MOVIE REACTION 1917 (2019) Reaction/Review
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
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I love so much that you guys picked up on the thing about Blake wanting him to tell his mother that he wasn't afraid, and Schofield saying he wanted to tell her he wasn't alone. I remember thinking the same thing when I saw it (it's so much more intense on the big screen, if you can imagine that). As you say, his mother wouldn't believe that he wasn't afraid, because of course he was. But it might bring her some small amount of real comfort to know he didn't die alone. It's a pretty gut wrenching detail that a lot of reactors don't seem to notice, or at least they don't mention it.
This movie in the cinema was absolutely astounding.
They did use drones, and there were some sequences in which they flew the drone low so that it was caught from midair by a camera operator who ran with it for a distance, and then attached it to a dolly...all within the single take.
In that last sequence when the lance corporal was running along the trench while being bombarded, it was an actual blooper when he collided with the other soldier. But the actor said that there had been so many cases when bloopers happened that Mendes told them to keep acting through the errors that he had gotten used to staying in motion until Mendes actually said "Cut." So he got up and kept running.
The most poignant moment for me was the lance corporal being able to tell the lieutenant how his brother died. The movie had shown us so many hundreds of anonymous corpses, men whose loved ones would never know how they died. In this case, one man's loved ones would know how their son, brother died, that he'd died doing his duty and did not die alone. One family would know.
The movie was created from stories told to Sam Mendes by his grandfather Alfred Mendes, who was a combat courier. My understanding is that these different instances happened, just not all on any particular single courier run.
This was the last movie we saw at the theater before we went into Covid lockdown for two years. Great movie to go from into that hiatus.
Both sides used runners to carry messages to and from the front. It was considered especially dangerous duty. (Whether it truly was or not is up for debate.) A side note, one particular German runner--who volunteered and did that for most of the war and was wounded once, was a particular guy whose first name was Adolf.....
"i've seen him."
5:45 the look of recognition
5:52 "i've seen him"
6:12 "it will. it'll click"
8:05 "my brain is saying Game of Thrones..."
8:15 the neurons start firing.... rapidly making connections to the memories stored in the mainframe...
8:35 Tommen Baratheon played by dean-charles chapman
As someone who’s been stabbed, I think when he assessed the damage then felt the real stinging is so accurate
This is a true story about the DIrector's grandfather. Many of the details though were made for the story
Another great movie I can recommend is Jojo Rabbit, directed by Taika Waititi... it’s set during WW2, but let’s say it has a different perspective and a different tone... great cast too, and will definitely make you think about a lot of different things!!
I'm still kicking myself for not watching this in a cinema.. 😭😭😭
Saw it twice in the theater and considered a third tbh. I was obsessed for weeks. I know my friends and family were tired of me talking about it lol.
Same! What a movie though
This movie is 99% fiction. The Germans did make a tactical retreat, and that's where the facts end, Due to how they fought in the western front of world War 1, in trenches, there was no possibility of 1600 British soldiers getting miles behind German lines. They also wouldn't have bothered trying to save them if they did get behind lines. The british, French and German commanders generally didn't care about the excessive amount of casualties.
Here's an example, during the first day of the battle of the somme, the British had 57,000 casualties. 140 days later the battle ended, the brits had 420,000 casualties. The French had almost 250,000 casualties, and the Germans had a bit over 500,000 casualties. And all that resulted from that was the line moved a few miles.
The commanders cared about casualties. It's a horrendous myth that they didn't. Even from a tactical point of view losing 1600 good men would never be taken lightly.
the shots low over the water were done using cameras on wires, the same kind of thing they use at sports events.
This film is a modern masterpiece
DUDE!! CHILDREN OF MEN IS MY ALL TIME FAV MOVIE TO!! 🏆
The soldier who told the stories was Alfred Mendes. Sam's grandfather
The opening shot and the closing shot are the same. Scofield napping against a tree.
That was the day that the US entered the War. (April 6, 1917) It was the beginning of the end for the German Empire. My grandfather was sent over there. Some say that the Americans "just came in at the end", to which I have two answers: one is that why did you think it ended in 1918? Might it have had something to do with the Allies getting possibly millions of fresh troops? Or maybe that if you were, like my grandfather, a doughboy engaged in brutal trench combat, that it didn't actually matter that it was "almost over" since men were maimed and dying every damn day, just as much as any Frenchman or Brit.
The Wikipedia for the movie explains that the Germans are engaging in Operation Alberich to retreat to the Hindenberg Line, which happened in February and March of 1917. No British battalion chased after them, and no one would have done so without artillery support, as Col. Mackenzie does in the movie.
But it's a great movie if you can suspend disbelief about that. Not hard for someone like me that doesn't have that great a sense of history, anyway. I'm sure incidents in the movie are largely drawn from soldiers' WW1 experiences as Sam Mendes understood them
I was lucky enough to see this in the theatre and it was incredible. The sequence where he was moving through the nighttime ruins, lit by the moving flares, blew my mind. I just sat there with my jaw hanging open. And that final run along the trenches was mind-blowing. I cannot rave enough about it.
Woooah! Second I saw Captain Mal I had to subscribe. Proud Browncoat here! Really glad you enjoyed 1917 😎
Big damn heroes, sir!
There are a lot of American cemeteries in Europe and the Pacific.
Not England it's France
Children of Men is a legit great movie. But your favorite? That movie is such a downer to be anywhere close to mine xD
Also, the guy you recognized at the start is King Tommen from Game of Thrones. Oh you guessed right later!
Most of the time where the camera shifts, like when he enters a room, the camera follows him and you get the 'cross section' of the wall. Those are the times when they use 'hidden' cuts, amongst others. The scene at the end, where he collides with a soldier going over the top, was actually a blooper. But the cast and crew just went with it
Officially I have a “top 15” because it’s impossible to pick a single favorite, but if I had to pick a single favorite movie it’s usually the one I think of.
Sidney Lewis
The youngest authenticated (in 2013) British soldier in World War I was twelve-year-old , who fought at the Battle of the Somme in 1916.
John Condon (5 October 1900 - 24 May 1915) was an Irish soldier born in Waterford. He was believed to have been the youngest Allied soldier killed during the First World War, at the age of 14 years; he lied about his age and he claimed to be 18 years old when he signed up to join the army in 1913.
This movie won the Oscar for best visual effects. It was nominated for best sound mixing and best picture. The visual effects won because almost every single frame has some sort of CGI in the background and the sky. It looks so hood that it looks like they shot on location. Keep on mind this came out in 2019, the same year and Avengers Endgame, and this still won best visual effects. Also in the trench scenes, the camera man isn't walking backwards. The camera is on some sort of track hovering over the trench, it has just been CGI'd out.
My Grandfather fought in World War I (Latvians were drafted into the Russian Army since we were occupied by Czarist Russia.) My Father fought in World War II against the Soviets. My Dad often shared his stories of what was like on the bloodiest battles of World War II. The horrors of war. My Grandfather didn’t talk about his war experience but listened to my Father. One day my Grandfather spoke up a time when my Father was recounting his war years. My Grandfather was elderly by then. Got visibly upset (which is very rare.) and angrily said. “You boys had it easy, it was a picnic compared to what we went through!!! You want to know hell?! Bury your school chums into the trench walls and use their bodies as protective sandbags! The more bodies you stack in the walls the longer you live!” My grandfather stood up and walked off into a corner of the yard and cried. He was in his late 70s. The ONLY time he ever got upset, the only time he cried, and the ONLY time he ever spoke of “The War to End All Wars” as World War One was called. Both my Father and Grandfather both prevented us from ever joining the Army. Never let it even play with war-related toys either. “No amount of Nationalist Propaganda is worth your life son, We fought so you wouldn’t have to son.” Words of my Late Father. 1917 for World War One and Saving Private Ryan did for World War II both are masterpieces.
Another war movie which you may or may not of seen is 'Dunkirk' which is a true story. If you've not seen it, I can highly recommend it
We saw this in iMax when it came out, it was the most incredible movie theater experience I’ve ever had. The whole place was just palpably STUNNED, most of us were crying, everyone was clapping during the credits … I also remember someone saying loudly “How the hell did that Parasite movie win and this DIdnt?!” Lol.
I don’t think they have any idea what utter hell& horror WWI was 😔
Children of men is a very underrated film
I just saw the guy who plays Scofield in 11.22.63 with James Franco,.
The scene where he's running alongside the trenches and runs into guys was not planned. They just left it in.
That’s George Mackay, I can’t believe he’s soon 30
20:47 It’s implied Lance Cpl. Schofield (the one who completed the mission) is in his mid 20s. At the end he pulls a picture out and it’s revealed he has a significant other and a son.
Just come across your channel guys, have watched a couple of reactions to this (It's become one of my fav movies), and I just wanted to say I REALLY appreciated you guys not guessing where every cut in shooting was throughout. That seriously ruined the reactions I tried to watch. Question for you, what did you think of the portrayal of the British officers in it? I thought it was a good mix of hard-fighting regimental commander (Cumberbatch), well respected, practical Captain (Mark Strong), to the gallows humour from the Yorkshire Regiment Lieutenant that sent them over the top. It is hard to think that the morale of the story isn't that wounded German's should maaaaybe just have been bayoneted though :D. Subscribed lads, look forward to having a better look at your channel, thanks for the vid.
Welcome! Thank you for watching! That's an interesting question about the officers. I feel like their varied responses showcase how ultimately they're just people the way the enlisted men are; each with their own priorities and approach, just trying to do their best with the circumstances they find themselves in. It really is a thought-provoking movie!
@@catch-uppackets2664 I think it resonated a bit for me, I also remember being told to 'fuck off' by senior Battalion officers as a Corporal, and Cumberbatch's delivery was pretty much dead on - as in it wasn't meant in an insulting way, just a way to banter - mostly haha. All well acted though, you could almost see the weight of responsibility and war-weariness. They managed to get the fat incompetent Colonel in his staff car moaning about a tree in the road too though, balance!
Great reaction. Off topic… occasionally when the guy on the right (Nate?) turns or something I kinda see Daniel Radcliffe in Guns Akimbo 😅 I’m sorry. I don’t know why but once I thought it I couldn’t unthink it
I am 74 and my dad was a Sergeant with the Lancashire Fusiliars in WW1 which i guess is rare because i hear people say that their Grandad was in WW1. My dad was over 50 when i was born in 1948 hence the fact i can say my dad was in WW1 .I was 6 when he died of cancer which was perhaps caused by him being gassed and being a heavy smoker .He of course told me nothing about the war and any knowledge i have was told to me by my older brother which is not much. I am not really sure if i would want to know what my dad experienced .I just have a small piece of paper giving the details of his number rank and birth date 1898 in Preston Lancashire.
Thank you for watching!
My grandfather was also in WWI. He was in the cavalry (American) and was poisoned with mustard gas by the Germans. He survived but his voice was never the same. He was in the Ardennes in France. When WWII came around he told my dad to go into the Navy. Thankfully, my dad was on the young side and had a diving accident and finished out the war stateside but his high school buddy went into the army and was at Battle of the Bulge. He too survived but suffered PTSD.
More great movies with George MacKay, the Lance Corporal who got through:
Pride (2014) british 1980ies gay and lesbians support the coal miners strike
Captain Fantastic (2016) family of philosopher king outcasts want to visit a funeral and drive through modern day USA. Viggo Mortensen portays the dad
11.22.63. He has a leading role.
Masterpiece of film making
"The way they created the English countryside" :(
And no, they didn't go back for the dead. Farmers in Europe to this day continue to dig up the remains of those who died. On all sides
25:54 you learned well grasshopper. that certainly does apply in real world situations.
If you want some WW1 history, Peter Jackson's documentary They Shall Not Grow Old is a must watch.
Have you never seen Hitchcock’s Rope?
Stanley Kubrick's "Paths of Glory" is a rarely mentioned WWI movie that has a very powerful anti-war message beautifully depicted. Well worth watching.
Yes, a true, timeless classic👍👍👍
Now rewatch it keeping Dante’s Inferno or Sam and Frodo’s journey to Mordor in mind.
the German Hindenburg line strategic fall back was a real deal. They hoped to trick the British into attacking. An like the movie it was a serious trap.
The film IS based on a true story that Alfred Mendes, director's grandfather, told him.
And runners were used extensively in WWI, so SIMILAR stories are BOUND to have happened.
Those stories were used for inspiration, but make no mistake: it's fiction. Runners carried messages from behind the lines to the front of the trenches; they would not be required to carry messages on foot for tens of miles. There were bicycles and carrier pigeons for that.
There are several Making of.... videos on RUclips. You should check it out. Very interesting
This movie is great, if not only for the "one shot". I really thought that hand injury would come back. And love how it ends how it started.
Despite that we know it was a trap and that the Germans were counting on the British attacking, you could be forgiven for thinking the attack was going well and that the first wave had been somewhat successful in that the left flank had reached the German line and had fired signal flares which they were only supposed to do once they had taken their objective i.e. the German trenches. The Colonel thought he had the Germans on the run and wanted to make a decisive breakthrough which the Allies had spent the last 3 years trying and failing to do at great cost, something that the Colonel most likely witnessed and hated seeing. You can see why the Colonel was reluctant to stop the attack now that he had the opportunity (his belief that the Germans were on the run) and the flexibility (with the phone lines being down and no-one to countermand his orders) to attack and hopefully make a breakthrough and maybe, just maybe, end the war.
Very much enjoyed your reaction. Have you ever thought of reacting to Band of Brothers?
We’ve thought about it! It’s not in the immediate future but we might get to it a little ways down the road.
@@catch-uppackets2664 I thought that the both of you seemed very aware and empathetic ( if that’s the right word. Are you ex service?)as well as so appreciative of the acting, filming and sense of the time. BoB’s story of Easy Co, made by Spielberg and Hanks, is still regarded as one of the best mini series ever made. If you have the time to commit to the men of Easy, I would highly recommend it. Cheers, guys!
Why would they not use aircraft to transfer messages? Loved every aspect of the film. A masterpiece. I am obsessed with it
Where are you gonna land it, exactly? The middle of the forest? No-Man's-Land?
It's a very good movie and your reaction too ,react to Jojo Rabbit !
I should have watched this movie with you guys. WW1 and WW2 are kinda my areas of expertise.
Another underrated film in my opinion is Mr. Church with Eddie Murphy
I see you guys react to television shows.... Incredible one I'm a fan of I haven't seen anyone react to is TABOO with Tom Hardy
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Why are you making comments you already admitted you don't know anything about this war That is what runners do take massages across the battlefield it is like Baker baken bred this was based on true stories, it was not England