Kandarin wasn't worth taking even with piety. Hell Kandarin isn't even worth it for mage anymore unless you really want to farm the few bosses with elemental weaknesses.
@@homologousprime8888 idk you basically have to go kandarin + frem as mage. desert is really bad and basically the only reason to go there is for blood spells/better aoe. so in order to have a spell above level 75 you need surge spells. which require both kandarin and frem to get.
@@spicydennis This League you won't need Desert for Ancients if you're picking Grimoire, and Shadow will be obtainable from other Raids if Desert is a region you hate. BTW surge is not more powerful than Ice Barrage unless there's a +25% elemental weakness (Ice Barrage does 30 damage, while all surge spells will hit 24 at lvl 95). Ancient Magicks offer much more utility in PvM compared to standard spells, and this was quite evident during Trailblazer Reloaded with a 1.2 s attack speed. Kandarin was a must pick then for things like Occult and Tormented, but it's a terrible region for lategame, and there's even less reason for it this League.
Honestly the best way to pick regions is to just pick content you want to do, and then figure out relics/gear/skill training/etc from there. Looking at melee WTM so far, also considering A or F in place of T. Also it's pretty funny how Jagex desperately does not want people to pick Kandarin this League, given how popular it was in both Trailblazers
It’s kinda funny how instantly outdated this video became with todays announcement that you can pick a relic that takes away all region choices from prayers and spell books
I love b0aty cuz he’s always cooking up new dumbass ways to play. “PK build but I can’t trade” “Camp Rex but I only get yew comp bows” “Leagues but I play no piety melee”
no shot ranged build doesnt take fremmenik for the 30 ranged attack to pair with that blowpipe, its like adding a second dragon dart to your blowpipe for strength bonus.
I wasn't going to take Valamore, but I I may now... The Bracers are best in slot ranged gloves, even quite a bit better than Varyte. I feel like a lot of people have NOT noticed this yet. The ONLY thing that the Zaryte Bracers has over it is 1 prayer bonus.
would maybe like to see the morytania gloves count torwards 1/4 of any barrows set. so you can switch up the weapon or 1 other piece of gear and still have the barrows set effect
Vardorvis is in Varlamore because he cannonically always was. the strangle woods are the first part of varlamore we got. it just isn't connected in the game yet
The Dogsword is WILD. Not only do you get the AGS boost, which gives you more damage and crazy accuracy, from the AGS boost, you get boosted SGS hp and prayer restore, you boosted BGS defence reduction, you freeze them for 20 seconds with the ZGS, and you get ANOTHER heal of up to 25 hp from the AncientGS spec. That's NUTS.
I also think it's good no matter what your primary combat style is, it's very utilitarian and you only need to use it for specs, which ranged+magic like in good spec weps anyway.
I am still not sold on valamore. I didnt know a lot of this stuff but I now think ill go Asgarnia, Frem and Morty for the torva scythe and kings rewards.
@@TheRotMGPerson that’s why I’m saying Morty for all mega rares and best raid for scythe. The thing about what boaty is saying that keeps going thru my head is. Valamore means easy gear upgrades and it’s all melee so with melee relics it’s even faster. Then you can go Morty second and swag into fun with frem. It’s a good plan Mr.Boaty hats off.
Not smart enough to know if this changes anything, but according to Scritic, the Mory Gloves when used with full Dharok APPARENTLY also gives it a 50% chance to reflect 30% damage taken. Not sure if this opens up the chance at solo Hardmode ToB like in Shattered Relics.
oh man, i hope b0aty doesnt upload a random Rollercoaster Tycoon video randomly. That would be awfulllllll. (Please Adam I need my rollercoaster tycoon videos back
21:21 You can get T-bow from any raid region and one of the relics unlocks all prayers - so a Range build does NOT need Kourend at all. I think Range builds will definitely do Desert and Fremmy + some other random one (probably Varlamore if they're hardcore gamers)
i cant and wont do colosseum. let alone echo colo. makes varlamore seem like a bad pick, but the general goodness that comes from that region for everything else makes it still a good pick. Dunno how i feel wasting an echo slot this leagues for a general area with decent gear.
I need to research this gamemode, but I really enjoyed Twisted leagues because I feel like even the casual type of player could have fun with clue scrolls etc. Do you guys think it's the same with this one? I'm shit at bossing so would struggle focusing that.
Wait, the crystal echo doesn't just give you the crystal armor bonuses without wearing the crystal armor? In the video they literally showed someone in crystal armor using a melee weapon when they were describing it.
@@ArneyO7I did some digging cuz I was also confused about this but you HAVE to wear the crystal armor to get the blessing effect. But it’s better than torva so it’s definitely a really good choice for a melee build
I didn't do the math, but how is the highest strength bonus not Torva from Asgarnia and Avernic Defender with your Mory pick? I'd imagine Asgarnia is way better melee than Zeah. Plus, then you have the melee special Dog Sword. Am I crazy?
I just hope the echo bosses are a fun fight rather than having annoying mechanics. Imagine if you had to keep the hp of the DKs similar otherwise they heal, get engrange etc, that would be quite difficult to pull off considering the power level in leagues. My prediction is that all the echo bosses are gonna hit through prayer based on the fact that most of the echo items give a lot of defensive stats.
That's pretty much what I plan on doing. Grabbing the grimore for rigour. You'd have fortified masori, pegs, assembler, BiS rings and amulet with the drygore blowpipe, tbow, and ZCB. Sounds pretty unmatched now with the prayer relic release. If you're worried about darts, you could do the mining relic and do amethyst darts/arrows so you aren't hardstuck on dragon bolt/dart tips.
@@Jordan-dg8tp yeah thats how i was looking at it too but you need kourend for tbow thats the only thing, your pretty much stuck with just blowpope and zcb which still sounds fun, also you do get the dogsword, fang and zaryte vambs and shadow which will be nice for the weaker attk styles
Theorycrafted Tirannwn, Wildy, and Desert for a nice melee+range hybrid build potentially, but idk how well T+W would synergize with ToA. Regardless, melee with wildy echo weapon sounds like it’ll be absolutely amazing.
@@iseeyounoobsEesh, that’s a massive oversight on my part. I’m also leaning towards Fremmy instead of Tirannawn, so that would solve the lack of herbs at least.
Yes b0aty DKs are a great place to practice new things like switches! Good point and reasoning for your choice on the DKs. A good way to kick-start your runescape adventure! Jk love u and have fun
The thousand dragon ward from the KBD gives better offensive stats than the avernic defender, don't anyone sleep on it if you're doing melee and skipping asgarnia OR morytania.
we don't really know how the combat relics are gonna be yet - but we kinda know they will be different and revolve around some combat masteries or some thing like that.
No guarantees we have the combat style specific relics like previous. Could be a different system where the relics buff all styles and tribrid is best. Even if we do have style relics they will be different each year
I feel like anybody who doesn't pick Varlamore for Echo Sol will regret it... Unless Echo Sol is a snoozefest in which case Varlamore pickers will regret it I am locked in on VTW for bofa offstyle, kbd sword, and Sol
B0aty is the first person I've heard say that the crystal blessing works without the crystal armor. Very stupid of them to show people meleeing with it equipped if thats true.
Why cant they ever get creative. Like 3 relics. Choose kanderin- bank note or prif. Most points to win you would need to sacrifice bank note. But those that just want a good time and dragon cup can take a easy max and bank note. Honestly it would be the biggest choice in history of leagues and honestly im not sure which i would pick.
Tirannwn is confirmed you need the crystal armour with the blessing for the effect.
GRIMOIRE HUGE@@@@@@@
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Yup! grimoire might negate Kandarin for you now! So what’s the next region?
Very poor wording from the guy in the video then!
@@jackj4631It kinda seemed obvious though right? Idk why this was confusing
@@jackj4631not really, its taking the bonus of granting ranged damage and accuracy, and converts it into melee damage and accuracy
Mans all end game, I'll see yall at the cake stall
The relic release today has already messed up everyone's plans about prayer haha
Kandarin wasn't worth taking even with piety. Hell Kandarin isn't even worth it for mage anymore unless you really want to farm the few bosses with elemental weaknesses.
@@kenshin1368it’s still very worth for mage in terms of having the best mage path, it’s not worth it for mage in terms of points and bosses to farm
@@Iog0ut Fremmy might be better for mage now - the echo items will grant +60 magic attack and +15% magic damage with 20 prayer bonus
@@homologousprime8888 idk you basically have to go kandarin + frem as mage. desert is really bad and basically the only reason to go there is for blood spells/better aoe. so in order to have a spell above level 75 you need surge spells. which require both kandarin and frem to get.
@@spicydennis This League you won't need Desert for Ancients if you're picking Grimoire, and Shadow will be obtainable from other Raids if Desert is a region you hate.
BTW surge is not more powerful than Ice Barrage unless there's a +25% elemental weakness (Ice Barrage does 30 damage, while all surge spells will hit 24 at lvl 95). Ancient Magicks offer much more utility in PvM compared to standard spells, and this was quite evident during Trailblazer Reloaded with a 1.2 s attack speed.
Kandarin was a must pick then for things like Occult and Tormented, but it's a terrible region for lategame, and there's even less reason for it this League.
Honestly the best way to pick regions is to just pick content you want to do, and then figure out relics/gear/skill training/etc from there. Looking at melee WTM so far, also considering A or F in place of T. Also it's pretty funny how Jagex desperately does not want people to pick Kandarin this League, given how popular it was in both Trailblazers
It’s kinda funny how instantly outdated this video became with todays announcement that you can pick a relic that takes away all region choices from prayers and spell books
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For any newbies, you do get cosmetic rewards that can be very valuable in the main game.
Yeah I made about $50mil from cosmetics with a mithril trophy
I love b0aty cuz he’s always cooking up new dumbass ways to play.
“PK build but I can’t trade”
“Camp Rex but I only get yew comp bows”
“Leagues but I play no piety melee”
no shot ranged build doesnt take fremmenik for the 30 ranged attack to pair with that blowpipe, its like adding a second dragon dart to your blowpipe for strength bonus.
I wasn't going to take Valamore, but I I may now... The Bracers are best in slot ranged gloves, even quite a bit better than Varyte. I feel like a lot of people have NOT noticed this yet. The ONLY thing that the Zaryte Bracers has over it is 1 prayer bonus.
i wonder whether the drygore pipe having 0 range str is an oversight
toxic blowpipe has 0 when uncharged but 20 when charged with scales
The early game is truly gonna set boaty fiending for a hardcore
would maybe like to see the morytania gloves count torwards 1/4 of any barrows set. so you can switch up the weapon or 1 other piece of gear and still have the barrows set effect
Fremmy echo jewelry gives +20 prayer bonus*, it could be huge for the spear
*+10 each
Vardorvis is in Varlamore because he cannonically always was. the strangle woods are the first part of varlamore we got. it just isn't connected in the game yet
Desert is definitely not a mage region at all this leagues, it’s completely range, offering the drygore and Masori, all raids offer shadow.
The Dogsword is WILD. Not only do you get the AGS boost, which gives you more damage and crazy accuracy, from the AGS boost, you get boosted SGS hp and prayer restore, you boosted BGS defence reduction, you freeze them for 20 seconds with the ZGS, and you get ANOTHER heal of up to 25 hp from the AncientGS spec. That's NUTS.
I also think it's good no matter what your primary combat style is, it's very utilitarian and you only need to use it for specs, which ranged+magic like in good spec weps anyway.
Cool part is there's also another synergy, In that the Zam effect guarantees that the ancient effect procs.
Assuming the boss is freezable of course.
does it count as affiliation for all gods for godwars?
This relic with a special attack relic (which in the echo bosses video he basically confirmed and no ones talking about it) has potential to be crazy
NO LINK IN BIO
Who are you
upvote this man
Gotta love a good B0aty yapping vid
Varlamore is a top tier choice, it’s been huge in its variety of mid game options for my newer Ironman. Plus the colosseum for endgame.
I am still not sold on valamore. I didnt know a lot of this stuff but I now think ill go Asgarnia, Frem and Morty for the torva scythe and kings rewards.
Kinda sucks to have to use a full region unlock JUST for the Colosseum I really wish they'd give us a bonus region unlock for that.
Apparently scythe can drop from every raid. Not sure if that will make a difference to you, but worth noting
@@TheRotMGPerson that’s why I’m saying Morty for all mega rares and best raid for scythe. The thing about what boaty is saying that keeps going thru my head is. Valamore means easy gear upgrades and it’s all melee so with melee relics it’s even faster. Then you can go Morty second and swag into fun with frem. It’s a good plan Mr.Boaty hats off.
this is my melee route. Asg, Frem, Mory
WFZ is my melee plan but I’ve changed my regions a bunch in the past few days so we will see what I end up choosing
i assume you get utor ring from Varla without Fremmy so my plan VM + Wild or Asga / Zeah
Huge potential for a crazy blue moon spear build
Crystal armor+ scythe is more dps and harder max hit than full torva+scythe, including the extra boost from prim boots.
2/3 are the same as mine. Hope to run into you along the way.
As a noob I use leagues as an opportunity to try content I have been able to beat. I’d love to try my first raid this time round.
“Chackalackas” had me laughing - saying it different every time too 😂😂
Not smart enough to know if this changes anything, but according to Scritic, the Mory Gloves when used with full Dharok APPARENTLY also gives it a 50% chance to reflect 30% damage taken.
Not sure if this opens up the chance at solo Hardmode ToB like in Shattered Relics.
oh man, i hope b0aty doesnt upload a random Rollercoaster Tycoon video randomly. That would be awfulllllll. (Please Adam I need my rollercoaster tycoon videos back
21:21 You can get T-bow from any raid region and one of the relics unlocks all prayers - so a Range build does NOT need Kourend at all. I think Range builds will definitely do Desert and Fremmy + some other random one (probably Varlamore if they're hardcore gamers)
pretty much my exact plan... dont think i can say no to the echo sol heredit. need to be able to say i beat it
@@gio_logic9377 Well, those gloves will be sick to use with the rest of the range set up
i cant and wont do colosseum. let alone echo colo. makes varlamore seem like a bad pick, but the general goodness that comes from that region for everything else makes it still a good pick. Dunno how i feel wasting an echo slot this leagues for a general area with decent gear.
you can do it with relics i believe in you
Use leagues to practice content tbh. Don’t gatekeep yourself!
Can't and wont? Why does everyone have an inferiority complex
I need to research this gamemode, but I really enjoyed Twisted leagues because I feel like even the casual type of player could have fun with clue scrolls etc. Do you guys think it's the same with this one? I'm shit at bossing so would struggle focusing that.
your name is what?
I really want valo just for the sol echo as it's something I enjoyed in the main game on release
Love your pfp
Will the blade of saeldor get the meele buffs when using with the crystal armor and the blessing?
Any melee weapon will.
what armour you going to have then? No asgarnia means no bandos or torva?
Blood moon gear from moons of peril
Lololol first announcement completely makes a difference 😂
Any speculations on drop rates for echo crystals/items?
I literally didn't even know there was a new Leagues, but now I'm hyped af!
Wait, the crystal echo doesn't just give you the crystal armor bonuses without wearing the crystal armor? In the video they literally showed someone in crystal armor using a melee weapon when they were describing it.
You need crystal equiped. Its very slightly better than torva in mft vs mfa
@Tatercon that's what I thought but I swear boaty said just equip the blessing and it gives the set effect of crystal
@@ArneyO7I did some digging cuz I was also confused about this but you HAVE to wear the crystal armor to get the blessing effect. But it’s better than torva so it’s definitely a really good choice for a melee build
If you want to make more videos, please consider picking up the RCT2 series again! Or maybe after leagues or something hehe
mmmmmmmate!
To be fair you do get cosmetic rewards in the main game 1:42
Omg you are so smart
@ wow thanks! I usually get called dumb. Your comment made my whole day better
@@aleccarlson492 no problem friend
Nobody plays it for that though. Lol
@@christianvigers2697im going to and its the only reason im going to
Just make kandarin available for all at this point
I didn't do the math, but how is the highest strength bonus not Torva from Asgarnia and Avernic Defender with your Mory pick? I'd imagine Asgarnia is way better melee than Zeah. Plus, then you have the melee special Dog Sword. Am I crazy?
Oh, you said grinds you don't wanna do right after I typed this. Carry on.
I just hope the echo bosses are a fun fight rather than having annoying mechanics. Imagine if you had to keep the hp of the DKs similar otherwise they heal, get engrange etc, that would be quite difficult to pull off considering the power level in leagues. My prediction is that all the echo bosses are gonna hit through prayer based on the fact that most of the echo items give a lot of defensive stats.
whats everyones thoughts on asgarnia/desert/frem for ranged base build
That's pretty much what I plan on doing. Grabbing the grimore for rigour. You'd have fortified masori, pegs, assembler, BiS rings and amulet with the drygore blowpipe, tbow, and ZCB. Sounds pretty unmatched now with the prayer relic release.
If you're worried about darts, you could do the mining relic and do amethyst darts/arrows so you aren't hardstuck on dragon bolt/dart tips.
@@Jordan-dg8tp yeah thats how i was looking at it too but you need kourend for tbow thats the only thing, your pretty much stuck with just blowpope and zcb which still sounds fun, also you do get the dogsword, fang and zaryte vambs and shadow which will be nice for the weaker attk styles
@@RespectTheConqueryou can get every mega rare from every raid
Desert, Wilderness and TBD, might go mage again but waiting for more info first
The crystal armor with blessing with the ring/ammy from fremmy or with the dog sword
There he is. Smile.
Man I want to pick mage cause I have never gone it before but man, Melee is just in a whole other league with the amount of variety.
Mage was so fun with shadow and berserker last year, 2 tick death machine, but I'm not sure yet until they reveal more
Theorycrafted Tirannwn, Wildy, and Desert for a nice melee+range hybrid build potentially, but idk how well T+W would synergize with ToA.
Regardless, melee with wildy echo weapon sounds like it’ll be absolutely amazing.
That region combo leaves you with zero herb patches. Be duly warned.
@@iseeyounoobsEesh, that’s a massive oversight on my part.
I’m also leaning towards Fremmy instead of Tirannawn, so that would solve the lack of herbs at least.
Make a mage vid
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Edit: the dogsword should totally come to osrs lmao
Yes b0aty DKs are a great place to practice new things like switches! Good point and reasoning for your choice on the DKs. A good way to kick-start your runescape adventure!
Jk love u and have fun
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The thousand dragon ward from the KBD gives better offensive stats than the avernic defender, don't anyone sleep on it if you're doing melee and skipping asgarnia OR morytania.
The dragon ward special effect you have it for melee relic anyways don’t you?
we don't really know how the combat relics are gonna be yet - but we kinda know they will be different and revolve around some combat masteries or some thing like that.
No guarantees we have the combat style specific relics like previous. Could be a different system where the relics buff all styles and tribrid is best. Even if we do have style relics they will be different each year
@@tobben27 that’d be interesting but I assume it’ll be roughly the same. I hope they got enough feedback to balance things out.
leeds 5 lad
Apparently I picked the perfect time to get back into Osrs
wonder if their original vision for the fight is the echo varient
GINGER
Leagues is gonna be off the hook this year
I feel like anybody who doesn't pick Varlamore for Echo Sol will regret it... Unless Echo Sol is a snoozefest in which case Varlamore pickers will regret it
I am locked in on VTW for bofa offstyle, kbd sword, and Sol
No link in bio, fake news
"I'm friends with a lot of the best ToBer's in the game so.." settle down bro we get it..
15:50 rip to the people who don't read the comment section
leviathan needs desert so you'd be good
Say less
Grab Faux and yall record a 4 hour ramble about it all right before the league. Ez video
ZDF as range 😊
Making a new region video everytime they drop a new relic/info is some serious content farming
Get “fun” what’s that
I play for keeps.
Typical content crator things, says link is in bio and its not in bio 😂😂😂
B0aty is the first person I've heard say that the crystal blessing works without the crystal armor. Very stupid of them to show people meleeing with it equipped if thats true.
Boaty got it wrong I’m pretty sure
And Boaty was the first person to make a video and get it wrong
leagues ResidentSleeper
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first?
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uhh bit weird doing this with like 10 days of reveals lmao
Eka
3rdst
this Leagues seems so wack and imo wont be as good as Trailblazer was. Think i'll skip on it ngl
Making this video with only 3 days worth of information is such a waste of time lmao
Hardly... the echo bosses are absolutely one of it not the most important part of this league
Varlamore wack af bad choice m8
Kinda agree, but goddamn I also kinda wanna pick it just to see how the echo Sol fight is
Why cant they ever get creative.
Like 3 relics.
Choose kanderin- bank note or prif.
Most points to win you would need to sacrifice bank note. But those that just want a good time and dragon cup can take a easy max and bank note.
Honestly it would be the biggest choice in history of leagues and honestly im not sure which i would pick.