love a wood cello. I used to think Cf was great, but I could never get the beautiful rich sound of a wood instrument.
Really nice, thanks for the review and demos! They are a tad expensive though to be honest, but cold/humidity etc are definitely a very valid reason to want to get one. Have you thought about trying electric celli like the Yamaha and NS Design?
Thank you! Truly appreciate the feedback 🤗
I actually have both the Yamaha and Ns design (yes I have too many cellos🥵)
It’s true that the electric cellos are more affordable than the carbon fiber and wood instruments, but it truly depends on the context of your performance.
Personally I feel wood and carbon fiber cellos are good for chamber music and generally playing with other stringed instruments.
Carbon fibers are better for gigging, because they’re not as fragile.
Electric is great for solo string players who play in a band/or with a dj, and for loud venues/stages. Also, great for traveling since it’s so compact.
But I wouldn’t use an electric for practicing, and if you’re playing on a gig with other electric string players, you’d want to make sure your electric instruments aren’t mismatched (different brands & colors).
So definitely I think context is important 😇
I hope this was helpful!
@@StephanieJaimes Thanks for that! Would be a great subject for a video then if you have both :) I have a NS Design CR4, and agree 100% with your thoughts. I do practice on it as well though late or when I can't be loud, and the dots are great to check intonation, at least for more beginners :)
The mezzo has better tone and great chop.
The Luis and Clark has wolf tones. And is really harsh
Can you give me a review for Carbon-Klang cello? I am considering upgrade my instrument and i really like carbon fiber cello. Carbon-Klang is much more expansive than mezzo-forte and luis clark. Is the extra cost worthy? Is it on-par with a wooden cello that cost 12000$?
Dear Stephanie;
Thank you very much for your kind Information!🙏
I'm a "Tenor,Opera Tenor,I sang 13 years on Opera Houses where I come from 🇪🇺🇩🇪 and 🇨🇭 until Corona came, and during Lockdown I started after 17 years Viola,actually wanted to become a Violist,so studied first au Conservatoire Supérieur Major Viola in Luxembourg,but destiny decided to become an Opera-Tenor,cause I knew,so many "Violonists" are switching during study to "Viola" of might getting a Job in one of the huge amount of Orchestras in 🇩🇪,I know,we are spoiled,but they are coming from all over the World,of getting a Job in Orchestra.
But I knew my talent ist more in Singing,so now a deeply bad Viola stupid Joke of me,so being a bad third Violonist 🙃,I know it is silly for the Professional Violists,if I see me as an quite ok Amateur-Violist,but at least had the chance to study major before switching major voice in Conservatoire.
I do my own Composings à la Alternative Music with Voice,Viola and Panpipeflute.
So I bought a Carbon-E-Viola, of "Mezzo Forte",it is for us in 🇪🇺🇩🇪 "way less expensive" by us in Central Europe,cause of shipping and of customs from the UK,there is the Europe Base of "L&C",because since "Brexit"to the EU,is "Lewis and Clarke" way more expensive,and my husbund and I drove up to Mr.Kleinalstede,the owner of "mf" in Wether,Westfalia,Germany, cause I do many things in Nature,and Mr Kleinalstede said ,"wood" is absoloutly "NOT GOOD IN HUMID!!" Which someone,can logiqual understand. I've got a Wooden-Viola,from a french Luthierd'Art, "Joseph Vautrin", was his Name, 1875-1937, Viola" Anno 1909,who was a Luthier d'Art in Chaumont,Haute Marne,in France 🇫🇷,near to "the Cremona of Franc City called", "Mirecourt".
Unfortunatly, Carbon Fiber is "not that" popular as in 🏴🏴🏴 UK, or in the 🇨🇮 Republic of Ireland,or by you guys in the 🇺🇸,or in 🇨🇦, here by us in Central Europe 🇪🇺,including 🇨🇭, it is "unfortunatly " still not that popular. 🤷♂️
Again dear Stephanie,
All the best to you 🍀🍀🍀,and for your Performances and your path 🎻 and once again,thank you very much🙏🎻= a Cello for you,and for me a Viola😊
Kind regards from Europe 🇪🇺, German French Swiss Border Area 🇪🇺🇩🇪🇫🇷🇨🇭 ,Lörrach,Germany 🇩🇪 to the 🇺🇸 ?,or 🇨🇦 ?
Yours,
Joscha 🙋♂️
PS: I apologize, my English is not that good anymore 🙏
Thanks for making this video, the carbon cellos look amazing but I’m disappointed they don’t sound as good as a traditional boring looking cello. Do you think maintenance will be substantially cheaper on a a carbon cello? Assuming it only needs new strings and a bridge from time to time
Hey, thanks for you comment! 😊
I definitely think maintenance will be substantially cheaper on a carbon cello. I was talking with my luthier and he said when you get a Carbon Cello you basically “get what you get.”
You won’t have to worry about fixing open seams, raising or lowering the fingerboard/neck, etc.
Since I’ve been playing outside in Miami a lot the humidity really does a number on my wooden cello which is expensive to keep repairing every year 🥵
I hope that was helpful!
what measures are the cellos I see one bigger than the other
I just bought an evoline and im thinking ill sell it
I actually haven't tried the Evoline but I'm very curious! I know it's a more affordable version of the Design-line and I'm not sure how that ultimately affects its sound and playability. How's your experience with it?
Which jay haide model do you recommend? Thanks!
Hey!
I have the Strad L'Ancienne model and I’ve been using it professionally for 6 years.
I’m super content with it!
I use it for both classical and non classical performances; in orchestras, solo concerts, rock shows, wedding gigs, etc.
It’s perfect for a versatile cellist on a budget 😎
@@StephanieJaimes thanks! That’s the same cello I just bought my daughter :) she’s tiny so it was hard to find a 7/8 cello. So far we’re enjoying it. I actually wanted to get her a carbon fiber cello but none of them came in 7/8.
@@StephanieJaimes Hi. What strings do you recommend for the jay haide? Looking for replacement strings for my daughter's cello and didn't realize how expensive they are! Thanks!
The Mezzo Forte sounds SOOO much better!!!
Trying to compare sounds of any instrument over the internet is not exactly ideal but you can hear the differences. I agree that the Luis & Clark is a little to harsh, hard to separate tones while the MF is softer more pleasing, it sounds more in tune. Over the internet I like the MF but in person it may be a different outcome. Thats my two cents.
Its not the cellos fault that you have any missing sounds on the cello. ITS HOW YOU PLAY IT. The mezzo forte is an infringement on the luis and clark and they do have a patent on it. The company has decided that they wouldnt be embroiled of the legal issues of patent infringement because of all the expense and grief that comes with it. This Luis and clark cello was invented by a Boston Symphony cellist ( now retired ) from being a boat enthusiast he noticed how the water hitting against the boat would resonate and he made 3 prototypes. Working with boat maker who uses carbon fiber - they teamed up to make a company making stringed instruments. The cello is owned by world class cellists like Yo yo Ma and 2cellos to name just a couple. The cello player in Brooklyn Duo owns one.
Yes… it is how YOU play it BUT some instruments are just easier to play than others, aka less effort to get a “good” sound. Based on your perspective, Yo-yo Ma should be playing on a student cello, but he’s not, he’s playing on a Stradivarius 😂 and with good reason! He’s an amazing player AND has an amazing instrument, it’s a win-win.
That being said, I’m sure he could rock out hard on a student cello.
Knowing the history of a company is great and all, but that doesn’t change my experience with the instrument’s playability…?
I’m pretty sure I said in my video that this review was just based on the experience I had with THIS particular L&C, not saying all of them are as rough as this one.
And at the end of the day picking your instrument to perform on is subjective and a personal choice, there is no right or wrong. The answer is whatever instrument makes you feel good and supports you when you’re playing 😇
Your comment does not help the cello community as we have our own preference, playing ability, budget and "choice." Should we all run to the Sotherby to buy the "real" Strad and the real "Tourte" since all other copies in the history are INFRINGEMENT? Please refrain this kind of statement and put out YOUR videos for comparisons like Stephanie's who gave her very objective opinions. Thank you Stepahnie for putting out many helpful videos - I particularly love your CodaBow review!
@@tenorcello Thank you for feedback! 🥹❤ I'm inspired to make more videos for y'all!
You can always add amplification and low volume will not be an issue.
If cellists had (somehow?) always played carbon fiber instruments and only recently played wooden cellos, they would say: nothing can beat the sound of a carbon fiber instrument. Still, a great presentation and comparison.
Hehe thank you!
And that’s a really fresh perspective!
It’s hard to say, because we don’t know what we don’t know… but I feel like the natural resonance of a wooden cello is so organic and beautiful, it’s hard to beat 🙌
But it’s always fascinating to think “what if..”