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Netflix really is a graveyard of cancelled shows. I usually don't want to watch them because so often I've found myself emotionally invested in a show that's going nowhere. It's at the point where I'm really hesitant to watch a new show until the next season is announced.
So they should delete a show if it has zero guarantee of finishing? That doesn't make sense. And not watching a show until the next season is announced is the reason next seasons aren't greenlit.
@@7792pnaurfr first of all you know thats not what they were saying at all, and secondly the market is meant to adapt To The Viewers not the other way around.
that is why I mostly watch shows that are meant to be short (1-3 seasons) or Korean shows. damn I am still waiting for Arthdal Chronicles season 2 and Kingdom season 3, both ended on huge cliffhangers.
I think that is true for many of us I also have the same problem with W.B. and when they do that they create problem for themselves they launch a show people are hesitant because they don't want to get invested and then yeah it's canceled, but they think people are uninterested.
I was really sad when I saw his post on tumblr and learned the show got canceled. I really liked The Midnight Club and would've loved a second season. But I'm still very glad he at least didn't leave us hanging and told us what would've happened.
Sad part is that they keep cancelling these shows because of lower viewership but a lot of times i don't even know about the show before it gets cancelled. I'm sure i'm not the only one and so it feels like a lot of shows are getting cancelled before they had a chance to really grab their full audience. Just wish they'd make more shows with a clear ending plan and stuck to it, just one or 2 season of story, for it to then be something we can go back to in the future and have a good full watch of. So many shows end up not being finished and totally useless for future watching. Total waste of talent and manpower.
The Midnight Club being canceled leaves us little to no hope of having horror series on this platform become more mainstream. Mike Flanagan has an imaginative mind and he can change our perspectives on certain things if he wants us to.
@@mooma0912how? i understand it not being for everyone but this is the only ya media i’ve ever seen that treats the desired audience and characters in the story as adults
How do they decided to cancel another amazing project by someone behind three of their most successful shows? This series had some amazing potential, especially as it was marketable to both fans of previous Flanagan work and young adults/teens, and between cancelling all of their most promising shows and the new account sharing rules it's starting to seem like Netflix is actively trying to destroy its own platform.
They probably would have had to pay the writers and actors more in the second season because of the success of the first one, and because they don’t want to pay for anything they instead decided to kill the show, contributing to how they are slowly killing themselves. If you see the shows they keep, those are ones that obviously don’t need very qualified writers and show runners (see Riverdale, Kissing Booth, etc), but are still hate watched, or just left on as mindless entertainment. Because the people making it aren’t that great, they don’t need to pay them properly, and because of the people watching it ironically, they still make money. I believe that that is also why many fanfics are being picked up, because they can probably get the rights easier and still make the writer‘s carrier because they might not have a chance to see their fanfic made into a movie otherwise and pocket change for Netflix is a crazy amount of money for the writer. It sort of feels like the beginning of Fahrenheit 451, the shows that make us think and feel things, with talent behind them are being replaced with trashy mindless things.
@@Guineapigsreadingbooks That's actually makes a lot of sense, even if it's mildly infuriating. It's really sad that they'd rather screw themselves over long-term rather than actually pay good creative teams to make decent content.
@@Guineapigsreadingbooks Are you sure season one was such a hit? I couldn't bring myself to finish this one. That aside, I've read a lot of people share the same opinion that this show pales in comparison to his previous work. We could try not making comparisons but then the show would still be super underwhelming to me. I guess different tastes, sure, but it just doesn't look like it was successful on Netflix and perhaps that's why they're cancelling it, no? That's usually the case. Some shows end up being niche and not worth investing on another season.
@@Matthew-ij3zm I can’t say for sure how successful this particular show was, but generally there are a lot of shows that are really liked (once again, as far as I can tell) but still get cancelled after one or two seasons.
I'm still devastated that Netflix canceled The Glow, Mindhunter and The Get Down. Absolute gems of Netflix. Than we get waste of screentime like Emily in Paris, 365, The Kissing Booth or Tall Girl.
Why do they cancel all of the best shows, yet greenlight numerous Tall Girl and Kissing Booth movies? I'm still salty over Everything Sucks, Julie and the Phantoms, GLOW, I am Not Okay with This, and the Society, just to name a few.
Mostly it’s due to completion rates. People will hate watch Tall Girl and Kissing Booth (and younger teens will mostly eat this movies) while Netflix releases the whole season of its shows at once and not everyone will binge watch them. If people don’t watch the whole season fast, Netflix thinks the show isn’t good enough and cancels it. We got to know why Everything Sucks and First Kill were cancelled and both were due to completion rates. I remember reading that someone big from Netflix really liked Everything Sucks but almost no one bothered to finish even the first episode, so it wasn’t worth spending money on a second season because the public interested was too small and there was no signs of a possible new and bigger public for season two. I am not okay with this and the society were cancelled due to COVID but they never said the specific reason, why not just hold the shows until the lockdown was over? (Maybe they couldn’t hold the cast’s contracts?)
I’m so exhausted by Netflix’s cancellation party that I’ve rarely watched anything on that platform this past year. I definitely don’t do any random browsing there, I just watch very specific things I know I want to see. It seems like Netflix didn’t advertise The Midnight Club at all.
Fr, they suck so hard when it comes to their entertainment. They always choose the worst shows to greenlight and cancel shows that have potential, then have the audacity to wonder why their subscribers are falling and more people are pirating. No one likes to be edged only to get blue balled every. single. time.
legit I've decreased my Netflix viewing by like 90% or more in the last year due to my rejection feelings over all the cancelled shows. Sounds silly, but when it's my comfort place for a ton of fun random shows ( like it was years ago) I can't help but feel annoyed and bitter towards the 'Flix considering their platform clearly cares way more about profit than quality content being sponsored and promoted
I haven't seen The Midnight Club yet but as someone who DEVOURED Christopher Pike books as a teen (including the actual The Midnight Club book) I was really looking forward watching it. So incredibly disappointing to learn that Netflix added this show to the chopping block, a fate that other quality shows have shared. With Netflix adding the new "no account sharing" rule, they really need to step up their game when it comes to original content if they want to keep people subscribing.
If you are a fan of some specific content and would like to avoid it being cancelled, I suggest watching it on the first week of release. That’s the data Netflix uses to decide how successful any given show is and if they will renew it
I cried my little girl eyes out when I read the book as a kid so I feel your pain. However, I don’t think this particular story needed a second season. It has a soft cliffhanger that could have been built upon easily, but overall, didn’t necessarily need a second season.
@@LaFlor718 Yeah, the cliffhanger was very soft and a nice touch, especially since it did basically confirm my theory. They could’ve used the second season for more characters and more backstory, but it doesn’t need a second season. Even though I wish there was one.
I'm so glad Mike gave us the Season 2 info. To me, it would have made me love the series as much as his others to have both halves of the whole. I was underwhelmed with most of Season 1, but had we gotten at least the 2nd Season, it alone would have been perfect 💜
I adore so many Hollywood/TV show creators are on tumblr, Mike Flannagan, Neil Gaiman, and a few others. I honestly like how they are willing to answer questions especially about the shows that were canceled on them. As a film major, and screen writer. I adore that openness with their audience. They are good beans all around
I was so excited for another Flanagan series and then release day came and I had to SEARCH Netflix for it because it wasn't promoted or suggested anywhere on the app, to the point I thought I'd got the wrong day. If they weren't gonna push it on release day what hope did this show have.
Goodness, what a letdown was that series! Not enough to discourage me from reading the original comics, but STILL... somebody even DARED to describe it as the worthy successor of Dark. OF DARK!!!!
@@jacobd1984 i didn't read the comics so I went in with a blank slate, which is probably why I liked it so much. I don't think it was the pinnacle of television obviusly, but it was good enough to me that I was really dissapointed when we didn't get a season 2 and it made me cry lol. I should probably read the comics now
I hate shows getting canceled on cliffhangers. I’ll never be okay after galavant, I’m not okay with this, son of zorn, and the gifted(even though that cliffhanger sucked) getting cancelled when they did
Flanagan has EASILY become my favorite creator since all his Netflix creations (btw i can't wait for you to do HILL HOUSE!!! lol) but The Midnight Club was probably my least fave out of all of his Netflix shows. However, I am super bummed they cancelled it, so thanks for this chickadee!
I did like how non nefarious everything becomes once you learn what's really happened. Its the how the unknown is scarier than the truth. Pretty bummed this was cancelled, especially since it was apparently only going to be 2 seasons long. Like jeez. Super grateful he told us what would've happened, that was unexpected and really nice.
ugh I’m so sad about this. I loved the cast and I wanted to see their stories play out despite how tragic it would be. I feel like this was a long time coming for creators wanting to leaving Nexflix tho since they tend to cancel shows for cheaper profits.
I will never forgive Netflix for cancelling The Get Down and Sense8. It feels like they’re playing with my heart every time I get invested in a new show that gets cancelled
I'm... so early. Heck? But damn, Netflix really has a knack for cancelling the wrong bloody shows. We lose all these good shows that have actual potential, instead we get season XY of Riverdale, however many movies of 365 days and After. Just... damn.
while it's probably the next show on the Netflix chopping block i just wanna say that Warrior Nun Season 2 was pretty great and i definitely think that it would be up your alley. (first half of season 1 is pretty slow, just skip through the boring parts its fine)
I'll save everyone the trouble of Winx: there's a Sailor Moon battle, they save Skylar instead of the interesting character, and Terra's plants couldn't breathe life into either season. When I was going through Flanagan's post I kept thinking, "that''s what Amanda predicted!" I also hope there can eventually be another option. Netflix's brains are like horcruxes. Rare & hard to find.
Man, I was really lookin forward to a season 2 & it sounds like it would’ve been incredible. First Crazyhead, then Marianne, and now The Midnight Club. Maybe one day Netflix WON’T cancel my new favorite horror show after only one season 😣
When anya died in the midnight club, it reminded me of a friend who died years ago. Our friends and I said our final goodbyes while she was in a coma and this show really resonated with me in regards to that. I'm really sad this was added to the graveyard with other shows who didn't deserve this
Although I can’t forgive Amazon for canceling The Wilds either soooo hopefully they won’t dump Flanagans stuff. Also yes I’m also still very upset about First Kill… these streaming giants are just gonna lose us if they don’t stick with something
@@kookykiddo right?!?! Like it was such a strong start to the show and then they just leave it like that?!? I was like wtf why did you do this? Imagine Mike Flanagan picks it up… that would be amazing.
thank you for letting me know that The Wilds got canceled. Ugh. I enjoyed that show so much and I was so looking forward to season 3. Amazon never advertised it, so it's no surprise that it didn't do well. I watched season 1 during lockdown and didn't even know season 2 came out until earlier this year (same with Hanna),
I'm honestly super pissed that this has been cancelled, but I'm glad Flanagan gave us insight in how it would have gone. While Midnight Club falls in third place for me (HH, BM, MC, MM), I really liked this show and was looking forward to the second season. Considering how good Flanagan is, I'm also surprised they cancelled one of HIS shows. Their loss. I know he will continue to do good work and I hope he has a better time with Amazon.
I'm still salty Netflix canceled Santa Clarita Diet with no closure for Timothy Olyphant's character. It literally ends with a zombie spider ball crawling into his ear but he opens his eyes... SIGN THE PETITION TO BRING IT BACK! 😆
It sucks that a lot of these shows are being cut short but I've personally been more invested in the limited series shows or shows that are meant to be just 1 season. A real treasure just dropped a few weeks ago called First Love for anyone interested in a good Japanese romantic drama.
Super late (I'm behind and doing a binge to get caught back up to the current videos) but I loved Remember Me! I didn't realize that was a Pike novel, I haven't read the series in so long!! I'll have to look at some of his other novels now.
I remember reading Remember Me when I was younger and it really just hit me in such a deep way, the emotional journey that is that book is insane. One of my favorites for sure.
Remember me, The Last Vampire, and The Immortal were my favourite stories of his. I literally gasped out loud when you said Remember me was going to be one of the stories. Does netflix not understand how much ill will they're creating by constantly taking beloved IP's and trashing them?
I was so surprised to see that the show got cancelled, it was one of the good ones this year. Glad we could get he cliff hangers solved. The sad thing was that reading the spoilers made me think that the season 2 would have been better than season 1. Specially given the fact that they would have killed most of the cast.
Im really disappointed that Netflix cancelled s2, the acting from the actors was AMAZING and this series deserved so much more. After reading the blog post, i really would have enjoyed it on screen. Sigh, i hope he releases the scripts for the stories the kids were going to tell, cuz they seemed really interesting.
The Midnight Club was pretty easily my least favorite of Flanagan's Netflix shows (YA is just not where my heart lies), but I liked it nevertheless and am sorry it will remain incomplete. Like you, I'm delighted that Flanagan was willing to share his plans for the cancelled Season 2. Thanks for sharing them and your thoughts on them!
Flanniverse ranked in order: 1) House of Usher (by a lot) 2) Midnight Mass 3) Haunting of Hill House 4) Bly Manor 5) Midnight Club (by a LOT) Bottom line: NO ONE wants to think about terminally ill children. In addition to that, it was BORING. I absolutely LOVED the rest of his stuff but MC was really not good (my opinon).
It's interesting how most things that was ominous in the first season wasn't exactly bad in general. The couple reincarnations were just trying to find one another, Stanton was just dealing with her own problems and was a good person, creepy shadow helped them to face the worst part of themselves before they moved on and even though the janitor is death it's the more comforting representation of death
I'm so mad that Remember Me was going to be included in season 2, that's my favorite Pike series! I think The Last Vampire could make a good adaptation too, but I think that should be its own series.
I really enjoyed the midnight club, really bummed to hear it's canceled. Shout out to Mike tho for telling us what was gonna happen, I really wish more shows did that
I’ll never watch an unfinished show on Netflix after the OA. I was there, messaging them everyday, bombing their socials with so many others. It was wild. All for naught. Never again.
@emilybroderick2421 I'm at least glad that Brandon Perea got to be in Jordan Peele's 'Nope' (French was my Favourite character in The OA). Someone should cast him as Kyle Rayner in the Upcoming HBO Green Lantern series.
I was SO excited for this show. I literally counted down the days til its premiere and watched it immediately. I was so excited for season 2. Atleast Flanagan gave us some closure, he's a good dude.
Oh wow I'm excited for a mike Flanagan dark tower!! That series has needed a good movie adaptation for so long. It is a great world that could be made into an excellent series of movies. Perfect for Flanagan. The gunslinger world is so interesting and I so hope it does it justice.
Netflix: this series is beloved, by kids and adults (wether kids should be watching it or not) Netflix: let's cancel it to bring another season of big mouth and Stranger Things
Also I dont think the show was marketed well. The trailer just didn't really sell it with them just saying the code. I also don't think many people covered the show which ticked me off because they covered his other shows with this one they just ignored. One particular reviewer had said a year before the show was even announced that he read Pike's books but NOTHING from him about the show. ARRGH! Thanks, Amanda for covering this show, We Pike fans appreciate it.
I really appreciate this video. I enjoyed the series and would have liked to see more. So thank you Amanda for so thoroughly explaining the book which I have not read.
I read all the Pike books in my school library. I don't remember those titles by name but it's been many years. Probably ought to go see what I can go find sometime. Wouldn't mind catching up on whatever I missed.
I'm so bummed, I really wanted to see more. I loved that show. I've got a chronic illness and am used to discussing death with sick friends so I resonated with what they were going thru. Anyway shit.
1:44 speaking of The Dark Tower, the only Stephen King movies I've seen are Firestarter, Stand By Me and Misery. I'm not a horror fan. But the fact that ALL of his work takes in a multiverse made me want to ask, what's THEIR equivalent of Crisis on Infinite Earths?
I didn’t know that they decided NOT to do a second season until I saw this, and now I’m sad as hell. I know this wasn’t what everyone wanted, but man, it was such a beautiful show (yet again) and I wanted more. 😭
Thank you so much for this! I'm not active on Twitter so I probably wouldnt have known what happened otherwise. As someone who has seen what feels like more than my fair share of death since a young age, the show resonated with me. It hit hard and I was brought to tears and unpleasant sobbing several times.
already got teary eyed and hurting throat just by listening to amanda tell us what she red in the blog post. i am certain watching s2 would have destroyed us all - what a shame :”)
Okay, I know this is really late, but I actually read Remember me in high school and loved it but could never recall the name for some reason, and you helped me find it! Thanks Amanda!
Honestly, Midnight Club should have been a limited series or a movie. I love how they put Christopher Pike's other novels in the series. I just wish they included the story Kevin story about the angel.. it was beautiful. As for Remember Me.. that is one of Pikes' best work and deserves its own movie
Well, this is how I found out it was cancelled :( Hearing about the way next season would've gone this way was much better than reading about it would have been. The second season would have torn me to teensy little pieces emotionally, I think. Ilonka and Kevin were too dang cute (to live, I guess.).
Isn’t Flanagan also working on The Fall of House Usher? That’s probably why Netflix felt okay with canceling Midnight Club since he’s preoccupied with another project for them.
As a 90’s kid I loved me some RL Stine but I also really enjoyed Christopher Pike’s work as well so I am glad he is finally getting some overdue recognition! Really great YA Sci-Fi to RL’s supernatural stories
I’m so sad to hear of the cancellation… but glad Mike Flanagan gave us all the info to tie up the series. Saved me some tears cause even the descriptions you read had me on the verge of them, so I can’t imagine how much I would have sobbed if we’d gotten a full season 2. 😭🥺😂
I'm still not over the cancellation of First Kill😔 it was the camp sapphic love story we all deserved, taken before its time. I'm not actually surprised Midnight Club was cancelled though, it was pretty formulaic, was expecting more given how good his other shows were.
I do find it interesting that most of the time the creators don't badmouth Netflix for the axing but thank them for taking a chance on a show almost no one else would.
Yes! I also watched through that show in a milli second, and then ofcorse CANCELLED. Whats the point of giving my time tobsomething new over and over if its just gonna get cancelled after one season. It just keeps happening, ehy do they take on all these projects if they clearly havent got the funds to makr them and barely market them? I watch ALOT of supernatural stuff on Netflix and this show didnt show up in my suggested feed until acyear after release, and they wonder why the viewing numbers are low on release?
@@ninino86 because they're stupid beyond all belief and think that having random odds and ends will keep people interested instead of fully completed shows that actually interest people.
You've seen Teenage Bounty Hunters??? Man, the cliffhangers killed me especially because it seems like Netflix really left that show slip into obscurity without giving it much of a change ;_;;
I am so pissed off right now. Not even Mike Flanagan is safe on Netflix anymore. Whats the point of watching anythings first season on Netflix anymore? So many things have been cancelled lately, what the point in investing my time with a new property, when they keep and keep getting cut off at the knees, five seconds into their lifespan? Here's how it looks: Here's something new! .... Gone! Here's something new! .... Gone! Here's something new! .... Gone! When not even established directors who has delivered them THREE successfull to moderate successfull series can get a inch of trust, what the point? I really thought that they thought of him as one of their more bankable assets.
I'm with everyone who's sad and angered by yet another premature cancellation while netflix allows garbage content to run rampant. They're digging their own grave.
finally binged this over the past couple days and i went into it not knowing the plot, thinking it would just be a spooky show (also didn't realize it was mike flanagan's, wouldn't have assumed that otherwise lol). and uh. really hit close to home considering i chose to watch it over a foreign show i'm in the middle of because my chronic illness that put my life on pause the past 2 years often makes it hard to concentrate on subtitles. thankfully my illness can't kill me directly but god, so much of this show was too relatable which i always think really adds to horror media and is why i love mike flanagan's work so much. like, trying different herbs in teas bc pharmaceuticals just aren't doing enough relatable. i'm glad he revealed what was planned for season 2 bc leaving people hanging on a topic like this would have been kind of an asshole move imo. really sucks that netflix refuses to renew shows that spotlight characters that get pushed to the sides so often (disabled/ill, lgbt+, poc, etc)
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This actually makes me want to watch Netflix.
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@@aliciabell6688 Sounds like a Stephen King book adaptation
Netflix really is a graveyard of cancelled shows. I usually don't want to watch them because so often I've found myself emotionally invested in a show that's going nowhere. It's at the point where I'm really hesitant to watch a new show until the next season is announced.
So they should delete a show if it has zero guarantee of finishing? That doesn't make sense.
And not watching a show until the next season is announced is the reason next seasons aren't greenlit.
@@7792pnaurfr first of all you know thats not what they were saying at all, and secondly the market is meant to adapt To The Viewers not the other way around.
Honestly same, I have done that way to many times, now I just watch finnished shows.
HBO is going the same way. It's sad.
that is why I mostly watch shows that are meant to be short (1-3 seasons) or Korean shows. damn I am still waiting for Arthdal Chronicles season 2 and Kingdom season 3, both ended on huge cliffhangers.
I think that is true for many of us I also have the same problem with W.B. and when they do that they create problem for themselves they launch a show people are hesitant because they don't want to get invested and then yeah it's canceled, but they think people are uninterested.
I was really sad when I saw his post on tumblr and learned the show got canceled. I really liked The Midnight Club and would've loved a second season. But I'm still very glad he at least didn't leave us hanging and told us what would've happened.
FUCK I thought it was a lie, noooooooooooo I'm going to SCREAM, that was the best show, GODDAMN IT
Midnight Club was horrible, so boring and disappointing after haunting of hill house
I would love to see more of Pike's work adapted and updated, I'm so disappointed.
What would've happened? Goddammit :(
I thought it was going to be a limited series based on Flanagan’s other miniseries
Sad part is that they keep cancelling these shows because of lower viewership but a lot of times i don't even know about the show before it gets cancelled. I'm sure i'm not the only one and so it feels like a lot of shows are getting cancelled before they had a chance to really grab their full audience. Just wish they'd make more shows with a clear ending plan and stuck to it, just one or 2 season of story, for it to then be something we can go back to in the future and have a good full watch of. So many shows end up not being finished and totally useless for future watching. Total waste of talent and manpower.
That's exactly what they tend to do, they don't promote à lot of their New shows/movie. Just the day it will be release and that's it.
Also they don’t promote the shows.. I binged watched season 1 of dark when I was told about it season popped up burned through it.
I mean, I finished watching Midnight Club tonight, so yeaaah... thanks Netflix
That’s a good point. Hadn’t considered that aspect.
I mean, a lot of people watched this show. Along with many other shows they tend to cancel them just because they aren't stranger things or Wednesday.
The Midnight Club being canceled leaves us little to no hope of having horror series on this platform become more mainstream. Mike Flanagan has an imaginative mind and he can change our perspectives on certain things if he wants us to.
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This show just wasnt that good, his other work is not getting cancelled. I dont want lazy horror shows with writing on par to Riverdale stay
@@mooma0912how? i understand it not being for everyone but this is the only ya media i’ve ever seen that treats the desired audience and characters in the story as adults
Yeah, I loved the show and wish it got another season. It’s not for everyone, but there is an audience for it and I wish they were better represented.
How do they decided to cancel another amazing project by someone behind three of their most successful shows? This series had some amazing potential, especially as it was marketable to both fans of previous Flanagan work and young adults/teens, and between cancelling all of their most promising shows and the new account sharing rules it's starting to seem like Netflix is actively trying to destroy its own platform.
They probably would have had to pay the writers and actors more in the second season because of the success of the first one, and because they don’t want to pay for anything they instead decided to kill the show, contributing to how they are slowly killing themselves. If you see the shows they keep, those are ones that obviously don’t need very qualified writers and show runners (see Riverdale, Kissing Booth, etc), but are still hate watched, or just left on as mindless entertainment. Because the people making it aren’t that great, they don’t need to pay them properly, and because of the people watching it ironically, they still make money. I believe that that is also why many fanfics are being picked up, because they can probably get the rights easier and still make the writer‘s carrier because they might not have a chance to see their fanfic made into a movie otherwise and pocket change for Netflix is a crazy amount of money for the writer.
It sort of feels like the beginning of Fahrenheit 451, the shows that make us think and feel things, with talent behind them are being replaced with trashy mindless things.
What’s amazing about it? We use that word for anything even remotely enjoyable
@@Guineapigsreadingbooks That's actually makes a lot of sense, even if it's mildly infuriating. It's really sad that they'd rather screw themselves over long-term rather than actually pay good creative teams to make decent content.
@@Guineapigsreadingbooks Are you sure season one was such a hit? I couldn't bring myself to finish this one. That aside, I've read a lot of people share the same opinion that this show pales in comparison to his previous work. We could try not making comparisons but then the show would still be super underwhelming to me. I guess different tastes, sure, but it just doesn't look like it was successful on Netflix and perhaps that's why they're cancelling it, no? That's usually the case. Some shows end up being niche and not worth investing on another season.
@@Matthew-ij3zm I can’t say for sure how successful this particular show was, but generally there are a lot of shows that are really liked (once again, as far as I can tell) but still get cancelled after one or two seasons.
I'm still devastated that Netflix canceled The Glow, Mindhunter and The Get Down. Absolute gems of Netflix. Than we get waste of screentime like Emily in Paris, 365, The Kissing Booth or Tall Girl.
I remember The Get Down and I was so excited to see more of it... what a shame they had to cancel it
Emily in Paris is not bad at all.
THEN we get....
Why do they cancel all of the best shows, yet greenlight numerous Tall Girl and Kissing Booth movies? I'm still salty over Everything Sucks, Julie and the Phantoms, GLOW, I am Not Okay with This, and the Society, just to name a few.
Those cancellations HURTED
Mostly it’s due to completion rates. People will hate watch Tall Girl and Kissing Booth (and younger teens will mostly eat this movies) while Netflix releases the whole season of its shows at once and not everyone will binge watch them. If people don’t watch the whole season fast, Netflix thinks the show isn’t good enough and cancels it. We got to know why Everything Sucks and First Kill were cancelled and both were due to completion rates. I remember reading that someone big from Netflix really liked Everything Sucks but almost no one bothered to finish even the first episode, so it wasn’t worth spending money on a second season because the public interested was too small and there was no signs of a possible new and bigger public for season two. I am not okay with this and the society were cancelled due to COVID but they never said the specific reason, why not just hold the shows until the lockdown was over? (Maybe they couldn’t hold the cast’s contracts?)
GLOW was also because of the covid lockdown :(
.The Society was INCREDIBLY flawed but I'd still take more of it over Tall Girl anything. ::sigh:: were not the target demo any more folks
Julie and the Phantoms season 2 has been cancelled?!!! I still had hope...
I’m so exhausted by Netflix’s cancellation party that I’ve rarely watched anything on that platform this past year. I definitely don’t do any random browsing there, I just watch very specific things I know I want to see. It seems like Netflix didn’t advertise The Midnight Club at all.
Fr, they suck so hard when it comes to their entertainment. They always choose the worst shows to greenlight and cancel shows that have potential, then have the audacity to wonder why their subscribers are falling and more people are pirating. No one likes to be edged only to get blue balled every. single. time.
legit I've decreased my Netflix viewing by like 90% or more in the last year due to my rejection feelings over all the cancelled shows. Sounds silly, but when it's my comfort place for a ton of fun random shows ( like it was years ago) I can't help but feel annoyed and bitter towards the 'Flix considering their platform clearly cares way more about profit than quality content being sponsored and promoted
I think I will be angry about The Baby Sitters Club forever.
I haven't seen The Midnight Club yet but as someone who DEVOURED Christopher Pike books as a teen (including the actual The Midnight Club book) I was really looking forward watching it. So incredibly disappointing to learn that Netflix added this show to the chopping block, a fate that other quality shows have shared.
With Netflix adding the new "no account sharing" rule, they really need to step up their game when it comes to original content if they want to keep people subscribing.
@@osric729We should be more vocal to let them know why we unsub, or they’ll just keep canceling shows.
If you are a fan of some specific content and would like to avoid it being cancelled, I suggest watching it on the first week of release. That’s the data Netflix uses to decide how successful any given show is and if they will renew it
I cried my little girl eyes out when I read the book as a kid so I feel your pain. However, I don’t think this particular story needed a second season. It has a soft cliffhanger that could have been built upon easily, but overall, didn’t necessarily need a second season.
Dont devour books dude, read them.
@@LaFlor718 Yeah, the cliffhanger was very soft and a nice touch, especially since it did basically confirm my theory. They could’ve used the second season for more characters and more backstory, but it doesn’t need a second season. Even though I wish there was one.
I'm so glad Mike gave us the Season 2 info. To me, it would have made me love the series as much as his others to have both halves of the whole. I was underwhelmed with most of Season 1, but had we gotten at least the 2nd Season, it alone would have been perfect 💜
I adore so many Hollywood/TV show creators are on tumblr, Mike Flannagan, Neil Gaiman, and a few others. I honestly like how they are willing to answer questions especially about the shows that were canceled on them. As a film major, and screen writer. I adore that openness with their audience. They are good beans all around
I was so excited for another Flanagan series and then release day came and I had to SEARCH Netflix for it because it wasn't promoted or suggested anywhere on the app, to the point I thought I'd got the wrong day. If they weren't gonna push it on release day what hope did this show have.
“I’m sure Amazon will treat him right” *cries in paper girls* 😭
Goodness, what a letdown was that series! Not enough to discourage me from reading the original comics, but STILL... somebody even DARED to describe it as the worthy successor of Dark. OF DARK!!!!
@@kronk2.094 oh wow I love the show but I definitely wouldn’t put it up there with dark that’s just wild 🤣
I really wanted to like that show, but it just kept falling short of the comic. The actresses did a good job at least.
@@jacobd1984 i didn't read the comics so I went in with a blank slate, which is probably why I liked it so much. I don't think it was the pinnacle of television obviusly, but it was good enough to me that I was really dissapointed when we didn't get a season 2 and it made me cry lol. I should probably read the comics now
I hate shows getting canceled on cliffhangers. I’ll never be okay after galavant, I’m not okay with this, son of zorn, and the gifted(even though that cliffhanger sucked) getting cancelled when they did
Insert rant about Wolf Lake here.
And about "I'm not okay with this"
@@geedude314 I've watched it 3-4 times now and love it so much, so not okay with it being cancelled 😭
I miss galavant so much 😭😭
I will never be ok with Galavant being cancelled!!!
Damn, not even surprised, but it is sad. Also, I'd LOVE a Netflix's Wednesday video analysis from you sm
Working on it now! Might be a bit less detailed than usual because I need to travel next week but it's on the way unless something happens :)
@@AmandaTheJedi YAY I LOVE U QUEEN
first kill getting canceled is a crime against god.
Flanagan has EASILY become my favorite creator since all his Netflix creations (btw i can't wait for you to do HILL HOUSE!!! lol) but The Midnight Club was probably my least fave out of all of his Netflix shows. However, I am super bummed they cancelled it, so thanks for this chickadee!
What else did he do?
@@LagunaLeonhart midnight mass, haunting of bly manor, doctor sleep
Gerald’s game is a good one too
@@LagunaLeonhartalso Hush, Oculus, Somnia
@@silverring8186 i had no idea he did geralds game! holy shit! that definitely tracks tho lol
I did like how non nefarious everything becomes once you learn what's really happened. Its the how the unknown is scarier than the truth. Pretty bummed this was cancelled, especially since it was apparently only going to be 2 seasons long. Like jeez. Super grateful he told us what would've happened, that was unexpected and really nice.
ugh I’m so sad about this. I loved the cast and I wanted to see their stories play out despite how tragic it would be. I feel like this was a long time coming for creators wanting to leaving Nexflix tho since they tend to cancel shows for cheaper profits.
I will never forgive Netflix for cancelling The Get Down and Sense8. It feels like they’re playing with my heart every time I get invested in a new show that gets cancelled
yes. I started tearing when u said dead doesn’t mean gone
I'm... so early. Heck?
But damn, Netflix really has a knack for cancelling the wrong bloody shows. We lose all these good shows that have actual potential, instead we get season XY of Riverdale, however many movies of 365 days and After. Just... damn.
while it's probably the next show on the Netflix chopping block i just wanna say that Warrior Nun Season 2 was pretty great and i definitely think that it would be up your alley. (first half of season 1 is pretty slow, just skip through the boring parts its fine)
This show was amazing, I really developed a relationship with the cast, it hurts that the show was cancelled
I'll save everyone the trouble of Winx: there's a Sailor Moon battle, they save Skylar instead of the interesting character, and Terra's plants couldn't breathe life into either season.
When I was going through Flanagan's post I kept thinking, "that''s what Amanda predicted!" I also hope there can eventually be another option.
Netflix's brains are like horcruxes. Rare & hard to find.
Everyone needs a good psychopomp to help guide them through death. Glad the janitor was there for them.
I liked the show there were some flaws but I do think a season 2 would’ve done some good answering some open ended questions
Ikr i really like the show but i wanted to see what the deal was with the old lady and the old man
Man, I was really lookin forward to a season 2 & it sounds like it would’ve been incredible. First Crazyhead, then Marianne, and now The Midnight Club. Maybe one day Netflix WON’T cancel my new favorite horror show after only one season 😣
When anya died in the midnight club, it reminded me of a friend who died years ago. Our friends and I said our final goodbyes while she was in a coma and this show really resonated with me in regards to that. I'm really sad this was added to the graveyard with other shows who didn't deserve this
This cancellation hurt, but if its sacrifice means we finally get a proper DARK TOWER adaptation..."A small price to pay for salvation."
Although I can’t forgive Amazon for canceling The Wilds either soooo hopefully they won’t dump Flanagans stuff.
Also yes I’m also still very upset about First Kill… these streaming giants are just gonna lose us if they don’t stick with something
I am so upset about The Wilds
I’ll truly never forgive Prime for the Wilds, genuinely one of my favorite shows of all time. The cliffhanger it ended on….I could actually cry lolol
@@kookykiddo right?!?! Like it was such a strong start to the show and then they just leave it like that?!? I was like wtf why did you do this? Imagine Mike Flanagan picks it up… that would be amazing.
@@xxDeeMmmVeexx literallyyyy ugh. I’d be so happy if that happened but I won’t get my hopes up. I wish though 😭
thank you for letting me know that The Wilds got canceled. Ugh. I enjoyed that show so much and I was so looking forward to season 3. Amazon never advertised it, so it's no surprise that it didn't do well. I watched season 1 during lockdown and didn't even know season 2 came out until earlier this year (same with Hanna),
Ngl im kinda surprised you havent watched or maybe havent talked about Warrior nun 😗😗😗 i feel like itd be right up your alley
I'm honestly super pissed that this has been cancelled, but I'm glad Flanagan gave us insight in how it would have gone. While Midnight Club falls in third place for me (HH, BM, MC, MM), I really liked this show and was looking forward to the second season. Considering how good Flanagan is, I'm also surprised they cancelled one of HIS shows. Their loss. I know he will continue to do good work and I hope he has a better time with Amazon.
I'm still salty Netflix canceled Santa Clarita Diet with no closure for Timothy Olyphant's character. It literally ends with a zombie spider ball crawling into his ear but he opens his eyes... SIGN THE PETITION TO BRING IT BACK! 😆
Finally someone who gets me. Like what a load of garbage
Oh I'm so sad The Midnight Club isn't coming back - thank you so much for this video Amanda
It sucks that a lot of these shows are being cut short but I've personally been more invested in the limited series shows or shows that are meant to be just 1 season. A real treasure just dropped a few weeks ago called First Love for anyone interested in a good Japanese romantic drama.
Super late (I'm behind and doing a binge to get caught back up to the current videos) but I loved Remember Me! I didn't realize that was a Pike novel, I haven't read the series in so long!! I'll have to look at some of his other novels now.
I remember reading Remember Me when I was younger and it really just hit me in such a deep way, the emotional journey that is that book is insane. One of my favorites for sure.
I am so upset this show got cancelled, I just finished it a couple of weeks ago and was so excited to see the second season :(
Remember me, The Last Vampire, and The Immortal were my favourite stories of his. I literally gasped out loud when you said Remember me was going to be one of the stories. Does netflix not understand how much ill will they're creating by constantly taking beloved IP's and trashing them?
I was so surprised to see that the show got cancelled, it was one of the good ones this year. Glad we could get he cliff hangers solved. The sad thing was that reading the spoilers made me think that the season 2 would have been better than season 1. Specially given the fact that they would have killed most of the cast.
Im really disappointed that Netflix cancelled s2, the acting from the actors was AMAZING and this series deserved so much more. After reading the blog post, i really would have enjoyed it on screen. Sigh, i hope he releases the scripts for the stories the kids were going to tell, cuz they seemed really interesting.
I didn’t read too many Christopher Pike books but Remember Me was very strong and memorable
not me starting to cry while watching this (especially every time you mention Kevin dying)
The Midnight Club was pretty easily my least favorite of Flanagan's Netflix shows (YA is just not where my heart lies), but I liked it nevertheless and am sorry it will remain incomplete. Like you, I'm delighted that Flanagan was willing to share his plans for the cancelled Season 2. Thanks for sharing them and your thoughts on them!
Flanniverse ranked in order:
1) House of Usher (by a lot)
2) Midnight Mass
3) Haunting of Hill House
4) Bly Manor
5) Midnight Club (by a LOT)
Bottom line: NO ONE wants to think about terminally ill children. In addition to that, it was BORING. I absolutely LOVED the rest of his stuff but MC was really not good (my opinon).
It's interesting how most things that was ominous in the first season wasn't exactly bad in general. The couple reincarnations were just trying to find one another, Stanton was just dealing with her own problems and was a good person, creepy shadow helped them to face the worst part of themselves before they moved on and even though the janitor is death it's the more comforting representation of death
Thanks so much for this video. I had no idea there was going to be s2, or that it got cancelled. I only just finished the show.
I'm so mad that Remember Me was going to be included in season 2, that's my favorite Pike series! I think The Last Vampire could make a good adaptation too, but I think that should be its own series.
I really enjoyed the midnight club, really bummed to hear it's canceled. Shout out to Mike tho for telling us what was gonna happen, I really wish more shows did that
I’ll never watch an unfinished show on Netflix after the OA. I was there, messaging them everyday, bombing their socials with so many others. It was wild. All for naught. Never again.
God, losing the OA hurt... it still does
@emilybroderick2421 I'm at least glad that Brandon Perea got to be in Jordan Peele's 'Nope' (French was my Favourite character in The OA).
Someone should cast him as Kyle Rayner in the Upcoming HBO Green Lantern series.
Loved the show!!
Aaaawe man I really loved this show 😭 I was sure it was going to get a 2nd season
I was SO excited for this show. I literally counted down the days til its premiere and watched it immediately. I was so excited for season 2.
Atleast Flanagan gave us some closure, he's a good dude.
Oh wow I'm excited for a mike Flanagan dark tower!! That series has needed a good movie adaptation for so long. It is a great world that could be made into an excellent series of movies. Perfect for Flanagan. The gunslinger world is so interesting and I so hope it does it justice.
bless you for doing all these mike flanagan videos. i'm too chicken to watch his stuff but i love hearing about the emotional beats
okay … totally makes sense that they would focus on anya, she was just in house of usher … it was her time to shine
Netflix: this series is beloved, by kids and adults (wether kids should be watching it or not)
Netflix: let's cancel it to bring another season of big mouth and Stranger Things
Also I dont think the show was marketed well. The trailer just didn't really sell it with them just saying the code. I also don't think many people covered the show which ticked me off because they covered his other shows with this one they just ignored. One particular reviewer had said a year before the show was even announced that he read Pike's books but NOTHING from him about the show. ARRGH! Thanks, Amanda for covering this show, We Pike fans appreciate it.
I love this sort of video! It feels behind the scenes and forbidden
I really appreciate this video. I enjoyed the series and would have liked to see more. So thank you Amanda for so thoroughly explaining the book which I have not read.
Well that hurts… This might be my villain origin story tbh, Netflix have gotten away with this too many times ;-;
Honestly almost all of the Pike books would make great movies/series Remeber Me, Last Act, The Weekend, Slumber Party soooo good
For sure, I think they would make great teen horror movies/series!
I read all the Pike books in my school library. I don't remember those titles by name but it's been many years. Probably ought to go see what I can go find sometime. Wouldn't mind catching up on whatever I missed.
I read so many of his books back in middle and highschool. I loved the thirst series but to this day I'm still confused by the ending.
I'm so bummed, I really wanted to see more. I loved that show. I've got a chronic illness and am used to discussing death with sick friends so I resonated with what they were going thru. Anyway shit.
3:30 Stella and Bloom is a good take, speaking as someone who watched the cartoon back in the day
1:44 speaking of The Dark Tower, the only Stephen King movies I've seen are Firestarter, Stand By Me and Misery. I'm not a horror fan. But the fact that ALL of his work takes in a multiverse made me want to ask, what's THEIR equivalent of Crisis on Infinite Earths?
Are you asking what the plot to the Dark Tower is? I can elaborate, with very few spoilers, if you are interested.
Sure. Ok
I didn’t know that they decided NOT to do a second season until I saw this, and now I’m sad as hell. I know this wasn’t what everyone wanted, but man, it was such a beautiful show (yet again) and I wanted more. 😭
Thank you so much for this! I'm not active on Twitter so I probably wouldnt have known what happened otherwise. As someone who has seen what feels like more than my fair share of death since a young age, the show resonated with me. It hit hard and I was brought to tears and unpleasant sobbing several times.
already got teary eyed and hurting throat just by listening to amanda tell us what she red in the blog post.
i am certain watching s2 would have destroyed us all - what a shame :”)
I’m still not okay that Netflix cancelled ‘I’m not okay with this’
Please make a video about OA, it’s an underrated gem from Netflix!!!
I love your “random” content, hell I love all your content! Thank you for keeping us in the loop because I’d have been lost forever.
I'm so bummed it was cancelled, I would have loved to see all this play out on screen :(
Okay, I know this is really late, but I actually read Remember me in high school and loved it but could never recall the name for some reason, and you helped me find it! Thanks Amanda!
Honestly, Midnight Club should have been a limited series or a movie. I love how they put Christopher Pike's other novels in the series. I just wish they included the story Kevin story about the angel.. it was beautiful. As for Remember Me.. that is one of Pikes' best work and deserves its own movie
I saw his post, was going to read it, but never got around to it. Also reading is hard.
Thank you so much, you telling the story was the next best thing after getting an actual season 2 😭❤️
I'll never get over the OA and Sense8 being cancelled and that was years ago.
Well, this is how I found out it was cancelled :( Hearing about the way next season would've gone this way was much better than reading about it would have been. The second season would have torn me to teensy little pieces emotionally, I think. Ilonka and Kevin were too dang cute (to live, I guess.).
I needed this. So glad he gave us the details and happy to made the vidoe because otherwise I probably never would have known.
Amanda i have just one quick question. Are you making hats you wear yourself? Very lovely stuff =]
Isn’t Flanagan also working on The Fall of House Usher? That’s probably why Netflix felt okay with canceling Midnight Club since he’s preoccupied with another project for them.
Fall of the house of usher has been finished since early this year I believe, it’s in the final editing process for release early/mid next year
As a 90’s kid I loved me some RL Stine but I also really enjoyed Christopher Pike’s work as well so I am glad he is finally getting some overdue recognition! Really great YA Sci-Fi to RL’s supernatural stories
I’m so sad to hear of the cancellation… but glad Mike Flanagan gave us all the info to tie up the series.
Saved me some tears cause even the descriptions you read had me on the verge of them, so I can’t imagine how much I would have sobbed if we’d gotten a full season 2. 😭🥺😂
Netflix does horror so dirty. I'll never forgive them for cancelling Marianne.
We are really hoping warrior nun doesn’t get the ax too. It would be super nice a video from you about the show 😊
Did I almost cry while watching the video? I absolutely did.
The cancellation of Teenage Bounty Hunters was the last straw in my divorce with Netflix. They are worse than Fox in the 90s.
I'm still not over the cancellation of First Kill😔 it was the camp sapphic love story we all deserved, taken before its time. I'm not actually surprised Midnight Club was cancelled though, it was pretty formulaic, was expecting more given how good his other shows were.
I do find it interesting that most of the time the creators don't badmouth Netflix for the axing but thank them for taking a chance on a show almost no one else would.
wait your *favorite* was Bly Manor? idk bout that one man
I'm still mad Netflix cancelled "the imperfects". I really liked this show
omg noooo I just finished that one, it was left on such a big cliffhanger too
Yes! I also watched through that show in a milli second, and then ofcorse CANCELLED.
Whats the point of giving my time tobsomething new over and over if its just gonna get cancelled after one season. It just keeps happening, ehy do they take on all these projects if they clearly havent got the funds to makr them and barely market them?
I watch ALOT of supernatural stuff on Netflix and this show didnt show up in my suggested feed until acyear after release, and they wonder why the viewing numbers are low on release?
WAIT ALREADY???? it was literally just released i wanted to watch it 😭😭😭
@@ninino86 because they're stupid beyond all belief and think that having random odds and ends will keep people interested instead of fully completed shows that actually interest people.
Why on earth has Netflix not done what they could to keep Flanagan?
You've seen Teenage Bounty Hunters??? Man, the cliffhangers killed me especially because it seems like Netflix really left that show slip into obscurity without giving it much of a change ;_;;
Its fine.... im not crying....
I am so pissed off right now. Not even Mike Flanagan is safe on Netflix anymore. Whats the point of watching anythings first season on Netflix anymore? So many things have been cancelled lately, what the point in investing my time with a new property, when they keep and keep getting cut off at the knees, five seconds into their lifespan?
Here's how it looks:
Here's something new! .... Gone!
Here's something new! .... Gone!
Here's something new! .... Gone!
When not even established directors who has delivered them THREE successfull to moderate successfull series can get a inch of trust, what the point?
I really thought that they thought of him as one of their more bankable assets.
Aw, that's really nice. To give fans a conclusion, even if not in the perfect way.
I'm with everyone who's sad and angered by yet another premature cancellation while netflix allows garbage content to run rampant. They're digging their own grave.
finally binged this over the past couple days and i went into it not knowing the plot, thinking it would just be a spooky show (also didn't realize it was mike flanagan's, wouldn't have assumed that otherwise lol). and uh. really hit close to home considering i chose to watch it over a foreign show i'm in the middle of because my chronic illness that put my life on pause the past 2 years often makes it hard to concentrate on subtitles. thankfully my illness can't kill me directly but god, so much of this show was too relatable which i always think really adds to horror media and is why i love mike flanagan's work so much. like, trying different herbs in teas bc pharmaceuticals just aren't doing enough relatable. i'm glad he revealed what was planned for season 2 bc leaving people hanging on a topic like this would have been kind of an asshole move imo. really sucks that netflix refuses to renew shows that spotlight characters that get pushed to the sides so often (disabled/ill, lgbt+, poc, etc)