Picked up goalie gear 7 years ago and been a tendy since. Finally decided to play out, and it's so incredibly hard to get comfortable on my outside edge. After all these years using only inside edge and having my legs in a wide stance, it's hard to break the habit. But this is extremely informative. I still have a ways to go, but I try to watch these kind of videos before every skate
Really great advice, I've got the same issue where I start stopping on my outside edge during a right glide turn, this video was a great explanation as to why that occurs
we had practice yesterday with 20 players, doing tight turns and the coach asked everyone, who is able to put their weight on their front foot when turning and using that outside edge, only one guy raised his hand, this might be the hardest thing ive encountered, and i still cant figure out why im unable to do it, when i cross over i can use that outside edge, but with tight turns i just shift all my weight to my back foot using that inside edge
This is a very common problem with players, the outside edge is the hardest to get comfortable using. The way to get better on your outside edge is to begin very slowly, and simply do wide turns on only your outside edge (lift other leg off of the ice), while turning hold your weight on the outside edge for as long as you can. It will be short holds at first but you will get more comfortable as you practice. Once you get comfortable at slow speeds then you can add more speed to the 1-legged glide on outside edge. The biggest problem is players don't feel comfortable holding their weight on their outside edge, it is an uncomfortable position to be in. Continue to practice very slowly, add speed then add your second leg to perform a proper glide turn. Good luck.
This is really good I've gotten really good with glide turns but I really want to try and learn cutbacks and real sharp turns where you change in another direction real quick. Those look really helpful in a real game
Yes for sure, quick turns/cut backs are great skills to learn to get away from opponents. Now that you've improved your glide turns the tighter turns get a little easier with some practice. Best of luck.
Thank you for the message. The outside edge is difficult for a lot of players, continue to work on it every time your on the ice and you'll notice some great improvements over time. Good luck
A lot of novice to intermediate skaters do all kinds of things other than having a proper outside edge on tight turns. You get players with inside skate chatter, some players lift it completely off the ice, some are doing a half-assed snowplow/punch turn without knowing it, some players torque their foot weirdly into an exaggerated inside edge, etc. It's very difficult to correct in my experience. My own dang daughter went from doing it good to somehow losing it over the course of a season. I'll give some of these ideas a shot. I have already been doing the outside edge c shape drill, and tried a feet together slalom skiing type drill as well. Any other bright ideas as far as coaching cues goes? I feel like the main thing is players don't know how to start the turn.
This is a very common problem with young players, not utilizing their outside edge properly in and out of turns. The main reason is the outside edge is more difficult to keep on the ice and most of this comes from balance and confidence on that edge. Having players doing 1-leg turns on their outside edge is great and forcing them to lean on that edge so they can feel their edge gliding on the ice and not sliding. Once players feel comfortable with the outside edge grabbing the ice and not sliding they usually start to perform their turns properly. The biggest thing is them leaning on that edge and having the confidence to trust it in and out of turns.
Great question, I would recommend not bending your ankle when on your edges, some players tend to bend their ankle so they can get use or dig their edge into the ice. Keep your ankle normal in your skate (no bending) and lean in to the turn more, trusting your edge. Start slow with wide turns to begin and as you get more comfortable you can add speed and tighter turns. I hope this helps, good luck.
@@nsdahockey no problem, I coach my son’s peewee team and am huge on teaching them edge work, and especially outside edges. 👍🏻 without it they struggle with stopping both ways and countless other situations where they would use them if they knew how! They work so hard for the wins, teaching them the skills they’ll need to make it easier is the least I can do.
When I try to do a turn I notice I can’t really get on my edge and by feet stay side by side and my knees pointed inwards. Will the outside edge on one foot drill help with that? I feel like I’m not flexible enough to get one foot behind the other and I’m not really sure what I’m doing wrong
Great question, it is helpful to be efficient stopping on your outside edge. I will address this question on Saturday in the ODR Live Q&A at 11AM EST. Thanks for the question.
Yes because thats your t-stop or back foot on a hockey stop. If you drag on your inside edge it will affect your crossover out of your stop, if you even use one. At the very least it will take you time to set up back on that outside edge before changing directions
Jayce See it is tough to master skating skills with rental skates!! Some are fine but most usually lack support in the ankles and the blades are dull or full of nick’s due to walking on concrete, rocks or pavement!! Great for a quick skate with friends but if you want to get serious about improving your skating probably worth investing in a pair of your own skates.
Picked up goalie gear 7 years ago and been a tendy since. Finally decided to play out, and it's so incredibly hard to get comfortable on my outside edge. After all these years using only inside edge and having my legs in a wide stance, it's hard to break the habit. But this is extremely informative. I still have a ways to go, but I try to watch these kind of videos before every skate
Really important to bend knees with that ”hockey stance” and keep the balance in check when starting out.
Really great advice, I've got the same issue where I start stopping on my outside edge during a right glide turn, this video was a great explanation as to why that occurs
Salted Canine thank you for the comment. Best of luck working on this. Keep us posted on how your progress goes.
You are the best coach I’ve been able to find on RUclips. Hopefully I’ll be able to start figuring out how to do this when ice opens up. Thank you
we had practice yesterday with 20 players, doing tight turns and the coach asked everyone, who is able to put their weight on their front foot when turning and using that outside edge, only one guy raised his hand, this might be the hardest thing ive encountered, and i still cant figure out why im unable to do it, when i cross over i can use that outside edge, but with tight turns i just shift all my weight to my back foot using that inside edge
This is a very common problem with players, the outside edge is the hardest to get comfortable using. The way to get better on your outside edge is to begin very slowly, and simply do wide turns on only your outside edge (lift other leg off of the ice), while turning hold your weight on the outside edge for as long as you can. It will be short holds at first but you will get more comfortable as you practice. Once you get comfortable at slow speeds then you can add more speed to the 1-legged glide on outside edge. The biggest problem is players don't feel comfortable holding their weight on their outside edge, it is an uncomfortable position to be in. Continue to practice very slowly, add speed then add your second leg to perform a proper glide turn. Good luck.
noticed my weak foot's outside edge has been holding me back a lot. going to try drills out great video thanks man
I'm glad the video helped. Best of luck, if you have any questions let me know.
I have the same problem as a figure skater. Thanks for the advice
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Thanks for the advice I am helping my 6 year old son.
Sharing videos as reinforcement of my on ice lessons for adult hockey. Very thorough breakdown....thank you!!
Thank you! I’m a young player who’s already good on his outside edges. But this still helps a lot!!
Great to hear that you feel comfortable on your outside edge, it’s not easy especially when your first staring out. Best of luck.
Really good video, taught me something useful, thanks.
Great stuff! Thanks!
This is really good I've gotten really good with glide turns but I really want to try and learn cutbacks and real sharp turns where you change in another direction real quick. Those look really helpful in a real game
Yes for sure, quick turns/cut backs are great skills to learn to get away from opponents. Now that you've improved your glide turns the tighter turns get a little easier with some practice. Best of luck.
@@nsdahockey thanks man
As a young player I’m struggling using my outside edge hope this will help me get better
Thank you for the message. The outside edge is difficult for a lot of players, continue to work on it every time your on the ice and you'll notice some great improvements over time. Good luck
Great video once again
Thank you. If you’d like to see any specific skills covered let me know. Thanks.
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Great instructions. Thank you!
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Thank you very helpful
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A lot of novice to intermediate skaters do all kinds of things other than having a proper outside edge on tight turns. You get players with inside skate chatter, some players lift it completely off the ice, some are doing a half-assed snowplow/punch turn without knowing it, some players torque their foot weirdly into an exaggerated inside edge, etc.
It's very difficult to correct in my experience.
My own dang daughter went from doing it good to somehow losing it over the course of a season.
I'll give some of these ideas a shot. I have already been doing the outside edge c shape drill, and tried a feet together slalom skiing type drill as well.
Any other bright ideas as far as coaching cues goes?
I feel like the main thing is players don't know how to start the turn.
This is a very common problem with young players, not utilizing their outside edge properly in and out of turns. The main reason is the outside edge is more difficult to keep on the ice and most of this comes from balance and confidence on that edge. Having players doing 1-leg turns on their outside edge is great and forcing them to lean on that edge so they can feel their edge gliding on the ice and not sliding. Once players feel comfortable with the outside edge grabbing the ice and not sliding they usually start to perform their turns properly. The biggest thing is them leaning on that edge and having the confidence to trust it in and out of turns.
When I'm riding on the outside edge, should I bend my ankle inside or do nothing? Should I lean in more?
Great question, I would recommend not bending your ankle when on your edges, some players tend to bend their ankle so they can get use or dig their edge into the ice. Keep your ankle normal in your skate (no bending) and lean in to the turn more, trusting your edge. Start slow with wide turns to begin and as you get more comfortable you can add speed and tighter turns. I hope this helps, good luck.
@@nsdahockey thanks you
great drills
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@@nsdahockey no problem, I coach my son’s peewee team and am huge on teaching them edge work, and especially outside edges. 👍🏻 without it they struggle with stopping both ways and countless other situations where they would use them if they knew how! They work so hard for the wins, teaching them the skills they’ll need to make it easier is the least I can do.
When I try to do a turn I notice I can’t really get on my edge and by feet stay side by side and my knees pointed inwards. Will the outside edge on one foot drill help with that? I feel like I’m not flexible enough to get one foot behind the other and I’m not really sure what I’m doing wrong
Is stoping on your outside edge important? I have trouble stoping on my outside edge as oppose to my inside edge.
Great question, it is helpful to be efficient stopping on your outside edge. I will address this question on Saturday in the ODR Live Q&A at 11AM EST. Thanks for the question.
Yes because thats your t-stop or back foot on a hockey stop. If you drag on your inside edge it will affect your crossover out of your stop, if you even use one. At the very least it will take you time to set up back on that outside edge before changing directions
Hard to trust the skate rentals when practicing outside edges. It feels so dull.
Jayce See it is tough to master skating skills with rental skates!! Some are fine but most usually lack support in the ankles and the blades are dull or full of nick’s due to walking on concrete, rocks or pavement!! Great for a quick skate with friends but if you want to get serious about improving your skating probably worth investing in a pair of your own skates.
You got skates now right
spooklla lol nope hard to make an investment when corona shut down the ice rink
@@01jae damn that sucks
@@01jae I'd recommend anything from ccm or bauer. Stick to those lineups I recommend as1s
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